Jan. 29, 2025

The Vatican and AI

The Vatican and AI

A look at a document published by the Vatican on AI

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A look at a document published by the Vatican on AI

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Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is

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the Theology Central podcast, making Theology Central Good Evening everyone.

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It is Tuesday, January the twenty eighth, twenty twenty five.

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It is currently nine fifty eight pm Central Time, and

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I am coming to you live from the Theology Central

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studio located right here in Applene, Texas. Almost forgot, almost

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forgot what to say. The reason I almost forgot what

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to say is because my mind is a little distracted

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here because this is kind of like all happening in

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real time, and so I don't have everything completely mapped

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out or even really a strategy and exactly the right

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way to approach this. But I feel like if I'm

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going to address it, I need to address it right now.

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Sometimes I believe things are somewhat time sensitive. Sometimes I

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believe they aren't. I know, the reality is, it's not

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really that time sensitive. Here's the thing. The reality is

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people will start talking about this, maybe tomorrow, maybe the

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next day, maybe a week from now. Some Christian podcasters

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will pick it up, some of those who cover the

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news will start talking about it, and it'll start gaining,

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you know, some traction. But I don't like to be

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wait till everyone else talks about it. I prefer to

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talk about it first. So I guess in my mind

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I'm saying, oh, this is time sensitive. I guess in reality,

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I could just wait, let everyone else talk about it,

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then offer my opinion. I mean, do people really care

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that I talk about it first? Probably not, But I

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guess the reason it's time sensitive. If I don't talk

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about this now, then what I'm going to do is

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when I finally lay down to try to get some sleep,

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I'm gonna just be sitting there thinking about, well, I

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could talk about it this way. Well, I could address

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it this way. Well, I could say this, Oh, let

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me look this up. Wait, let me just get up

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and oh, let me let me Oh, I could do this, Oh,

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I could let me okay, let me check this, let

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me ooh what about this? What about this? And the

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next thing you know, it's been an hour, hour and

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a half. I haven't slept because I'm sitting there already

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mapping out what I'm going to do. So now, that

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would probably make the episode better tomorrow, But why not

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just turn on the microphone now and speak about it.

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So That's what I'm going to do. Here is what

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was happening. Okay, I had been reading a comic book.

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It was really good, had a great time. Then I thought,

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maybe I'll listen to a little bit of music late

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evening music listening. Okay, that's always fun. Maybe I will

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do that. And then I saw the news headline. The

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news headline read Vatican warns AI artificial intelligence could undermine

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the very foundations of society, and I'm like, whoa, The

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Vatican is warning that artificial intelligence could under the very

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foundations of society. And I'm like, okay, you've you got

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my attention now. The first reason I got my attention

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is just because I saw the two letters AI artificial intelligence.

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And if you've been paying any attention to this broadcast,

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we've been talking about artificial intelligence. It already feels like

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for a year, but really we've just been spending all

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of twenty twenty five and I've said, it's going to

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really be kind of the focus, right and I'm trying

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to look at how artificial intelligence is going to impact Christianity,

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how it's going to impact theology, Bible study, Bible interpretation, hermeneutics,

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that how it's going to impact that. And you know,

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you already know kind of my hypotheses, which is basically,

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AI makes the church as far as being an institution

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that is supposed to teach the word of God, supposed

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to preach, teach, equip people in the and the teaching

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of God's words, providing in depth teaching of doctrine, theology,

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church history, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. As far

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as the church being an institution where it is supposed

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to preach and teach the word of God, AI makes

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the church absolutely irrelevant because AI can do far better

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than the church ever can, and it's preaching and teaching mission. Now,

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if you are a sacramental church and you offer sacraments,

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then okay, if you decide, well, the church can do

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something AI can't. We can be a place of quote

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unquote community. You can be a place where you can

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make friends and have relationships and hold hands and sing

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Kumbaya or you know, have activities and potlucks, and well,

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then you're right, the AI cannot compete with that. But

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if you believe that the focus of the church is

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teaching preaching, well AI can. Well We've already demonstrated it

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and it outperforms every single time. I mean, we've placed

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AI versus sermons, ANDAI has won every single battle that

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we have placed it in. And I think if we

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were going to continue to do that through twenty twenty five,

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and I think we're going to clearly demonstrate AI it's

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just superior, it's better. And I don't think that I

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don't even think that's debatable anymore. I don't even think

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it's you can really argue. Someone may try to well,

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I prefer well, you may prefer I would rather prefer

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something that does better than maybe something that meets my

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personal preference. Is my own, my own kind of take

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on it, especially when it comes to preaching and teaching.

