Nov. 13, 2024
The Exorcist Files
For the last several years, the Catholic Church has noted an alarming increase in demonic possessions.
For the last several years, the Catholic Church has noted an alarming increase in demonic possessions.
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Looking at our world from a theological perspective.
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This is the Theology Central podcast, making Theology Central.
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Before I give my introduction, before I give you the date,
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the time, anything like that, what I have to give
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is a very very very strong warning. What you are
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about to hear may offend some They may feel that
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this subject matter is not suitable for a Christian podcast.
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They may be offended by something they're going to hear
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in this but I feel it's important, so I'm going
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to discuss it. But I'm letting you know that be
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warned because what you are about to hear could prove
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to be offensive. For the last several years, the Atholic
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Church has noted an alarming increase in the number of exorcisms.
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And I'm going to be bringing to your attention a
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podcast that is now on the Spotify podcasting chart, I
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think at number fourteen, that deals with this alarming number
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of exorcisms and brings you the case files of these
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exorcisms and somewhat of a dramatic format. And when you
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hear the dramatic format and you hear some of the
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words that are said, you may be greatly offended. But
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because there's a podcast out there about exorcisms that's rising
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the podcasting chart. I think it's my job to bring
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it to your attention, and I'm gonna let you hear
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at least the trailer for it, and then we will
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discuss it and we will talk about it all right
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in this podcast. The trailer that you're going to hear,
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you're going to hear a word. The word may offend
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some people, but I'm going to give you this word
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by reading from the Bible Hebrews chapter twelve, verse seven.
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If you endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons.
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For what son is he whom the Father chasteneth not.
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But if you be without chastisement, wherefore all our partakers,
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then are ye bastards and not sons. And the trailer
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that I'm going to play for you in a minute,
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bastards or bastard is used. So I want you to
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know it's a word used in the Bible. But some
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of you may be offended by it, but it's right there.
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That's the word that's going to be used. I just
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want you to be know that that's coming. You're gonna
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hear a dramatic you're gonna hear these sounds, which of
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a dramatic you know, giving forth of what happens during
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some of these supposed exorcisms that have occurred. Now, I
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am by no means saying I agree with the Catholic
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understanding of exorcism. I'm not saying that in any way,
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shape or form. I'm telling you here is a podcast
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about the alarming increase in the number of exorcisms that's
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happening within Catholicism. And then they compile these case files
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and then dramatize them in a sense, and you're going
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to hear it and you can draw your own conclusion. Obviously,
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as you know, with anything, I don't care. I don't
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care where the sermon is, I don't care what the
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theology is. You always need to be thinking and careful
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and examine and ensure that you are pursuing truth. So
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I think that the subject matter may be offensive. The
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way it is portrayed maybe offensive. A word that may
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be used may be offensive. The sounds you hear you
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may not like. And if you have small children, you
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definitely may not want them to hear this. All right,
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So with all of that said, welcome everyone, good evening,
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Welcome to a late night episode of the Theology Central podcast.
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It is Tuesday, November twelfth, twenty twenty four. It is
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currently ten thirty four pm Central Time, and I'm coming
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to you live from the Theology Central studio located right
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here in Abilene, Texas. Now, we were doing kind of
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a series where I was looking at all of the
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podcast on the Spotify podcasting charts right especially in the
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spirituality Christian religion category, and we were making through some
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some of those things were just frustrating to listen to.
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It was kind of crazy. I don't know if we
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were really accomplishing a lot, but we were doing that,
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and of course we get sidetracked by other things. But
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I thought, well, I haven't looked at the Spotify podcasting
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charts and for I don't know forever, let me look.
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And so I started looking, like, wait, a minut, what
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is this? And I think it was at number fourteen
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and it was increasing. It It had passed up Elevation Church,
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Steven Ferdick had passed him up, and it had passed
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a lot of big name you know, preachers and teachers.
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And the name of the podcast is The Exorcist Files.
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The Exorcist Files. Here's a little bit of how it
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is described for the last and right now, it has
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over six thousand, you know, reviews, and it's at four
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point nine stars. Over six thousand people giving it a
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star rating and it has a four point nine So
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a lot of people have reviewed it. If you have
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six over six thousand reviews, I mean there's a lot
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of people downloading and listening to your message, because most
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people won't even leave a rating or anything. Right, So
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it's the Exorcist files. They label it under true crime,
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which is interesting. I think that means they're trying to
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not have it just found somewhere in the theology section
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or religion section. I think maybe they're going for a
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broader audience. Okay, So I found that interesting, and here
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is the description. For the last several years, the Catholic
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Church has noted an alarming increase and the number of
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exorcisms performed. Now for some of the most disturbing and
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vicious cases of possession, one priest is often summoned. With
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almost two decades in ministry, renowned priests, Father Carlos Martin's
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has encountered evil in nearly every way imaginable, from Luigi
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boards and curses to witches and demonic packs. Father Martins
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has battled the ancient serpent and many forms. The Exorcist
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files are his story. Now I do not believe, or
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I don't know. I would have to look. I don't
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know if this has any official sanction from the Vatican.
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I don't know if it's recognized in any way, shape
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or form there. I've not done any research. I've just
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seen it listed on the chart. I'm like, you know what,
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if I'm going to talk about it, let's do it
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now so that we can play the trailer. It's late night,
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less likely to offend anyone. So here what I'm going
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to do is, I'm going to play the trailer now.
