Sept. 22, 2024

Therefore Pt 2

Therefore Pt 2

We look at Romans 2:1

We look at Romans 2:1

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All right, you can turn to Romans chapter two. We

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have been working through the Book of Romans, looking at

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the therefores and therefore we come to today. Well, it

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came at a very interesting time because this last week

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has been crazy of the things that have happened in

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the world of politics and what has happened in the

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world of Christianity. A lot of times I tried to

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determine how much to bring that's going on outside of

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the church to the text. In this particular case, our

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passage in Romans today screams that we've got to talk

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about these issues. So here's what's happened. Now, when I

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put this together, this had all happened within a twenty

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four hour time span. All right, So this had all

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happened and basically a twenty four hour time span. You ready, Okay,

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all the kids are out, Okay, good, all right, here

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we go. All right. In the last twenty four hours,

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tie trans politician who talked about LGBTQ and all of

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that being disgusting and being vile and condemning it. This

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very politician, well was linked to a transgender porn website.

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They found his information there. They found that he had

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been frequently, frequently attending or viewing the site and making

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comments on the site as some of those comments are

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absolutely insane. I won't even talk about the things he

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said on the site. They're crazy. This was all over

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the news. They're still doing more investigating. I'm not going

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to name the name because they're still investigating it. But

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his email was linked to the account, and he was

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also found on Ashley Madison where is you know, a

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site where you hook up with people and all kinds

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of just not good things, okay, And yeah, he's a

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very important Republican politician, very much connected to Trump. And well,

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now you know, what do you do well, because you know,

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he was all about mora and family values. Then an

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anti gay activist who typically on Fox News a lot

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was revealed too well being gay porn not good, right.

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And then another congressman who was all about save the

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children and you know, we got to protect our children,

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We got to protect our children, was found to be

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doing drugs at a party where people are engaging in

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physical relations with a high school junior. That's all what's

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going on over in the Republican world about family values

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and morality. At the same time, that was all coming

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out and everybody was losing their minds, and I was

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getting things sent to me and I'm like, what in

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the world this is so bad? And to see some

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of these people, like the guy, the anti gay activist,

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I mean he's posted he posted something on social media about,

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you know, homosexuality, and then all of a sudden, immediately

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people like, isn't this you And there were screenshots from

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all the pornographic films he'd been in, and yeah, I mean,

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what do you I mean, that's insane. Right, So all

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of that's unfolding and it's ugly and it's a mess. Well,

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one of the most prominent lordship pastors all right, if

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you name the top three lordship pastor, you'd have MacArthur

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and RC Sprawl and then you would have the third one.

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I'm not going to mention his name. He was removed

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from ministry because of sin and it's been everywhere. It's

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been chaotic and it's been crazy. All of this happened

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within like a twenty four hour time span, within twenty

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four hours, and all of this would have implication within

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the Christian world because the conservative politics are the ones

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supported by Christians. Christians Christians because we got a morality, morality, morality,

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and obviously the lordship pastor, he's very influential. I mean

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he's connected to Master Seminary, connected to lig in your ministries,

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I mean everywhere. I'm not gonna name his name because

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the issue is it's not about any of these individuals.

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It's not about these individuals. Everyone here, I want everyone

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to hear it's not about them. It's about you and me.

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It's about theology. So let me I did this in

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the first hour. Let me state this again. The Christian

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life is a life of sin, and if any church

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tells you different, they're lying to you. Your entire Christian

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life is a life of sin. You sin continually, perpetually,

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and if you don't think you do, you're delusional, and

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now you're committing the sin of lying. It's a life

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of sin. If you need me to prove it to you.

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The Bible commands you to be holy as God is holy.

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Have you ever done that once? No? Because to be

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holy as God is holy me with me, you are

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what perfect. Jesus on the Summer of the Mouth said,

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be ye perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect. Are

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you perfect? No? He says to love your enemy, love

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God with all your heart, mind, body, and so I

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can already just those I can go. Scripture after scripture

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after scripture. Guess what we should all say? We are sinners,

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we were sinners, we are sinners, we will be sinners

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until glorification. Yet the Church comes and says, no, no, no, no,

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no no. When you become a Christian, you're a new

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creature in Christ. The whole things are passed away. Behold,

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all things happy, become new. We preach that, but it's

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not true. It's true positionally, it's not true practically, because

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if it was true practically, if I'm a new creature

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and the oldest gone and everything is new, we wouldn't sin.

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But every church and preaches that nonsense. It's not true.

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And Christianity at large does not know how to handle

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this reality that we all sin, and we all sin,

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and we all sin, and Christianity has a long history

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of trying to deal with it, and it all falls

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apart in the first hour. We looked at how Lordship

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Salvation would handle the fall of this very prominent lordship pastor,

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and lordship can't answer the question, doesn't know what to do.

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Lordship would just say he's not saved, which has already started.

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People are already saying he's not saved because he commit

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and just saying he's been committing sin constantly. But he

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committed one sin. And we always know what's the one

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sin that will end you. Sex. Any other sin is okay,

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but not sec if it's sexual, cut the throat, throw

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the body out, crucify, burn the body, what stone them whatever,

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because that every other sin you can commit, idolatry, you're

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good to go. You can have pride, you're good to go.

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You can lie, deceive, come it, oh, oh good good,

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you are great. But if it's anything in the realm

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of sex, it's the end of the world. And that's

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hard to comprehend. Am I excusing sexual sin? Okay, someone's

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gonna think I'm ex I am not excusing it. It's sin,

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but it's sin. Like now, obviously the sin can have

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other CONTs. Every sin can have consequences though every sin right,

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sexual sin can hurt other people. But your pride can

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hurt other people, Your anger can hurt other people. You

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bearing false witness can hurt other people. When you dehumanize,

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I mean, I can go on and on and on

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and on. All sin typically hurts more than just yourself.

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But it's all sin. Now, why am I bringing all

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of this up? We'll just look today at where we

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are going to. First go to Rome's chapter one. Go

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to Romans chapter one. Let's remind ourselves of the first

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therefore in the book of Romans. Does everybody remember where

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the first one was? Does everybody remember where the first

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one was? It hasn't been that many weeks, has it?

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One twenty four? Okay? Good? All right? Romans one twenty four?

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And we read these words. Therefore, God also gave them up.

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And I put forth a hypothesis that no church in

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Abilene or anywhere else would agree with. And what was

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my hypothesis of this? Therefore and the giving up that

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made mine radically different than any other church? This describes

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all of us pre salvation, post salvation. We have all

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been given up. Church. You go to annapoling will say

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the giving up is not us, it's those bad people.

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And I will argue, we've all been given up. You

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know why we've all been given up? Because it's going

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to describe everything that we are even today. All right,

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So let's go back. Let's put because this is all

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key to where we're going. All right, So where does

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that therefore go back to? Do is everybody remember the therefore?

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And twenty four goes back to where verse eighteen, For

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the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness.

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Everyone hear that all on goodliness? Let me ask you

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a question. Are you still on goodly? Yes? You are

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positionally you're not positionally you are what godly? But practically

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you're ungodly? Because what would it require for you to

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be ungodly? Any sin would would I mean, any sin

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would make you ungodly? Right? Right, all unrighteousness? What would

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be art for you to be unrighteous? Any sin? Right?

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Of men who suppressed the truth and unrighteousness, because what

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may be known of God has manifest in them, For

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God has shown it to them. For since the creation

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of the world, his invisible attributes are clearly seeing being

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understood by the things that are made. Even his eternal

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power in God had so that they are without excuse.

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And that describes all of us. We all repress the

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truth to some level, right, we all push it down,

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we all deny it. But yet it's been clearly manifest

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to all of us. So we're all without excuse, saved

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and unsaved, right because although they knew God, they did

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not glorify him as God, nor were thankful, but became

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fruit futile if I can read rite, and their thoughts

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and their foolish hearts were darkened. Well, I'm sorry, ladies

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and gentlemen. That still describes many of us. Do we

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always glorify God? Are we always thankful? Do we not

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become futile in our thoughts? And do we still not

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have very foolish hearts? Yes? That still describes all of us.

