Sept. 26, 2024

Romans 8:10-11 Pt 3

Romans 8:10-11 Pt 3

We continue our survey of sermons on Romans 8:10-11

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We continue our survey of sermons on Romans 8:10-11

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Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is

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the Theology Central podcast making Theology Central. Welcome everyone. It

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is Wednesday, September the twenty fifth, twenty twenty four. It

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is currently five eighteen pm Central Time, and I am

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coming to you live from the Theology Central studio located

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right here in Abilene, Texas. Now, if you've been following

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our discussion about Romans chapter eight, if you've been following

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our discussion about the Six Secrets of the Christian Life,

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if you've been following all of this, you know that

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there are now two points I'm really really trying to emphasize.

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Now we can take we can take the points given

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by one perspective and how to answer the points I'm making.

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But right now, I just want you to remember these

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two points. Are you ready? Right here are two points.

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I want you to write them down, and I want

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you I want you to just stand your ground on

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these two points. When you discuss things with other Christians,

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they are going to maybe try to argue with you,

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but these are just like dogmatic things. There should be

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no compromise with this. This is this is just fundamental reality.

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Forget Christianity. This is just reality. Here's the reality. Are

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you ready? Number one, no one can keep God's law,

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Christian or non Christian. We cannot keep God's law. For

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proof of that, the scriptures and the Old Testament and

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the New Testament says, be ye holy as He is holy,

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you will never be as holy as God as holy.

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That is a commandment, that is a law. You never

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keep it. So you will never keep God's law. And

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then I can start adding additional laws. Love God with

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all your heart, mind, body, and soul, Love your neighbor

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as yourself, love your enemy turned the other cheek. I

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can just continue, continue, continue, do not come it, do

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not have a do not place anything before God, no idle.

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I mean, we can go on and on and on

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and on. Before you know it. You know that you

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never will obey God's law. So therefore number one, you

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will never keep God's law. No one can keep God's law.

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So number two, that means we are in a perpetual

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state of sin. Every single day you are sinning. You

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are a sinner, and you sin every single day because

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you are in constant disobedience to the law of God.

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All right, So number one, you cannot keep the law.

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Number two you're in a perpetual state of sin. I

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guess we could add a number three then, and the

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number three is more of a question, why then, why

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do you continue to sin? Why cannot why can you

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not be perfect? Why can you not be as holy

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as God? As holy? There's got to be a reason,

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And Christianity tries to offer some reason for why you

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continue to sin, right, But sometimes they seem to contradict

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themselves in giving their reason because Christianity, on one hand

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says you're a new creature to pass away. Everything's become new.

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So basically they kind of give the idea, you have

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a new heart, you have a new spirit, all of this,

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and the spirit gives you power, and the spirit does this,

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and the spirit does this. But at the same time

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they turn around and say, but you're going to continue

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to sind, Well, why am I continuing to sin? If

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I have a new heart, new nature and all of

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these things. They know, their answers are bizarre. So we

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looked at the one system that said, the reason you

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are going to continue to sind is even though you

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have a new heart, new nature, and new spirit, even

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though you've been completely transformed internally, you still have a

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dead body, and the dead body cannot respond to the

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internal new nature and the internal heart and the spirit.

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So then somehow you've got to wake your body up

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to be able to respond. And we've already seen how

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confusing that one is. We've listened to others and their

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way is just as confusing, so we've yet to get

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a good answer. In the last broadcast, we were reviewing

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a sermon on Romans chapter eight ten through eleven, which

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has become a key verse in this discussion in this

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particular case, mainly because the book Six Secrets of the

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Christian Life they utilize Romans eight ten through eleven as

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kind of their key text, at least for chapter one.

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So we're really kind of I mean, we're trying not

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to drown in all of this, trying to figure it out.

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But because of those truths I just started with those

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dogmatic truths, no one can keep God's law, Christian or

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non Christian. Therefore, we are in a perpetual state of sin,

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and therefore we need to ask the question why do

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we continue to sin? Why is the problem? But in

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light of that reality that we continue to sin, I

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want to begin this episode as and I'm going to

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be doing this over and over and over because the

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early Church reminds us, but they understood that we're always

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in sin. So we've been grabbing confessions of sin that

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was written in church history. And for this evening we're

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going to wear Yeah six, it's five twenty two pm,

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so late afternoon, early evening, we're going to read this one.

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Are you ready go? Oh Lord, no day of my

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life has passed that has not proven me guilty in

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your sight. I want you to hear those words again,

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Oh Lord, no day of my life has passed that

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has not proven me guilty in your sight. All things

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in me call for my rejection, All things in you

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call for my acceptance. Grant me to hear your voice

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assuring me that by your stripes I am healed, That

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you were bruised for my iniquities, That you have been

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made sin for me, that I might be righteousness righteous

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in you, That my grievous sins, my many sins, are

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all forgiven, buried in the ocean of your concealing blood.

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Keep me always clinging to your cross. Flood me every

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moment with descending grace. If we confess our sins, he

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is faithful and righteous, to forgive us our sins and

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to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. Let me read that

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confession again, all right, because I am more and more

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convinced that the evangelical world has lost its collective mind

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and everyone basically thinking that we I don't know that

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we're basically perfect. And if you commit a big sin

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and I guess somehow I don't know, it makes no sense.

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It's like Christians are unwilling to acknowledge the perpetual nature

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of the sin that we are in. But okay, I'm

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going to read this confession again. Oh Lord, no day

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of my life has passed that has not proven me

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guilty in your sight. All things in me call for

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my rejection. Everything inside of me calls for my rejection.

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God should reject me because of what's in me. Well,

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that means there's still corruption inside of me. All things

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in you call for my acceptance. Grant me to hear

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your voice assuring me that by your stripes I am healed.

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That's referencing to my sin. All right. You were bruised

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for my iniquity, that you were made. You have been

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made sin for me that I might be righteous. And

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you that my grievous sins, My many sins are all forgiven,

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buried in the ocean of your concealing blood. Keep me

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always clinging to your cross. Flood me every moment with

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descending grace. We need we need. You need to in

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the morning, you need to in the afternoon, you need

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to in the evening, and you need to at night.

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Have a specific time where you confess your sins to God.

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And this is not even about so that you'll be

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more spiritual. No, it's simply to humble you and remind

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you that whatever sin you point to, you're a sinner.

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Whatever sin you condemn, you're a sinner. It's to remind

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you that you are a sinner. We need that more

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than ever. And we got to stop with this nonsense

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of how Christians talk about no no, no, no, no

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no no. When you became saved, all the old is gone.

