Ten Commandments In Public Schools

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Looking at our world from a theological
perspective. This is the Theology Central podcast,

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making Theology Central. Good afternoon,
Well not by the time I'm done

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with this episode, So I should
just say afternoon or questionable afternoon, bad

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afternoon, a regrettable afternoon. I
don't know, but it is afternoon.

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It is Thursday, June the twentieth, twenty twenty four. It is currently

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two eight pm Central time, and
I am coming to you live from the

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Theology Central studio located right here in
Abilene, Texas. Now I hate I

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really do. I Some people may
think I find great delight and pleasure,

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but I really do hate knowing that, Hey, you're going to turn on

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the microphone, You're gonna go live. You're going to put forth all of

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that effort, all of that time, put forth all of that thinking and

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consideration and work, and what's going
to be the end result is ninety percent

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of the people are going to disagree
with you. Many of that ninety percent

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are going to be extremely angry.
They're going to either send you very negative

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emails, post negative things on YouTube, whatever the case may be. Because

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most Christians are going to disagree with
you. I don't necessarily like that.

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Now. I like the fact that
I'm not you know that I'm willing to

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go against the majority. I don't
apologize for that. I am glad that

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I'm willing to do that. But
it's not always pleasurable. It's not the

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thing like, you know, hey, I could go do something else with

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my day, right, I could. I could go do anything else.

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It's not like I'm making you know, money doing this, so you know,

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but why? Then the question may
be why why do you want to

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turn on the microphone and go against
what most Christians think? Well, it's

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something I've basically been doing my whole
Christian life. I just tend to question

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the way the majority thinks. I
tend to challenge that, and in my

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perspective, there should be there should
be a large number of people who like

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that and support that and kind of
welcome it, even if they don't always

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agree. For this reason, you
need someone who will challenge the status quo,

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who will challenge the majority, who
will at least question it, because

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then that challenges the way you think, and that should benefit everyone in some

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way, shape or form at least. Maybe that's maybe I'm being naive and

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maybe I'm thinking or trying to justify
my constantly going against the majority. But

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going against the majority look has never
never gone well for me. I got

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kicked off Christian radio because I was
going against the majority. I think in

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many cases, whatever success I found
in ministry, I ultimately destroyed that success

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by continuing to question and challenge and
change and refuse to just say, well,

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this is the way we believe,
but constantly re studying things and being

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willing to change my perspective and questioning
and hypotheses and testing it and thesis and

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not just learning theology, but doing
theology. That puts you in a very

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awkward position. And this situation I'm
about to talk about is going to put

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me once again in the minority.
But I would pray that you hear well.

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Yeah, I pray, and I
beg and I plead that you will

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hear me out and at least consider
it, because I'm going to challenge something

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that I think most Christians would be
like, yes, I support that.

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That needs to happen everywhere in the
United States of America. Your initial response

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is going to be yes, I
support that, But I'm going to try

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to challenge it, not only from
just a kind of a logical perspective.

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My main focus here is to challenge
it from a philological perspective that I think

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our understanding here seems to deny what
I think we claim to believe philologically.

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All right, so are you ready? So here's the thing I don't know

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exactly. See. Do I have
a time at four O two a M

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four O two am Central timers,
I like to refer to it as correct

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time, right Texas time four O
two am. I get a notification on

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my iPad about a news story from
the Associated Press. The headline reads,

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new law requires all Louisiana public school
classrooms to display the Ten Commandments. A

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new law acquires all public schools and
Louisiana to display the Ten Commandments. So

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I was like, oh, that's
crazy. So I don't know. At

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some point, I think I've probably
fell back asleep, woke back up.

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I don't even know the chronological order
of everything. But then I started just

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grabbing my podcast apps and just playing
different news podcasts, and I heard it

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on a number of news podcasts talking
about, hey, this new law requires

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Louisiana schools to publish the Ten Commandments
and the classroom and I just started shaking

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my head going here we go again. Why is this such a desire?

