Feb. 28, 2025

Trump vs Zelenskyy: What Happened?

Trump vs Zelenskyy: What Happened?

A discussion about the insane press conference.

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A discussion about the insane press conference.

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Looking at our world from a theological perspective.

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This is the Theology Central podcast, making Theology Central.

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What just happened? What just happened? Does anyone have a

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good answer? What in the world just occurred? It played

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out on live television for the world to see. Everyone

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is reacting, Everyone is talking about it. People are angry,

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people are upset. Some people may be celebrating it. If

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I'm going to be completely honest with you, like I

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have to be very transparent here. I got so upset

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watching this. Literally my hands were shaking. My heart felt

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like it was like gotta beat out of my chest.

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I got mad, I got angry, I got upset, I

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got every emotion one can feel. It all hit me.

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At the same time, my daughter was calling me like

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what is happening? What is going on? Are you? Are

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you watching this? This is insane and I'm like, I

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have no words. I'm still trying to process it, and

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we're going to try to figure this out together. So

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let me say good afternoon everyone. It is Friday, February

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the twenty eighth, twenty twenty five. Wow. It is currently

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two forty six pm Central time. I'm coming to you

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live from the Theology Central Studio located right here in Abilene, Texas.

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I don't where do Maybe we begin with this.

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Gambling with the lives and millions of people see, you're

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gambling with world War three. You're gambling with World War three.

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And what you're doing is very disrespectful to the country,

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this country. It's back to you far more than a

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lot of people said they should have.

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Have you said thank you once this.

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Entirem Hello and welcome to Ukraine. The latest. We haven't

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even accorded an emergency podcast once before when Progosion launched

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his mutiny, But we have just watched one of the

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most extraordinary press conferences in modern political history, one which

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could have huge implications not only for the war, but

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for the West itself. President Zelenski had arrived at the

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White House a few hours earlier, apparently to sign the

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minerals deal we've discussed in detail so much this week.

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The press conference between him, Trump and Vice President J. D.

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Vance began cordially, but then this happened.

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He broken this is fire, He killed our people, and

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he didn't exchange prisoners. We signed the exchange of prisoners,

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but he.

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Didn't do it.

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What kind of diplomacy. Ggus became about what what what

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do you mean?

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I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to

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end the destruction of your country. But mister President, mister President,

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with respect, I think it's disrespectful for you to come

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into the Oval Office to try to litigate this in

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front of the American media. Right now, you guys are

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going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because

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you have manpower problems. You should be thanking the president

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for trying to bring it into this.

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Conflict into Ukraine. That you say, what problems we have.

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I have been to come.

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I've actually I've actually watched and seen the stories, and

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I know what happens is you bring people, you bring

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them on a propaganda tour. Mister President, are do you

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disagree that you've had problems bringing people in your military?

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And do you think that it's respectful to come to

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the Oval Office of the United States of America and

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attack the administration that is prying to trying to prevent

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the destruction of your country.

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A lot of questions, Let's start from the beginning. Sure

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fills to wall during the war, everybody has problems, even you,

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But you have nice ocean and don't feel now, but

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you will feel it in diffusion. God bless, God, bless you,

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God bless You're not.

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Don't tell us what we're going to We're trying to

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solve a problem. Don't tell us what we're going to feel,

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because you're in no position to dictate that.

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Remember this, you're in.

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No position to dictate what we're going to feel. We're

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gonna feel very good. Feel We're gonna feel very good

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and very strong. You're right now, not in a very

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good position. You've allowed yoursel to be in a very

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bad position that he happens to be right about.

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From the very beginning of the war.

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Not in a good position. You don't have the cards

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right now with us. You start having right now. You

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don't you play. You're gambling with the lives and millions

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of people. You're gambling with world War three. You're gambling

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with world War three. And what you're doing is very

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disrespectful to the country, this country. It's back to you.

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Far more than a lot of people said they should

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have have.

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You said thank you once this entire meeting.

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No, in this entire meeting, you said thank you.

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You went to Pennsylvany and campaign for the opposition in October.

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Offer some words of appreciation for the United States of

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America and the president who's trying to save your country.

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Please, you're saying that if you will speak very loudly

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about the war.

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He's not speaking loudly. He's not speaking loudly. Your country

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is in big trouble. No, No, you've done a lot

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of talking. Your country is in big trouble. I know

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you're not winning. You're not winning this. You have a

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damn good chance of coming out okay, because of the president.

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Were staying Yawa country staying strong. From the very beginning

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of the war. We've been alone and we are thankful.

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I said, thank you, haven't it You haven't been alone.

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We gave you, through this stupid president, three hundred and

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fifty billion dollars will. We gave your military equipment. You

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and you men are brave, but they had to use

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our military one. If you didn't have our military equipment,

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if you didn't have our military equipment, this war would

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have been over in two weeks.

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Into I heard it from Putin in three days. This

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is something maybe less in two weeks. Of course, yes,

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it's going to be a.

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Very hard thing. To do business like this. I'm gonna

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tell you this.

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They thank you.

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I accept it, except that they're accept the American except that.

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There are disagreements, and let's go litigate those disagreements rather

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than trying to fight it out in the American media

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when you're wrong. We know that you're wrong.

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But you see, I think it's good for the American

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people to see what's going on. I think it's very important.

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That's why I kept this going so long. You have

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to be thankful. You don't have the cards. You're buried there,

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your people that died. You're running low on soldiers, you're

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running slow on soldiers. It would be a damn goodness.

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And then you then you tell us I don't want

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to cease fire. I don't want to cease fire. I

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want to go and I wanted this. Look, if you

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could get a ceasefire right now, I tell you take it.

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So the bullets stopped flying and your meant stuff courting kills.

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Course, we want to stop the war.

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But I'm saying you don't want to to you, I

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want to see guarantee because you'll get a ceasefire faster

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than any greet people about fire.

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What they see when the press conference.

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I don't, I don't even know what to say about that.

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I I I am that literally happened. That literally happened,

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ladies and gentlemen. That what was that that it felt like,

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it felt like a schoolyard, bullies ganging up on someone.

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I mean, what is that? I don't know? And and

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what it all sparked when he said something negative about

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Putin then all of a sudden, Trump and JD. Vance.

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You don't say it. You can't say anything negative about Putin. No,

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not under the Trump administration, not for many conservatives, for sadly,

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for many Christians now are on the side of Russia,

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now on the side of Putin. I will never understand

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what happened. I don't get it. That was the most

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insane thing that has I don't, I can't. I can't

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even believe what happened. We're gonna walk through all of this.