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Everything is new. You have a new heart, new everything,

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You have the spirit giving you power. Well, then why

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am I sinning? Someone explained this to me so far,

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the explanations and how Christians handle the reality of never

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ending sin and the life. Remember what I've said, the

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Christian life is a life of sin. That reality for

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some weird reason Christians do not truly want to acknowledge

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and accept. They will do so barely, but almost an

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immediately pivot and go no, no, no no. But as

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a Christian, and what have we heard now and the

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sermons that we have been reviewing, you can keep the law,

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you can keep the law. You can keep the law.

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Well.

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If you can, then that means you can be perfect

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because if you break one point in the law, you're

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guilty of all of it. So the only way to

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keep the law would be to keep all of it perfectly,

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because any violation of it means you're not keeping the law.

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You have to keep it perfectly or you're not keeping it.

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You can't keep the law five ways, and we'll say

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I'm keeping those laws. What doesn't matter. You're still guilty

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of the law because the law demands perfection and you

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can't be perfect. So I don't know why Christians are

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convinced that we can keep the law. It's bizarre. So, well,

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this is what we're going to do. We're going to

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go back to the sermon that we were reviewing. He's

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worked on Romans chapter eight, verse ten, and if Christ

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be in you, and he's really focusing on the fact

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that Christ is in you, and he's looking at that

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that that means the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit is

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in us. That's really what he's focusing on right now.

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The if Christ be in you, and he says, the

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Christ is in us via the Holy Spirit, So the

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Holy Spirit is inside every believer. That's really his focus,

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and he's now kind of summarizing all the things the

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Holy Spirit supposedly does being inside of us. And basically

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the I mean, I can just paraphrase. You may say

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I'm not being you may be saying I'm being a

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little bit hyperbolic, but I think this is a pretty

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accurate the way Christians describe it. The Holy Spirit's in you,

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and guess what he does. He gives you, leads you

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to all truth, so you should understand the Bible. He

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gives you power, so you should be able to overcome sin.

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He makes you holy, he makes you righteous, he sanctifies you.

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So basically you should know there should be no disagreement

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on theology because the Holy Spirit's supposedly giving us all

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the information and we basically should be perfect because we

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have the omnipotent Spirit of God dwelling inside of us,

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empowering us, cleansing us, and making us holy. But yet

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we've not really been given an explanation why then we

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continue to sin. Nobody's been able to give us a

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definitive explanation to that other than the well, the first

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thing we looked at was Lordship's answer, and that just

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basically says people aren't saved, and we already know all

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the problems with that. The second one we looked at,

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basically was the argument, well, all of that's true. You

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have all of that power, that life, all of that inside.

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The problem is your body can't respond to it. But

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then it doesn't explain how to get my body to

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respond to it. That one was all over the place

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as well. And then the sermons we've reviewed have they've

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just speaken so many circles that we really can't get anywhere.

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So we're going to go back to this. We're going

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to see if he goes a little further in the

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verse offers a little bit more information, and then we

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may look at some different ways of interpreting Romans chapter

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eight Versus five through say thirteen or fourteen. We may

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do a little bit of work here. We will see,

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I know it'll be a little disjointed, but it's all.

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If you've been listening, it all should fit together because

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these are things we have been discussing over and over

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and over and over and over again. Right here we go.

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It's law, as we've noted several times in previous sermons.

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But in short, the Holy Spirit is the person of

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the Godead who communicates all spiritual life and grace and

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sanctifying influence in our souls, uniting us to the Lord

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Jesus Christ our head. And he is the fulfillment in

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this life of that great covenant promise that God.

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Said, I will dwell in my people.

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That great covenant promise is in Ezequiel thirty six. And

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that's for Israel. Okay, remember the last episode. I lost

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my mind because once again people go to Ezequiel thirty six,

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even though Israel's mentioned over and over and over and

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over and over and over and over and over and

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over and over and over and over in the chapter,

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Israel doesn't mean Israel. Land doesn't mean land, nations don't

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mean nations. And then just somehow magically we kick Israel

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out of it. Hey, you guys, sorry, you all trash.

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all about us. I don't understand the hermoneutic there. It

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makes absolutely no sense. But all right, So, but just

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if you heard all of those things. Basically, the Holy

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Spirit's the We've got the power, man, We've got the power,

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so we should be perfect. So how can we have

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the omnipotent power of God making us holy but yet

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we can never be holy? How can the Holy Spirit?

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Fell like? You tell me that the Holy Spirit's inside

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of me to sanctify me and make me holy, but

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he cannot get me to holiness because holiness would be

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without sin, it would be separate from sin, it would

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be perfect. So the Holy Spirit's making me holy, but

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just can't get me there. So the omnipotent God is

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incapable of getting me to holiness. You say, well, you're

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stopping it. So the omnipotent God is stopped by me.

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And if the Spirit is in me and I have

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a new heart and a new nature, then what is convinced?

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What is getting me to stop the Holy Spirit? If

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I have a new nature and a new heart, why

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wouldn't my internal being be in agreement with what the

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spirit wants? The Spirit is inside of me. I supposedly

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have a new heart. I supposedly have a new nature.

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All three of those three things combined cannot get my

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want to to want to. The whole thing's broken.

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Now do we appreciate the blessedness of this brethren to

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have God the Spirit in dwell our souls and our bodies,

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That the God of heaven and Earth has taken up

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residence in the lights of us, that He's chosen us

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to be his home, his temple. This is an astounding reality,

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and his in dwelling is just the beginning, you see.

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It's the down payment. He's the guarantee that all that

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Christ has purchased for us, that in eternal inheritance and

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glory is going to be ours in due time.

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Now, I absolutely you believe the Holy Spirit is the

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down payment, per se the engagement ring, the whatever you

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want to say it, the guarantee, the Holy the seal

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like however you want to describe it. I do believe

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the Holy Spirit is there saying I. Basically I I

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I'll use I'll just use this term. I own this person,

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this person belongs to me, This person has been purchased,

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this this is I am here to show that this

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person belongs to God by an imputed righteousness. They've been

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declared righteous, they've been declared perfect because of imputed righteousness.