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So we have been really talking about AIAIAI. Now this

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headline seems to focus on what the Vatican is saying,

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how AI could undermine the foundations of society. Now, what

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are those foundations of society? Doesn't believe it can undermine.

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If you say the Church is one of the foundations

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of society, then you would be saying AI is going

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to undermine the Church. I don't think the Vatican is

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saying that. So we'll have to try to find out

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exactly what we saying. But it caught my attention, so immediately,

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of course, I clicked on the news article and it

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took me to Barons dot com. Barons dot com. This

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was published January twenty eighth, twenty twenty five, at seven

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nineteen a m. Eastern Standard time. Now, on one hand,

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I'm a little mad at myself for kind of kicking

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myself because why didn't I see this this morning? Well,

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because I was doing other things this morning that you know,

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really had no significance or important. It was more just

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I was doing things for fun, as staid of this,

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And I'm like, man, how did I miss this? Okay,

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So here is the headline, Vatican warrens AI could undermine

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foundations of society. Okay, so this really, I mean that's

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a Now is that the headline? Is the headline being hyperbolic?

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Is the headline? Or is the Vatican really like really

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concerned about it? Now at this point, now this is

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my way my mind was thinking. The headline caught my

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attention mainly because I had AI. While I've been talking

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about AI. I'm like, okay, that's good. But I just

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thought maybe the AI just or the AI Vatican just

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kind of released a statement. It was nothing of any

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real significance. So I thought, okay, i'll look at the

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article I'm interested, and maybe we'll talk about it. But

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I still wasn't necessarily like I need to turn on

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the microphone right then, but until I read this. The

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Vatican published a new text on artificial intelligence Tuesday, and

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I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait, they published a text.

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I'm like, I've got to look this up. So I

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started searching, found myself to the Vatican website, and I

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have the entire document here. I believe I transferred it

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over into a PDF file. I can't remember exactly how

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many pages I've got the outline here and everything about it.

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But we'll talk about the document itself. We'll talk about

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the document itself. Let's go back to the news article,

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because I'll show you what the news article leaves out,

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and then I'm going to try to fill in a

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couple of things. All right, So here is the news

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article again, published this morning. The Vatican published a new

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text on artificial intelligence Tuesday, warning that the tool AI

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artificial intelligence could destroy the trust on which societies are

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built while humans become cogs in a machine. WHOA, okay,

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the Vatican, I mean that sounds hyperbolic to me, all right,

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because first, AI could destroy the trust in which societies

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are built. Okay, I'm nate, you call me. You can

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say that I'm jaded, you can say that I'm cynical,

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you can say that I'm negative, and a lot of

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people would because you hear a lot of my cynicism

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and how cynical I am, and a lot of the

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broadcast I do, but I am, and a lot of

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it is based off a phiological understanding of something, and

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that theological understanding is that the human heart is desperately

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wicked and deceitful above all things. Well, if the human

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heart is deceitful above all things, why did we ever

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think society was built on trust? Who should you trust?

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I don't trust me, I don't trust you. You shouldn't

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trust anyone, especially You're It's funny because I think sometimes

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as Christians, we believe humans are born sinful. The heart

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is desperately wicked, it is deceitful above all things. But

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of course, and the Christian way of thinking, as soon

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as someone becomes a Christian, well that's no longer true,

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and of course that's all goes away, which I think

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is a fraudulent and horrible theology, because we see in

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two thousand years of church history, our hearts are still wicked,

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still deceitful, And that reality proves itself Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

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It proves itself in the church, it proves itself outside

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the church. So okay, but they're cold blaming AI now again,

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I would say this is what I would say. See

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if I was writing this, I would say what I

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would warn That humans could destroy the trust and which

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societies are built. I wouldn't say AI could destroy the trust.

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Humans could destroy the trust in which society built. While

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humans become cogs in a machine, I think in some

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ways we're already cogs in a machine. And the political

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machine or the economic machine, we're we're we we we

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we find ourselves as cogs just making a business continue

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to operate, a corporation to continue to operate, a political

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system to continue to operate. I think we're already cogs

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in the machine. Dare I say religious institutions, we're just

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cogs in the machine. We need that. They need the numbers,

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they need the attendance, they need the money to keep

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the machine. I think we're always cogs in the machine.