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I'm gonna let them just say a couple of things

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here about what happened immediately after this press conference. This

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thing was insane. Zelensky was there to sign this mineral

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agreement that you know that America was gonna have some

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mineral rights then and to try to bring and then

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offer possibly some type of security. I'm oversimplifying so that

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maybe we could bring this to an end. But the

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thing is is is Trump has basically he won't call

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out Putin for invading Ukraine. He won't call out Russia.

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He will not, he will he just he's he's so

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supportive of Russia and Putin it. I don't get it.

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I remember, don't you remember? I have no words for

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what is happening. But let's listen to what they say

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happened after and then I'm gonna walk through everything. I

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kind of I'm gonna walk kind of a description. I'm

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gonna walk through a summary of events. I'm gonna walk out.

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I'm going to walk through an outline of what occurred,

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and then I'm going to try to look at this

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from a biblical and theiological perspective. And then I'm going

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to try my very very very best to explain what

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has occurred within Christianity and with an American conservativism that

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now supports Russia because something has dramatically changed. I've been

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watching this for over a year, for years now, I

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don't I don't know. I think it was maybe two

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years ago. I was reviewing a church, reviewing a sermon

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from a Calvary Chapel church from someone very, very, very

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popular within the Calvary Chapel movement, and within that sermon,

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they started mocking and attacking Zelenski and those in Ukraine

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in the middle of a sermon. And I was like,

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that's it. I'm done. And that's the first time and

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the only time I've ever stopped a sermon review and

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I said, I will never listen to that man again.

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I can't believe from a pulpit you're literally mocking someone

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whose country has been invaded and the people are dying,

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and Christians, and remember the clapping that people literally applauded

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like in a church, like I don't, I don't, I don't.

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I don't get what's happening. So here's they're gonna briefly

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describe what happened.

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After ended Zelensky left the White House, the planned press

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conference was canceled and it would appear that the minerals

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deal is now off. President Trump then posted the following

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on social media. We had a very meaningful meeting in

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the White House today. Much was learned that could never

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be understood without conversation. Under such fire and pressure. It's

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amazing what comes out through emotion. And I have determined

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that President Zelensky is not ready for peace if America

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is involved, because he feels our involvement gives him a

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big advantage in negotiations. I don't want advantage. I want peace.

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He disrespected the United States of America in its cherished

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oval office. He can come back when he is ready

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for peace.

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Now they go on and then for another fifteen sixteen

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twenty minutes, and you can go listen to that. I

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don't even have words for that, and everyone's talking about

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So what I'm going to do is walk through it

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basically on the outline I gave you. I'm going to

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give you a kind of a summary. I'm going to

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kind of give you an introduction. I'm going to give

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you a summary. I'm going to give you an outline

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of what happened. I'm going to look at it from

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a biblical and philological perspective, and I'm going to try

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to break down what happened, why this shift has occurred.

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That you know, if you're if you're if you're a Republican, well, maga.

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I'm going to say, if you're maga and you're all

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pro Trump, you tend to be pro Russia. I don't

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get this. I don't understand this, and many Christians have

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followed this what has occurred. I'm going to try to

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break this down. So let's go through this, all right.

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I'm going to do my very best to go through

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this rapidly. I am so to me if you're asking

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me my opinion. If Zaliski, I felt like he was

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set up. He was called in to supposedly do this,

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you know, press conference, signed this deal and all of this,

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but then he gets in there and boom, he gets

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immediately just because he dared call out Putin for breaking

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agreements and for doing this and for doing no, no, no,

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you see Zelensky shut up in color. You can't say

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anything bad about Putin because the Trump administration is pro Russia.

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I don't I don't get I don't get it. All right,

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But here we go and a dramatic I'm borrowing from

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news articles. I'm borrowing from a number of sources. Here.

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Here we go, and a dramatic and unexpected turn of events,

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a high stakes media at the White House between US

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President Donald Trump, Vice President Jdevans, and Ukrainian Andukrainian President

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Zelensky erupted into a heated confrontation. The meeting, intended to

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discuss US support for Ukraine and its ongoing conflict with Russia,

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and to finalize a significant minerals deal, concluded abruptly without

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any agreements. The summary of events kind of go like this.

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Accusation of disrespect. President Trump accused President Zelensky of disrespecting

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the United States and suggesting that Zelensky was gambling with

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World War III by not aligning with US expectations. Vice

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President Vance echoed these sentiments, criticizing Zlynsky for a perceived

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lack of gratitude for US support. Also, there was someone

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in the press conference who criticized Zelensky for not wearing

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a suit. But we won't even get into that childishness,

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all right, abrupt, abrupt conclusion. The escalating tensions led President

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Trump to cut the meeting short that Zelensky could return

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when he is ready for peace. This decision also resulted

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in the cancelation of planned joint press conference and the

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signing of a minerals deal that was anticipated to bolster

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Ukrainian's economy. European allies reaction the confrontation has caused concern

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among European allies who have been steadfastening their support for Ukraine.

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French President and the German Chancellor reaffirmed their commitment to

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Ukraine's sovereignty and criticize the US administration's approach, expressing fear

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of increased isolation in the effort to support Ukraine. So

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the peace deal is off the table. I guess I

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remember President Trump said he was gonna he could solve

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this entire war in the first day when he was elected,

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within like twenty four hours. Well, he didn't do that.

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He didn't do anything. I'm just going to get frustrated,

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get mad, all right, But this now leaves the Ukrainian

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people in Ukraine. I don't know. I guess now Russia

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can just go in and kill everyone. I guess. I guess. Hey,

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you know, remember Trump already referred to Zelensky as the dictator,

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not putin. But Zelensky don't even get me started on

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all of that. Okay, but here's kind of an outline, right, So,

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a high profile So basically, if you need to understand this,

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a high profile meeting at the White House involving US

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and Ukrainian leadership. All right, the key issues that were

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to be discussed US security guarantees for Ukraine and a

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proposed US Ukraine minerals deal. All right, here's the details.

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President Trump's accusation towards President Zelensky. He makes these accusations,

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a Vice President vance remarks unperceived ingratitude, and President Zelensky's

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defense and emphasis on Ukraine's need for reliable peace. I

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think what is Zelensky was trying to say is, look,

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we've got to have something reliable, not just supposedly Putin

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saying well, I won't do this or I won't do

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that because he's broken those previous agreements in the past.

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That's what Zelensky was trying to say. We can't trust Putin.

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We need something. But of course no, no, no, no, no

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no no, we can't say any thing bad about Putin. Right,

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So there was the immediate outcome was an abrupt termination

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of the meeting, cancelation of the joint press conference and

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minerals deal signing. All right, international reaction. European leaders reaffirm

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their support for Ukraine, and there is a concern over

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US commitment and potential isolation of European allies. In other words,

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they can be isolated and be possibly in danger of

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Russia aggression, maybe Russia trying to take over even more territory.