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I am here sealing them. I am here in dwelling them,

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and I am the guarantee that what they are positionally

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may not be what they are today, but I'm in

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dwelling them as the guarantee that they will become what

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they are positionally, because there will come a time where

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they will be completely glorified, and I'm the down payment

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of that. I do believe the Holy Spirit is in

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a sense of down payment, a guarantee, a seal of

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that fact. Everyone else wants to be the Holy Spirit's there,

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not just as a down payment, not just as a guarantee,

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not just to seal us, not just to ensure that

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as a guarantee of my eternal glorification. They always want

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the Holy Spirits actively doing a B, C, D, E, F,

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G H. Like they list all of these things the

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Holy Spirit is supposedly doing well. A Christianity at large

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has known there's something wrong, right. That's why a good

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certain portions of the Charismatic movement it was like, well,

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you have the Holy Spirit, but you need the baptism

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of the Holy Spirit. Or well, you have the Holy Spirit,

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but you need the filling of the Spirit, because just

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having the Spirit itself is not doing all of these things.

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So some will say, you have the spirit, but now

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you need the felling of it. You need the baptism

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of it, so that then you'll get the Holy Spirit

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to then do it all of these things. Because people

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look around and go, We'll wait a minute. There's all

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these people who are Christians. Well, that means they're endult

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by the Holy Spirit. But yet they sin. They sin,

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they sin, they send the sin. Why do they keep sinning?

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If the Holy Spirit's doing all things? Oh, okay, so

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then they move it well, because they need the filling

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of it, They need the bast then the Holy Spirit

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will do those things. But those people who move it

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to that the baptism or the filling, well, then the

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people who supposedly have been baptized and the Holy Spirit

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are filled with the Holy Spirit, they commit the same

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sins of the people who weren't. So Christianity is always

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trying to answer because we are so convinced that the

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Spirit is doing all of these things, but we lack

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the evidence of all these things supposedly being done, because

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again it makes absolutely no sense. If the Holy Spirit's

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doing all of these things, we should be perfect. So Christianity,

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I mean, I think christian history proves me, that proves

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out that at least Christianity at large. It's like, well,

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we got a problem here. We had a problem here

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because we keep claiming all of these things, but the

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reality is sin. And so everyone comes with their solution. Well, see,

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you need the baptism of the Holy Spirit, then it'll work.

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You need a feeling of the Holy Spirit, then it

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will work. Oh, you need a entire sanctification, you need

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another level of sanctification, then it will work. Everyone thinks

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that they have the answer to why it's happening. I think, well,

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we're trying to find an answer to maybe our complete

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misunderstanding of exactly how salvation works. But all right, let's

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see where this goes.

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He's the guarantee of every other spiritual blessing. We've been

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sealed with the Holy Spirit for our eternal inheritance. That's

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how important this is. But then notice also that the

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in dwelling of the Spirit is the infallible mark of

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all who know and belong to the Lord Jesus Christ. Again,

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back in Romans eight nine, it says that yes, you

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are in the spirit of Indeed, the spirit of Christ

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God dwells in you. Now, if anyone does not have

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the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. So

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that person doesn't belong to Christ if he doesn't possess

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the spirit of Christ. Now that's a categorical statement Paul

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Every true Christian, every true believer, every true.

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Child of God, without any exception, has the Holy Spirit,

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the Spirit of Christ, dwelling within him. The commentator John

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Stotts put it this way. He said, the hallmark of

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the authentic believer is the possession or in dwelling of

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the Holy Spirit. In dwelling sin is the lot of

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all of the children of Adam. But the privilege of

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the children of God is to have the in dwelling

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spirit to fight and subdue in dwelling sin.

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Okay, no, wait wait, wait, wait wait wait, Now we

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got to back up. So now we have in dwelling sin. Now,

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earlier we heard we have a new heart, everything's been

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changed on the inside. Now we're told that we have

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in dwelling sin. So we have the Holy Spirit fighting

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in dwelling sin. So, if the Holy Spirit is inside

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of you, fighting the in dwelling sin inside of you,

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why can't the Holy Spirit just when the Holy spirits,

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they're fighting the in dwelling sin, but the Holy Spirit

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just can't eliminate it. The Holy Spirit just can't defeat it.

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The in dwelling sin is obviously greater than the Holy Spirit,

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just by law logically following it to its conclusion. Right,

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why can you be perfect? No? Why can't you be

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perfect in dwelling sin?

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What is fighting that in dwelling sin? The Holy Spirit?

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But the Holy Spirit cannot get you to perfection? Well,

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if I can't get to perfection, then whatever is inside

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of me is keeping the Holy Spirit from getting me

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to perfection. That would be in dwelling sin. Do you

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see the the logical dilemma you walk yourself into. No

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one ever stops to think, think, Wait, wait a minute,

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so earlier the inside is completely made new. Now we're

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saying no, we have in dwelling sin. Can someone make

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up their mind? Do I have in dwelling sin? Or

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do I not? All right? I do? All right? I do,

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but I have the Holy Spirit to fight it okay, Well,

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then that should be an easy fight, you know, ding

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ding ding round one, boom, sin knocked out.

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I win.

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I mean I've got the Holy Spirit right, eternal, omnipotent God.

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Sin should be eradicated in two point three seconds, if

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even that instantaneously, the spirit should move in. Oh they're sin,

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I'm gonna fight it. You're good to go, now, go

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forth and be perfect. But it doesn't work that way.

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Why why is the spirit involved in an ongoing struggle

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with the sin inside of me? That makes no logical sense.

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So we go from in one sermon, how you have

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a new heart, you have a new soul, you have

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a new everything, everything's new in the inside to now no, no, no, no,

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wait wait wait wait wait wait, you still have in

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dwelling sin. So the indwelling sin where is it? Because

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it's not in my heart because you said have a

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new heart. It can't be in my nature because you

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said the nature is changed. So then where is the

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indwelling sin at? Now? Are we going to revert back

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to the in dwelling sin is in my physical body?

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But inside everything is good? Well, then how does the

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then it's not in? Now we get into this weird

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confused separating body and almost a little Gnostic idea throne,

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and it gets really this kind of a dualistic weirdness

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that nobody can really define. So I and one sermon,

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we've gone that everything on the inside is changed. Now

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no no, no, no, no, you still have in dwelling sin.

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But the Holy Spirit's there to fight it. Well, if

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the Holy Spirit's doing the fighting, then that means I'm

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not involved in it, right? Or does the Holy Spirit

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only fight it if I allow it to fight it? Well,

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then and then the Holy Spirit's not fighting in dwelling sin,

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it's fighting me. So then the Holy Spirit's getting defeated.

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Like all right, let's see if he offers any explanation.