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I know, I'm very jaded. Again, everyone AI is going

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to cause it. No, we're gonna cause it. We people

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may use AI to bring this about, but I think

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we've already been undermining the trust in the trust in

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which societies have built. Humans have been doing that even

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way before AI. That's just my assessment here. Now. The

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next paragraph says Pope Francis has been has on a

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regular basis, been a victim of fake news and doctored photographs. Well,

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you know why he's been a victim of fake news

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and doctored photographs because of human beings who create it

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and share it, and people who don't bother to care

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to pursue truth, to pursue verification, to pursue evidence. They

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just buy it and then they share it on social media.

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Christians have been sharing falsover again. I've told the story

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a million times. I moved from Nebraska back to Texas

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because the military moves me here. We go visit a

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church on a Sunday night out in the middle of nowhere,

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West Texas. At the end of the sermon, the pastor says,

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there's an atheist woman and she's trying to remove Christian

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broadcasting from the television. We have to stop it. So

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we have a petition here that we're going to send

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to the federal government to tell them not to remove

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Christian broadcasting from television networks. And everybody was like, oh, no,

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they go sign it. I'm sitting there going it's fake.

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It's fake, it's not real. And of course guess what

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they signed it. They sent it off to the federal government.

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I don't know if it was a week later, two

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weeks later, four weeks later, I don't know when it was.

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It was Focus on the Family, I believe on their

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radio programs, like, guys, it's a hoax. It's not true.

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The atheist woman they're talking about is dead. She's not

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doing this. The federal government is asking you to stop

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sending your petitions. Did Christians bother to get the information?

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Was it AI's fault? It was human's fault. And I've

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how many times the Great Satanic Scare of the eighties,

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way before AI was running around, Oh there's Satanic cults

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out there, it's gonna kidnap your children all of the

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I've seen it over and over and over. Humans lie,

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Humans make up conspiracy theories, humans spread them. For I

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trust AI before I trust people. Now you can say,

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but people could use AI, Yes they could. I understand that,

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but it will still at the core the problem will

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be us. AI will just be a tool that we use. Right, So,

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Pope Francis has been a victim of fake news. Doctor

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to manipulate minds. AI could be misused to manipulate minds.

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But who would be the doing the manipulating of minds?

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Human beings using AI? The problem is the human race. Okay,

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that's the problem. The Vatican text elaborates on his thinking.

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I quote, AI generated fake media can gradually undermine the

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foundations of society end quote this read This is from

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the text written by two Vatican departments and approved by

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the eighty eight year old pontiff, quoting again, as deep

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fakes cause people to question everything. You should have already

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been questioning everything way before DEEP appeared, and AI generated

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false content erodes trust and what they see and hear.

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Polarization and conflict will only grow, the document says again

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another quote, such widespread deception is no trivial matter. It

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strikes at the core of humanity, dismantling the foundation of

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trust in which societies are built. So it sounds like

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that at least the news article is focusing on the

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fact that the document is talking about deep fakes, how

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the how the tool could be misused, and I'm all fought.

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I got no problem saying, hey, guys, here's this tool.

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It can be misused. And you know what, go back

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to the beginning of the Internet. Great tool. We can

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communicate with one another, we can share information. And what

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did human beings decide to use the internet for? How

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much misinformation is shared via the Internet. It's human beings.

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We're the We're the problem. Okay, I don't know why

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we can't acknowledge that. The Vatican release the text three

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weeks after tech giant Meta, which owns Facebook, announced it

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was ending its third party fact checking program and the

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United States and adopting a crowdsource model to police misinformation,

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similar to that at Elon Musk owned x. Now, a

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lot of these social media companies are getting ready of

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the getting rid of the fact checkers. Now, what's bizarre

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is many conservatives, many Christians are like, that's right, we

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don't want any fact checking. We don't want it. We

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want to be able to say whatever we want. We

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don't want anyone to delete our posts because it's fraudulent

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and misinformation. I find out bizarre that Christians are the

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ones who are so celebrating it now. At the same time,

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I do understand. You know, you could then argue, but

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who are the fact checkers? Who are fact checking the

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fact checkers? But the problem is we have such a

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in our society. Everyone thinks they're an expert. Everyone thinks

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they know everything, and if they disagree with anyone, if

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someone puts forth an idea or stats or facts that

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go against their theory, they will just label that misinformation

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or fake news, and so then everyone thinks they're an

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expert and it just creates chaos. But okay, you can

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argue whether we should have fact checkers don't have fact checkers.