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we just look at this purely from just a biblical

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philological perspective, from a biblical standpoint, all right, this incident

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can be examined through the lens of leadership, humility, and

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the pursuit of peace. All right, So if we look

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at it from a biblical perspective, and this is just look,

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I'm reacting in real time here, so you've got to

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give me time to process this and think this even

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further through. Okay, But I think we can look at

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it through that lens leadership, humility, and the pursuit of peace.

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So let's start with pride and humility. The Bible warns

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against pride and emphasizes the importance of humility. Proverbs sixteen

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eighteen states pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit. Before

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a fall, leaders are called to exercise humility, recognizing their

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role as servants to others. This is not about you

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show up hearing you do this, and you do this,

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and you do this. It should be hey, guys, let's

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humbly work together for the good of I don't know

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that all the people in Ukraine not being slaughtered. How

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about we try to remain or keep our set aside

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our egos to try to work together to stop this.

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But the problem is, it seems that one part of

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the people in that room, everyone who is a part

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of the Trump administration, is more. They don't want to

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offend Putin, They don't want to make Russia men. They

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want to stay on Russia's good side. And they don't

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seem to be that willing or concerned for the Ukrainians.

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And so then if if Zelenski they immediately started attacking,

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you haven't said thank you enough? And then what was

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that whole nonsense? Oh you you said nice things about

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Biden and you you went to a campaign rally for Biden. Well,

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why wouldn't someone who's fighting for the survival of his

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country not try to do everything they can to support

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the administration that was in power, who had been doing

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things to support them, to try to keep his people

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from dying. But you're gonna now hold that against him?

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I mean, what kind of pride and arrogance is that?

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Gratitude and ingratitude. Scripture encourages a spirit of thanksgiving. The

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First Thessalonians five eight teen says to give thanks in

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all circumstances, for this is God's will for you in

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Christ Jesus. The confrontation over perceived and gratitude highlights the

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human tendency to seek acknowledgment, yet true service should be

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rendered self leslie, see this is like but I don't

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think it was about acknowledgment. I think they were like,

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you haven't even said thank you. You haven't even said

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thank you. Well, first of all, they have even agreed

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to anything. You haven't even signed anything. They haven't even

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gotten to the point there. Maybe after he signed it

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then he would have said thank you. But Zelinsky has

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said thank you a million times a lot of different places.

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We could probably go find all the audio of all

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the times he has. But here's the thing. Are you

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gonna be sitting there and you didn't even say anything

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about saying thank you until he said those negative things

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about Putin. Then you got upset? Then you but are you?

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Is it going to be some little like children? You

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didn't say thank you enough? You didn't say thank you enough?

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What kind of childishness is the leadership the American people

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voted for was for people who act like schoolyard bullies

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who get upset because someone didn't say thank you enough

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to them? Was Zelinsky supposed to walk into the room,

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fall on the floor, and grovel at their feet and

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kiss the ring peacemaking Jesus taught, blessed are the peacemakers,

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for they will be called children of God. The abrupt

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end to peace discussions serves as a reminder of the

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challenges in peacemaking and the necessity for perseverance patients and

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empathy and resolving conflicts. Now, the thing is is were

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they upset because oh, we were offended? Well, let's worry

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about stopping a war. What's more important. We were offended

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because you get out, We're not going to have anything

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to do with you. Okay, Well then I guess you

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can do that, or I don't know. You said you

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were going to bring this to an end in one day.

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It's been more than one day. Come on, show us

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your great ability to bring it to an end. In conclusion,

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this event and I got more here I could go

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through serves as a point, a powerful reminder of the

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complexities inherent and international relations and the Biblical call for

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leaders to embody humility, gratitude. And you would hope a

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step commitment to peace. All right, so we could probably

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break it down a little bit more. And I am

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more than willing to acknowledge this because I'm gonna get

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all the Putin supporters and all the Russian supporters and

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all those who hate Zelensky. They're gonna start filling my

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email box. We'll go ahead, all you MAGA supporters, support

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Russia all you want. I'm more than willing. Is Zelensky perfect?

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No?

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Is Ukraine perfect?

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I don't know. This is a shocker. Is Trump perfect?

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Is United States of America perfect?

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No?

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Has Ukraine done things in their past that's probably wrong? Yes?

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Has America done a list of things wrong in the past. Yes.

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The issue is who invaded home. Russia invaded Ukraine. And typically,

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for the most part, we have understood Russia to be

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an existential threat to the United States of America. But

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something changed, Something changed? What changed? Well, this I needed

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AI to help me structure this. There has been a

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shift among conservative politicians and many Christians towards supporting Russia

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and Vladimir Putin. And this can only be attributed to

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maybe a combination of political, ideological, and cultural factors. They

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can only be attributed to basically those three things political, political, ideological,

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and cultural. I'll go with that. I'll break it down

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that way, political, ideological, and cultural. Now you may have

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seen this among your Christian friends, Christian family members, who

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all of a sudden seem to be like pro Russia,

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pro Russian, pro put down with Szelenski, Let's go Russia.

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We're in team Russia. Remember when it was like, you know,

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don't you remember the Rocky movie? Okay, the Russians versus America? Right,

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don't you remember that? Don't you remember? I mean I don't.

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Some of you are too young. Maybe this is a

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younger generation. I don't know what is happening here, Okay,

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but there's been a shift. It's political, it's ideological. Let's

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look at the cultural and social conservativism. Many Conservatives and

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some Christians perceive Russia as a defender of traditional values,

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particularly in opposition to what they see the increasing secularization

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and liberalization of the West. So what some Christians like, Oh,

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what we are enemy is secularism. Our enemy is liberalism.

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See Christians stopped fighting a spiritual war a long time ago.

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Oh they still like to describe it as a spiritual war.

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No no, no, no, no, no, no no no. What they

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want is conservative We want to get rid of liberalism.

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We want conservativism. They replaced the Gospel. They replace Christianity

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with conservativism. They try to disguise it as Christian conservativism,

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but it's a political conservativism, it's not a spiritual conservativism.

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So they see Russia. Russia hates secularism, Russia hates being woke,

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Russia hates liberal Oh, so we're gonna support Russia. What

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in the world is going on here?

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Right?

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Putin has positioned himself as a proponent of Christian orthodoxy.

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That's how he's at least positioned himself. And I guess

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that's all you have to do. Trump did the same thing. See,

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there's many Christians. If the leader just gives some kind

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of lip service, just pretends some allegianate to Christianity. Christians

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are like, there's our team, there's our guy. We don't care,

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we don't care if it even truly even is Christianity.