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And this passage alone, just this statement alone exposes a

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number of serious errors, Beloved, It's clear from this passage

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that the popular teaching that the Holy Spirit the baptism

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of the Spirit, is what we would call a second blessing,

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and that some poor pathetic Christians miss out on that.

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That's wrong and that's misleading.

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Now, I completely agreed that the second blessing teaching is wrong.

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But why does the second blessing teaching exist? Because you

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look around, and you see Christians who sincerely believe in Jesus,

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and they sin, and they sin and they sin, and

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they appear weak, are apathetic or complacent, or as in

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First Corinthians chapter three, they look they're carnal, they're fleshly.

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There's fighting, there's division, there's backbiting, there's lust, there's sexual sin.

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What is wrong, Well, they need the second blessing. See

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that is just an attempt to address the reality. Now

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he's saying the second blessing teaching is wrong. I completely agree,

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But how is he going to address Earlier he made

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it sound like we don't have any endwellings and now

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we have a dwellings in the spirit is fighting the

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dwelling sin. But he didn't offer any explanation to that.

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Let's see what else he says, the other errors that

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we can learn or be warned about here.

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Where they tell us that you must have this estatic experience,

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and you must be able to speak in tongues, you

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must be able to pray in a secret language or

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perhaps prophesy.

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And if you're not able to do that, if you

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haven't had.

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That kind of experience of a quote baptism of the

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Spirit of God, you don't have the Spirit.

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What a horrible thing that is.

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That's terrible in misleading and discouraging to real Christians.

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Know, if you're a Christian.

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At all this morning, you possess the Spirit, and he

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dwells within you as much as he does in any

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other Christian.

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You see, there is no such thing as an elite.

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Class of Christians who have the Spirit while others do

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not have the Spirit. No, no, The Spirit's main work

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in a believer is not to give charismatic gifts, but

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to make us more and more like Christ.

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So the Holy spirits is to make you more and

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more like Christ. So, but he can never get us

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all the way there. Now again, you understand logically where

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this leads. If it's the Holy Spirit's job to make

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me more and more like Christ in any way, I'm

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not like Christ. It's the Holy Spirit's fault. Because the

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Holy Spirit's doing the work internally, I can't do that work. Now.

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I know Christians are gonna say, no, no, no, no, it's

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the Holy Spirit doing it. But you have to. Well,

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then if I have to, then it's not just the

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Holy Spirit doing it, then it's a synergistic idea. Well,

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then if it's a synergistic idea, you're telling me that

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I can overcome the will of the Spirit of God.

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I can overcome the will of God by simply saying

465
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I don't want to be like Christ. Well, why wouldn't

466
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the Holy Spirit? Since it's doing a work inside of me,

467
00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:02.920
why wouldn't the first work is to just make me

468
00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:06.359
want to be like Christ? Then the Holy Spirit would

469
00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:08.839
have my complete agreement because I want to be. And

470
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then how long does it take to get there? If

471
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I have the Holy Spirit for three years, why can't

472
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he get me to perfection in three years, two years,

473
00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:19.200
five years? How come there's Christians who've been saved for

474
00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:26.599
forty years who still sin. Well, because we all sin

475
00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:29.279
and we will all continue, you sin all the way

476
00:27:29.400 --> 00:27:34.359
until glorification. So maybe we are misunderstanding everything about this.

477
00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:40.960
We need to understand that truth and that reality.

478
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But it also does away with the idea.

479
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That we can be true Christians but not participate in

480
00:27:50.599 --> 00:27:55.440
the sanctifying work of the Spirit, that we can somehow

481
00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:58.200
belong to Christ, that we can be saved, we can

482
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be justified and ultimately go to Heaven, but remain unsanctified

483
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:06.559
and unchanged. That we can just go on in a

484
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life of sin.

485
00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:13.279
Oh, this is such. Do you hear the word the

486
00:28:13.359 --> 00:28:18.160
gaming played? Okay, look, this proves that you cannot be

487
00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:22.799
saved and not be sanctified. You just cannot continue in sin. Well,

488
00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:25.720
wait a minute, Wait a minute. No one keeps the

489
00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:28.839
law of God perfectly. So we're in a perpetual state

490
00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:33.079
of sin. That's why these confessions of confessions of sin

491
00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:37.680
throughout church history read like this. Oh Lord, no day

492
00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:40.359
of my life has passed that has not proven me

493
00:28:40.400 --> 00:28:44.160
guilty in your sight. The early Church knew that every

494
00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:47.799
single day we are sinners. So how can you say

495
00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:51.480
that you cannot be saved and continue in sin? Your

496
00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:55.680
entire life is continuation of sin, in sin, So I

497
00:28:55.720 --> 00:28:59.599
don't look. You have to redefine what sin is. Be holy?

498
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Is He is? Are you holy as He is holy?

499
00:29:01.799 --> 00:29:01.880
No?

500
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Is that a law? Yes? Is that a command?

501
00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:04.160
Yes?

502
00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:07.960
Are you disobeying it? Therefore you are in sin? Love

503
00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:09.480
God with all your heart, my body, and soul. Do

504
00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:11.519
you do that? No, that's a command. If you don't

505
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:15.559
do it, you are in sin. You're in a perpetual

506
00:29:15.559 --> 00:29:17.559
state of sin. So how can you say, Hey, what

507
00:29:17.599 --> 00:29:21.960
this passage teaches is that you cannot be saved and

508
00:29:21.960 --> 00:29:26.519
then continuance sin. No, if I cannot be saved and

509
00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:29.559
continuance sin. If you're telling me, if I continue in sin,

510
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:31.599
I cannot be saved, will state it that way. If

511
00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:34.440
I continue in sin, I cannot be saved. No one

512
00:29:35.119 --> 00:29:40.599
is saved. No one is saved. What you mean by

513
00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:44.079
that is that no one can continue in sin to

514
00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:51.000
some subjective standard and not be saved. You're just making

515
00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:53.599
it like well, and basically, if you really think about it,

516
00:29:53.599 --> 00:29:55.720
what you're saying is, if you want to be saved,

517
00:29:55.839 --> 00:30:01.799
you can't sin. How do How am I saved? Not

518
00:30:01.880 --> 00:30:04.240
based on the finished work of Jesus Christ, say I'm.

519
00:30:04.480 --> 00:30:08.599
What they're saying is my salvation is dependent on my sinlessness,

520
00:30:09.160 --> 00:30:11.839
not on the sinlessness of Jesus Christ. This is a

521
00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:15.279
complete rewriting of the gospel. This is not a salvation

522
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:18.799
by imputed righteousness. This is a salvation somehow determined by

523
00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:20.920
how much sin is my life. If you say I

524
00:30:21.039 --> 00:30:25.599
cannot be saved and continue in sin, then you've got

525
00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:29.720
to define exactly how much sin you identifies me as

526
00:30:29.759 --> 00:30:31.720
continuing sin. So I would just ask you a question.