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I do have the Catholic Catechism right here in front
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of me, and I'm going to read a paragraph sixteen
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seventy three, which is a paragraph about exorcism, so you'll
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get kind of the official Catholic idea of it. I
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was going to go downstairs and look through one of
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my closets where I have lots of my textbooks and
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note books and course materials when I was pursuing a
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degree in Catholic theology, because I was very interested at
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the time trying to understand and taking courses dealing with
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the Catholic view of exorcisms and and and their approach
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to it, and just really trying to understand it. So
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I think I have an I think I have all
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of my notes and everything for a course of course
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on Catholic exorcisms. I think I have. I think I
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have an entire It's like a large notebook on it.
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So I remember I had to have a how to
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have a procter for one of my exams, and uh,
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one of I think it was one of the doctors
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I worked with at the time, and the doctor was
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the one proctering my exam and was looking at it
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and was like, what in the world are you taking?
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This is like exorcisms and demon possession and how to
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remove it. What in the world are you doing. I'm like, well,
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you know, you never know, right, So I just choked
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and they were like, what, You're always taking some weird course.
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So I have to look and see if I have
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all of my material. But with all of that said,
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by no means am I claiming I'm an expert on this. No, look,
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I'm not even pretending that. But obviously Cathola has a
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very specific view on this. And if you've noticed, even
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within the Christian world, there's been kind of a shift, right,
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We've talked about it where there's kind of now this
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theology within some branches of non Catholic Christianity claiming that
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the biggest problem facing the Church are demon possessed Christians.
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They're saying, now, the thing holding Christians back and causing
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all the problems and sin in their life is that
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Christians can be possessed by demons. Now, I completely reject
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that theology. I believe that as Christians, we are in
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dwelt by the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit seals us,
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we have the Holy Satan can't come in and take
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over when we have the Holy Spirit inside of us.
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So I do not believe a Christian can be possessed
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by a demon. But that is a teaching even within
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some non Catholic circles, and then of course within Catholicism
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they have their own philological approach to demonic possession, and
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then their own approach and how to remove a demon
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through an exorcism. I believe the way a demon would
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be removed is you would not want to speak to
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the demon and have this big conversation in Hollywood. You
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would want to speak to the person present the gospel,
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and if one believes on Christ, then obviously if they
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are possessed, the demon would leave because now the Holy
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Spirit would in dwell them. That's kind of an oversimplification
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maybe of my view, but just so that you know it.
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But here it is. This is the trailer for The
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Exorcist Files, which is currently like number fourteen on the
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Spotify podcasting charts. Now, just remember, this is going to
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be dramatized. It's going to have all the sounds you
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would expect dealing with exorcisms and demonic possession. And you're
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going to hear, as from Hebrews thirteen. If you're not suns,
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you're a bastards. What's going to use the word bastard.
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So I'm just letting you know that's what you're going
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to hear. All right. I've done everything I can do
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to warn you so that nobody is easily offended. Obviously,
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you know, for some of you you'll be like, big deal.
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Others of you will be like no, okay, So you're
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gonna get wildly different reactions. But here we go, so hey,
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don't be offended after this all right, because you've been warned,
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right you can obviously now you can turn this off.
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But here we go. There's a lot of people, there's
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obviously a lot of interest in it. If it's moving
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up the podcasting charts. You can determine is this like, oh,
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this is ridiculous, this is hyperbole exaggerated Hollywood? Or do
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you feel like, wait, what is going on? It may
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raise all kinds of questions. I don't know, but here
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you go. Here is introduction or introducing the Exorcist files.
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Cheryl, Cheryl, honey, have someone here on to introduce you to.
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Hell?
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Sure?
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Why did you bring that?
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Pre what Hollywood portrayed in the movie The Exorcist with levitations, vomiting,
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spitting at the priest, with an uncanny marksmanship, all of
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that has not been a movie for me. I have
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seen that firsthand.
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Dark angels, demons, spiritual warfare. I need a priest.
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What do you think? It is? Something that's been inside
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me for a long time for some misalleged battle is
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utter myth, fables and stories designed to manipulate the masses.
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I order you to go in the name of Christ.
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I'm you've been together too long.
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But for Father Carlos Martin's. It is not only real,
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it's his job.
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Carlos. He definitely has something going on.
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It's primal.
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He's acting like an animal.
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In twenty eighteen, it was reported that the number of
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cases of demonic possession had skyrocketed around the world, constituting
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what some called a pastoral emergency. Still surely go thing's back.
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I see it, and for some of the most disturbing
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and difficult cases.
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Tell me who you are, the one you won't get out,
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the one who can't.
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Father Martin's was often summoned.
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My name is Father Carlos Martins. I am an exorcist.
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I was an atheist until as a young adult, the
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Lord brought me out of darkness, and since then I've
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been living in his love. But I've also seen.
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Things four hundred and seventy three twelve.
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Of me, very evil thing things that I wish weren't true.
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There's evil here, evil witchcraft.
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See the stitching, do.
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Not touch it.
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My job and the job of those like me, is
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to do battle with these things. This is the first
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time I've opened my files about these battles to the public.
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You do have something spiritual going on, but.
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This sounds like.
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Demonic, Yeah, demonic, you need help.
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From my Heart Radio comes The Exorcist Files, a deep
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dive into the true stories from Father Carlos Martin's Listen
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to the Exorcist Files on January twenty fifth on the
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iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Now you can choose to go look up podcast on
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any podcasting app. You have the Exorcist Files, you can
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choose to listen. Obviously, you should be critical, you should question,
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you should challenge, you should you should you know, really
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