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They say they're on our side. We don't care that

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we will sell our sole for anyone who we think

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is a political ally. So Putin has positioned himself as

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a proponent of Christian orthodoxy, traditional family values, and opposition

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to progressive social movements. Because there's nothing that's more traditional

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family value than invading another country and killing people to

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take their land. But okay, that's you know, what do

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I know? Opposition to progressive social movements such as LGBTQ rights,

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which resonate with certain conservative groups like, hey, he hates LGBTQ,

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like we do. All right, we're pro Russia because they

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hate LGBTQ. Well, that's the way we do things now

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in Christianity, because our issue shouldn't be LGPTQ. It should

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not be Our issue should be there is sin, and

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the Gospel calls people to repentance and faith in Jesus Christ,

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and there say by an imputed righteousness it should be

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that right. But no, no, no, no, no, no no no

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no no, let's side with them. Oh, look at them. Well,

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at that point, I guess we join the Muslims because

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most Muslim countries are against LGBTQ. Right, So let's join

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the Muslims as well. Right. In fact, let's just forego

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Christianity and let's just have a conservative utopia where we

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have conservative values. And I guess many Christians will be happy.

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They don't really care about Christ tem crucified in the Gospel.

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They just care about conservativism. Oh, I hate wokeism. You

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hear it in sermons all the time. This woke stuff,

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this woke stuff, this woke stuff, this transgender stuff, this

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LGBTQ stuff, And that's all they ever want to argue about. No,

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how about I don't know. I don't care if they're woke.

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I don't care if they're LGBTQ, I don't care if

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they're transgender. They're human beings created in the image of God.

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They have a sinful nature. And whether it's that sin

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or it's all the sins of a heterosexual, white male,

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it doesn't matter who they are. That's still sin and

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they still need the same Gospel. How about we worry

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00:26:53.400 --> 00:26:57.279
about the Gospel and discipleship and not this political nonsense.

463
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When we get into these culture wars, fighting political battles,

464
00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:01.960
and we do so in the name of Jesus Christ,

465
00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:05.119
and therefore we so connect Christ to these political battles,

466
00:27:05.440 --> 00:27:09.160
the church becomes a political institution instead of a spiritual institution.

467
00:27:09.319 --> 00:27:11.559
And at that point shut the doors down. Everyone goes

468
00:27:11.599 --> 00:27:16.759
home and nobody go back to church because it's a joke. Yeah,

469
00:27:17.640 --> 00:27:27.240
I'm being calm. So this cultural and social conservativism trumps

470
00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:33.200
no pun intended, well true biblical Christianity. Then there was

471
00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:38.119
this distrust of globalism and Western institutions. Some of the

472
00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:42.240
right view global institutions such as the United Nations, European Union,

473
00:27:42.279 --> 00:27:46.799
and NATO as overreaching entities that undermine national sovereignty, and

474
00:27:46.839 --> 00:27:49.680
you'll have christian I mean, this goes all the way

475
00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:53.400
back to the nineties when I was listening to the

476
00:27:53.400 --> 00:27:58.440
Prophecy Club, which was crazy conspiratorial Christian program, and it

477
00:27:58.480 --> 00:28:02.160
was like the United Nations, it's this, and it's this,

478
00:28:02.279 --> 00:28:04.440
and they're gonna take away our rights and we're gonna

479
00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:06.319
be we're all gonna be marked with the beast. And

480
00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:08.240
then this is the way Antichrist is gonna come to

481
00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:10.799
the power, We're going to receive the mark of the beast,

482
00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:14.319
if I can speak correctly. And so Christians were already

483
00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:17.799
kind of being shaped to have this distrust for those institutions. Well,

484
00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:24.680
guess what Russia opposes those institutions. Russia aligns with a

485
00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:28.960
broader conservative skepticism towards globalist policies, which they see as

486
00:28:29.000 --> 00:28:33.319
eroding national identity and self determination. Well, Russia's against those institutions.

487
00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:36.519
Were against those institutions, Hey, or on Russia side. Wait,

488
00:28:36.799 --> 00:28:42.480
Russia hates liberalism and wokeism and hates oh, so we'll

489
00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:51.440
be on Russia side. Number three. Opposition to US foreign

490
00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:55.799
policy and the deep state, deep state narrative. Many conservatives

491
00:28:55.839 --> 00:28:59.279
have become increasingly critical of US foreign intervention, particularly after

492
00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:02.599
Wars and and Afghanistan, which we're seeing as failures. Now,

493
00:29:02.599 --> 00:29:05.000
I got no problem. They were failures and they were

494
00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:08.519
a disaster, and I completely agree. Some believe US intelligence

495
00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:13.519
agencies and establishment politicians exaggerate threats from Russia to maintain

496
00:29:13.599 --> 00:29:17.680
military industrial interests and control public opinions. So it's say, hey,

497
00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:21.799
when the intelligence community says Russia is a threat, no no, no, no

498
00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:24.000
no no no no, we don't believe that they're a

499
00:29:24.039 --> 00:29:27.559
part of the deep State. I'm going to believe this

500
00:29:27.599 --> 00:29:30.640
guy on YouTube, or I'm going to believe Alex Jones,

501
00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:32.880
or I'm going to believe Tucker Carlson, or I'm going

502
00:29:32.960 --> 00:29:36.680
to believe whatever. While rushing talking points, I can hear.

503
00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:40.640
Because Russia's the good guys. We're just we just try

504
00:29:40.680 --> 00:29:42.680
to we try to make them the bad guys, but

505
00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:50.240
they're really the good guys. The narrative that the deep

506
00:29:50.319 --> 00:29:53.960
state opposes Russia, the narrative that the deep state opposes

507
00:29:54.039 --> 00:29:57.920
Russia fuel skepticism, leading some to sympathize with Russia as

508
00:29:57.960 --> 00:30:01.319
a counterbalance. So the deep State they try to make

509
00:30:01.400 --> 00:30:06.000
Russia look bad. Right, So the deep state hates Russia,

510
00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:08.720
but the deep State is bad. So we can't be

511
00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:10.839
and we can't say Russia is bad because that would

512
00:30:10.839 --> 00:30:12.720
put us in line with the deep state, whatever the

513
00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:14.480
deep state is, and so we have to be on

514
00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:17.720
Russia side. Now, these are people who get into the

515
00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:21.480
weeds of politics and conspiracy theories, and again they've abandoned

516
00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:27.519
anything that even remotely looks like Christianity. Number four. Another

517
00:30:27.599 --> 00:30:30.599
reason this shift has occurred Putin's anti woke and anti

518
00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:34.119
liberal stance. Russia has consistently criticized the West for its

519
00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:38.640
embrace of progressive ideologies related to gender, race, and identity politics.

520
00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:42.319
Many conservatives see this as a refreshing contrast to what

521
00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:49.440
they perceive as a Western decadence, ideological censorship, and cultural decline. Hey,

522
00:30:50.920 --> 00:30:53.240
Putin hates these kinds of things. We hate these kinds

523
00:30:53.240 --> 00:30:55.119
of things. We'll be on putin side. Who cares? You know?