527
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If you sin every single day from the moment of

528
00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:37.119
salvation until your death. Did you continue in sin? Any

529
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:40.359
logical person would say yes, well, then you're not saved. Therefore,

530
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:43.720
no one is saved, because every single person sins every

531
00:30:43.759 --> 00:30:46.440
single day and their entire Christian life. This is just

532
00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:55.000
I don't understand.

533
00:30:57.200 --> 00:30:59.200
Well, how can that be possible? Brethren?

534
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:02.160
You see, if I belong to Christ, if I have

535
00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:05.640
the Holy Spirit dwelling within me, he isn't dwelling in

536
00:31:05.720 --> 00:31:09.240
me for nothing. He's there to change us. He's there

537
00:31:09.279 --> 00:31:12.240
to sanctify us. He's there to cause us to become

538
00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:15.000
more like the Lord Jesus. He's there to convict me

539
00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:17.880
of my sin is. He's there to move me to pray.

540
00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:20.839
He's there to help me, to mortify my sins, to

541
00:31:20.880 --> 00:31:23.599
help me to be more and more obedient to God,

542
00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:30.480
and to transform me from the inside out, preparing us

543
00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:31.200
for heaven.

544
00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:37.119
I see, this is even more confounding. He's transforming me

545
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:40.079
from the inside out. You already earlier in this sermon

546
00:31:40.119 --> 00:31:44.240
said we were already transformed instantaneously at salvation because we

547
00:31:44.279 --> 00:31:47.000
had a new heart, new soul, new spirit, new nature,

548
00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:49.920
and that we're basically new creatures inside. Well, if all

549
00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:53.039
of that happened at salvation, what is he transforming? It's

550
00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:56.079
already been transformed. So could you make up your mind?

551
00:31:56.160 --> 00:31:58.680
Have I been transformed or am I being transformed? And

552
00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:00.680
if I'm in the process of being tree transformed, that

553
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:02.559
means I'm not all the way transformed, and that means

554
00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:04.359
there's still going to be sin. But you said I

555
00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:06.880
cannot continue to sin and be saved. Well, if I'm

556
00:32:06.920 --> 00:32:11.319
not completely transformed, I'm saying I'm still sinning. So therefore

557
00:32:11.359 --> 00:32:15.160
I'm continuing in sin. So either you can continue in sin,

558
00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:17.680
or you can't continue in sin, or you have to

559
00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:21.319
redefine what continuing in sin means. Hey, this has been

560
00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:23.279
the most This is once again where we're back with

561
00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:27.759
all the contradiction. You've been completely transformed on the inside,

562
00:32:27.920 --> 00:32:31.640
completely changed, new heart, new spirit, new nature. Everything has

563
00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:36.240
changed perfectly. Well, I mean you still have in dwelling sin. Well,

564
00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:38.799
the Holy Spirit's there to fight that. In dwelling sin well,

565
00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:41.720
I mean, now he's transforming you from the inside. Well,

566
00:32:41.720 --> 00:32:44.079
then if he's transforming me from the inside, then that

567
00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:47.000
means I wasn't transformed. So am I a new creature?

568
00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:50.000
I'm not a new creature. You say I'm a new creature,

569
00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:52.000
and then you say I'm becoming a new creature. Well

570
00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:54.319
are you saying that I'm a new creature only in

571
00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:57.440
my position, but I'm not new at all practically? Well no,

572
00:32:57.559 --> 00:33:00.920
you you've already denied that teaching. Then which is it?

573
00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:04.960
And then you say, if I continue in sin, I'm

574
00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:07.960
not saved. But then at the same time you say, well, God,

575
00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:12.200
the Holy Spirit's they're changing me. Well, if he's changing me,

576
00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:14.640
that means I'm not all the way changed. If I'm

577
00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:16.599
not all the way changed, that means I'm going to

578
00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:21.559
still be continuing to sin. So how can I not

579
00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:25.000
be changed being changed? Yet, if I continue in sin,

580
00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:28.720
I'm not saved because if I'm being changed, that means

581
00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:31.200
I'm not all the way changed, meaning they're still going

582
00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:33.839
to be sin. You've already said that there's a dwelling sin,

583
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:36.079
So how can there be in dwelling sin? Yet I

584
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:40.920
can't continue in sin. It's just it's just like words

585
00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:43.319
just thrown out there and people just sit in churches

586
00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:46.640
going Amen, Amen, this is good teaching. And again, if

587
00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:48.640
you stand in the parking lit say come here, dis

588
00:33:48.680 --> 00:33:52.240
got some questions exactly how does this work? They would

589
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:56.559
talk themselves into circles. They can't explain it. They what

590
00:33:56.599 --> 00:33:59.079
they have to acknowledge is, well, nobody can be perfect.

591
00:33:59.079 --> 00:34:03.759
And everyone continues to sin. That contradicts everything we just

592
00:34:03.799 --> 00:34:09.400
heard in this sermon. If I continue in sin, I'm

593
00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:12.800
not saved. But then he goes on to acknowledge that

594
00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:15.159
we're in the process of being transformed. Well, that means

595
00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:26.599
there still would be sin. I just kind of want

596
00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:28.360
to give up right here. I kind of want to

597
00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:29.679
just give up. But we've got to go a little

598
00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:35.480
bit further. We got to go good. I just don't understand.

599
00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:41.480
Talking in these circles drives me crazy. And look, this

600
00:34:41.559 --> 00:34:44.639
is not and this isn't again I stated it last time.

601
00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:49.599
I'm not criticizing this sermon, right because this is so standard,

602
00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:54.559
Like I've heard this same sermon nine thousand times, So

603
00:34:54.880 --> 00:34:58.440
I'm not criticizing this sermon. I'm criticizing all nine thousand

604
00:34:58.480 --> 00:35:00.480
sermons that I've heard that have said the the exact

605
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:03.199
same words, almost the exact same way. Because no one

606
00:35:03.239 --> 00:35:05.960
stops to go, wait a minute, none of this makes

607
00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:15.599
any sense. We're talking circles, We're contradicting ourselves. Let's see

608
00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:16.519
if it gets any better.

609
00:35:18.599 --> 00:35:19.400
And that's what he.