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As Christians, we should be the fact checkers because we

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should We want to put away lying and we want

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to speak the truth and guess what that means, even

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if the truth goes against what we want or what

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we think or what we feel, we should be the

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ones embracing it. But okay, that gets into a whole

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different discussion. The news article continues, misinformation, especially through AI

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controlled or influenced media, can spread unintentionally, fueling political polarization

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and social unrest. The Vatican Tech said it warned of

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a shadow of evil looming over the tool, and said

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the concentration of the power over mainstream AI applications and

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the hands of a few powerful companies raised significant ethical concerns. Now,

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you could argue in a minute, a few companies are

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going to have the hand on this, So I understand,

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But just remember, the issue is that the artificial intelligence.

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The issue is the people. It's the people that's the issue.

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Francis has acknowledged. Pope Francis, who is being referred to here,

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has acknowledged what he has called the immense potential of

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AI and the text sites, medical applications, climate related challenges,

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and education as areas in which it could be invaluable. Now,

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I do appreciate that at least the Vatican acknowledges all

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the things AI can do, all the positives it can do.

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I do appreciate that. The article goes on to say,

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but it could also de skilled workers, subject them to

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automated surveillance, and regulate them to rigid and repetitive task

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and risk and risk being used to replace human workers

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rather than complement them. Now I understand that that's the

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AI is going to replace us. AI is going to

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replace us. Just note that whenever a new technology emerges,

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there's always the potential someone is going to be replaced

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because that technology can do what used to It used

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to take three people to do this, or five people

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to do this. Now it only takes one person or

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two people. That's always been the case. Whenever there's an

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advancement in any technological advancement, right, we can do we

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can create an assembly line where we can do this.

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It used to take individuals. Now now machines can do

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part of the work and we just need humans to

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kind of guide this or check this or do It's

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always the case. It's not a oh, AI is gonna

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replace us. We've been saying that about every form of

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technology that ever comes along. What happens is just people

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are gonna have to learn new skills to get new

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jobs that are gonna be more in line that will

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work around with and through or around around and with

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artificial intelligence. That's just the way it's going to happen.

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I mean, look a, I said this all year. I've

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been saying it all year. AI is not going away.

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This is not some fad. It's going to systematically change

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society as we know it. You're either gonna wake up

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and realize that. Are you gonna wake up when now

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you're gonna be so far left behind you're not gonna

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even know what happened? Okay, It's like someone waking up

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one day going what happened my am radio? I'm barely

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getting any station because no one uses it anymore except

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for a few talk shows. Okay, that's it, all right,

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come on, we moved on. You get the idea, all right.

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It goes on to say AI cannot be a substitute

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for human relationships, all right, particularly in medicine where at

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risk worsening the loneliness that often accompanies illness. It said, so, hey,

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AI cannot And I think that's really the takeaway. AI

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cannot be a substitute for human relationships. Now you may

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want to write that phrase down. AI cannot be a

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substitute for human relationships. Ladies and gentlemen. You want to

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know that all the conferences that are going to be

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happening over the next year, two years about how to

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grow your church. It's going to be the church is

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a place of human connection. The church is a place

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of human relationships. Don't do your life alone. You need people,

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You need a support system. Church is going to focus

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on being a social club. You think I'm kidding. It's

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going to go there because preachers, Oh, you're gonna be

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preaching on what Well, I'm sorry, I just asked AI,

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and it gave me a fifty time This sermons one

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hundred times better than whatever you just gave me. I

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had to spend forty five minutes listening to you. This

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gave me the entire thing in five minutes or five seconds,

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and it's a million times better than what you just

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did to the text. Now, it may take a wall

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for people to get there, but the younger generation is

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gonna get there and realize, oh a sermon, Well, AI

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can give me whatever I need on any scripture that

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I want, But what can it not give you human relationships?

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The church is going to realize that's its life. That's

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gonna be It's survival is you come here to be

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with people. You come here and we're gonna we're gonna

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frame it and like, you can't do your Christian life alone.

