Nov. 7, 2024
Trump Wins!
It’s over, now what?
It’s over, now what?
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Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is
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the Theology Central podcast making Theology Central. Well, ladies and gentlemen,
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it is over. It is finished. Are you happy? Are
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you depressed? Are you discouraged? Are you frustrated? Are you celebrating?
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What is your mood this evening? What is your mood
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right now? What has you been your mood all day?
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Has it been?
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I mean, did you stay up all night? I mean,
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how are you feeling now? For some people right now
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that have no idea what we're talking about, especially depending
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on when they hear this, so I guess I need
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to give you a proper introduction. Right, good evening everyone.
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It is Wednesday, November the sixth. Does that tell you
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what's going on? You need a little bit more context.
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It is Wednesday, November sixth, twenty twenty four. It is
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currently six fifteen pm Central time, and I'm coming to
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you live from the Theology Central studio located right here.
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In Abilene, Texas. Well.
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Yesterday was election day here in the United States of America,
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and I said numerous times that all I wanted was
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it to be over.
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I wanted it to be done with. I wanted to
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move on.
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And to be fair though, I also had a I
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had a dream, right, I had a wish, I had
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a hope, and I wanted to wake up on November
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the six, twenty twenty four, and find out that there
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was not a Republican left in any governmental capacity. That
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they every Senate, Congress, everywhere, mayor's governors, everywhere. There was
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no Republicans left anywhere in government. Now, when I say that,
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people like, oh, you're a liberal, you're a communist, you're
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a Democrat.
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And that's see, that's not the case.
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I wanted all the Republicans to be voted out of
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office so that when we woke up on Wednesday, November
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the sixth, everyone would look around, at least not everyone.
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I should. Let me rephrase that.
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Christians the church would wake up on November the six
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wake up today and go, well, there's no no more
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looking to politics, no more looking to politicians, no more
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looking to Washington, no more looking.
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To anything like that.
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We need to look to God because there's now no
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political ally left for us.
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We are left alone. It's just us and God.
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And I thought the best thing that happen to the
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church philologically speaking, let me make that very clear what
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the best thing that would happen to the church is
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that the church woke up today and that's it. There's
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no more Republicans, There's nowhere to look except to God.
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You don't have political allies, and that would possibly be
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the first step.
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In purifying the church, purging the church from this political.
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This political ideology, this Christian nationalism, this stuff that has
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so infiltrated Christianity. Because Christianity would wake up and be like, well,
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what do we do?
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What do we do?
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Stop looking to that, get back to being the church,
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get back to acting like a Christian, get back to scripture, prayer.
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Fasting, get back to that.
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Then maybe everyone keeps talking about a revival. Then maybe
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then there would be an actual spiritual revival. But I
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think when people talk about a spiritual revival, they talk
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about getting their favorite politician elected to office so that
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they can enforce Christianity upon everyone else, and then we
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call that revival. That's not revival. Revival is a spiritual thing.
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So that I'm just gonna be honest, that's what I wanted.
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I know, I knew obviously realistically that wasn't going to happen,
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but I wanted that to be.
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I wanted that to be the case. I knew it
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wasn't going to happen.
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I knew it was going to wake up on November
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the sixth, twenty twenty four, and Republicans would have won.
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You know, who knows how many how many different you
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know places that would.
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Have won, how many positions what you know? Who knows?
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But I knew that there was going to be at
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least you know, a number of them that won, all right.
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So that was my first wish, is that all Republicans
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would be gone. And my second wish was that would
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wake up on November the sixth, twenty twenty four, and
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there would be, in a sense, the end of the
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Donald Trump experiment, Donald Trump era, the end of the
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MAGA movement.
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It would be over and we could move on because
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of all the chaos and the lies.
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And the horrible things, and I could just go on
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and that it would be over, that we could just
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move past it once and for all.
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We could be done.
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That's what I'm just gonna be honest, That's what I
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was hoping it would be over. And again that not
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only maybe for my that there may be a little
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bit more personal feelings there but set aside my personal
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feelings once again.
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The church.
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The church is almost worship of Trump. It's almost never
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ending making excuses though the church is overwhelming support for
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Trump at times borderlines. I don't want to say it's
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full blown idolatry, but at times it's very troubling, right,
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It's like, hey, we want a king, and we want
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our king to be better than all the I mean,
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it's very like, what are we doing? Why are we
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not focused that this is not our home? We are
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pilgrims and stringers here. What are we doing and why
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are we Why are we so committed and supporting and
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defending someone that causes the world to look at us
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and go, your Christianity is broken. It's actually hurt the
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church more than it's helped the church. So I kind
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of wanted to wake up and all Republicans are gone,
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and really, it's the end of the Donald Trump experiment.
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It's over.
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It's done, as old as he already is by the next.
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Time he could run. Yeah, it's just it's just it
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would be over.
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It would be the end, and then Christians and the
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Church could just kind of we could wash our hands
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all that has been going on since twenty sixteen. We
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could just wash our hands and we could go where
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do we go from here?
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And someone could hold up a Bible and.
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Go, what about this? What about this? Anybody would anybody
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like this? And maybe someone'd go, what a great idea.
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And it wouldn't be a Trump Bible that we're holding up.
