Jan. 8, 2025
Sermons vs. AI: The Future of Preaching

A discussion about how AI can analyze a sermon.
A discussion about how AI can analyze a sermon.
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Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is
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the Theology Central podcast making Theology Central.
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Good morning everyone.
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It is Wednesday, January eighth, twenty twenty five. It is
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currently ten three am Central Time, and I am coming
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to you live from the Theology Central studio located right.
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Here in Abilene, Texas.
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I don't know if you could hear me picking up
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things as I was giving you the introduction, but I
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have here in my hands an iPad. I have right
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here next to me an actual physical Bible. I have
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a notebook. I have a pencil. So I've got technology.
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I've got kind of the old technology. I've got physical things,
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so I have a little mixture of things going on here.
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All but everything we are about to do is all about.
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Moving into the future and how the future is going
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to be greatly shaped by a very important piece of technology.
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Whether you like it or not, it is here. And
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we started talking about this last Sunday. I spent two
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plus hours on Sunday talking about artificial intelligence and how
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I believe it's going to have a profound impact on Christianity,
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on religion in general in some ways. I mean, I
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was pretty bold in my assessment, and I know some
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people probably didn't necessarily like it. I believe AI has
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reached a point where it really makes the church. It
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makes pastors, Bible teachers, even those of us doing theological
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podcast it makes us completely irrelevant. You don't need a pastor,
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you don't need a church, you don't need a Christian
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podcast because of what AI can do. Now, I know
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that's a major statement. And on Sunday, I spent what
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you know, two hours and some cases trying to outline
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and explain what AI can do and what was fascinating
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about how those two hours went, and you can go
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back and listen to those messages. In fact, we've created
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an entire series on AI and the future of the
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Church because we're gonna be talking about artificial intelligence all
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of twenty twenty five.
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We're gonna be talking about.
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It over and over and over again, and we're gonna
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be utilizing it frequently, and I'm going to do my
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very best to teach you how to use it, because
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I think that's.
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Going to become really.
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The role of the church is really now teaching people
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how to utilize this tool, because the tool is not
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going away, So you really I think it's almost now
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you've got discipleship is going to be saying, hey, here's
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how to utilize AI in your Christian life. I think
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it's really what it's going to become. I know that
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sounds far fetched and crazy, but I really do believe that.
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What so I did my very best to try to
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explain that. But what I was going to say is,
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at the end of the second hour, what was fascinating
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is something happened that kind of proved my entire point,
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right because I talked about it as I was wrapping
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everything up, I said, Okay, next week we get back
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to Isaiah forty and I think starting in verse eight
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and following, and what did someone do? Someone in the
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congregation took their phone, used AI and within like five
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seconds ten seconds, already had a summary and an analysis
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of that entire section of Isaiah forty right there on
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their phone. They just typed in Isaiah forty book basically
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analyzed Isaiah forty eight through following, and they had it
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right there, right there on their phone.
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They why even show up to church next week?
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They already have a complete They can depending on how
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in depth they want to go, they can have a
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full exegetical study right there, typed out by AI without
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ever even coming to church.
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By the they could get in.
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Their car, by the time they arrive at church, they
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could already have a complete exegetical study of that section
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of scripture in their hand, right there on their phone.
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So I love the fact that that happened at the
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end because it kind of proved my point. So we
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are going to continue to talk about this. We're going
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to continue to try to figure this out and what
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we're going to do in this hour, hour, hour and
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a half, however how long this takes, this is gonna
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get this. We're gonna dry something in real time. I
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have done no prep beforehand. I know what I want
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to do, but I'm going to be walking through this
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with you in real time, so just please be patient.
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There may be some some technical glitches here. There may
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be some some difficulties here. Things may not work smoothly.
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There may be some moments of dead air. I know
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as a broadcaster you never want dead air, but there may.
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Be a little bit of that.
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But hopefully this goes smoothly and hopefully you find it
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to be fascinating and beneficial.
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So here's what we're going to do.
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I'm going to demonstrate to you the abilities of artificial
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intelligence to analyze a sermon within seconds and be able
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to point out some very specific things in sermons.
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So this is what I'm going to do.
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I'm gonna be going to the sermon audio website sermon
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audio dot com. I'm gonna click on the tab for sermons.
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Then i'm gonna click on the tab for newest sermons.
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I'm going to start choosing a sermon. I'm gonna choose
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a sermon randomly, and then I'm going to go to
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it where and then I'm gonna walk you through the process. Ultimately,
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i'm gonna download the transcript of that sermon and then
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i'm gonna upload that transcript to AI. I'm gonna ask
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AI to analyze it and look for specific things. Then
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when it's going to give me its analysis, and then
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I'm going to walk you through the analysis because i want.
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You to see how quickly AI.
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Can do this, and then you can determine what this
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means for preaching and sermons and the church moving forward.
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All right, this is awesome.
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So here's here's what I'm going to be utilizing. I
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have an iPad, so I'm going to be using the
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sermon audio website and iPad. I will download the sermon
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transcript to files.
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Then I'm going to.
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Open up chat GPT, upload the file to chat GPT,
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and then I'm going to ask it to look for
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very specific things.
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Then when when I'm going.
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To walk you through its response, then I may ask
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follow up questions or I may ask it to do
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something else. And I want you to just see how
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quickly it can do this and how I think transform.