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There's no loan ranger. Christians. You need people. You need

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people that we're gonna sell the need for people. The

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next sentence and using it uh to to you know,

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watch people, to survelliance, to self surveillance people. It will

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be aimed at exploiting, restricting others freedom or benefiting few

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at the expense of the many is unjustifiable. So if

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this turns into a system where you're watching people and

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checking on people, and AIS used that way, they said,

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that's gonna be a bad thing. But again, even before

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artificial intelligence, you know things that are watching you, things

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that are tracking you, things that are controlling. First, you've

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got cameras and all over major cities, and I always

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people like they're watching me, they're watching You've got a

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cell phone in your hand. What what in the world

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would Okay, you're already in a sense tracked. Okay, So

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I I don't know why artificial art or artificial intelligence

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will just be better at it all right. Uh, the

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dangers of lethal atimeonomous weapons demand serious attention, it said,

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recalling that Francis has urged a prohibition on their use. Hey,

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what could happen is now you could have AI that

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could be basically be an autonomous weapon, don't need humans

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to do it the AI, and so you are going

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to have AI robots fighting each other in future wars.

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I know, is that a good thing or a bad

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thing may eliminate the death of human soldiers. But then yeah,

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we could get into I mean, it raises lots of

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ethical questions about the future, and then it goes the

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last sentence. The atrocities committed throughout history are enough to

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raise deep concerns about the potential abuses of AI. But

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let me make it very clear who committed those atrocities

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throughout history without the use of AI. Human beings. So well,

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human beings use AI to commit atrocities, Yes, But the

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problem is not artificial intelligence. The problem is people. People

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are the problem. Look, that's always the issue. That's where

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all problems start. Now, you could argue, well, AI gives

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them greater tools. It does, now, but how much do

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you want to regulate it? What do you do? And

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even if you regulate it, you're gonna stop it. I

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kind of want it. Yeah, you gonna get into all

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kinds of questions there. Now, that's the entire news article.

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Did you see what was missing? No link to the

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actual text, no name of the actual text. They don't

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give you anything. So I'm like, well for crying out loud,

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come on, who's journalism today? I mean, I thought we

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learn in journalism like who, what, where? Where? And how like?

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You don't give the name of the document. You don't

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give a link to the document. You supposedly have quotes

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to the document, but you don't give me a link

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to the document so that I can check to see

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if I can find said quotes and the document. You

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don't give me anything. And it's like, that's the problem

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with journalism. Okay. So I had to go do a

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little bit of searching and I looked and I looked

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and found the document. The document in Latin is I

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think it would be stated like this, Atiqua at Nova.

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Attiqua at Nova would be the I think Antiqua. Yeah,

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Antiqua Atiqua at Nova. My Latin is not great. I

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took Latin when I was pursuing a degree in Catholic theology,

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but I took it just to pass the class. Right,

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Antiqua at Nova. But that's West Texas accent on Latin.

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All right, that's the name of the document, Antiqua at Nova.

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Now you may say, well, what in the world is that?

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What does that mean? Well, it means note on the

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relationship between artificial intelligence and human intelligence. All right, Atiqua

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at nova Note on the relationship between Artificial Intelligence and

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human and eligence. You can find this at the Vatican

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website Vatican dot Va. Look for Antiqua et nova. It's

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a document that was released by the Vatican and you

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can I and what I'm going to do is I'm

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going to attach the PDF file to this episode so

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that you can read it for yourself. That's what you

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always do. Listen. This is just a rule of thumb.

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I don't care if it's a government bill that's being

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put forth for vote, if it's a House resolution, if

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it's if it's Obamacare. I remember, I got so sick

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and tired of hearing Christian podcasts say in Obamacare, they're

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going to do this, and they're going to put a

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microchip in you, and they're gonna do this, and they're

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gonna kill you, and they're gonna put you on a

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FEMA care Lie, lie, lies, lies, lies. I mean, don't

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we made it through the entire Obama administration. All the

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things Christians said were going to happen did not happen.

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And it was so irritating because when the Obama healthcare

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plan was kind of being released, I remember me and

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the doctors we printed the entire thing out. It was

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like it was like five hundred pages, and we said

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we used our lunch breaks for I don't know a

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week or two going through the pages going well, what

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about this, Well what about this, and what about this?

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And what about this? And it's like, Okay, the doctors

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I worked with atheist agnostics, they're going through the document,

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have giving me real information about what's in it, what's

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not in it. We're discussing it. And then I would

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go home, get on Facebook or wherever, and then here Christians, Oh,

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it's got the mark of the beast. It's gonna do this.