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Professing to be wise, we became fools. That's it. Remember

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I said we should put that in the front of

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every church. This is a church where people who walk

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in profess to be fools. But we are professing to

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be wise. But we are all what fools? That is

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literally every church professing to be wise. We are foolish.

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That is every church. Every Christians love to profess to

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be what? Why give me a break? Right, We're just

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as foolish as anybody else. We change the glory of

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the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man

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and birds and four footed animals and creeping things. Now

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we may not have create, We may not create an

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actual idol. But what do we do? We create an

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image of God and our own mind. Right, what do

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I I remember I've been saying the quote my entire ministry.

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God created man and his image, and man returned the

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favor we have. We create a God in our own

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and every church, every Christian has the image of God

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in their mind, and God, the image of God, happens

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to do what agree with them about everything? All right?

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When people argue with me, their image of God is

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that God is on their side, and my image of

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God is that God is on my side. So everyone

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has their own image of God. And don't say that

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that's not true in the church. The church is full

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of people with their own God, all claiming to worship

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one God. But we don't worship one God because we've

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all met our own God, and we all just pretend.

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Nobody wants to admit this. Now, look, what's the inevitable

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conclusion of all of that verse twenty four therefore or

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wherefore right, depending on your translation, God gave them up

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to uncleanliness. Now immediately were like, wait, wait, God gave

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us up to uncleanliness. Well, let's look at everything that

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happens here and the lust of their hearts to dishonor

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their bodies among themselves. Now, immediately when we read that

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some people want to immediately go to homosexuality, but that

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would include all sexual sin, Well, are you telling me

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sexual sin? It's not prominent in the church. Now, Again,

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what typically happens in the church, Even statistics prove this.

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Kids raised in the church, right, when they get to

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that teen years, that's where they probably are going to

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start struggling with dishonoring their body, right because they're going

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to possibly be struggling with sexual sin. Right, it's just inevitable, right,

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They're biologically designed to do that. So in many cases,

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what happens they find themselves full of shame, guilt, don't

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know what to do. So in many cases they leave

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the church, right because it's condemnation, condemnation, condemnation, condemnation, condemnation,

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or they've been told a million times that proves that

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they're not saved. Then they may leave the church. Then

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guess what, At some point they come back to the church,

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typically after they are married and have kids, because guess

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what happens when you're married and have kids. There's a

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high probability your sexual sin now has dramatically decreased because

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now you're married. So now you can be like, oh,

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so now I'm godly, and then you can walk around

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and go, oh, those people and those people and those people,

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because now you're old and you go to bed at

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eight o'clock at night, so now you think you're all godly.

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All you did was you now got married so you

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can satisfy a certain physical desire. You go to bed

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at eight o'clock night at night. You're not going to

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parties anymore, and now you think you're better than everyone else.

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when in reality you're no better than you were before

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you left the church. That's what happens because during that

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period of time, it's very difficult not to engage in

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sexual sin. I don't know if that's a shock to anyone,

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but it's very difficult. Even if you're not committing the

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physical act, you're committing it mentally. Now I don't know

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what happens when you get old, but may you may

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not care anymore. But the point is there's a time

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that that's very prevalent, and every pastor knows that the

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young people are struggling with that and what happens in

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many cases guilt, shame, condemnation, and it's just like who

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wants to live through that? In many cases, the kids

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who raised in it loathe it and hate it and

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despise it because all it was was guilt. Guilt, guilt, guilt, guilt.

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the point is what we have to do is the

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old people sitting in the pew need to be like, well,

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you know, I may not be committing that sin, but

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I'm still a But it doesn't go that way, does it?

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the truth of God for the lie and worshiped and

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served the creature rather than the Creator? Now, come on,

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that describes churches all over the place. Do we not

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worship and serve the creation more than the creator? Yes,

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we're idolators. We love our jobs, our houses, our money,

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our retirement, we like our entertainment, we like. Come on

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to say that that's not the case. I don't see

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Christians like. All I do is read and study my

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Bible and listen to sermons. Okay, I even as much

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as I read and study. Guess what when I go

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home today, Guess what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna reunt

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home and I'm gonna start the Red Zone. I started

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watching the NFL games, and then at two o'clock, I'm

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gonna immediately switch to ABC so i can watch the

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Indiana Fever because I've watched every game Caitlyn Clark has

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ever played, and I'm gonna watch her play in the

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WNBA playoffs today because they finally made the playoffs, because

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the Indiana Fever never makes the playoffs, and I'm gonna

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watch that. And then after I watch all of that,

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I'll go back to the Red Zone. And then after that,

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I may watch some independent wrestling tonight, and then I

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may listen to some music. Now, people here and they're like,

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goodlin oh, because just all the only reason I'm on

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Godly is because I'm not watching what you want to

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watch a right, heard the calp. Yeah, which is a

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good sign of ungodliness, right, Okay, all right? The point

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is we don't we all have our things may be

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different than my things. Now, yeah, I may go back

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and turn on the microphone and go live at some

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point in the evening. But that will be more. That's

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more to ease my own conscience than it is about

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me being godly, because I'm like, oh, I gotta measure

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my time. I gotta make sure I spend more time

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reading and studying than I do everything else. That's my lordship,

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just sticking in my brain that I've got. I've got

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to prove it. I gotta do it. I gotta do it.

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I gotta read more, I gotta study more. I gotta

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make sure I do it more than anybody else. That's

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just because of my own psychological need, because of the

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voice that says, oh, you're not being a good Christian.

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You're not being a good Christian. You're not being a

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good Christian. But the reality is I serve the I

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can be sitting on in front of a microphone talk

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for two hours about God, by my brain wants to

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beware somewhere else. So am I really doing anything godly? Yes? No.

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For this reason, God gave them up to bile passions,

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for even their women exchange the natural use, for that

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is against nature. Like also the men leaving their natural

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use of the woman, burdening their lust for one another.

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Men with men committing that is shame, shameful and receiving

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themselves the penalty of the error which was due. Now,

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homosexuality is obviously mentioned there, right, But that would also

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involved all sexual sin, right, because God's natural order would

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be one man, one woman for life and there'd be

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no other sexual activity going on. Yes, so in a

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reality we all you leave the natural use in the

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sense of not doing it the way God designed. This

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also includes homosexuality. I'm not denying it. Homosexuality is a sin,

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just like what fornication, lust, adultery right in fact? Does

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just leave it with homosexuality? Oh no, that's where nobody

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wants to acknowledge this. But what is he going to say?

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What comes next? And even as they did not like

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to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over

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to a debased mind to do those things which you're

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not fitting being filled with all unrighteous Oh no, wait,

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what's the next word? Oh wait to say, that's not

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just how mysexuality is it? What's next? Wickedness? Next?

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Consciousness, maliciousness, envy, murder, strive, deceit, evil mindedness, whispers, backbiters,

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haters of God, violent pride, boasters, and vendors of evil things,

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disobediate to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, onloving, unforgiving, unmerciful ladies and gentlemen.

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That describes every church I've ever been in, and it

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describes me in some way. You say, well, that one

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doesn't You're he covers so many things it's hard not

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to find yourself there. Okay, yes, So then guess what. Who,

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knowing the righteous judgment of God that those who practice

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such things are deserving of death, not only do the same,

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but also approve of those who practice them. Guess what?

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And so guess what? Everyone wants to take that, and

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church after church does it? Oh that death. Homosexuals should

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be put to death. If you're gonna take that, everyone

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who commits any of those should be put to death. Nobody.

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They just want the homosexuals put to death because they

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want homosexuals put to death because they don't like that' sin. Well,

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you would be putting everyone in your congregation death, and

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you would start with whom the pastor now that I

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get what is my theory? That God, because of the fall,

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and because a man's trajectory downward, God gave everyone over

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to their sinful nature and what is in control of

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Christian and non Christian sinful nature? Now, I know every

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church and appling will lose their mind. But saying that,

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but how can I prove that the sinful nature is

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in control? What is the way I prove my argument?