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Why is this such a goal for
many many within the Christian world. We

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need the Ten Commandments published in every
public school classroom and America. This is

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the way we need to bring God
back to the classroom. We will change,

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change everything. And it's so bizarre
because it's like, so, if

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we publish the law, that's the
Ten Commandments would be the law of God.

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If we publish the law of God
in the classroom, what are you

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hoping to accomplish? Typically what I
hear, well, this will bring back

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morality, this will bring back a
sense of wrong and right. And in

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many cases, when I hear Christians
start talking, it seems to me that

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they don't even really understand the purpose
of God's law. Now, we've done

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over one hundred hours of teaching on
this podcast about the proper distinction between law

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and gospel, and I think that
what many Christians say when they about getting

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the Ten Commandments published in a public
school classroom is that they don't really understand

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God's law in the slightest And it
really frustrates me. And so what people

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do will get Oh, you're some
liberal, you're some you're a communist,

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You're you're a socialist, you're you're
who knows what I'm a Satanist, knows

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what I'll be called because I'm I'm
opposed to it. I don't want the

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Ten Commandments published or posted in a
public school. I do not. I

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think it's a public school. It's
not a religious school. A lot of

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the Christians who argue about that go
go to their churches and go, where's

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the Tin Commandments? You want them
published in a public school? Where are

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they at? They're not even in
your sanctuary. Where are they They're not

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at your front door. They're not
in the parking lot. You got a

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big American flag there, But I
don't see the Ten Commandments. But you

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want them posted in a public school? Post them in your church. You

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can go door to door. You
can go door to door. Yes,

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I'm from the first Baptist church down
the street and we're just handing out copies

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of the Ten Commandments. Here you
go, have a great day. You

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could put a table in front of
your church when cars are driving by going

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free ten Commandments. You could hand
them out. You can handle. I'm

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out on the street corner. You
can go anywhere why do you need the

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public school to do it for you? It's a public school, it's not

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a church. The church seems to
sometimes want the school to do what the

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church is unwilling to do. Oh
we need the Bible taught in the public

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school. Why because it's not being
taught in your church. You're too busy

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playing fun, having fun food and
games for the kids. So I'm opposed

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to it. And here I'm just
gonna break this down into two easy to

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follow arguments. First, if you
want the Ten Commandments published, and everyone

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knows where I'm going with this,
if you want the Ten Commandments published in

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a public school, you're going to
have to then allow other religious documents,

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other religious statements of faith, other
religious things to be posted and published in

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the same public public classroom and public
school classroom. And I don't many of

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you can go no, this is
a Christian nation. No, no,

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no, Look man, if you're
the rights you demand are the rights you

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have to give. If you want
the right to publish your religious text,

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your religious laws, your the laws
of God, then if you want them

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published in the classroom, then what
stops a Muslim from wanting something from Islam

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published or or everybody knows where I've
got what do I have? Many of

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you know you've been listening to this
podcast forever. I have here in my

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hand the Satanic Bible. So why
wouldn't the I don't know, the Church

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of Satan say we want published the
nine Satanic statements. You've got your ten

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commandments, Well, we've got nine
Satanic statements. Satan represents indulgence instead of

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Abstinencetan represents vital existence instead of spiritual
pipe dreams. Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead

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of hypocritical self deceit. Satan represents
kindness to those who deserve it instead of

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love waste it on in grades.
I could go on and on, I

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could go through all the nine statements. Why can't they and be no,

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that's not right. And Christians are
so it's so insane how Christians will act.

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If we want a Nativity scene put
in a governmental building, well then

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the Temple of Satan will come and
say, well, we want to publish,

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we want we want to set up
a display. No tear it down.

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How dare you do that? Well, wait a minute. If you

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want the right, you have to
give the right. If you deny them

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the right. Then you have to
deny yourself the right. Christians want some

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kind of special allowance. We get
to do it. You don't. The

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Bible, not the Koran, the
Bible, not the Satanic Bible, the

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Ten Commandments, nothing else. We
want it all our way. We want

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a prayer in the public school,
but it better be a Christian prayer.

