April 4, 2025
Salem: Walcott
We return to Salem to hear the story of Mary Walcott
We return to Salem to hear the story of Mary Walcott
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Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is
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the Theology Central podcast making Theology Central. Good afternoon, everyone.
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It is Friday, April fourth, twenty twenty five. It is
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currently two twenty one pm Central Time, and I'm coming
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to you live from the Theology Central studio located right
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here in Abilene, Texas. Now, if you're watching the news
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right now, or if you've been looking about, you know,
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look looking at what's going on currently in the United
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States of America, maybe looking at the stock market, maybe
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looking at these things called tariffs. You may be like, wow,
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what is happening? And you may have strong opinions, and
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we're not here to get into all the political arguments
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and division, but you may be like, man, I'm worried,
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I'm concerned. I don't know what's happening. Things seem crazy,
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things seem out of control, and I would very much
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understand that. So what can I offer you today, Well,
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I can offer you a trip back to Salem, you know,
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back to a time when things well, when everything made
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sense and everything was wonderful, and everything was great, you know,
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back to the good old Okay, all right, we're going
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back to Salem and we're going to continue our journey
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through the Salem Witch Trials and obviously even going all
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the way back to sixteen ninety one, sixteen ninety two,
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sixteen ninety three. Guess what we find. We find that
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things were not wonderful or great. And to get a
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little bit philosophical here, maybe a little bit philological, because
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I think it's important. I think it is good to
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know this, and I was just mentioning this right before
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I went live on the air. I think this is
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very important for us to realize. It doesn't matter where
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you look in history. It doesn't matter if you go
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back to the sixteen hundreds, the fourteen hundreds, the six hundreds,
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it doesn't matter if you go bc AD. It doesn't
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matter where you go, what what era, whatever time. I
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know we always talk about the good old days, but
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when you go back, you find craziness, tragedy, fighting, arguing, division, evil,
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horrible things happening. Because it doesn't matter which era you go.
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You know what, you know, you know what the problem is.
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It's us. It's us. It's the fact that human beings
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populate this earth. And wherever you find human beings, you
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find pain, you find tragedy, you find suffering, you find evil.
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Sometimes that evil is done, sometimes that wrong. Sometimes that
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tragedy happens in the name of a country, or in
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the name of a political ideology, or in the name
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of a political leader. Sometimes it happens even in the
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name of God. It even happens within the church, because
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it doesn't matter in the church. Outside the church, we
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are all depraved sinners. Now that that still leaves me
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with lots of philosophical questions, But there is something I
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won't say comforting, but it is good to know that
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there's at least maybe an explanation that it doesn't matter
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if I'm looking at twenty twenty five or sixteen ninety two,
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I see horrible things happening. At least I can explain
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why people do horrible things and why horrible things happen,
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and why crazy things occur, and why there's pain, suffering,
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death and all the other it's because human beings are
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sinful and because we live in a fallen world. At
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least it offers maybe some kind of explanation. But we're
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going to take a trip back to Salem and just well,
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once again, we're going to be confronted with the fact
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that even back in the so called good old days,
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things weren't so good because what are we going to find.
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We're going to find human beings are going to find pain, suffering,
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and man, some just absolute craziness. Now, as I have
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been doing so, I'm going to continue the basic same structure.
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I'm going to do this as a narrative, like I'm
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telling a story. At least there'll be a couple of
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times I will just like all the time, I'll kind
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of leave the narrative, throw in some things weave back
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into the narrative. So far, I think the majority of
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people have appreciated this approach. It it changes things up
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a little bit. Now, if I really had, if I
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had the money and the team, that we could really
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produce this as a true narrative with sound effects and
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music and voiceovers and actors, and we could really really
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turn this into a very interesting production. I don't know
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why any podcast company hasn't decided to turn the Salem
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Witch Trials into a mass production of you know, broadcast.