524
00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:59.519
If he kills his opponents, kills journalists, who cares anything,

525
00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:08.200
It doesn't matter. We're on his side. And a fifth

526
00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:12.839
reason this shift has taken place media influence and conservative figures.

527
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:17.079
Certain influential media personalities and politicians, such as Tucker Carlson

528
00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:23.240
have amplified narratives that frame Russia favorably Fox News many

529
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:29.039
other conservative media. These figures often highlight perceived corruption and

530
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:32.599
moral decay in the US government, while contrasting with russia

531
00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:39.160
supposedly stronger nationalistic Are you ready for this? Christian values?

532
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:47.839
Russia has Christian values. America's decadent. We need to support Russia.

533
00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:50.440
I guess if we support Russia so much, maybe we

534
00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:52.960
just invite them to take over our entire country and

535
00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:55.279
then we can see the Russian national anthem and we

536
00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:58.039
can have the Russian flag flying over the White House.

537
00:31:58.119 --> 00:32:05.960
Will that make all of you Christians happy? A sixth

538
00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:09.960
reason this shift has taken place Ukraine War skepticism. Some

539
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:13.480
conservative question the level of US financial and military aid

540
00:32:13.519 --> 00:32:18.160
to Ukraine, arguing that it diverts resources from domestic issues. Now,

541
00:32:18.279 --> 00:32:20.920
I got no problem. How much money should we give

542
00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:23.799
to the Ukrainian government to try to fight this war?

543
00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:26.920
How much is it worth? How much is it worth?

544
00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:30.960
If we spend billions or trillions, what is it worth?

545
00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:34.359
What do we get from it? I can understand that.

546
00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:40.359
What's you can have that as a reasonable and rational discussion.

547
00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:44.319
Some may say, well, I think it stops. It forces

548
00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:47.400
Russia not to go any further. They're stopped. They can't

549
00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:49.920
take over because if they take over Ukraine, it can

550
00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:53.400
make other countries vulnerable, which could only lead to greater conflict.

551
00:32:53.599 --> 00:32:55.599
So either we spend the money now or we spend

552
00:32:55.640 --> 00:32:58.079
the money later. Let's spend the money now and not

553
00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:01.680
let Russia advance. You could, you can make arguments both ways.

554
00:33:03.119 --> 00:33:06.279
You can make I got no problem understanding it. It's

555
00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:09.759
lots of money. I understand that how much money do

556
00:33:09.799 --> 00:33:13.400
we have? What can we do? I understand it's difficult.

557
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:18.440
Now we could also say, well, we may not want

558
00:33:18.440 --> 00:33:21.279
to spend the money, but that doesn't make Putin the

559
00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:23.799
good guy for invading, right, we wouldn't be spending the

560
00:33:23.839 --> 00:33:26.720
money if Putin would I don't know, not invaded. So

561
00:33:26.920 --> 00:33:31.480
maybe that's the issue, right, I don't know. A narrative

562
00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:34.920
exists that Ukraine is corrupt and that continued support risk

563
00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:38.079
escalating conflict with Russia, which is seen as a nuclear

564
00:33:38.200 --> 00:33:41.759
armed power. You hear this on Alex Jones all the time.

565
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:44.880
Ukraine is corrupt and if we continue to support them,

566
00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:46.519
this is going to turn into world War three. You

567
00:33:46.559 --> 00:33:49.359
even heard Trump mention the same thing in that press conference.

568
00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:52.279
We're all going to die. We've got to stop world

569
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:54.279
War three? And how do we stop world War three?

570
00:33:54.480 --> 00:34:01.920
Let Russia have Ukraine. The argument that Ukraine's government is

571
00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:06.000
not a perfect democracy and has had issues with corruption

572
00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:09.079
has been used to justify skepticism. Okay, well guess what

573
00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:13.400
is our country always been perfect? And yeah, man, whatever

574
00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:18.639
Now philological and biblical considerations. From a biblical and philological standpoint,

575
00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:23.199
this shift presents several concerns that this shift. There's no

576
00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:26.880
way to get around it. The shift has happened. It's

577
00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:29.599
happened inside the church, has happened outside the church. There's

578
00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:31.920
no way to get around this. And so what led

579
00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:34.800
to this shift? Let me go through those again. Number one,

580
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:40.840
A cultural and social conservativism is perceived that Russia has it.

581
00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:43.599
Ukraine down't so Russia is the good guys, I guess

582
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:49.320
all right, distrust of globalism and Western institutions. Hey, these institutions,

583
00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:52.920
Russia hates them, and well we hate them, so we're

584
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:56.400
going to join Russia. Opposition to US foreign policy and

585
00:34:56.440 --> 00:34:58.960
the deep state narrative. Hey, we don't like how we've

586
00:34:59.000 --> 00:35:02.199
done foreign policy. Let's support Russia. The deep state is

587
00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:06.480
against Russia. So we're for Russia. Putin's anti woke and

588
00:35:06.519 --> 00:35:11.159
antiliberal stance, Well, Putin hates wokeism, Putin hates liberals. Well

589
00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:15.239
we're for We're pro Russia. Then number five, media influence

590
00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:18.840
and conservative figures continue give you Russian talking points and

591
00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:21.440
you buy into it. So then you're pro Russia for

592
00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:25.760
some weird reason. Six Ukraine War skepticism that leads to it.

593
00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:28.840
Those are the six reasons this shift has occurred. Now

594
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:32.639
if we look at it from a biblical and philological perspective.

595
00:35:33.920 --> 00:35:38.559
Selective morality and politics aligning with Russia purely based on

596
00:35:38.679 --> 00:35:44.039
cultural conservativism can overlook serious moral and ethical issues, including

597
00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:51.320
political oppression, human rights violations, and aggressive warfare. For example,

598
00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:56.920
Russia's actions in Ukraine. Scripture warns against compromising righteousness for

599
00:35:57.079 --> 00:36:06.280
political expediency. We should not compromise righteousness for political expediency, right,

600
00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:08.719
And I'm thinking, hang on, let me. I don't want to.

601
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:10.400
I don't want to give you the reference until I

602
00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:13.000
look at it. I don't know if it's going to

603
00:36:13.039 --> 00:36:18.159
be the one I want. I hang on here, Yeah,

604
00:36:18.280 --> 00:36:21.239
righteousness exalted the nation, but sin is a approach to

605
00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:24.400
any people. Well, hey, just because someone appears to have

606
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:28.079
some oh look there's some conservativism there, Well, then do

607
00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:31.000
we just go with go with them because they're moral

608
00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:35.800
against their morality aligns with our morality on these issues,

609
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:43.239
But then we overlook all of the other things. I

610
00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:50.159
don't know. That's it's very selective morality, and we do that.