610
00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:23.079
Does in every soul that he dwells. And if I'm

611
00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:26.280
a real Christian, that's what he's doing in me. If

612
00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:29.559
anyone has not the spirit of Christ within him, he's

613
00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:35.880
not his. And so the question becomes do I have

614
00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:39.840
the spirit of Christ? Because this is an indelible mark

615
00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:45.079
of every true Christian. This is the mark of the Christian.

616
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:48.360
They talk about the mark on our foreheads. Well, this

617
00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:51.519
is the ceiling of the spirit, the Spirit of God

618
00:35:51.599 --> 00:35:56.320
dwelling in the believer, causing them to pursue holiness. That's

619
00:35:56.360 --> 00:35:58.239
what that mark is all about.

620
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:03.000
So does the Holy Spirit make us holy? Or does

621
00:36:03.039 --> 00:36:10.159
the Holy Spirit only cause us to pursue it? See,

622
00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:13.920
the language has to be precise. It's the Holy Spirit,

623
00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:17.800
the instrument, is the is the engine, is the a cause?

624
00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:21.199
Is the effective cause of me becoming holy? Or is

625
00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:23.800
it just says the Holy spiritual like, Okay, I'm now

626
00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:27.639
gonna motivate you to pursue it. Now. Wait, I've got

627
00:36:27.639 --> 00:36:30.199
to pursue it in a very dramatic way because if

628
00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:34.320
I'm if I'm continuing to sin, I'm not saved. But

629
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:36.840
if I'm pursuing holiness. That means I'm not yet there,

630
00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:41.119
meaning I'm gonna continue to sin. So then then is

631
00:36:41.159 --> 00:36:44.760
it like, well, you'll sin less, okay, So sinning less

632
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:51.119
is okay, it's so as long. And then you're gonna

633
00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:53.400
how are you gonna measure sinning less? You're gonna measure

634
00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:56.760
sinning less by measuring what someone's doing externally. But just

635
00:36:56.800 --> 00:37:00.239
because someone's not doing something externally doesn't mean they're sinning less.

636
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:02.920
That could be sinning now more internally. So none of

637
00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:09.559
that doesn't even answer any of these problems. I'm just

638
00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:11.800
gonna go a little bit, just a little bit further,

639
00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:14.239
and then I may circle back around here. I mean

640
00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:23.159
circle back around here to some discussion here, maybe about

641
00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:25.119
Romans eight. I don't know. We'll just go a little

642
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:27.320
bit further. I think at this point we're just going

643
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:30.559
to keep talking in circles. But I think he's he's

644
00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:32.559
not going to explain any of this. He's not going

645
00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:35.440
to try to there's not going to be any work

646
00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:37.639
on this. This is the problem with all the sermons.

647
00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:41.039
It's like they bought a commentary. Just get the basic

648
00:37:41.119 --> 00:37:44.119
comment you know, way it's supposed to be handled. Everyone

649
00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:47.440
just keeps repeating the same thing, and nobody will go,

650
00:37:47.480 --> 00:37:49.920
wait a minute, ladies and gentlemen, does any of this

651
00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:52.199
make any sense to it? Like I wish a passwords say,

652
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:54.320
does any of this actually make any sense? And I

653
00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:56.119
think everybody will like, well, not really. I don't know

654
00:37:56.159 --> 00:37:58.800
if I really understand exactly how this is supposed to work.

655
00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:03.400
I know this, you can say things from the pulpit

656
00:38:03.639 --> 00:38:06.519
and what the people will repeat back afterwards, You'll be like,

657
00:38:06.840 --> 00:38:09.400
I didn't preach that, and you'll go back and listen

658
00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:10.639
to the sermon. You almost want to go back to

659
00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:12.800
the people I didn't say that. I wonder what the

660
00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:15.400
people who hear these kinds of sermons actually think. I

661
00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:19.280
think they actually think then that somehow they basically can

662
00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:20.880
be perfect. I mean, I don't know how else you

663
00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:25.000
can interpret it any other way.

664
00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:29.360
So the first blessing that Paul points out here is

665
00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:30.559
not all Christians.

666
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:33.800
That all Christians.

667
00:38:33.400 --> 00:38:37.360
Enjoy the Holy Spirit of God in dwelling them. That's

668
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:42.320
our first blessing. Number two, they also enjoy the life

669
00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:46.079
of the Spirit of Life within them. Look at verse

670
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:50.039
ten again. And this is complicated. So you need to

671
00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:54.400
hang with me now. If the spirit of I'm sorry

672
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:58.639
if Christ is in you. The body is dead because

673
00:38:58.679 --> 00:39:04.480
of sin, but the spirit is life because of righteousness.

674
00:39:05.800 --> 00:39:07.760
So appreciate the contrast.

675
00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:11.719
Paul is making here between the mortality of our physical bodies.

676
00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:17.079
On the one hand, the body is dead, it's mortal,

677
00:39:17.719 --> 00:39:23.400
it's dying, it's frail. The spirit, which is life, lives

678
00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:25.639
because of righteousness.

679
00:39:25.679 --> 00:39:30.639
Now that's a complex idea, and I've in.

680
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:32.760
My mind gone over this and over this and over this,

681
00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:34.880
trying to make it as simple as I can. You're

682
00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:37.079
going to have to listen carefully, gird up the loins

683
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:40.800
of your mind to think through this statement. There are

684
00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:43.000
different ways to understand it. But I'm going to ask

685
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:45.079
three questions of the time. Let's try to make it easy.

686
00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:48.679
I'm going to ask three questions of our text and

687
00:39:48.760 --> 00:39:52.519
try to answer them all right. Number one question, what

688
00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:56.639
is the body, which Paul says is dead because of sin.

689
00:39:57.719 --> 00:40:02.280
That's the easy one to our physical humanity, our bodies.

690
00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:04.800
And we can be pretty certain of that because verse

691
00:40:04.800 --> 00:40:08.000
eleven speaks of our mortal bodies being resurrected one day

692
00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:10.920
at the resurrection. More of that in a minute. So

693
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Paul is simply setting the obvious that because of sin,

694
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our involvement in Adam, sin which brought death into the

695
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entire human race. Remember, God said to Adam and Eve,

696
00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:24.360
the day you eat of the forbidden fruit, you shall die,

697
00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:26.599
and you shall die. And they did, and they are

698
00:40:26.639 --> 00:40:29.599
and we are. And because of our own sin, our

699
00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:33.480
physical bodies are mortal. Our outward man is perishing every day.