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It better not be a prayer from
a Muslim. What makes you so special

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that you get your religion in a
public school public? Do you understand the

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word public? It's not private.
You build your own private Christian school.

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Call it the School of the Ten
Commandments. Make it a requirement that you

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cannot graduate from our school unless you
can recite the Ten Commandments perfectly. When

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they walk across stage, you're like, I'm sorry, we cannot hand you

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to your diploma until you recite the
Ten Commandments. I'm sorry you missed.

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You missed commandment number three. Go
sit down. Maybe next year you can

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graduate. Do that. I mean, come on, you can go.

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You can go to town. You
can have a class on the Ten Commandments

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Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday open to

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the public at your church. You
can announce it everywhere. We're going to

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do a class on the Ten Commandments
every day of the week for the next

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thirteen years. They know you want
the public school to do it. Why

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the church can't get the job done? You need to help with the public

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school. Again, If you want
it in the public school, then that's

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a right you demand. That's the
right you must then give. If you

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deny, if you deny others that
right, you will ultimately deny yourself.

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And then the public school turns into
what some kind of religious war. Public

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school has enough trouble teaching reading,
writing, and arithmetic, do we need

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to add something else? I mean, come on, we criticize the public

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school, it's so weird. The
religious typically the Christians will well criticize the

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public school non stop, and then
turn around what the public school will somehow

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be responsible for, I don't know, teaching the Bible, leading prayer and

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posting the Ten Commandments as incompetent as
we say they are, Why would you

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want them anywhere near that? So? Are they incompetent? Are they not?

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So? That's my frustration with the
whole concept, is you get the

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Ten Commendments in the public school.
Congratulations, Now, it's only gonna be

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five minutes. It's only gonna be
five minutes for someone's gonna knock on the

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door. Yes, we're from the
Church of Satan down the street, or

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hey, we're from the mosque down
the street, or we're from this or

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we're from that where and we want
this published. Well, no, no,

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you can't do that. Well you've
got the Tank commandments. Well,

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you know, and then you try
to make all kinds of rules. Well

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it's not really religious, it's just
a set of laws. Okay. Well

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well then okay, then what other
laws can you get? I mean,

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like, then you know it's a
religious document. You know there's religious motivation

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behind it. You know that,
especially if you are a Christian. It's

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the law of God given to Moses. We believe it comes directly from God.

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So my first thing is just leads
to logical inconsistency and it just turns

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into our religious war. And then
Christians get mad when someone else wants to

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the same thing. Happened was that
in the Iowa Capitol building where the Satanic

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Temple put up their display and someone
tore it down because oh no, we

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can't have Satan right and right just
varying. Almost next to it was a

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Christian display. I think of the
Nativity. Well, if you can have

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one, you've got to have the
other. It's so weird we if any

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rights of a Christian seems to be
even possibly infringed upon, we scream persecution,

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persecution, But then we want to
deny other people the same rights we

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demand. That's just logically just it. It's incoherent, is what it becomes.

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It's just ridiculous. But here here's
my issue with it. And I'll

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just read a little bit of the
news story. I know, I kind

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of just jumped right to my commentary. Well, let me give you a

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little bit of my news story or
a little bit of the news story.

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All right, So again from the
Associated Press, I quote. Louisiana has

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become the first state to require that
the Ten Commandments be displayed in every public

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school classroom, the latest move from
the GOP dominated legislator pushing a conservative agenda

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under a new governor. The legislation
that Republican Governor Jeff Landry signed into law

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on Wednesday requires a poster size display
of the Ten Commandments and large, easily

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readable font and all public classrooms from
kindergarten to state funded universities. If you

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want to respect the rule of law, you've got to start from the original

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lawgiver, which was Moses. Well, I thought the original lawgiver was God.

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Isn't it God's law given to Moses? Okay? But all right,

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who got the Okay? Well he
does say who got the commandments from God?