611
00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:54.440
You know, when when President Clinton got busted for what

612
00:36:54.519 --> 00:36:57.840
happened in the Oval office and his affair, oh culled

613
00:36:58.960 --> 00:37:02.159
character matters he's unfit for the White House. This is

614
00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:05.440
ungodly sin as a approach to this nation. Get rid

615
00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:07.880
of him. But then Trump comes along, Well, we're not

616
00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:11.719
electing a pope, we're not electing a pastor. And then

617
00:37:11.760 --> 00:37:14.119
we make every excuse for every and moral thing the

618
00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:21.840
man does, because hey, that's okay, it's select that's because

619
00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:24.199
we stop looking at things from a biblical perspective when

620
00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:26.159
we look at things from what kind of a perspective,

621
00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:31.239
from a political ideology and a cultural ideology, because Christianity

622
00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:38.119
has abandoned Christianity for political expediency nationalism versus Christian allegiance.

623
00:37:38.599 --> 00:37:44.440
While nations have distinct identities, a Christian's primary allegiance should

624
00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:46.559
be to Christ in the Kingdom of God, rather than

625
00:37:46.639 --> 00:37:53.199
any geopolitical entity. Over Identification with any political power risks

626
00:37:53.519 --> 00:37:58.480
idolla Tree. Let me say that again. Over identification with

627
00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:05.800
any political power can risk idolatry. You don't want to

628
00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:08.880
be known as a Republican. You don't want to be

629
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:12.199
known as Maga. You don't even want to be known

630
00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:15.639
as an American. You're supposed to be known for your

631
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:24.000
identity and Christ and that you are a Christian, all right,

632
00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:29.719
So this nationalism versus Christian allegiance number three, peacemaking and justice.

633
00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:32.639
The Bible calls believers to seek peace and justice, while

634
00:38:32.639 --> 00:38:37.079
skepticism towards US foreign policy is valid. Excusing aggression or

635
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:46.079
oppression for ideological reasons contradicts Biblical ethics. Discerning propaganda, both

636
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:51.320
the West and Russian narratives include propaganda. Christians should seek truth,

637
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:55.599
test all claims, and avoid being swayed by political rhetoric.

638
00:38:57.239 --> 00:39:02.000
Stop falling for talking points, stop falling for propaganda, stop

639
00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:12.239
falling for these these narratives that are handed to you. Well,

640
00:39:12.360 --> 00:39:19.199
some conservatives and Christians view Russia's stance on social issues favorably.

641
00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:25.440
A biblical perspective requires careful discernment, ensuring that geopolitical alignment

642
00:39:25.599 --> 00:39:29.920
do not come at the expense of justice, truth, and

643
00:39:29.960 --> 00:39:40.199
the love for all people. Now, I don't know what happens.

644
00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:42.599
I don't know what the fallout here is. I don't know.

645
00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:46.360
Right now, I'm getting so many notifications from my podcast

646
00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:50.519
apps are literally blowing up right now because of all

647
00:39:50.559 --> 00:39:54.639
of the Yeah, just everyone is. Everyone is talking about

648
00:39:54.639 --> 00:39:59.280
this right now. If we look at thank God, I'm

649
00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:03.679
going to look here looking at a number of sources. Well,

650
00:40:05.400 --> 00:40:07.360
just another breaking news. The pope has been put on

651
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:12.039
a ventilator. So that that situation. Okay, Oh yeah, here

652
00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:16.920
we go. So Oval Office shouting match, Trump blast, disrespectful Zelensky,

653
00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:23.320
peace talks collapse, the Kremlin celebrates. Do you need any

654
00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:25.599
more than that? The Kremlin celebrates?

655
00:40:26.360 --> 00:40:26.719
All right?

656
00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:30.199
I mean, come on, what else more more do you need? Here? Okay?

657
00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:33.159
Hang on, that just did not go to the news

658
00:40:33.239 --> 00:40:36.239
article that I wanted. Hang on, here we go. Yeah,

659
00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:40.360
Vladimir Putin's Kremlin celebrates as Donald Trump ends the Ukraine talks.

660
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:43.960
The much anticipated meeting between Donald Trump and Vladimir Zelensky

661
00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:48.800
ended in a shouting match of Vladimir Putin's close close

662
00:40:48.920 --> 00:40:52.639
ally and former Russian president celebrated the descent and the

663
00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:56.360
chaos of a meeting between Ukraine and US presidents at

664
00:40:56.400 --> 00:41:02.880
the White House today. All right, and so they well,

665
00:41:03.119 --> 00:41:06.719
there we go. They refer to him as the insolent pig.

666
00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:09.880
Finally got a proper slap down in the Oval Office,

667
00:41:11.880 --> 00:41:16.440
all right, Donald Donald Trump is right. So his insult

668
00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:19.800
came after President Donald Trump and Vice President JD. Evance

669
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:23.760
be rated Ukrainian Ukraine's leader and an extraordinary meeting at

670
00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:34.199
the White House. All right? Uh you see here, Yeah,

671
00:41:34.239 --> 00:41:36.639
there's there's a whole bunch going on here, all right.

672
00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:39.679
So but Kremlin is celebrating it. Yeah, and I guess

673
00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:42.960
Christians will. And I've already seen on a numerous news

674
00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:47.119
articles the comments, the pro Trump comments. I mean, I

675
00:41:47.639 --> 00:41:51.400
looked on truth social for crying out loud. Trump is right.

676
00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:55.119
Trump is right, Trump Trump, Trump Trump. He's basically God,

677
00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:58.400
he can't do anything wrong. Don't dare criticize him. Putin

678
00:41:58.599 --> 00:42:04.239
is right. It's the new Trinity. Is Trump, Putin and JD. Vance.

679
00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:09.079
There's the new Trinity. No, don't dare criticize it. As

680
00:42:09.079 --> 00:42:19.599
a Christian, I don't, man, this politicizing of American Christianity

681
00:42:19.679 --> 00:42:22.079
has got to scuf again. To me, this is what

682
00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:27.039
I'll say this again. If I was an atheist, if

683
00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:34.159
I was an agnostic, Okay, but I was socially conservative, right,

684
00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:36.800
I was socially conservative for whatever reason. But I'm an

685
00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:40.599
atheist and agnostic. I believe in conservativism maybe when it

686
00:42:40.639 --> 00:42:45.639
relates to certain social matters, maybe certain uh maybe foreign policy,

687
00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:50.039
maybe economics. Well, then if I was an atheist and agnostic,

688
00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:53.320
I would be so pro Trump and pro Maga because

689
00:42:53.360 --> 00:42:57.519
who cares about right wrong? Character, godliness? Who cares about

690
00:42:57.559 --> 00:43:01.000
love for others? Empathy, sympathy, who cares about compassion? Who

691
00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:04.840
cares about anything? Just go in Call people names, mock people,

692
00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:08.880
say outrageous saying lie, lie. You can say a thousand lives.