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They're gonna kill you. They're gonna do this. They're gonna

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and it's like, for crying out loud, I'm gonna go

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hang out with the atheist. So whenever there's a document,

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do yourself a favor. Don't comment until you read the document. Okay,

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I have the document right here, So what I'm going

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to do is I'm going to attach the PDF file

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so that you can read it, which fits perfectly with

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our discussion about artificial intelligence this year, and the A

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and the Vatican has given us an entire doc again

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in English. It's entitled Note on the Relationship between Artificial

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Intelligence and Human Intelligence? Do you want to hear the introduction?

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Here's the introduction? Are you ready with wisdom both ancient

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and new? With wisdom both ancient and new? Open parentheses

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Matthew thirteen fifty two, Close parentheses. Matthew thirteen fifty two

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reads like this, then said he unto them, This is

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Jesus speaking. Therefore, every scribe which is instructed onto the

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Kingdom of Heaven is lack unto a man, that is

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an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure things

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new and old, brings forth things new and old. All right,

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go back with wisdom both ancient and new. So the

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document's going to begin with bringing this idea of new

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wisdom and old wisdom. We are called. We are called

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to reflect on the current challenges and opportunities posed by

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scientific technological advancements, particular by the recent development of artificial intelligence.

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So the Vatican is saying that what we need to

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think about is utilizing wisdom from of old ancient wisdom

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and new wisdom. Using wisdom that we need to reflect.

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You and I all right, as Christians now or as Catholics,

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but we'll apply it to us. And I think I

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think we can just say, do we agree with this

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at least hypotheses? Do you agree that as Christians we

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should reflect on current challenges and opportunities posed by scientific

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and technological advancement advancements, particularly by the recent development of

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artificial intelligence. I think as Christians we should consider all

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their dangers, risk, how it will change. We need to

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consider AI. That's what I've been saying all year. I

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was saying it at the end of last year. We

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need to start thinking about artificial intelligence. It's going to

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change everything everyone. We need to consider what it can do,

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what it can do, what it can do better, what

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it can't do better, and then what are the ramifications

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of that. So I'm in a complete agreement with this idea.

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The document from the Vatican released today goes on to

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say the Christian tradition regards the gift of intelligence as

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an essential aspect of how humans are created in the

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image of God Genesis one twenty seven, starting from an

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integral vision of the human person and the biblical calling

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to till and keep the earth Genesis two fifteen. The

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Church emphasizes that this gift of intelligence should be express

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through the responsible use of reason and technical abilities, and

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the stewardship of the created world. So, in other words,

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it's saying that intelligence is this amazing thing that we've

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been given and we should use it and use it

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in a correct way for good. All right, Okay, now

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that comes down to then we could then circle this

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around and bring this back to what I've been saying.

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How is the church going to use artificial intelligence? How

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do we use it? I mean to me, the church

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is going to really fall into the role of teaching

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people how to use it philologically and biblically. And then

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once we teach everyone how to use it, then we're

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no longer needed. But yeah, how do we use it?

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People are going to have to be instructed in how

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to use it and use it correctly. I do strongly

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believe that paragraph two, this is all from the introduction,

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The Church encourages the advancement of science, technology, the arts,

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and other forms of human endeavor, viewing them as part

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of a collaboration of man and women with God and

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perfecting the visible creation. Now it quotes from an apocryphal book,

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I think Syrac as Syrac affirms God gave skill to

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human beings that he might be glorified in his marvelous works.

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Then it goes on, human abilities and creativity come from

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God and when used rightly, glorified God by reflecting His

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wisdom and goodness and light of this, when we ask

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ourselves what it means to be human, we cannot exclude

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a consideration of our scientific and technological abilities. So technical

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technological abilities, science, that's still a part of being human.

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How does it work together, how does it fit together?

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And how do we use it ultimately for the glory

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of Godden for the good of others? Okay, basic kind

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of concept. Now it goes on to say it is

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within this perspective that the present note note on the

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relationship between Artificial intelligence and artificial intelligence and human intelligence

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addresses the anthropological and ethical challenges raised by a I.