700
00:40:33.559 --> 00:40:36.199
The principle of death is at work in our fallen

701
00:40:36.480 --> 00:40:41.480
human bodies. Martin Lloyd Jones said this, the moment we

702
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enter this world talk about babies. The moment we enter

703
00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:53.199
this world and begin to live, we also begin to die.

704
00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:54.320
That's true.

705
00:40:56.000 --> 00:41:00.320
And your first breath is one of the last you

706
00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:04.960
will ever take. That's a sobering thought, it is.

707
00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:07.159
But it's true, isn't it.

708
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:11.559
We're often reminded of this grim reality that we are

709
00:41:11.599 --> 00:41:15.800
physically mortal. Our bodies are because of sin, perishing to

710
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:18.000
the dust. We shall return.

711
00:41:18.920 --> 00:41:24.239
The wages of sin is death. In Adam, all die.

712
00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:26.760
Both spiritually and physically. Death is coming to each one

713
00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:29.480
of us, sooner or later. The body is dead. It's

714
00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:34.159
mortal because of sin. Now that's the easy part. Secondly,

715
00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:39.440
what is the spirit here? Which is life or lives.

716
00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:43.159
It's the Holy Is it the Holy Spirit of God

717
00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:47.440
in us? Or is it our spirit that's been renewed

718
00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:53.480
by the Spirit of God? And most commentators argue that

719
00:41:53.559 --> 00:41:56.400
it's the human soul or spirit which has been given

720
00:41:56.480 --> 00:42:00.239
life by the Holy Spirit, as in contrast to the

721
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:04.440
physical body, which is mortal. That's what a lot of

722
00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:08.960
commentators would teach us. But I personally agree with Professor

723
00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:12.480
John Murray and his wonderful commentary on Romans, who says

724
00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:17.079
in his commentary that Paul is stinking still of the

725
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:22.239
indwelling Holy Spirit who communicates the life of Christ to us.

726
00:42:23.239 --> 00:42:24.440
And his argument is.

727
00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:31.400
This, why would Paul use the term spirit in this context?

728
00:42:31.400 --> 00:42:35.079
And remember we talked about this back several weeks ago.

729
00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:39.000
They're like sixteen seventeen references to the Holy Spirit here

730
00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:42.039
in Romans eight, and there's several right here in this

731
00:42:42.159 --> 00:42:47.239
immediate context. So why would Paul use the term spirit

732
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:50.079
in this context? He says ten or twelve times that.

733
00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:55.039
I'm laughing because he's going to argue, hey, this is

734
00:42:55.039 --> 00:42:57.320
the Holy Spirit, because the Holy Spirit's been mentioned over

735
00:42:57.360 --> 00:42:59.440
and over and over in this chapter. But when he

736
00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:01.719
went to his qu thirty six even though Israel had

737
00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:03.599
been mentioned over and over and over and over, he

738
00:43:03.679 --> 00:43:06.199
made a verse about us, even though it's about Israel.

739
00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:11.199
But in it weird how we care about context sometimes

740
00:43:11.280 --> 00:43:15.159
and then other times we don't. Now, I do agree

741
00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:16.760
here that you can make a great argument that this

742
00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:21.320
is referring to the Holy Spirit. All right, So I'm

743
00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:23.920
not disagreeing here. Just find it funny that he's so

744
00:43:23.960 --> 00:43:28.119
worried about the context here, But he completely ignored that

745
00:43:28.360 --> 00:43:32.440
very same hermoneutical principle in Ezequel thirty six, obliterated Ezequl

746
00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:35.440
thirty six, ripped it, just cut it into shreds. So

747
00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:38.480
like it's so, I find that hilarious. But all right,

748
00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:40.719
let's see what he's going to say. I'm curious what

749
00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:43.320
he's going to do with the word righteous, so all right,

750
00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:46.559
and how he's going to unders say I do believe that, Yeah,

751
00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:50.360
my body is dying and dead and now I have life.

752
00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:52.599
Now everyone wants to say my spirit is alive, I

753
00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:54.960
have the Holy Spirit in me, and that we immediately

754
00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:58.880
try to make that mean, well, now I basically can

755
00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:01.280
be perfect. I just think it means now I have

756
00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:05.119
eternal life. I now have life in me. That when

757
00:44:05.159 --> 00:44:09.920
my body dies, I will live because I have eternal life.

758
00:44:09.960 --> 00:44:14.119
I have eternal life. Everyone wants to turn it into Well,

759
00:44:14.159 --> 00:44:16.920
now that I have this, then boom boom, I basically

760
00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:19.599
become a superhero. And we've already talked about all these problems.

761
00:44:19.639 --> 00:44:23.400
But let's see where he goes actually.

762
00:44:23.079 --> 00:44:26.960
More than that, to refer exclusively to the Holy Spirit

763
00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:30.800
and change the meaning here that is in this verse,

764
00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:36.880
in this one place, to our spirit. Now, that's a

765
00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:41.000
compelling argument, if you're following me. That's a compelling argument

766
00:44:41.159 --> 00:44:44.960
that he makes. In addition to that, the Holy Spirit

767
00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:48.119
is indeed the life giving spirit, is the spirit that

768
00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:52.039
gives life John six sixty three. He does bring life

769
00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:55.119
to us, and it's because the Holy Spirit dwells us

770
00:44:55.599 --> 00:44:57.559
that even when we died, and now think of this,

771
00:44:57.679 --> 00:45:03.559
even when we die physically, our souls remain spiritually alive.

772
00:45:03.760 --> 00:45:06.639
We are united to Christ by the Spirit of Christ.

773
00:45:06.679 --> 00:45:10.119
And because we have His spirit dwelling within us, we

774
00:45:10.199 --> 00:45:13.880
possess eternal life, the life of God in our soul.

775
00:45:13.960 --> 00:45:17.920
That guarantees we're going to live forever with Christ in heaven,

776
00:45:18.719 --> 00:45:22.360
even when our mortal bodies are decayed in the ground.

777
00:45:23.400 --> 00:45:26.559
That's the contrast Paul's making here. So I believe this

778
00:45:26.679 --> 00:45:30.599
is the Holy Spirit who lives within us, who communicates

779
00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:34.440
the life of God to us, so that spiritually speaking,

780
00:45:34.920 --> 00:45:38.199
we're alive to God now and that we will never

781
00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:41.800
die as Jesus says, we will pass instantly from death

782
00:45:41.920 --> 00:45:42.880
unto life.

783
00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:45.960
That's a glorious thought if you can get your head

784
00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:46.400
around it.