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So he has to acknowledge then this
is from God. So this is

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there's a religious aspect to this.
They cannot deny it. All right.

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So the idea is, okay,
we have that we have a lack of

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respect for the law and society,
and if we post the Ten Commandments,

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this will produce respect for the law
and all those who read the Ten Commandments.

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So now I'm going to transition from
my kind of logical argument against this

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process to now a philological one.
I think many Christian parents, many churches,

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many programs. I can't necessarily say
a wanna itself, but programs like

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that really emphasize teaching the Ten Commandments
to the kids. We've got to teach

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the Ten Commandments to the kids.
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to do that. And you know, God's top ten commandments this little song

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and they're supposed to teach kids in
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kinds of different churches. They'll have
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learned the Ten Commandments, they learned
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then their kids come up in front
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and they sing it, and everybody's
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Oh how cute the kids learn the
ten Commandments. Now what's interesting is if

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you're if you're like more philologically inclined
as everyone's taking, you know, pictures

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and sending them to Grandma and going
ooh, how cute. What I like

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to do is ask the kids,
if I get an opportunity, so tell

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me about the ten Commandments. What
what did you take away from the ten

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Commandments? What do they mean?
What did you learn about the ten Commandments?

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Well, basically a lot of times
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if I'm going to be a good
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have to keep the ten commandments.
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then I'm bad and then God will
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very a moralistic understanding of it's moralism
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you want them to be good little
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for behavioral modification. But they completely
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into a theistic moralism. It's not
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well, the law tells us what
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we look at the law is that
we do not keep it. We cannot

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keep it, we fall short of
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who came and kept the commandments for
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in him, his obedience to the
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can't articulate that. They just know, Oh, if I do bad,

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then I'm bad. I've got to
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I have to do good. If
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I've got to do good. Doing
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you're a sinner by nature. You
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in the eyes of God, because
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filthy rags before His holiness. Because
our good is tested not by other little

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boys and girls, but by God, and he demands perfection, and your

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goodness is never perfect. Therefore you're
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if you don't understand that, Jesus
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Sermon on the Mount to really help
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which demands perfection, not only externally
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don't understand, he had a conversation
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what must I do to have eternal
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And he's like, I kept them. And Jesus like, oh,

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you did well, Then go sell
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poor. And he could not do
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even though he thought he did.
The law is there to reveal our

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inability to keep it. It is
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us to Christ. So if you
post it in the classrooms, what do

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you hope to accomplish? Make everyone
just moral? You just want moralism,

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Todd, You just want morality,
I thought, Christians, we're not there

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to promote morality. We're there to
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perfect, We're not we need Christ
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think many Christians today just want moralism. They don't really care about the Gospel,

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they don't care about theology, they
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to be good. Hey, don't
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back to what you found, what
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don't drink, don't dance, don't
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you know, don't It just becomes
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to the movies, don't wear a
short skirt, don't do this, don't

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don't do this, don't do this, don't do this. Don't go mixed

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bathing or you know, swimming with
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because that's mixed bathing and that's wrong. Don't do this. Don't women,

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don't wear pants, just do don't
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rules, rules, law, law, law, law, law, law,

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law, law, law. And
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keeping the law, keeping the law, and it's even taught that you can

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keep it. It's a complete misunderstanding
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also forgets and it also overlooks an
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controversial. We've talked about it in
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the Law and Gospel, we've talked
about this, and I really want you

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to consider this. The con that
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sin, I will admit, is
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been debated and interpreted various ways throughout
Christian history. Now I put forth this

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argument all the time, the Law
of God. What happens is people just

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turn this into a sense of moralism, and I think this absolutely defeats Like,

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what are we hoping to accomplish by
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just to give sense moralism? That
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Gospel and see people say, not
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them a little bit better, Because
what good is that if we believe that

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without the Gospel there is an eternity
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more concerned not with cleaning them up, but with them coming to the realization

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of their sin and putting their faith
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that the law of God actually provokes
and incites sinfulness. Now, this concept