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Can you be holy? Can you be perfect? And if

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you can't, if you can't stop sinning, If you can't

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be perfect, then that means what that something else is

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in control? And what would that be that would be

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in control sinful nature? Therefore, God has given us over

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to the sinful nature. That is true of everything I

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know right now, every Christian online will lose their mind

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at me. It's don't argue with me. Just prove what

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that you can stop sinning. If you can't stop sinning,

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then the thing stopping you, by definition, is in control

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now because of that reality, Remember that's my theory that

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that describes all of us, and that the sinful nature

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is in control and we are all perpetually given over

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to it. And that's going to be the Christian life

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until glorification, and what happens in glorification, the sinful nature

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is gone. Until then, what is the Christian life then

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going to be a life of sin. Now go to

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Romans two to one. Therefore, everybody there, there's the Therefore

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we've been waiting for it, right I spent the last

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thirty something minutes building up to this very important point.

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Right here we go. Therefore, what are we gonna get? Therefore?

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You are inexcusable? Oh man? Now that oh man means

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everyone jew and gentile. Remember there a lot of people

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say that he switches from jude to gentile. Remember we

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talked about all of that. Oh man, whoever you are,

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who judge for you? For in whatever you judge another,

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you condemn yourself. For you who judge practice the same things.

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Everybody see that. What is the inevitable conclusion? Remember the

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Greek word here do a Remember okay, the word here

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has a different emphasis. It's often used to draw a

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more emphatic or summarizing conclusion, sometimes with a sense of inevitability.

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Remember we talked about this Greek word, it's inevitable. What

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is the inevitable conclusion we should get from Romans one

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eighteen to the end of chapter one, Because that says, therefore,

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what should be the conclusion we come to? What's inevitable

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that we can't judge anyone because we're guilty of the

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exact same things. Somehow Christian has completely lost its mind

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when it comes to this. We can't judge anyone. Now

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what a Christian say? Well, we can judge because we

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no longer do those things. You are a stinking liar.

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We do those things. It's inevitable. Does everyone understand that?

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All right? It's this. It's emphatic. This Greek word dua is.

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It's emphatic. It summarizes conclusions. It emphasizes the reason or cause,

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often summarizing a point before moving to the conclusion or result.

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All right, So are you ready to break Romans two

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one down a little bit? All right, because we got

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to cover the text here. Okay, everybody ready? All right?

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Two to one? Romans two one is a pivotal verse

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in Paul's argument in the Letter to the Romans. It

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transitions from the discussion of God's judgment on the gentiles

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in chapter one to our broader application that includes the Jewish,

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say as well. Now, my only argument would be, I

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believe chapter one covers everybody, jew and gentile. But if

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you want to make it focus on the gentile's fine.

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But it covers everybody like one eighteen to the end

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is the inevitable result of its describes all of us

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saved and unsaved, because we've all been given up to

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our sinful nature. And to say that I have not

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been given up to my sinful nature again is a

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lot I know. Let me just state it again. If

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you leave this church today, talk to anyone who goes

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to church, they will say this church is heretical and

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we're false teachers, because they would say we have not

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been given up to our sinful nature. And again, what

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would I ask you to say to them? Stop sinning?

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And if they say, well, I can't, and then you

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can say why not? And then you can say whatever

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stops you from sinning is in control. Right, That's just

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normal logic, right. I know. Logic seems to defy the

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minds of many Christians, but it it's perfect sense, does

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it not? And now that therefore, and that therefore really

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supports my theory, does it not? Because now what is

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he saying, Hey, hey, you can't judge anybody that would

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be speaking specifically to whom. Now in this case, it

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may be specificus speaking to the gentile or to the Jews,

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but it would be speaking to all Christians, because we're

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the ones who judge. Christians constantly judge everything, do we not?

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Our pastime is to judge and condemn people. All right,

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So let's break this down. First, we have the text

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of Romans two one. I'm gonna read from a different translation. Therefore,

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you have no excuse, o man, every one of you

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who judges, for in passing judgment on another, you condemn

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yourself because you, you the judge, practice the very same things.

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All right. So there's the text. We've got it. Now

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let's look at the meaning of Therefore, let's let's just

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do a little work. I've already kind of given you

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an idea. The word therefore connects Romans two to one

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to the eating discussion in Romans I, where Paul outlines

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the sins. Now, this argues, he's pointing out the sins

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of the gentiles. I'm gonna say, he points out the

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sins of humanity and the consequences of their idolatry and

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im morality. I'm gonna say, he points out the sin

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of everyone. You can say it may be gentile focused,

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but even if it's gentile focused, Jews commit those same sins,

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do they not? Everyone does? Everyone? Does, all right. But obviously, therefore,

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in chapter two, verse one right introduces a shift in focus.

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While chapter one addresses the obvious sins of the gentiles,

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chapter two turns the lens on those who might feel

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morally superior. Now, I like the way it stated there.

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Chapter two verse one is like, okay, see all those people.

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Chapter two therefore, okay, look back, see all that sin.

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How do you feel about that sin? Now? Just listen

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to any preachers preach on chapter one one eighteen and

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following right, almost inevitably it becomes a sermon about why

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what is a sermons on Romans one eighteen? Homosexuality? Homosexuality? Homosexuality, homosexuality.

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Almost inevitably, that's all anyone preaches homosexuality. They may mention

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the other sins, But what gets the spotlight homosexuality? Why

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does it get the spotlight? Because the people sitting there

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most likely don't struggle with it, So then we can

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all feel morally superior. So then, therefore, in chapter two

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to one is to immediately shift the focus to you

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who feel morally superior? Right, And I think that that's

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a key element here. All right therefore introduces a shift

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in focus. Chapter one addresses the obvious sins I'm gonna

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say of humanity. Chapter two turns the lens on those

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who might feel morally superior, likely addressing Jewish readers or

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any moralist. Now moralist, to me, moralist is really what

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Christianity has become. Christianity is moralism. It's a system of morality.

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It's no longer what it's supposed to be. Who think

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themselves exempt from God's judgment because they judge others? All right,

467
00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:22.000
so we have the text we have kind of a

468
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meaning of Therefore, now let's look at the idea. You

469
00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:30.200
have no excuse, oh man, every one of you who judges?

470
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:32.640
See that phrase in Romans two. Want everyone see that phrase?

471
00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:35.599
You have no excuse, O man, everybody see that kind

472
00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:40.000
of concept. Paul's statement removes any perceived moral high ground

473
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:43.400
from those who judge others for their sins. The no

474
00:29:43.559 --> 00:29:47.000
excuse phrase echoes Romans one twenty, where Paul states that

475
00:29:47.079 --> 00:29:51.160
humanity is without excuse for failing to recognize God through creation.

476
00:29:51.720 --> 00:29:56.119
The phrase, oh man is a general address, emphasizing that

477
00:29:56.240 --> 00:30:01.000
this principle applies to everyone who judges is whether you

478
00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:05.720
are gentile. It confronts the reader directly making it personal

479
00:30:05.880 --> 00:30:12.000
and universal. So if you judge the therefore now turns

480
00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:15.559
the whole focus to what to you If you are

481
00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:19.279
judging Romans two to one, that therefore is like a

482
00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:22.279
slap in your face. Right. It's almost like Paul walks

483
00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:25.279
up and goes, hey, guys, look at this list of sins.

484
00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:32.160
What do you think about it? And then you're like, oh, horrible, disgusting, vile.

485
00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:35.880
I can't believe what our world is turning into. We

486
00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:38.240
need to vote a Republican and to fix it. We've

487
00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:41.000
got to change it. We need family values. We gotta

488
00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:43.480
get rid of Netflix and Rock and Roll. We've got

489
00:30:43.480 --> 00:30:46.279
to fix it. We gotta bat MTV. Elvis Presley is

490
00:30:46.279 --> 00:30:50.440
the blame all the nonsense Christians have been saying forever, right, okay,

491
00:30:50.599 --> 00:30:52.880
And then what Paul's like, well, thank you for saying

492
00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:55.119
all of that, and then he slaps you right across

493
00:30:55.119 --> 00:30:59.000
the face. Stop judging. You do the same thing. And

494
00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:07.000
you're like, whoa, I do not not me. I'm perfect. No,

495
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:12.440
you're not well. I don't commit homosexuality. That's a sexual sin.