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I mean, it's going to change, it should change everything.
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You may you may agree, but we're gonna see this now. Again,
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we're doing this in real time. I could have done
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all of this in advance and have it all ready
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to go, but that would defeat the purpose. The purpose here,
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I really believe Christian podcasters and the church we're going
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to have to You can try to fight it, you
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can try to push back.
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AI is here.
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It's not going away. It's not a fad. It's here
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to stay. You're just going to have to accept that.
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You can try to reject it. You can try to deny,
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you can try to push back, you can you can.
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It's here, So whether you can reject it or you
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can say, well, then what do we do with this?
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And here is one thing that can be done with it.
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And I don't know if a lot of preachers are
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going to necessarily like this. I think a lot of
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pastors are really going to hate this.
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All right, so are you ready? Here we go.
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So I'm going to first, I'm gonna unplug my iPad
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because I had it charging, because you know, my iPad
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was down to like, I don't know, five percent, So
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I've got it charged a little bit, so if I
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have to plug it back in, I will. So I'm
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going to sermonadio dot com. Sermonadio dot com. I'm tapping
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on sermons and I'm going gone to newest sermons. Now
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I'm gonna do a refresh here because I did have
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this open. Hang on, it's doing a refresh. Oh wow,
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and a bunch of sermons have already been added. Okay,
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so yeah, that's a whole lot of sermons just got uploaded.
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So I'm just gonna I'm gonna just go through this
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and see what we can find here.
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All right. Here's a walk to the wyse, A walk
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to the wise. I'm gonna click on it. A walk
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to the wyse.
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A walk filled with the spirit brings a life of joy, thanksgiving,
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peace with God. The biblical text is Ephesians five fifteen
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through twenty one.
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So I'm gonna come down here.
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Oh, they don't have the they don't have the transcript.
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Why do they not have their transcript availed? That's weird?
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Okay, hang on, I'm gonna do a refresher. I told
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you there was gonna be some technical glitches.
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Where is where is it? Well?
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Okay, hang on, Yeah that this is not working out
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exactly as I thought.
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Yeah, I don't know why they don't have the transcript there. Okay,
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so let me go back. I mean, don't all the
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messages have the transcript? Do they have that feature turned
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off or something?
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Okay, Sometimes you see churches not using the technology even
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available to them. Okay, here's here's one a little a
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little further farther, if I should speak correctly, Oh, this
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one has a transcript, all right, this one has no
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scripture reference given.
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See, it's okay.
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So here here's the first thing we're gonna have to Well,
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let's just go ahead and do this, all right. So
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this is funny, but it's very telling. One of the
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things I get sometimes frustrated about is how far behind
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churches can be when it comes to technology and when
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it comes to different things available to them. Right, churches
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can already create podcasts, They've been able to do that forever.
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Do they do that? No? Why not? I'll never understand. Right,
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even churches who are.
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On sermon audio, then in many cases they don't even
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use the features available. For example, how many times when
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you go to a live webcast you'll look and nobody's
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using the metadata. Why would you not fill out the metadata?
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It'll just say live webcasts use the metadata. Well, in
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many cases when you can fill out the information, and
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they do fill out the information, sometimes it'll be missing
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things like scripture reference are all kinds of things, or
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in some case that one sermon didn't have the transcript.
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Why does it not have the transcript? Feature? Going like?
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What happened there?
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What utilize everything? So this one is called a little farther.
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It looks like the scripture where it typically is, it's
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not there. So above it they have Matthew twenty six.
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So I'm assuming it's gonna be in Matthew twenty six.
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They do have the raw transcript. So here's what we're
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looking for. So if you want to look at it,
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I'm gonna I'm just.
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Gonna click over here. Yeah, that works better. Okay, a
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little further farther f A R T H E R.
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This is from Gospel Baptist Church.
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All right, so this is the first one we found.
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I wanted to do that walk to the Wyse. That
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that sounded interesting. The title caught my attention.
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Maybe we'll have to just do a review of that one.
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Okay, but a little farther go down here the raw
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transcript auto.
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So I'm gonna I'm gonna click on it. I click
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on it.
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Now the iPad is asking me do you want to
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download this transcript? And I want to hit download. Okay,
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it just downloaded the transcript. Now I'm gonna go here,
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all right, I'm going to I'm gonna go here. God
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give me one second. I'm gonna open up chat GPT. Okay,
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I'm going to chat GPT. Now what I'm going to
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do is I'm gonna hit the little plus symbol.
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I'm going to go to attached files.
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There is the transcript I downloaded at ten fourteen am.
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I'm gonna hit open all right, now I'm going to
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ask AI. Here's what I'm asking AI, So you know,
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you know exactly what I'm asking for. I'm asking AI
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analyze the following sermon, summarize it and outline any factual errors,
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philological errors or inconsistencies, logical fallacies, biblical and textual errors.
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List discussion questions and things for further study based on
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this sermon.
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Sound good.
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That's that's the prompt that I have created to ask
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AI to handle a particular sermon.
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Now I could ask it to do many other things
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with the sermon.
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But that's what I've chosen to ask it to do
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in this particular case for this live demonstration.
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All right, So here.
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We go, pressing the basically the inter button. All right,
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