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is complex and nuanced, and it
has been debated throughout Church history. That

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is a fact. Now. One
of the key passages in the Bible that

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addresses this idea is found in the
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Apostle Paul. For example, in
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role of the Law and relation to
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through twenty five, Paul reflects on
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revealing sin and highlighting human disobedience.
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just, and good, but he
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desires within individuals. Paul writes that
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up sinful passions and lead to transgressions
rather than preventing them. Now this is

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a theological or you want the ten
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gonna prevent things. It may actually
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and provoking the very behavior you're seeking
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in the Book of Romans, chapter
seven. What shall we say, then,

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is the law sin certainly not.
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have known sin except through the law, for I would have known I would

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not have known convestciousness unless the law
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sin taking opportunity by the commandment produced
in me. Now look, but listen,

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sin taking opportunity. I want you
to hear that, sin taking opportunity

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by the commandment produced in me all
manner of evil desire. Sin takes the

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opportunity by the commandment. And then
look, it produces in me all manner

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of evil desire. For apart from
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law actually provokes it, It brings
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evil desire. That's something that never
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think the Church has such a poor
understanding of the Law of God. It

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has been so convoluted and hijacked.
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called gospels are nothing more than the
law in disguise. I'm gonna continue around.

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I want you to hear that again. But sin taking opportunity by the

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commandment produced in me all manner of
evil desire. For apart from the law,

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sin was dead I was alive once
without the law, but when the

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commandment came, sin revived and I
die. When the law came sin and

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the commandment, which was to bring
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For sin, taking occasion by the
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Therefore, the law is holy and
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How then, uh has then what
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Certainly not but sin, that it
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through what is good, so that
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sinful. For we know that the
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sold under sin. For what I'm
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I will to do that I do
not practice, but what I hate that

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I do. If then I do
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I will not do, I agree
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now it is no longer I who
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me. For I know that in
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for to will present with me.
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I do not find. For the
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do not do, but the evil
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Now if I do what I will
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I who do it, but sin
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how the law actually produces this,
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Why because we have a sinful nature. Now, if you are a Pelagian

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or a semi Pelagian, Now if
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where men do not have a sinful
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sense guilty in Adam and that sinful
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They truly are free. Well,
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publish the Ten Commandments. Then I
guess now you still go back to my

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logical issue. Then you got to
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the point is is in maybe the
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is just basically morally neutral, they're
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the ten but that's not the way
it works. The Ten Commandments are going

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to be seen by people who possess
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actually and sites provokes brings it out
as one source says Paul's argument about it

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inciting sin producing sin. His argument
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inherently sinful, and the law serves
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The presence of the law reveals the
depth of human depravity and our inability to

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perfectly fulfill its requirements. Instead of
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actually bring about a heightened awareness of
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Right, the law does not produce
righteousness. The law produces death. It

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produces it is shame, It produces
condemnation, It produces fear, it produces

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embarrassment, it produces discouragement because it
destroys you, it breaks you, it

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humiliates you, it shoves your face
and the mud and go loser, failure.

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You can't do it. But well, I teach the little kids the

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Ten Commandments. Oh, they see
the Ten Commandments. They have no clue

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what's going on other than they are
taught like, oooh, okay, I'm

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supposed to be good. I'm supposed
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good. And they feel shame and
embarrassment and discouragement. They don't know what

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to do, and many of them
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sweetness and the beauty of the Gospel, which says you can't keep it,

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but Christ kept it for you.
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further explored and the broader context of
palse theology of grace and salvation. Paul

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asserts that while the law may incite
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for redemption through faith in Jesus Christ. The law serves as a tutor,

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highlighting our need for a savior and
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is found in Christ. The law's
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The law is not to make you
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law is not to produce morality.
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exists within us, and we need
Christ. Our whole understanding of the law

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is so broken in American evangelicalism.
In summary, the teaching that the law

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of God can incite sin is found
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particularly in his Letters to the Romans
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Paul's reflections on the relationship between law
and sin, underscore the profound impact of