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I don't know why they haven't. I mean, you really,
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there's so many stories that you could tell. So maybe
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maybe there was a good podcast company out there that
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would really our podcast network and say hey, let's get
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together the team and let's do this. We can do
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this in a a dramatic production telling the story of
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the Salem witch Trials, because I think, well, it's a
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story everyone needs to know. So are you ready to
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go back to Salem? Here we go? Are you ready?
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The last time on this podcast when we were talking
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about Salem, we followed the story of Mary Sibley, a
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woman who, in her desperation, turned to a bit of
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old folk magic to try to help the afflicted girls
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of Salem. Her decision to bake a witch cake and
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her public confession in church marked one of the earliest
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turning points and what would become just one of many
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dark chapters in American history. Does everyone remember the witch cake?
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Does everyone remember that story? Go back and listen to
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the witch cake crazy story. And Mary Sibley was the
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one who baked the witch cake and then she had
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to confess in church a lot, a lot of things
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and remember the sermon. Okay, there was a lot that
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we could talk about in that, but this is very important.
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Mary Sibley's story did not end with her repentance because
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standing nearby watching the collapse of control was her niece,
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A girl who would not confess, a girl who would
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not apologize, a girl who would speak then remain silent.
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This is the story of Mary Walcott, the niece, the accuser,
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and the woman who just walked away and walked away
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far better than many of the other accusers. Many walked
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away in a way far better than many of the
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other people involved in the Salem witch trials. Now we
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have to talk about her, now, okay, we have to
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talk about her name, because if you look at her name, Mary,
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that's easy. Her last name w A. L. Cott. Walcott.
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That's how I would say it. And if I remember correctly,
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and I've been to Salem and numerous you know, visiting
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numerous places there telling the story of what happened. When
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they mentioned her name Mary Walcott, almost all, I think
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almost every single person who mentioned her name stated it
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that way. However, most will say that that's an incorrect
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way of pronouncing it. It's like Walkett Walkett. Some may
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even say Walkett, but I think Walkett is how many
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would probably say, is the correct way. I cannot promise
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you that I'm gonna say Walkett. I have a tendency
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to say Walcott, all right, that's how I would tend
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to say it. I just want to make sure because
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i'll get an email saying you're saying it incorrectly, and
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I'm acknowledging if I say Walcott, that's probably incorrect, even
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though I think many in Salem say Walcott. But I
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think it's Walkett. Some I think walkit. I think that
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is incorrect. It's Walkett. I think is really the correct way.
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So I just want to make sure you know that
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it's spelled w A. L Cott. Walcott just looks the way.
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It just looks that way. But Walkette, I think is
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the correct way. Right. So just so that we get
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the name situation out of the way, so that I
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don't have to post a correction to my mispronunciations, which
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are frequent. Okay, So let's tell I'm going to read
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I'm gonna read it kind of the introduction again, but
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I wanted to just get that out of the way.
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So last time we followed the story of Mary Sibley,
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a woman who, in desperation, turned to a bit of
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old folk magic to help the afflicted girls of Salem.
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Her decision to make a witch cake, and her public
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confession in church marked one of the early turning points
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and what would become a dark chapter in American history.
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But Mary Sibley's story did not end with her repentance,
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because standing nearby watching the collapse of control, was her niece.
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A girl who would not confess, a girl who would
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not apologize, a girl who would not speak, and in
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some ways she remained silent forever about everything that occurred.
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This is the story of Mary Walkett, the niece, the accuser,
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and the woman who walked away. Mary Walkett was born
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in sixteen seventy five sixteen seventy five. She was the
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daughter of Captain Jonathan Walkett, a military leader and key
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figure in Salem Village. So just to note that her
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father is a military leader, he's a captain, is that
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puts her not as a servant, not as someone who's poor,
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someone who could be, you know, maybe engrave danger in
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certain ways. I mean, she's kind of you know, she's
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in a I guess a position of maybe power influence.
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She's in a good situation I think in some ways.