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Issues that are particularly significant as the one of goals

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of this technology is to imitate the human intelligent that

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designed it, so it says that, Hey, one of the

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goals of artificial intelligence is to ultimately imitate the intelligence

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that created it, which would be us. Right now, Again,

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from a thiological perspective, if artificial intelligence can imitate human intelligence,

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but it can imitate the intelligence without the corruption of

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the sinful nature, then from a philological perspective, and intelligence

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that does not have the corruption of human sinfulness of depravity,

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that intelligence would be superior to human intelligence because human

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intelligence is corrupted by sinful nature. I'm just looking at

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it from a purely theological perspective. Now, the issue is

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can it imitate human intelligence without the corruption of human intelligence? Oh,

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that gets into some serious philosophical and theological issues, which

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I know is the perfect thing for you to go

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to bed to go to bed listening to. But it's

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something we have to add that. I think that's an

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important question. If you want to write something down to

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have a deep conversation about tomorrow, or if you're laying

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in bed listening to this with your husband or with

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your wife, you can you know when it's over, you

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can say, so, do you think artificial intelligence can imitate

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human intelligence without the corruption of human depravity? And if

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it can imitate human intelligence without the corruption of human depravity?

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Does that not then make its intelligence superior to man?

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Now we've already noted and what we I don't know

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if you've been paying attention all of the things we've

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been doing with artificial intelligence. I know it's not getting

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a lot of attraction, and most people are not paying

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any attention to what I'm doing. And that's okay, don't

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pay attention. A year from now, two years from now,

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you can be like, why was no one talking about this?

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I was talking about it, and you can come back

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and go, well, maybe we should have listened. Someone needs

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to pay attention to what I'm trying to tell people.

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It's important. But here's the thing, what have we already seen.

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AI can can immediately show us how humans are flawed

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in their hermeneutical approach, how they do is of Jesus

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instead of exit Jesus, even though when they're claiming it,

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how their sermons have logical fallacies factual fallacies. AI can

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already do all of that. That's already in some ways,

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AI is already critiquing human intelligence. So if AI can

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already critique human intelligence, and if AI can imitate that

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human intelligence and be superior than human intelligence. And then

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you add to it, it doesn't have the corruption of

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human intelligence because human intelligence is corrupted by art depravity.

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I mean, come on now, from just if you just

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take your theology and go follow it logically, then AI

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is going to be superior. Right. Well, you can have

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that wonderful conversation as you're laying in bed. You can

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see if it leads to a fight, and you know

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somebody wants to get divorced tomorrow, don't blame me all

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right now the introduction continues. For instance, unlike many other

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human creations, AI can be trained on the results of

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human creativity and then generate new artifacts with a level

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of speed and skill that rivals or surpasses what humans

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can do. Absolutely right, when it comes to theology, if

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I want AI, give me a chapter summary method, Bible stuff,

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give me a Bible study method. Using the chapter summary

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method on Matthew chapter thirteen, AI can produce that in

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about five seconds. It would take me how many verses

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in Matthew thirteen? See I would have to live fifty

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eight oh man, that could take me. That could take

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me a long time to do all the steps of

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chapter summary method, AI can do it in five seconds.

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If I want an in depth exegetical study of Matthew thirteen,

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verse by verse study of Matthew thirteen, it could break

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it down and give it to me in five seconds.

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It would take me probably months to put together. It

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could give me an observational outline of Matthew thirteen in seconds.

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It would take me a week to put it together.

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So at least it's acknowledging that it can already outperform

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us in many cases. It says AI can be trained

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on the results of human creativity and produce tech and

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then generate new artifacts with a level of speed and

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skill that often rivals or surpasses what humans can do,

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such as producing text or images indistinguishable indistinguishable from human compositions.

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This raises critical concerns about AI's potential role and the

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growing crisis of truth and the public form. Now again,

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I get tired of the complaining about the growing crisis

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of truth in the public form. The growing crisis of

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truth is in the church, where Christians lie, spread misinformation,

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false information, buy into conspiracy theories, and they never stink

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stop even when they are confronted and proven wrong. And

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I saw this way back in the early days of Facebook,

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where I felt like I spent most of my life

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calling out Christians like that's not true, that's not true,

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that's fargilant information. That's not true, that's not true, that's

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not true, that's stop listening to Alex Jones. Okay, we

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saw this during COVID. All right, I can tell you

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things I heard on Christian podcasts utterly insanity. The COVID

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vaccine was putting you know my you know, basically microbots

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into our bodies, right, and that it would get into

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our blood streams. We'd have these nanobots, now, nanobots put

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into our bloodstream right through the COVID vaccine, and then

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when five G was turned on, then nanobots would then

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take us over, destroy our free will, and then make

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us ready to submit to the Antichrist. I'm like, you've

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got this is this is what Christians are saying. But hey, hey,

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but there's a there's a crisis of truth in the

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public form. Hey, we judgment became at the House of

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the Lord. How about all the nons? How many times

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we've listened to sermons in review. I'm like, that's just fraud,

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that's a straight up lie. That's just not true, that

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just isn't true. And then we go and verify and

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it's not true. And the sermons are nobody. Nobody's gonna

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say a word about them, because you know, they just

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say Jesus three times, and I guess all the lies

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and the sermon are okay. Moreover, this technology is designed

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to learn and make certain choices autonomously, adapting to new situations,

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providing solutions not foreseen by its programmers, and thus it

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raises fundamental questions about ethical responsibility and human safety, with

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broader implications for society as a whole. This new situation

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has prompted many people to reflect on what it means

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to be human and the role of humanity in the world.