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the law and revealing human sinfulness and
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It produces it, it leads to
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we got to post the Ten Commandments
everywhere? Okay, whenever? All

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right here? Christians says that what
do you want to accomplish? Almost inevitably,

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it will make people good, it
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And it's always like it's and I'm
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understand what the law is actually supposed
to do? Have you not ever been

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taught in your church the actual use
of the law? You are you so

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just confused by that? Do you
not know that everyone has a sinful nature

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and law law and then the sin
inside of us will work together only to

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bring about sin and sighting, sin, rebellion, and death. Do you

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not understand how it works at all? Some people just want Christianity to be

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nothing than a system of morality.
Christianity gives us a morality in which we

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cannot keep. No one can just
go to the Christian Have you been reading

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the Christian host recently? How we've
got past two very well known prominent pastors

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who are in some serious trouble.
Why because of sin? Now that's just

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But I'm telling you they're sin in
every church and every congregation, and every

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pulpit, behind every microphone, whoever
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We are sinners. We are sinners. We sin sin, sin, sin,

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sin, sin is the norm.
If you want to say, hey,

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it's it's two forty pm Central Time, do you know what Christians are

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doing right now? They are sinning. Hey it's now three forty pm.

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Do you know what Christians are doing? Yes, they are sinning. Hey

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it's eleven pm at night. Do
you know what Christians are doing? Yes,

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they are sinning. Hey it's Sunday
morning at ten am. Do you

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know what Christians are doing? They
are sinning because we all fall short and

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thought word indeed, because God,
God's law demands absolute perfection. If you

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break one point of the law,
you're guilty of all of it. You

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are in a perpetual state of sinfulness. You are in a perpetual state of

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failure. You're in a perpetual state
of rebellion. And the only thing you

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can do is say I can't do
anything, and you're great turn to Christ.

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He took care of the law for
you. He kept it perfectly.

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When you put your faith in him, positionally, you're declared to be perfect

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and holy, even though practically you're
nothing. You're not, you're nowhere close

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to it. The law is there
to say, guys, did you see

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the Ten Commandments? We're all messed
up. We're in trouble, ladies and

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gentlemen, we're in trouble. The
Ten Commandments is the iceberg that sinks our

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ship. Okay, we maybe think
we're floating along fine, but we see

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ten Commandments ahead. Bloom, it
goes down. Jack and Rose. They

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both die. There's not room on
the board for either one of them.

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Okay, I'm quoting from the Titanic. Every every one goes down. No

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one survives, everyone dies. The
only hope is Christ, who keeps the

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law. He kept the law perfectly
for you, perfectly. When you put

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your faith in him, his obedience
is accredited to your account. It doesn't

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make you righteous, It declares you
to be righteous. So before God,

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you keep the law perfectly, and
practice you fall short constantly. My fear

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is we are logically inconsistent by demanding
that the Ten Commanders have put it in

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a public school, but we don't
want anything else, and that goes against

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Christianity published in the public school,
because I mean, it's so weird.

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It's like it's like so many times
something else gets p in the school,

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like keep your politics out of the
school, keep your agenda. We don't

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want your LGBTQ agenda. We don't
this, we want these books banned,

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we want this band, we don't
like this, we don't like that.

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But hey, we want the Ten
Commandments and we want the Bible. Well,

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keep your agenda out of it.
What you take away from others,

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you take away from yourself. And
if you demand the right, you've got

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to give the right. So that
and then secondly, it just seems to

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demonstrate to me that at least the
Christians who get all up in arms and

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look, the politicians do it to
win elections. I don't care what politicians

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do. I don't care at all. I can't stand the political process,

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hate it all. But the Christians
who get caught up in this as some

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great agenda they think they're succeeding.
It's like you're literally demonstrating a complete misunderstanding

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of the law of God, a
complete philological incompetence. So do your kids

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know the Ten Commandments now before you
want them to go to the public school

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and learn it? And you do
realize you can publish them in your house,

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right, You can post them in
your house. You do realize your

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church can post them, right.
So I don't know why you want the

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public school to do it. But
here's the question. Do your kids know

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the Ten Commandments? Stop what you're
doing right now and go say hey,

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kids, do you know the Ten
Commandments? I say, okay, tell

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me about the ten Commandments? What
does it mean? What do these commandments

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teach you? What do you understand
about the commandments? What are they four?