496
00:31:13.079 --> 00:31:14.799
I bet you you've got some sexual sin in your

497
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:22.279
closet somewhere. Now, maybe you've never have, but you've got

498
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:28.599
other sins, right, I mean, considering statistics show that well

499
00:31:28.640 --> 00:31:31.519
over sixty percent of men in churches struggle with pornography.

500
00:31:31.720 --> 00:31:35.759
I don't think we should be judging anybody, Okay, Yeah,

501
00:31:35.839 --> 00:31:37.480
And even if you don't look at pornography, you don't

502
00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:39.880
have to look at pornography to be guilty of adultery.

503
00:31:39.880 --> 00:31:42.480
All you gotta do is just look and then it's

504
00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:45.200
there and empum in your trouble. Even if you don't

505
00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:47.160
even you can be watching a show that's not even

506
00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:53.240
pornography and have wrong thoughts. I know it's a shock

507
00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:59.000
to people, but it can happen. See Romans two one

508
00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:07.599
is like, stop judging. Paul's statement removes any moral high ground,

509
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:12.839
all right. Paul is stating that humanity is without excuse everyone.

510
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:15.119
The phrase O man is a general address, emphasizing that

511
00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:18.279
this principle applies to anyone who judges, whether Jew or gentile.

512
00:32:18.440 --> 00:32:21.400
It confronts the reader directly, making it personal and universal.

513
00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:24.079
It's supposed to be personal. When you read Romans two one,

514
00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:28.359
you got to kind of like, ouch, Paul, no need

515
00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:32.680
to get up in my business. Go focus on all

516
00:32:32.720 --> 00:32:35.960
those mean, bad people. In Romans one, leave me alone.

517
00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:40.880
I'm not like them. Well, you may not be like

518
00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:43.440
them in specific sense, but you're still like them. Because

519
00:32:43.480 --> 00:32:47.279
why whether you're the moral look, listen, you can be

520
00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:50.880
the moral center or the immral center, but you're still

521
00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:53.319
a sinner. And even saying moral and im moral that

522
00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:56.000
way is really ridiculous. But you get the point, right,

523
00:32:56.440 --> 00:32:59.559
because nobody is moral, because we're all sinners. But you

524
00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:02.880
get the eye there is there are acceptable sins and

525
00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:06.119
unacceptable sins within the realm of Christianity. That's just the

526
00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:09.359
way it is. We can look the man who got

527
00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:14.960
removed from ministry this week. He has been committing sins

528
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:19.440
since the day he became a Christian. He committed sins, sins.

529
00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:22.720
Did he get removed from ministry for any of those sins? No?

530
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:27.160
He commits one sin, cut the throat, kick him out?

531
00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:31.480
What about all the other sins? And if you look

532
00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:35.559
at the famous passage, the famous passage, just just really quick,

533
00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:37.839
because I think this is important, go to we know

534
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:42.640
the famous passage about the qualifications for ministry. Hey, let's

535
00:33:42.680 --> 00:33:48.359
go to it one Timothy, right, vere's it two? Timothy first,

536
00:33:48.400 --> 00:33:54.880
Timothy first Timothy. Chapter three. We know this right first Timothy,

537
00:33:54.920 --> 00:33:57.200
chapter three, verse one. This is a faithful saying. If

538
00:33:57.200 --> 00:33:59.839
a man desires the position of a bishop, he desires

539
00:33:59.880 --> 00:34:02.759
a good work. Now, let's just start right there. When

540
00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:04.880
people talk about how do you know you're called to ministry?

541
00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:09.119
You desire the position. It's not some mysterious oh is

542
00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:11.800
God calling me? No, you desire it, you give it.

543
00:34:11.880 --> 00:34:14.679
You have a desire for that work. Okay, it's a desire,

544
00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:17.360
all right, everybody see that? All right? Now, there's going

545
00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:21.400
to give us the requirements. What's requirement Number one? Must

546
00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:24.880
be blameless, and I'll stop right there. Okay. Now, as

547
00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:27.400
soon as we say blameless, there's usually a lot of

548
00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:30.159
argument about what does that mean? Right? What does that mean?

549
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:34.079
What does the word blameless mean? Uh? Does anybody have

550
00:34:34.119 --> 00:34:36.119
access to the Blue Letter Bible? App I says, I

551
00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:38.800
currently don't. What's the Greek word there for blameless? And

552
00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:42.519
what does it mean? Let's just go through this quickly.

553
00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:44.559
This is a slight detour and where we're going. But

554
00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:52.800
you'll get the idea. Blameless is a very from the

555
00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:55.159
way we read it. There's a lot you could do

556
00:34:55.199 --> 00:35:00.119
with that. But okay, okay, if you don't if that's okay.

557
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:02.000
If you have the Bible Dictionary, maybe there may be

558
00:35:02.039 --> 00:35:04.280
an entry for blameless and the Bible Dictionary if you

559
00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:07.639
want to look at that instead. Okay, what does it

560
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:10.440
give us a definition? You don't have to say the

561
00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:14.039
Greek word, I don't have it in front of me. Yeah,

562
00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:28.039
or outline of biblical usage, whatever you have. Irreproachable pastor

563
00:35:28.079 --> 00:35:32.320
has to be irreproachable. Now you know what that ultimately means.

564
00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:37.239
How does that typically play out in the church? Well,

565
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:40.119
immediately you know what you're gonna hear. Well, I'm no

566
00:35:40.280 --> 00:35:45.400
pastor is going to be perfect, but irreproachable. So this

567
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:51.800
will turn into irreproachable on what way external behavior? So

568
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:54.639
in other words, a pastor can't have any external behavior

569
00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:57.559
in which someone could reproach him. Well, I do understand

570
00:35:57.599 --> 00:36:00.880
that desire, but the point is the logical he's still

571
00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:07.920
reproachable internally even if there's no external. In many cases,

572
00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:10.719
the external is still there. We're just like, well, it's

573
00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:13.199
not one of the big sins, so that already that

574
00:36:13.239 --> 00:36:17.480
becomes almost how do you even manage that? Right? And

575
00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:22.119
what can make someone if a pastor demonstrates pride, is

576
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:25.159
that is he now reproachable, all right, I mean he

577
00:36:25.199 --> 00:36:28.320
could show anger. There's a lot of things he could

578
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:31.280
do before we even get to sexual sin. Correct, But

579
00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:36.760
typically blameless only applies to what sexual sin? And in

580
00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:41.239
amazing that this text never mentioned sexual sin. But continue, next,

581
00:36:41.400 --> 00:36:44.960
was it say the husband of one wife? Now, there's

582
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:47.920
lots of disagreements on what this is referring to. Right,

583
00:36:48.840 --> 00:36:51.480
Some believe that this means the man has to be married.

584
00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:55.880
Some believe no, it just means that if he is married,

585
00:36:56.039 --> 00:37:00.840
he cannot commit polygamy. Some will argue that this just

586
00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:05.000
means he that he cannot be married, divorced, and remarried.

587
00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:08.440
So there's not even agreement on exactly what it means.

588
00:37:09.880 --> 00:37:12.360
So now if nobody can agree on that, that already

589
00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:23.559
is a problem. Corrects. What's next? What's next? I heard

590
00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:27.760
someone say it. Some translations have temperate, some have vigilant.

591
00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:31.480
So how does a pastor prove it he's vigilant? What

592
00:37:31.559 --> 00:37:33.840
does it mean to be vigilant? What does he got

593
00:37:33.840 --> 00:37:37.519
to be vigilant of what it has to be doing? Immediately?

594
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:39.639
You could probably find a way where a pastor is

595
00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:41.599
not being vigilant. Have you ever seen a pastor remove

596
00:37:41.639 --> 00:37:47.719
from ministry for not being vigilant. I'll give you an example.