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But again, her father's name was Jonathan Walkett Walkett, a
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military leader and key figure in Salem Village. Her family
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was not marginal, I think that's the word I was
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looking for, or desperate. I think these are three things
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to know about the family. Influential, faithful, and well respected.
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So Mary Walkett come from a family that's very influential, faithful,
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and well respected. She was about seventeen years old in
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sixteen ninety two, living near the center of village life
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and intimately tied to the church. Her aunt, Mary Sibley
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was connected to Reverend Samuel Paris, and her household would
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have been one where theological talk, spiritual vigilance, and the
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threat of the devil was ever present. So just make
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sure you know Mary Walcott would have heard all of
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this discussion about the devil attacking this area. The devil
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is everywhere, the devil, the devil, the devil, the devil,
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the devil, there's a devil among you type of thing.
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She would have heard this kind of discussion been around.
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It would have been very intimate, had intimate knowledge of it. Now,
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Mary wasn't afflicted when the first fits broke out in
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the Paris household, but in a sense she was there, watching,
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listening and absorbing the fear. And when her aunt stood
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before the congregation and confess to ordering and baking a
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witch cake. Mary learned an important lesson. Even good in
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tensions could bring condemnation, even if you mean to do right,
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even if you were trying to help. It could lead
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you to being condemned. It could lead you to standing
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in front of the church confessing. It could lead you
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to being well, are you a devil? Is the devil
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working in you? Are you a witch? Not long not
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long after that moment, Mary Walkett herself now begins to
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exhibit signs of affliction, convulsions, outbursts, claims of invisible tormentors.
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She became one of the core group of girls whose
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testimony would steer the entire course of the Salem witch trials,
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because ultimately you get kind of a core group of
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these girls who make accusation after accusation after accusation after accusation.
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To sheer number by two or three of these girls
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is pretty staggering at how many people they accuse. And
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you got some just accusing everyone. You've got some who
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are very theatrical and their accusations. And we talked about
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we already talked about a number of these girls. So
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you know, she she sees all of this and the
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next thing, you know, well, she becomes well, she becomes
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a part in a sense of this core group. But
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unlike some of the other accusers, Mary wasn't impulsive or erratic.
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She seemed more methodical, more reliable, maybe some would even
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say more frequent in her accusations. She testified against more
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than a dozen people Rebecca nor A nurse. Me get
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the names right, Rebecca Nurse, Mary Esty, Sarah good Susannah Martin,
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John Bridget Bishop, and there was a lot more. I
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could list a lot of the people she accused, right, So,
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but she seemed much more in control, much more. Do
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you want to be saying guided? Do you want to
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be saying lead? I don't know clearly. Maybe because she's seventeen,
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she's more methodical. Maybe maybe she you know, not everyone
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could be dramatic and theatrical. It's almost like each one
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kind of took their own role and they kind of
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approached it in their own way, all right, which I
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guess would make some sense because everyone is different, or
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maybe that says a lot maybe about their motivations or
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what they were trying to do. But again, some of
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the so we went through those those names, and so
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just well, let's just look at one of them. One
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of the most heartbreaking episodes of the trials involved Rebecca Nurse.
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Because Rebecca Nurse would have been viewed as being a devout,
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elderly woman known for her charity, her wisdom, and her faith,
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many in Salem, even some judges, struggled to believe that
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she could be a witch. At one point, the jury
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even found her not guilty, only to reverse their decision
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under pressure. Hey, we don't find her guilty. Well, then
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all of a sudden pressure begins and they're like, well,
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you know, we've changed our minds kind of things. We'll
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tell the story of Rebecca Nurse and far more detail.
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And if you ever, it depends on which you where
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you go for the different memorials set up around Salem.
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in Salem, right, Like, there's a gate that kind of
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walks into the cemetery. Right outside the gate, you'll see
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these they're like stones. It almost looks like a bench,
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but it's made out of rock, right, And they're made
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out of rocks. And if you walk up to each one,
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