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And report back to me what your
kids say. Now, if one

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of your kids says, well,
they show me that I cannot keep it

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and that I'm a sinner and my
only hope is in Jesus Christ, who

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kept it for me, and by
putting my faith in him, his righteousness

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is accredited in my account. If
they cannot articulate that at all, then

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guess what You've taught the kids the
law. You've not given them the Gospel.

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And you know why, because it's
easier to give them a list of

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ten things to memorize than it is
to try to explain what they actually mean.

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And sadly, your church is probably
guilty of destroying any correct understanding of

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the Gospel by so promoting morality.
I've seen entire vacation Bible schools dedicated to

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the Ten Commandments. Kids walk out
absolutely philologically on a path to hell.

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They're going to be like the rich
Im real I've kept these since I was

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little. We can all keep the
ten Commandments, well, then they'll trust

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in their own righteousness. And you
know what's the going to be the shocking

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discovery that righteousness is not good enough
to get into heaven. Ask your kids,

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hey, someone keeps the Ten Commandments, they follow all ten, they

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do almost perfect in keeping them.
Do they get to heaven? They understand

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heaven in terms of law keeping and
law keeping and being good. That's utterly

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that didn't. That's anathema. If
we understand the Gospel to be a gospel

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of what Christ did for us,
not what we do, you're literally denying

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the very gospel. But go talk
to your kids now. Your kids may

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have it down. If you do, I would love to know that.

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If they don't, just be honest
with it. I'm not going to call

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into question your parenting skills because we've
all we've all made that mistake when you

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parent, we tend to parent from
a law based mentality, not a gospel

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based mentality. We want behavioral modification. We typically are more worried about their

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behavior than we are their theological understanding. I mean, come on, let's

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be honest. You're a parent.
I understand it, but it's something we

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have to at least acknowledge. And
how are the kids turning out in your

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church? Now, that's where you
should get concerned, because if your church

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is turning out, basically, what's
going to become little Pharisees and Sadducees who

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understand moralism but they don't understand actually
the Gospel. That's horrifying and when then

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they'll grow up? Want the Ten
Commandments published in the public school, which

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is a complete demonstration of a lack
of understanding the law of God. You

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want prayer in the public school,
how about you open up your church and

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pray. You can open up your
church twenty four hours a day, seven

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days a week. You can be
praying there all the time. You can

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invite people in the neighborhood to come
by and pray. We're going to have

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prayer at the top of each hour. No one's stopping you from praying.

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You want Bible in the public school, how about you put Bible back in

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the church. Stop all your foolish
games and your youth programs where it's fun,

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food and activity and the kids are
biblically illiterate. You want the Ten

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Commandments where I can't find them anywhere
in your church. News. I f

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at yahoo dot com news. I
f at yahoo dot com. That's news.

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I f at Yahoo dot com.
And I can hear that sound.

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People are already you you heretic.
You don't know what you're talking about.

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We're gonna put God back in America. We're gonna make America great again,

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okay, you know. And it's
just gonna turn into political nonsense, is

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what it's going to turn into,
which are a very much a big,

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a spoonful of Christian nationalism. It's
probably what I'm about to get in my

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comments section and news feed or my
email, not my newsfeed, my email.

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All right, thank you for listening. I know now I've become your

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least favorite podcaster. But you know
what, sooner or later it had to

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happen. And trust me, Trust
me, it's not you, it's me.

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It's okay. I know the breakup
will be hard, but it's not

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you. It's all me. I'll
take the blame. I'll take the blame.

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We were never meant to be.
All right, have a great day. God bless