597
00:37:48.039 --> 00:37:52.320
I when I moved to Texas, I visited the church

598
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:56.840
that the Damselers attended at that time. When I visited

599
00:37:56.840 --> 00:38:00.800
their church, I was like, man, this stepinchiko. I was

600
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:03.000
trying to tell everyone about the DaVinci Code because I'm like, man,

601
00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:05.320
people need to be vigilant about this, because this thing

602
00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:08.360
is going to go nuclear. When this book is released,

603
00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:10.199
the whole world's going to talk about it. I thought

604
00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:12.559
possibly they would make a movie. I'm like, we've got

605
00:38:12.599 --> 00:38:15.360
to talk about the da Vinci Code. Right. So I'm

606
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:17.599
at some Christmas thing I have to go to with

607
00:38:18.280 --> 00:38:20.639
at the Dazzler's church. So I don't remember what happened.

608
00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:23.480
People sing songs or something. Right. So, but afterwards I

609
00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:25.360
talked to the pastor and I was like, hey, man,

610
00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:28.320
you what you're playing this church for the da Vinci Code.

611
00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:31.880
He's like what. I'm like, the da Vinci Code, Like

612
00:38:31.960 --> 00:38:36.360
it's gonna be this huge deal. I don't care. Huh,

613
00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:42.320
all right, thanks? What happened? Does anybody remember the da

614
00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:45.480
Vinci Code? So it about a bazillion copies and they

615
00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:53.119
made a movie starring Tom Hanks. Was he vigilant? Is

616
00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:56.119
that what vigilant is? Or am I adding a definition

617
00:38:56.159 --> 00:38:59.280
to vigilant? Right? You see what I'm saying? Like, what

618
00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:02.920
was he gonna get excommunicated or thrown out of ministry

619
00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:05.320
for not being vigilant? Probably half the church didn't even

620
00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:08.039
care if he knew the Divinci Code or not. I

621
00:39:08.199 --> 00:39:10.000
cared because I thought this is going to have a

622
00:39:10.039 --> 00:39:14.320
major impact on what Christianity, because the very beginning of

623
00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:18.039
the Dvinci Code, remember, gives those historical facts. Bobby remembers

624
00:39:18.079 --> 00:39:22.199
because we were at the community center in Tuscola and

625
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:24.679
I came and said, Okay, there's this new book called

626
00:39:24.679 --> 00:39:26.960
the da Vinci Code, and it begins when making these

627
00:39:27.079 --> 00:39:29.639
historical claims, and one of the claims it makes is

628
00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:32.920
about the Council of Nicea. So guess what we did.

629
00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:35.840
We studied the Council of Nicia. And then what did

630
00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:38.239
I tell everyone in the church to do? Go buy

631
00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:42.559
the book? And I told everyone at that point, I

632
00:39:42.599 --> 00:39:50.400
think they will make it a movie. Now. I think

633
00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:54.519
that's being vigilant. I got the vigilant down. I think

634
00:39:54.559 --> 00:40:00.960
everyone could say I've always been vigilant, right, WHOA, Yeah,

635
00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:04.000
I'm the most vigilant pastor in the history of pastors.

636
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:12.440
I'm trash the blameless part, but I got the vigilant

637
00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:17.440
part down right now. Y'all don't know about my ten wives.

638
00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:19.599
But okay, but that's all good, right right now? Okay,

639
00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:23.840
all right, there's there's the blame, there's the temperate or

640
00:40:23.880 --> 00:40:29.280
vigil what's next? Sober? Now? Most translate that's sober minded,

641
00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:35.360
serious minded? Okay, I think I'm pretty serious minded sometimes

642
00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:37.760
maybe okay, maybe I don't know. How do you get

643
00:40:38.119 --> 00:40:41.480
that's kind of hard to measure? Is it? Not? Of

644
00:40:41.519 --> 00:40:44.639
good behavior? That's how mind translates it. What's the next one?

645
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:49.079
How's the King James of good behavior? That's very who

646
00:40:49.119 --> 00:40:52.039
gets to determine the behavior is good or bad? Right now?

647
00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:54.519
If you say, well, God's God determines, well, if God's

648
00:40:54.519 --> 00:40:58.800
determining my behavior, what would be the standard perfection? Guess what?

649
00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:02.639
I'm sorry, guys, I don't meet this requirement, so go

650
00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:05.199
ahead and get rid of me. I don't. I don't

651
00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:10.679
meet the blameless. I don't meet the good behavior now ever,

652
00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:13.480
But see all the literature will try to modify it

653
00:41:13.559 --> 00:41:16.519
and try to like, well, I mean, it just means

654
00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:27.039
and they always basically leave it for something big next hospitable.

655
00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:32.159
I'm probably not that at all, right, Okay, I may

656
00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:36.480
have led that one. That's probably I'm probably thrown out.

657
00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:41.079
What's next app to teach? I'm I'm I've got the

658
00:41:41.119 --> 00:41:44.760
apt to teach down. You just give me a microphone

659
00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:47.119
or people, and I don't even need people. I can

660
00:41:47.199 --> 00:41:49.320
just send an empty room and talk for two hours. Right,

661
00:41:50.679 --> 00:41:55.320
Not given to wine? Do I drink? Okay? Not violent?

662
00:41:55.519 --> 00:41:59.880
Well okay, I'm not beating anyone up yet. Okay. Now,

663
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:03.239
some would argue violent could be a lot of other things, right,

664
00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:08.119
It could be anger, it could be Okay, well, then

665
00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:09.960
you know, maybe you have a temper. I think I've

666
00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:12.360
always handled myself not greedy for money. I think I've

667
00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:14.960
done pretty good there, considering I went how many years

668
00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:17.800
without even taking any money, and then the only money

669
00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:19.840
I've ever gotten since then, it's just been the house payment.

670
00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:24.119
And I've never ever asked for a raise, No, never

671
00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:29.039
asked for anything, right, correct, So I think I could

672
00:42:29.079 --> 00:42:31.920
prove that I'm not greedy. I think maybe I mean,

673
00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:34.199
you could judge me. I mean, I mean, I definitely

674
00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:37.800
like my house payment. I'm not gonna lie right, gentle,

675
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:47.880
I'm not very gentle. Am I not Quarrelsome well, I

676
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:50.000
can definitely get into an argument of fight. So I

677
00:42:50.039 --> 00:42:51.639
don't know if I've always done well there. I think

678
00:42:51.679 --> 00:42:54.239
there's times I know I have it covetous. I don't think.

679
00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:57.679
I don't think I'm too coveteous. There's times there's definitely

680
00:42:57.679 --> 00:43:00.320
things I want, But I think I do pretty good.

681
00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:03.000
I don't come to the church asking to pay for it. Right,

682
00:43:03.960 --> 00:43:06.159
one who rules his own house well having his children

683
00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:10.719
in submission, Okay, Well, I know that all eighteen years

684
00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:13.000
of both of my daughters, there was never any major issues,

685
00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:16.119
never any real rebellion. For the most part, everything was

686
00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:19.559
no There was never any drama, never any problems. Now,

687
00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:23.639
some would argue I disqualified for ministry because of how

688
00:43:23.639 --> 00:43:28.119
my kids turned out after they left home. Some would

689
00:43:28.119 --> 00:43:34.480
say I'm disqualified for ministry. I don't know what to

690
00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:37.199
do about that. But I know for eighteen years, I

691
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:39.360
mean everybody in the church, there was never any real

692
00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:43.079
problems for any of my children. Right. The most thing

693
00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:45.559
that ever happened is Becca was hoping to teach Sunday

694
00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:47.000
school and I removed her because I didn't feel like

695
00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:50.159
she was doing enough preparing. You could say I was

696
00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:51.920
a jerk. That would be me being more of a

697
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:57.159
jerk than on her. Right. Other than that, there's been

698
00:43:57.280 --> 00:43:59.559
very few little There was never any drama in the

699
00:43:59.639 --> 00:44:03.559
church anything like that, right, I think for the most part,

700
00:44:03.920 --> 00:44:07.440
am I saying they were perfect? No? Of course not. Okay,

701
00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:09.840
only their dad is perfect. I mean they take after

702
00:44:09.880 --> 00:44:15.639
their mother, Okay, all right? Not a novice. I don't

703
00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:16.960
think I've been an No, I don't think I've ever

704
00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:18.840
showed up here as a novice. I had more education

705
00:44:18.920 --> 00:44:22.559
than any pastor, and probably in fifty two hundred miles.