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Now we I'll stop right there because I've already gone longer.

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I wanted to be done at the bottom of the hour.

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I've gone nine minutes over, but because i just wanted

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to introduce this to you. All right, So what is

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going on? We've been talking about artificial intelligence all year

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and we're going to continue to do so. I think

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it's one of the most important things every church, every

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Christian needs to be discussing. It's going to absolutely fundamentally

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change everything, not only in society, within the church. The

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church doesn't realize it yet. The church is so blind

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to what's happening right now. There are those who are

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addressing it, but at large, people don't realize don't that.

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I don't think they understand yet. So the Vatican today

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put out a document Antiqua at Nova, that means note

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on the relationship between artificial intelligence and human intelligence. I've

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read three paragraphs of the introduction. There's a lot of

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you know how many total paragraphs there are in this document.

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There are one hundred and seventeen paragraphs in this document,

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all right, one hundred and seventeen. You need to read

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all of them and see what they are having to say.

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We will, we'll try to kind of do an overview

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in a summary and an outline and a critique of

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the document. We'll try to do that a little bit

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more tomorrow. But what I'm going to do now is

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I'm going to attach as soon as I upload this episode.

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Now for those who listen to me on Pandora, Spotify,

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you to all the other places people listen to us on,

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you'll need to go to. You'll either need to download

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the Sermons two point oh app Sermons two point oh.

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Once you download it, look for Theology Central, look for

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this the Vatican and AI and you'll see the attached

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pdf file. Or you can just download the Church one

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app Church O n E. That's Church O n E.

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Download the Church one app. Search for Theology Central basically

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turns the Church one app into the Theology Central app.

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Then you can well you'll see all of our content.

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Everything's broken down into series. You can listen to me

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when I'm live, and you get notifications whenever I go

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live or do anything else or send out a notice

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or anything. So the Church one app is a great

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way to be able to get the PDF file. So,

698
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or you can go to the Vatican and you can

699
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look for Antiqua at Nova if I'm saying that correctly,

700
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and you can read it for yourself. All right, there

701
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we have it now. I guess we'll end with this question.

702
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If artificial intelligence is design to basically replicate, to be

703
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to basically be like human intelligence, but maybe even trying

704
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to be an improvement upon human intelligence. If AI can

705
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basically be just like human intelligence, but it can do

706
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so without the corruption of human nature, does that not

707
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in the make artificial intelligence superior to man's intelligence. From

708
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a philological perspective, human intelligence has this and has this, Yeah,

709
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and all the positives things you say about human intelligence

710
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that AI intelligence may not have. I can also say,

711
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but it has one big problem depravity. It's corrupted. So

712
00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:27.920
but then does that corruption carry over to artificial intelligence,

713
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which is in a sense mimicking being? Like, what is

714
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the word the what is the term that AI that

715
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the Vatican use to describe it? It kind of hang on.

716
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It says here that the goal of the technology is

717
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to imitate the human intelligence that designed it. If artificial

718
00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:54.239
intelligence imitates human intelligence, but it can imitate it without

719
00:45:54.280 --> 00:45:57.960
the corruption of human intelligence, then does that not make

720
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artificial intelligence superior from a purely thilological perspective? And if

721
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it makes it superior, what are the implications of that?

722
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I don't have it all figured out, but I wanted

723
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to bring this to your attention before everyone else starts

724
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talking about it. All right, all right, thanks for listening, everyone,

725
00:46:20.719 --> 00:46:23.039
have a great evening. I've given you some very important

726
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things to discuss. We'll be talking about this more, all right,

727
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And I will upload As soon as I upload this,

728
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I will try to attach the pdfile. If for some

729
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reason it doesn't work, well, then it won't be there,

730
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but I'm hoping it will all right. Thanks for listening everyone,

731
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have a great night. God bless