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It would be like an actual Bible, Okay, right, But
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that's kind of what I wanted, That's what I kind
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of envision That's what I was hoping for. Obviously a
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little bit naive, because obviously I knew there were not.
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All the Republicans were going to that.
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I knew Republicans were going to win. I knew there
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would still be Republicans, but you knew. I wanted it
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to be so overwhelmingly going the other way that it
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would at least maybe cause the church to go, maybe
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we've got to turn somewhere else. That was my hope,
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and I wanted to be the end of the MAGA
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movement and all of that.
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Well, we all know what happened. I stayed up to
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what four or five in the morning. I watched it all.
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I heard speech early this morning, all of it, and
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obviously Donald Trump will be the forty seventh president of
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the United States of America, and I was like, wow, Wow.
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So let me say this for all of you Trump supporters,
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for all of you who voted for Donald Trump. Congratulations,
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you've got your man, you've got your party, You've got
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it all. Congratulations you won. You voted for the person
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you wanted to win. Congratulations to all of you, to
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all Republicans, to all of you who support the MAGA movement,
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Congratulations victory. You won great And I mean that, I
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mean that's sincerely great and wonderful. Now I don't sit
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there and say, oh, how dare you not vote for him?
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We've already talked about that. You can come at me
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all day and throw me into the eighteenth level of
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hell because I did not vote for him.
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Just remember I don't vote for.
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Anyone because I don't play the little political reindeer games.
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All right, But that's a whole different story. But congratulations.
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So what we're gonna do this evening, and this is
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I've done this historically through basically all of my ministry.
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Is the day after an election, doesn't matter if it's
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a Democrat who wins, doesn't matter if it's a Republican.
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Doesn't matter if I agree, doesn't matter if I disagree.
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What I always try to do the next day.
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I've done this for ever throughout my basically my entire
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Christian life. If I get the chance to speak the
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day after an election, I almost inevitably try to turn
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everyone's attention back to scripture, back to God and say, Okay,
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now all of that political stuff is over. Let's get
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back to this, right, And I try to challenge us
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and how we should act, how we should not act.
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And try to do the right thing.
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So I look, on one hand, it's good to wake
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up on November sixth, twenty twenty four, and we don't
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have chaos. Right, we don't have I mean it is
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good because I mean I think it's pretty much fair
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to say if Trump would have been losing any of.
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Those states, it would be chaos. He would be claiming.
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I mean, he already said yesterday before, while it was
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going he was claiming that fraud was already happening in
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Pennsylvania before the votes were even counted. I mean, he
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was already claiming there was fraud, So he would already
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be saying that it's fraud, that the election is rigged,
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and everybody would be saying they stole the election, and
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it would be the same lies and the same chaos
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that happened before, and Christians would be buying into the
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conspiracy theory and it would just be a chaos. But
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is it funny though? When he wins, all the fraud
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just disappeared. Hey, fraud is happening?
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Oh I won? No no fraud, no fraud, no fraud
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here WI Now. Look, I'm glad, Kamala.
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I'm glad the Democrats seem not to be going about
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screaming and yelling that. So I'm glad we don't have
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to go through that again. I hope we don't never
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have to see another January the sixth ever happened.
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So I'm glad for all of that.
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And I am truly for those of you who are
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like really are into politics and you're like, oh, I
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got to get Trump in.
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Look, I am happy for you. You got what you wanted. Great.
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I think you have Republicans now controlling all, I think everything,
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so you're gonna get everything you wanted. And that's great,
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and we're going to see where it ends. But I
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think we do need to step take a step back
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tonight and at least consider some things. All right, So
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here's what I.
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Want to do. Trump whens. Trump has one.
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Nobody should be yelling and screaming about the integrity of
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the election. We believe it was fair unless there's clear
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and clear evidence, but no one is challenging it.
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So he has one.
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We can get away from all of that yelling and
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screaming and everyone.
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Can just accept that. Now, what do we do well?
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I think in this particular case, I'm going to add
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something to this.
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All right, Typically I would just go.
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Into some of my basic points that you're going to
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probably already be able to guess. But I'm going to
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do something different because I don't know. Five in the morning.
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In the morning, I was listening to Night Sounds. That's
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a famous Christian radio program. I became very acquainted with
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it early on when I was a teenager. Came on
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late at night, and I listened to it throughout the nineties.
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And you can download the Night Sounds app and they
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have all of the you.
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Know, they have the archives and all. Yeah.
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I'm not gonna sit there and get a whole dicussion
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about the program, but I was listening to it and
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it's for you know, it's a program designed for late night,
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and it was talking about change changes and how things
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can dramatically change. Things can change rapidly, they can change drastically,
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and they can just really be It can be confounding,
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It can be somewhat confusing.
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You can be like, what do I do?
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Great change can be hard to process in your life. Well,
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if things go the way Trump has claimed they're going
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to go, a lot's going to change, and it's going
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to change rapidly, and it could be a little bit
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overwhelming for all of us. So let's at least consider
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and let me make it very clear possible changes possible.
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Trump made a lot of outlandish, bombastic statements of what
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he's going to do on day one that I thought
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would be disturbing to people. But obviously that's what most
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people want, because I mean, he won. He won not
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