706
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:24.639
I don't think there's probably a pastor in Abilene who

707
00:44:24.639 --> 00:44:27.280
has more education than I have, So at least from

708
00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:31.039
an educational standpoint, I wouldn't be a novice, right. What

709
00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:34.239
is that? Less being puffed up with pride? Okay, I

710
00:44:34.679 --> 00:44:41.679
probably have been prideful, so I may be thrown out.

711
00:44:41.760 --> 00:44:44.679
So just going through this list, I already would probably

712
00:44:44.679 --> 00:44:49.400
be thrown out of ministry. But guess what, the only

713
00:44:49.519 --> 00:44:52.119
time any of those issues ever came up was when

714
00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:58.400
when people got ticked off at me. When people were mad,

715
00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:01.000
then they would go to first Timothy and guess what

716
00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:04.360
the they would always go to the hospitable one. That

717
00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:06.199
was the one they want to always go after me

718
00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:10.079
on they wanted to there's something needed to be done

719
00:45:10.119 --> 00:45:12.239
because I went. No matter how many things I showed

720
00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:15.079
up to, right, it doesn't matter. If there was a

721
00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:18.119
pot luck fellowship, I would show up. If the damselers

722
00:45:18.159 --> 00:45:19.840
had something on, I showed up. I think there was

723
00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:22.079
very few things I never The only thing I don't

724
00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:23.840
think I ever showed up for was the camping trip.

725
00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:26.440
I think that was the only thing I think I

726
00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:29.400
showed up to every other thing. But yet, guess what

727
00:45:29.440 --> 00:45:34.480
I was still accused of not being hospitable, and so

728
00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:36.000
that I would be like, well, how many things do

729
00:45:36.039 --> 00:45:38.360
I have to show up with to meet the hospitable?

730
00:45:38.679 --> 00:45:42.280
Nobody could give me a number, but see so, but

731
00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:46.239
guess what. Everyone wanted to judge me on the basis

732
00:45:46.280 --> 00:45:49.199
of those But could I not take the same Bible

733
00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:51.599
and then say, oh, well, if we want to start

734
00:45:51.679 --> 00:45:57.920
judging people, well let's judge. Let's see. You're supposed to

735
00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:00.960
desire the Word of God more than gold and silver

736
00:46:01.519 --> 00:46:05.360
and food. You can't remember the last sermon I preached.

737
00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:09.719
I hand out devotionals. You won't even read them. I

738
00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:12.800
give you books, you won't even study them, and you're

739
00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:16.159
gonna judge me. Well, let's start judging each other. That's

740
00:46:16.239 --> 00:46:18.880
what Christianity can turn into, because I could I not

741
00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:25.519
just start ripping everyone apart. See that's the thing, and

742
00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:28.000
in it weird and first Timothy, first Timothy thy three.

743
00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:32.119
It doesn't even mention the sins that typically get a

744
00:46:32.119 --> 00:46:37.159
pastor wide kicked out. The most bizarre thing is when

745
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:41.880
Mars Hill collapsed in Seattle, Mark Driscoll. Remember, he was

746
00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:45.039
going under church discipline because he got busted for you know,

747
00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:50.840
polagarie polatory because he had written books that he'd taken

748
00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:52.760
from other books, and there was all lots of issues,

749
00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:55.599
and then his yelling and screaming and his cussing from

750
00:46:55.639 --> 00:46:57.280
the pulpit and a lot of things. Now there was

751
00:46:57.280 --> 00:46:59.440
a time his yelling and screaming and cussing from the

752
00:46:59.480 --> 00:47:02.840
pulpit was seen as and then when they got ticked

753
00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:04.440
off at him, then all of a sudden it was

754
00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:06.639
a yeah, it was such kind of messed up, but

755
00:47:06.719 --> 00:47:14.360
it all went down. It got ugly. I think collapsed plagiarism. Okay, yeah,

756
00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:16.000
I think I was seeing it correctly right, So he

757
00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:18.039
got busted for plagiarism and all the issues. You can

758
00:47:18.079 --> 00:47:19.880
listen to the podcast to Rise and Fall of Mars

759
00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:22.360
Hill tells you the whole thing it went down. But

760
00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:24.679
then he was about to get there. He was going

761
00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:27.880
under some disciplinary process with the church. I remember then

762
00:47:27.880 --> 00:47:29.920
he supposedly heard God tell him that it was a

763
00:47:29.960 --> 00:47:32.079
trap and he needed to leave. So then he did

764
00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:35.639
not submit to the disciplinary process. And then the elders

765
00:47:35.679 --> 00:47:39.199
put out a letter. Now what's crazy is the the

766
00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:41.639
letter basically went through some of these things in One

767
00:47:41.679 --> 00:47:45.320
Timothy three has said he was guilty of them. But

768
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:53.639
guess what they said, he's not disqualified from ministry. Now

769
00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:55.559
what would you think if he would have committed a

770
00:47:55.599 --> 00:48:04.159
sexual sin? How does that work? Do you see how

771
00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:07.679
the weird part Christianity does here? So when we go

772
00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:09.960
to First Timothy, what is it trying to say when

773
00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:13.519
you judge, you're probably judging things that you're guilty of.

774
00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:16.480
If you judge pastors. Based off One Timothy chapter three,

775
00:48:16.679 --> 00:48:19.480
the people judging the pastor are probably not only guilty

776
00:48:19.519 --> 00:48:21.719
of the things the First Timothy three, probably guilty of

777
00:48:21.719 --> 00:48:24.400
a million other things in the Bible, So how do

778
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:27.480
we judge one another? Am I saying pastors shouldn't be judged?

779
00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:30.360
I am not saying that. Am I not saying pastors

780
00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:33.119
should not be held to a standard. I'm not saying that.

781
00:48:34.079 --> 00:48:36.960
I am not saying that. I'm just saying, whatever standard

782
00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:39.440
you give a pastor, and whatever standard do you give

783
00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:42.239
the people in the congregation, there's a high probability that

784
00:48:42.280 --> 00:48:46.840
both are going to do wide fail. And what have

785
00:48:46.920 --> 00:48:49.159
I done as a pastor? Remember how a lot of

786
00:48:49.159 --> 00:48:52.920
people wanted me to make a church covenant that listed

787
00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:54.840
all the things you're supposed to be doing and then

788
00:48:54.920 --> 00:48:58.960
have every people sign it. Remember that, and what do

789
00:48:59.039 --> 00:49:03.840
I tell those people? Get out of my face? Because

790
00:49:03.880 --> 00:49:06.559
all that would do is set up a system where

791
00:49:06.599 --> 00:49:09.840
what I would have to start church disciplining people, or

792
00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:13.280
the covenant would not mean anything. What has been my

793
00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:17.400
view about marriage vows? What have been my view on

794
00:49:17.440 --> 00:49:22.440
marriage vowels from the beginning? Don't make them when you

795
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:24.280
get married. It should be do you take this person

796
00:49:24.320 --> 00:49:27.199
to be your husband? Yes? Do you take this person

797
00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:31.079
to be your wife? The end? Why have I said

798
00:49:31.079 --> 00:49:33.719
there should not be vowels? Because if you bring in

799
00:49:33.760 --> 00:49:37.440
the church, the vowels are supposedly made to God and

800
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:41.599
to the congregation, and then the congregation are supposed to

801
00:49:41.599 --> 00:49:45.039
hold those people to those vowels, which then you create

802
00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:47.960
a situation where you require church discipline. And I said,

803
00:49:48.000 --> 00:49:51.360
that's ridiculous. We're not going to do that. I've tried

804
00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:54.480
to do everything in my power to remove anything that

805
00:49:54.480 --> 00:49:58.199
would require church discipline, because I know what's the inevitable

806
00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:01.960
result of it. Someone's going to have to be church disciplined,

807
00:50:02.199 --> 00:50:09.360
because because someone's going to fail, we can't keep anything right. Now,

808
00:50:09.440 --> 00:50:11.280
let's go back. We're going to run out of time here.