693
00:43:08.920 --> 00:43:11.199
There's no ethics in what you do. Just get me

694
00:43:11.320 --> 00:43:14.119
what I want. I want this put in place, and

695
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:15.920
I want put this in place, and I don't care.

696
00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:17.519
I don't care. If you stand in front of people,

697
00:43:17.559 --> 00:43:20.960
say they're eating the cats, they're eating the dogs. Of course,

698
00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:22.719
when he got elected, he never mentioned the eating of

699
00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:24.440
the cats and the dogs. Did he send anyone to

700
00:43:24.519 --> 00:43:26.880
Ohio to stop the eating of the cats and the dogs?

701
00:43:26.920 --> 00:43:28.679
Did he care about the cats and the dogs? No,

702
00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:31.559
he didn't do a sticking thing. Because he is a liar.

703
00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:39.559
He says crazy stuff. The Maga people eat the stuff up,

704
00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:41.880
and they don't care. If he's a boy, they don't care.

705
00:43:41.920 --> 00:43:43.880
If he's rude, they don't care if he's lie. Well,

706
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:46.519
if I was an atheist and an agnoscib, go for it,

707
00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:49.960
go for it. Tear them up, call them names, do this,

708
00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:52.960
do that. Just get me what I want. I want

709
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:57.320
this conservative utopia to be established in the image of Trump,

710
00:43:57.360 --> 00:44:00.599
and I'm all for it. Okay, Great, I'll store the

711
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:04.079
Capitol building, I'll do whatever. Great, everyone do what is

712
00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:06.480
right in their own eyes for the ultimate win of Trump,

713
00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:09.599
so that Trump can then implement all of his policies. Great,

714
00:44:09.960 --> 00:44:16.760
that's wonderful. But if you are a Christian, you would

715
00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:19.719
think there would be some all some very conflicting problems

716
00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:27.199
you would have here lying false witness, dehumanizing and making

717
00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:29.159
people the enemy. Oh, I mean just we could go

718
00:44:29.199 --> 00:44:32.960
on and on and on and on supporting a known

719
00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:44.480
dictator by the name of Putin over the Ukrainian people. Now,

720
00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:47.159
I said at the beginning of this year that the

721
00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:48.800
one thing I did not want to do is turn

722
00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:50.559
this into a news podcast. I don't, I'm not. I

723
00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:53.119
don't want to go talking about news, talking about current events.

724
00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:55.800
I don't want to do that. And I've done prutty good.

725
00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:58.039
I've tried to stay out of it for the most

726
00:44:58.559 --> 00:45:00.519
If people are maga, they can be. I'm not going

727
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:02.480
to get involved. I stay out of it. I try

728
00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:05.559
to let people do their own thing politically, because I no, no,

729
00:45:05.679 --> 00:45:08.199
this is not my this is not my world. I

730
00:45:08.199 --> 00:45:11.000
am just passing through. I'm a stranger here. I'm against

731
00:45:11.079 --> 00:45:14.679
the whole political thing. Christianity should not be associated with politics.

732
00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:17.519
We are not, We are separate from, We are transcendent of.

733
00:45:17.639 --> 00:45:20.239
We want people who are maga. We want people who

734
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:23.079
are liberal. We want everyone to come to Christ, believe

735
00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:26.440
in Christ, learn Christ, follow Christ. We don't care about

736
00:45:26.760 --> 00:45:31.239
national identity, racial identity, political identity. We care about coming

737
00:45:31.280 --> 00:45:34.639
to be following Christ. So I've tried to stay out

738
00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:37.519
of it, but sometimes you just got to speak up.

739
00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:40.079
I try to stay out of it, but so many

740
00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:43.239
times Trump will say something and I'm like, this is it,

741
00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:46.199
can't get work, and then then today happens, and today happens,

742
00:45:47.400 --> 00:45:50.960
and then immediately I've already seen Trump is right. Trump

743
00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:53.480
is right, Trump is right. Zelenski's a piece of trash

744
00:45:54.559 --> 00:45:57.960
or an insolent pig or whatever Russian talking points are

745
00:45:58.000 --> 00:46:02.760
following now. I want Russians to come to Christ. I

746
00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:05.239
want Ukrainians to come to Christ. I want those in

747
00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:07.400
Gaza to come to Christ. I want those in Israel

748
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:10.360
to come to Christ. I want people to be treated

749
00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:13.320
with dignity and respect as human beings created in the

750
00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:15.760
image of God and not be reduced to call it

751
00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:21.280
to dehumanizing them and only identifying them by their race, gender,

752
00:46:21.800 --> 00:46:33.559
national identity, or their political affiliation. Now, I tried to

753
00:46:33.559 --> 00:46:38.400
break that down as clear as I could. So what

754
00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:40.159
did we look at. I'm going to do the whole

755
00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:43.840
United States Air Force speech. I'm going to tell you

756
00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:46.639
what we talked about. I kind of gave you. We

757
00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:49.360
listened to an audio clip of what happened in the

758
00:46:49.400 --> 00:46:52.360
press in the White House today, which was insane. We

759
00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:55.280
talked about the dramatic and unexpected turn of events that

760
00:46:55.360 --> 00:46:57.199
happened in a meeting at the White House between US

761
00:46:57.239 --> 00:47:00.320
President Donald Trump and Vice President Jade vance Any and

762
00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:04.360
President of Vladimir of Zelensky. All right, and it erupted

763
00:47:04.400 --> 00:47:07.079
into a heated confrontation. We covered that. I gave you

764
00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:09.679
a summary of the events. I gave you an outline

765
00:47:09.719 --> 00:47:11.840
of the entire incident. I looked at it from a

766
00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:16.079
biblical and theological perspective. Then I talked about this cultural shift,

767
00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:21.000
but within Republicanism, obviously within MAGA, because I don't believe

768
00:47:21.039 --> 00:47:25.079
MAGA and Republicans are the same, not the Republicanism of

769
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:29.480
that the Republican Party. I knew is not Maga. Maga

770
00:47:29.559 --> 00:47:32.639
is not republican, Maga is not even conservative. It's its

771
00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:38.000
own unique cult. Okay. And then so we talked about

772
00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:41.639
this shift within the Maga movement and within many Christians

773
00:47:41.679 --> 00:47:44.719
to support and be pro Russia and pro Putin. We

774
00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:48.719
talked about the reasons cultural and social conservativism, a distrust

775
00:47:48.719 --> 00:47:52.599
in globalism and Western institutions, opposition to US foreign policy

776
00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:55.440
and the deep state narrative, Putin's anti woke and anti

777
00:47:55.440 --> 00:48:00.760
liberal stance, media influence, and conservative figures in Ukrainian war, skepticism.

778
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:05.840
We talked about philological and biblical considerations, selective morality and politics,

779
00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:11.079
nationalism versus Christian allegiance, peacemaking and justice, and discerning propaganda.

780
00:48:11.400 --> 00:48:13.679
That's what we've talked about. I hope this has been

781
00:48:13.719 --> 00:48:17.840
somewhat beneficial. Please please, please, please please remember this was

782
00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:22.199
all happening in real time. I'm responding to its close

783
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:28.440
to the events as possible. So there may not have

784
00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:32.840
been nuance, there may not have been getting every piece

785
00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:35.960
of the puzzle right, but the puzzle at least need

786
00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:38.199
I needed at least throw all the pieces of the

787
00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:41.519
puzzle on the table and discuss it. You can say

788
00:48:41.559 --> 00:48:43.519
you have a bias, and I will admit it. I

789
00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:46.920
have a bias. I am not pro Putin, I am

790
00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:49.840
not pro Russia, and I believe that what they did

791
00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:53.280
in invading Ukraine was wrong, and I believe the Ukrainian

792
00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:56.320
people should be supported. Whether I agree with the Ukrainian

793
00:48:56.360 --> 00:48:58.760
government in every issue is not the point. I think

794
00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:01.519
the aggression in Ukraine needs to stop. The invasion needs

795
00:49:01.519 --> 00:49:06.119
to stop. Russia needs to pull back, leave Ukrainian soil

796
00:49:06.440 --> 00:49:09.719
and then go from there. And if you have a

797
00:49:09.760 --> 00:49:13.599
grievance against Ukraine, then let's see how we can work

798
00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:17.039
that out. I cannot believe that Zelensky ends up in

799
00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:22.239
this press conference and basically gets bullied by the President

800
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:25.760
of the United States and JD Vance, the Vice President

801
00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:29.039
of the United States. I believe it's disgusting and vile.

802
00:49:29.400 --> 00:49:32.960
I cannot believe that, and I cannot believe that Trump

803
00:49:33.039 --> 00:49:35.159
basically has already now. I think he came back and

804
00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:38.599
tried to backtrack a little bit, but he called Zolensky

805
00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:41.519
the dictator. Won't call Putin a dictator. Won't say anything

806
00:49:41.559 --> 00:49:44.840
negative about Putin. The whole thing is disgusting. The whole

807
00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:47.400
thing is sickening. The whole thing is vile, and I

808
00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:50.599
can't stand it, right, I can't stand it. Now. There

809
00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:52.440
is a part of me, I'm just gonna be very

810
00:49:52.440 --> 00:49:56.320
honest with you, Okay, inside of me, I'm just gonna

811
00:49:56.320 --> 00:49:59.119
be honest. I don't want to talk to a Trump supporter.

812
00:49:59.360 --> 00:50:01.519
I don't want to get near a Trump supporter. I

813
00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:03.599
don't have any because I don't know how you support

814
00:50:03.639 --> 00:50:05.519
the things he has done and the things he has said.

815
00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:08.519
We're just gonna take Gaza. We're gonna take it. We're's

816
00:50:08.559 --> 00:50:10.639
gonna take it, and we're gonna move the people. The

817
00:50:10.679 --> 00:50:15.159
things that have happened here during this administration are insane.

818
00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:20.400
But that would be wrong of me. What I need

819
00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:22.719
to do is see a Trump supporter and see a

820
00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:26.639
non Trump supporter not and I should not identify them

821
00:50:26.960 --> 00:50:31.239
by their political affiliation, their political allegiance. What I should

822
00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:34.920
see is human beings who are sinners, just like me.

823
00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:38.119
They have their flaws and just like I have far

824
00:50:38.280 --> 00:50:40.079
I probably have far more than they do. I know

825
00:50:40.159 --> 00:50:43.320
I do, right, but but we all need Christ and

826
00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:48.960
that in Christ. We see, we see Christ, we see

827
00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:52.599
a Christian, we see we perceive them based off what

828
00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:55.119
they are positionally a new creature in Christ, all things

829
00:50:55.119 --> 00:50:58.679
are passed away, all things are new, and we don't

830
00:50:58.960 --> 00:51:04.039
allow those political differences get there. Now where I will

831
00:51:04.159 --> 00:51:08.440
get all ticked off is when I hear Trump supporters

832
00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:13.880
say things that are just fraudulent, factually in error. They

833
00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:17.960
just make up facts. They they and they recite lies

834
00:51:18.079 --> 00:51:20.519
Trump has said, and when you try to correct it,

835
00:51:20.639 --> 00:51:23.280
that's fake news. That's fake news, because the only thing

836
00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:26.559
that's real news is what agrees with their majestic leader Trump.

837
00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:29.960
Now that's when I get mad. Now, that's not me

838
00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:32.800
getting mad at the Trump supporter. That's me getting mad

839
00:51:32.840 --> 00:51:36.800
at the lies and that type of thing. And the

840
00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:39.360
same thing for the non Trump supporter, the same thing.

841
00:51:41.800 --> 00:51:43.480
So what I have to do is not allow my

842
00:51:43.559 --> 00:51:46.400
emotions to get out of whack here, because my emotions

843
00:51:46.440 --> 00:51:49.760
are not good right now, they're not. I can't believe

844
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:51.960
what happened. I just can't believe this occurred. I just

845
00:51:52.039 --> 00:51:58.079
cannot believe we witness this. How did they say it?

846
00:51:58.119 --> 00:51:58.639
At the beginning?

847
00:51:58.679 --> 00:51:58.840
Here?

848
00:51:58.920 --> 00:52:01.119
Let me go back and play the very beginning of this.

849
00:52:03.760 --> 00:52:07.239
Gambling with their lives and millions of people. You're gambling

850
00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:11.360
with World War three you're gambling with World War three

851
00:52:12.039 --> 00:52:16.039
and what you're doing is very disrespectful to the country.

852
00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:19.519
This country. It's back to you far more than a

853
00:52:19.519 --> 00:52:21.440
lot of people said they should have.

854
00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:25.239
Have you said thank you once this Hello and welcome

855
00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:30.079
to Ukraine. The latest. We've only recorded an emergency podcast

856
00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:34.719
once before, when Progosion launched his mutiny, but we have

857
00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:39.280
just watched one of the most extraordinary press conferences in

858
00:52:39.320 --> 00:52:40.559
modern political history.

859
00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:49.760
One of the most extraordinary press conferences and modern political history.

860
00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:57.880
So may God have mercy on all of us. Thank

861
00:52:57.920 --> 00:52:58.599
you for listening.