809
00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:14.559
Let's go back to Let's go back to a couple

810
00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:16.519
of these things, all right, So we have the phrase

811
00:50:16.719 --> 00:50:18.480
you have no excuse, O man, every one of you

812
00:50:18.480 --> 00:50:21.000
who judges, and what have we just demonstrated, whether it's

813
00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:23.039
a pastor, whether it's someone in the congregation, what are

814
00:50:23.039 --> 00:50:26.159
we all going to do? Sin? But what can we

815
00:50:26.199 --> 00:50:28.400
not do? It's very difficult for us to judge someone

816
00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:33.079
else's sin because we are sinners, all right. For in

817
00:50:33.159 --> 00:50:36.039
passing judgment on another, you condemn yourself. You see that

818
00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:39.880
phrase In Romans two one, Paul argues that when someone

819
00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:43.079
judges others. They are in in fact, condemning themselves because

820
00:50:43.079 --> 00:50:45.719
they are guilty of similar sins. This creates a double

821
00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:48.599
standard when the judge is just as culpable as those

822
00:50:48.679 --> 00:50:53.119
they judge. The statement exposes the hypocrisy of judging others

823
00:50:53.239 --> 00:50:56.480
while ignoring one's own sin, and it emphasizes the universal

824
00:50:56.559 --> 00:50:59.480
nature of sin. No one is exempt from God's judgment

825
00:50:59.480 --> 00:51:04.079
based on their moral or religious status alone. Next phrase,

826
00:51:04.159 --> 00:51:07.320
because you judge, you practice the very same thing, Paul

827
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:10.480
points out the inconsistency in judging others while committing the

828
00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:14.039
same or similar sins. This highlights the pervasive nature of

829
00:51:14.119 --> 00:51:18.320
sin and self deception involved in believing that one can

830
00:51:18.400 --> 00:51:21.840
judge others without being guilty themselves. It is self deception

831
00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:25.159
to think you can judge anyone because you're guilty of

832
00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:29.239
the very same thing. All the best we can do

833
00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:33.079
is what scripture says, that's a sin. But let me

834
00:51:33.119 --> 00:51:40.960
make it very clear, I'm a sinner too, right, that's

835
00:51:41.000 --> 00:51:45.639
the best you can do. If someone is struggling with homosexuality,

836
00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:50.239
Hey man, I don't understand that sin, but I'm a sinner.

837
00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:54.400
I'm not condemning you. Scripture says it's wrong, but scripture

838
00:51:54.400 --> 00:51:56.960
says I'm wrong, so guess what. We're in the same boat.

839
00:51:57.280 --> 00:52:02.519
So let's figure this thing out together. That doesn't sound

840
00:52:02.559 --> 00:52:07.159
like Christianity, though, does it. Christianity like Stone the Heathen

841
00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:12.519
gets some rocks? Right, the very same things refer now,

842
00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:15.039
when it says that you do the very same things,

843
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:17.760
that's probably referring back to Romans chapter one and all

844
00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:20.559
of those things that were listed. Does that make sense?

845
00:52:21.119 --> 00:52:24.400
Including envy, murder, strife, deceit, and malice. This suggests that

846
00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:27.880
even those who consider themselves morally upright are guilty of

847
00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:39.719
those sins in some form. All right, so let's uh,

848
00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:42.199
let's offer some lessons. Let's go through some lessons quickly

849
00:52:42.239 --> 00:52:43.920
because we're going to run out of time and Stacy's

850
00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:46.239
got nine hundred kids back there, and I'll be dead

851
00:52:46.840 --> 00:52:51.480
before I get home. Okay, all right? Everybody ready? All right? Uh?

852
00:52:51.719 --> 00:52:56.039
This speaks of universal accountability before God, everyone without excuse.

853
00:52:56.159 --> 00:52:58.920
Everyone is without excuse before God. Whether you are gentile,

854
00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:02.119
religious or not really religious, Judging others does not exempt

855
00:53:02.199 --> 00:53:05.280
us from God's judgment. We are all accountable before God,

856
00:53:05.519 --> 00:53:08.360
and we're all guilty before God because we all do

857
00:53:08.559 --> 00:53:14.320
what sin. Right. Next, This shows the hypocrisy of judgment.

858
00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:17.159
Those who judge others are often guilty of the same sins,

859
00:53:17.760 --> 00:53:22.719
leading to self condemnation. Moral superiority or religious status status

860
00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:26.159
does not shield anyone from God's judgment. There's no room

861
00:53:26.199 --> 00:53:30.480
for moral superiority within Christianity. Stop acting like we're better

862
00:53:30.519 --> 00:53:35.000
than other people, because we are not. We are guilty.

863
00:53:35.239 --> 00:53:40.440
The Christian life is a life of what sin. The

864
00:53:40.519 --> 00:53:43.559
Christian life is a life of sin. If you say otherwise,

865
00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:47.559
you're lying to yourself. All right, Next, self deception. So

866
00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:49.639
we have we're all accountable before God, and we're all

867
00:53:49.679 --> 00:53:52.519
guilty before God. Next we have the hypocrisy of judgment.

868
00:53:52.559 --> 00:53:55.960
Next we have self deception, the tendency to judge others

869
00:53:55.960 --> 00:53:59.320
while being guilty of similar sins reveal self deception. Sin

870
00:53:59.440 --> 00:54:02.639
is pervasive and everyone is subject to its influence and guilt.

871
00:54:03.079 --> 00:54:07.159
You can't judge anyone else unless you deceive yourself into

872
00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:12.280
thinking you're better and somehow Christianity. Christianity is the drug

873
00:54:13.320 --> 00:54:18.519
of self deception. People talk about there against drugs, ladies

874
00:54:18.559 --> 00:54:23.360
and gentlemen. Christianity is a drug and you you shoot

875
00:54:23.400 --> 00:54:25.039
that thing in your vein and all of a sudden

876
00:54:25.039 --> 00:54:28.519
you think, Oh, I'm better than everyone else, I'm a

877
00:54:28.519 --> 00:54:32.119
new creature, I'm godly. Oh look at all these other centers.

878
00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:34.280
And then when you start feeling a little guilty, you

879
00:54:34.320 --> 00:54:39.840
give yourself another shot. We're just drug addicts promoting self deception.

880
00:54:41.519 --> 00:54:51.119
We're not better than anybody else. Does everybody agree? At

881
00:54:51.199 --> 00:54:55.760
least Bobby agrees? All right? Has everybody got that? All right?

882
00:54:57.000 --> 00:55:03.480
Another thing the condemnation moralism. Basically, this verse critiques the

883
00:55:03.519 --> 00:55:07.480
attitudes of moralism and hypocrisy when people judge others harshly

884
00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:10.000
while failing to recognize their own sins. It is a

885
00:55:10.039 --> 00:55:15.559
powerful reminder that all are equal before God's judgment. And

886
00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:17.960
then what else does this first do? It lays the

887
00:55:18.000 --> 00:55:22.880
foundation for the doctrine of justification, does it not? What

888
00:55:22.920 --> 00:55:27.199
does it say whether that if you look at all

889
00:55:27.199 --> 00:55:30.000
those lists of sins, you can't judge them because you're

890
00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:33.400
guilty of the very same things, So everyone is guilty?

891
00:55:33.519 --> 00:55:37.840
Does that not lay the foundation for justification? Justification is

892
00:55:37.880 --> 00:55:40.079
the idea that I need to be justified by God

893
00:55:40.360 --> 00:55:43.079
because I cannot justify myself in what I do, and

894
00:55:43.119 --> 00:55:45.400
I need to be justified not in what I do

895
00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:48.000
or will do I need to be justified in someone

896
00:55:48.079 --> 00:55:57.960
doing it for me, and that is Jesus Christ. Now

897
00:56:01.000 --> 00:56:06.960
let's read Romans to one. Everybody read Romans to one.

898
00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:08.800
I want you to write this verse down today and

899
00:56:08.840 --> 00:56:11.639
think about it all day. Everybody ready, I'm gonna read

900
00:56:11.639 --> 00:56:15.800
it from the new King James. Therefore, you are inexcusable,

901
00:56:16.199 --> 00:56:20.280
Oh man, whoever you are who judge, for in whatever

902
00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:25.559
you judge another, you condemn yourself, for you who judge

903
00:56:25.840 --> 00:56:34.199
practice the same things. And that all goes back to

904
00:56:34.280 --> 00:56:38.159
Romans one eighteen. That's why my interpretation of Romans one

905
00:56:38.199 --> 00:56:40.519
eighteen to the end is that we've all been given

906
00:56:40.599 --> 00:56:42.719
up to our sinful nature. And since we've all been

907
00:56:42.719 --> 00:56:45.440
given up to our sinful nature, that means it's impossible

908
00:56:45.440 --> 00:56:48.840
for us to judge other people because we are all guilty.

909
00:56:49.039 --> 00:56:57.239
Does that make sense? So what should we do when

910
00:56:57.239 --> 00:57:00.880
we see all these other people sitting falling into Whether

911
00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:05.880
it's Republican politicians, whether it's an anti gay activist who's

912
00:57:05.880 --> 00:57:08.880
in gay porn all those situations, or whether it's a

913
00:57:08.880 --> 00:57:12.400
famous lordship pastor who's now been removed from ministry for

914
00:57:12.480 --> 00:57:16.360
his sin and the whole world's talking about it. It's

915
00:57:16.360 --> 00:57:19.079
been in normal newspapers, forget Christian papers. Has been in

916
00:57:19.119 --> 00:57:20.920
the USA today, it has been all over the place.

917
00:57:21.199 --> 00:57:26.840
Everyone's talking about it. Guess what, you know what your

918
00:57:26.840 --> 00:57:32.480
attitude should be about his sin, as you should focus

919
00:57:32.519 --> 00:57:42.280
on your sin. Whenever I've talked about this a million times,

920
00:57:42.519 --> 00:57:44.800
we talk about as a Christian we are to be humble,

921
00:57:45.000 --> 00:57:48.199
we have humility, and what do I always say humility?

922
00:57:48.239 --> 00:57:50.599
I always define it something along these lines. Remember it's

923
00:57:50.719 --> 00:57:53.840
on the internet. My famous quote about humility, that humility

924
00:57:53.880 --> 00:57:58.880
is the impossible task of being more aware and feel

925
00:57:58.960 --> 00:58:02.639
more guilty about her own sin than anyone else's. I've

926
00:58:02.639 --> 00:58:07.320
been preaching that forever. If you want to truly be humble,

927
00:58:07.719 --> 00:58:10.519
you know your sin. You don't talk about everyone else.

928
00:58:10.639 --> 00:58:12.679
Do we need to know all the details of this

929
00:58:12.760 --> 00:58:16.440
man's sin, No, we don't now if if it was

930
00:58:17.039 --> 00:58:19.800
remember the other I mean this pastor was in Dallas

931
00:58:19.840 --> 00:58:23.440
as well. This summer twenty twenty four is the summer

932
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that all the pastors in Dallas Fort Worth area fell.

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I mean, it was insane what Morris and Dallas remember

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it was some kind of an inappropriate relationship. Come to

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find out it was, you know, sexual relationship with what

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a fourteen year old girl? Twelve year old girl? Okay,

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that's kind of you know, that's illegal. Then Tony Evans

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stepped down. We don't know exactly what he did. Now,

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this pastor, it's been it's been a summer of just

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like like like I've seen quotes like what's going on

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in Dallas? Like you know what? You know what? Nothing's

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going on in Dallas other than these people have been exposed.

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But guess what it's going on everywhere? Because in every church,

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guess who is leading the church sinners? And guess who's

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following sinners? And guess what Christianity is the story of

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sinners being saved, not by becoming not sinners, but being

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saved even while we're sinners, because we are, say, by

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an imputed righteousness that's accredited to my account. That doesn't

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change me. It just declares me to be that which

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I am not. So when it comes to anyone, you, me, whomever,

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it may be, what can we all just acknowledge we're sinners?

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Am I excusing your sin? Are you excusing my sin? No?

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Are we both acknowledging my sin is wrong? Ya? Amen? Right?

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Am I acknowledging your sin is wrong? Amen? So what

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are is our only hope, the finished work of Jesus Christ.

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That's our only hope. That's what we have to point to.

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That's what we have to run to. Right should we

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fight and struggle against sin? Absolutely? And are we glad

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to know that how the story will ultimately end, will

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there will be no more sin nature? But until the

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sin nature is gone, the Christian life is a life

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of sin. I know if you tell anybody it goes

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to any other church that you heard that in church today,

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that will tell you to get out of that church.

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That will say, come to our church and you'll get power.

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You can be perfect? Oh what, Oh you can't be perfect?

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But what kind of Yeah? I don't know whatever the

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nonsense is, but I'm done. I'm sick of all of

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it because I've been a Christian long enough to know

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what that we all sin. I've been I know myself

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long enough. Right even before any specific sin, they're sin.

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And even the pastor who fell before that sin, it's

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been sin, sin, sin, sin, sin, sin, sin, sin. And

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I just don't understand Christianity's mentality that you can commit

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three hundred sins and be okay. But you commit one

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and then we cut your throat. I don't understand that

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we're going to start cutting throats for sin. Then we

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just all should just bring a knife to church because

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we're all done. And I'm not talking about literally cutting

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anyone's throat. That's a metaphor. Okay, someone online will take

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it the wrong way. Okay, it's a metaphor. I'm not

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meaning for any actual physical violence. The point is is

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we would all cut our own throats because we'd all

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be like, well, we're all sinners, and who gets to

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determine which sin is the one. Now, I'm not saying

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that if you commit an illegal act, we just say,

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no big deal. Illegal acts have to be handled legally

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and you can't cover that up. I'm saying any other

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sin has to be dealt with and there's got to

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be a way to deal with it, and Christianity just

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doesn't have a way of dealing with it. It basically

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is like, well, you've committed too bad a sin. You

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just need to go. You just got to go finished,

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You're done, We're finished with you. And this pastor, like

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I said, already being a MacArthur's school, that seminary, they

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just deleted him to go to Warries page. Ways, he

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just doesn't no longer exist, instead of just saying like, hey,

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this man's sin, we're all sinners. We're gonna do everything

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in our power to show mercy and grace without excusing

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and anyone who's been hurt by this sin, we apologize

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and we're going to do everything we can to make

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it right. And we're gonna and we're gonna work together

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because we're all sinners struggling along in the Christian life.

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That would have been a statement you could have put

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there right, but just deleted. It's luck he doesn't exist. Well,

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that's you know. Now, no matter how you write the statement,

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someone's going to criticize it, because that's what Christians do.

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We got to judge people, but we should just be

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are we what we should be grateful for is what

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we're all sinners, and when Christ died for us, that's

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what we should all be grateful for. And when other

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people sin, Let's not worry. Don't worry about who this

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isn't home trying to look it up. Don't. It's not

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about the person. Everybody understand. Don't look it up, don't

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try to get information forget it. What do you need

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to leave here focusing on us Romans two one, we are.

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It's inexcusable, oh man, for you to judge others when

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you do the very same things. Don't judge. All right,

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let's pray, Lord God, we come before you this afternoon. Lord.

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There's one thing everyone in this room can admit. We're

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all guilty. We're all sinners, and our only hope is

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what your son did for us. Apart from him, we

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have no hope. We leave here grateful for his mercy,

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his blood, and hopefully we will leave here more condemned

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by her own judging of other people's sins. And we

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asked this in Jesus name, and God's people said