785
00:45:49.440 --> 00:45:51.760
But then question three, what does Paul mean when he

786
00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:57.360
says the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

787
00:45:57.480 --> 00:46:00.039
That's what he says, because of righteousness. Oh look, we're.

788
00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:04.639
Okay. Now, this is where I'm getting nervous. I think

789
00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:07.920
it's interesting that if the Holy Spirit is the thing

790
00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:12.800
that basically guarantees my eternal life and a lot of times, well,

791
00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:15.719
the Holy Spirit's there to do all of these other things. Well,

792
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:18.599
doing all the other things, Nobody can explain why it does,

793
00:46:18.840 --> 00:46:21.199
all the different problems with it. But it makes perfect

794
00:46:21.199 --> 00:46:23.719
sense that the Holy Spirit's in me to sell me

795
00:46:24.199 --> 00:46:26.840
until the day of redemption. And the Holy Spirit in

796
00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:30.840
me is basically the mark, the guarantee, it is the

797
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:35.639
source of my eternal life. All right, Then it makes

798
00:46:35.960 --> 00:46:37.880
then you can see what the Holy Spirit is doing

799
00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:40.199
other than all these supposed things the Holy Spirit is

800
00:46:40.199 --> 00:46:43.280
doing that no one can explain why it doesn't do

801
00:46:43.440 --> 00:46:46.599
what everyone says it's supposedly doing. That's where the problem is.

802
00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:49.760
So all right, now the righteous though, I'm nervous about

803
00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:51.719
this one. I'm nervous about this one. So let's see

804
00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:52.639
what he's going to do here.

805
00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:57.679
IY to deal with the text as the Holy Spirit

806
00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:01.639
lays it out here. So that's a long, complicated stuff.

807
00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:04.639
I said, Well, I didn't write it. The apostle Paul,

808
00:47:04.800 --> 00:47:07.239
under the inspiration of the Spirit of God wrote it,

809
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:10.360
but were required as preachers of God's word.

810
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:12.079
To open up what the Bible says.

811
00:47:13.159 --> 00:47:20.320
Okay, all right, I believe it means the spirit. We

812
00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:23.719
have the spirit of life because of righteousness. I believe

813
00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:27.400
it means that we possess the Holy Spirit, who is

814
00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:33.440
life and the life that he brings, and that life

815
00:47:33.639 --> 00:47:39.119
we have because of on account of the righteousness of Christ.

816
00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:42.119
It's not our righteousness.

817
00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:45.000
He wouldn't have said we have life because of our righteousness,

818
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:47.880
so he must be talking about another righteousness, the only

819
00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:50.320
other righteousness, And the whole Book of Romans is what

820
00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:57.480
the righteousness of Christ. In fact, that's the primary theme

821
00:47:57.559 --> 00:48:00.800
of the entire epistle of Romans really the righteousness of

822
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:04.239
Christ that becomes ours as believers, the perfect righteousness of

823
00:48:04.280 --> 00:48:07.559
God that Paul opens up so wonderfully in Romans three

824
00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:11.039
through five, that righteous life and righteous death of Christ,

825
00:48:11.079 --> 00:48:15.320
that the merits of which are imputed to us when

826
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:20.000
we believe the gospel, that it's because of the righteousness

827
00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:23.199
that we are given eternal life, and we are granted

828
00:48:23.239 --> 00:48:24.719
the Holy Spirit.

829
00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:31.400
Of Yes, the Holy Spirit is there because of imputed righteousness.

830
00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:35.400
So the Holy Spirit's not there because we are righteous

831
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:38.880
or unrighteous. So how does the Holy Spirit dwell there?

832
00:48:39.119 --> 00:48:42.719
He's there because he is there based off my positional

833
00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:47.320
standing before God, that I am declared perfectly righteous. So

834
00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:50.280
therefore the Spirit can dwell in me because I have

835
00:48:50.360 --> 00:48:55.920
been declared righteous Positionally, practically we know that I'm not.

836
00:48:56.280 --> 00:48:58.599
So how can the Holy Spirit be there? Because he's

837
00:48:58.639 --> 00:49:02.239
there because I've beenen I have been declared righteous by God,

838
00:49:02.760 --> 00:49:06.639
a forensic justification, a legal declaration.

839
00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:10.719
Of God.

840
00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:20.159
And so when Paul says in Romans that the Spirit

841
00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:27.000
is life because of righteousness, he's telling us that we

842
00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:33.440
are to trace the life giving activity and the indwelling

843
00:49:33.559 --> 00:49:38.320
presence of the Holy Spirit in us. Back to the

844
00:49:38.440 --> 00:49:42.840
righteousness of our savior, the Lord Jesus Christ. He has

845
00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:49.079
procured the Holy Spirit and his ministry within us and

846
00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:54.280
for us. It's on account of Christ's righteousness that we

847
00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:58.840
enjoy the life of the Spirit in our souls and

848
00:49:58.880 --> 00:50:03.760
that we possess the eternal life. That the Spirit communicates

849
00:50:04.119 --> 00:50:10.320
to us. Is because Jesus is perfectly righteous and impuges

850
00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:14.480
that righteousness to us, that we now are able to

851
00:50:14.639 --> 00:50:19.079
have the spirit of life within us that will carry

852
00:50:19.159 --> 00:50:21.639
us all the way to Heaven.

853
00:50:26.800 --> 00:50:29.599
But we save here the best for last, the promise.

854
00:50:31.880 --> 00:50:33.519
All right, we'll stop there. I love the fact that

855
00:50:33.559 --> 00:50:37.599
he mentioned imputation. I wish you would distinguish that between infused.

856
00:50:38.639 --> 00:50:41.800
We're not infused with a righteousness. The spirit is there

857
00:50:41.840 --> 00:50:44.800
because of an imputed righteousness. So therefore, but that means

858
00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:47.440
he's there not because I'm righteous. I'm not even being

859
00:50:47.480 --> 00:50:51.039
made righteous, and because I am still a sinner, the

860
00:50:51.079 --> 00:50:53.760
corruption is still there. Like the only problem with the

861
00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:58.000
sermon is it spoke two different realities and never explained

862
00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:00.719
the contradiction. Right, Hey, you've got a new heart, a

863
00:51:00.760 --> 00:51:04.079
new spirit, a new nature. Everything's been transformed, everything's been changed,

864
00:51:04.119 --> 00:51:06.519
you're completely new. But wait, wait, wait, wait wait, you

865
00:51:06.559 --> 00:51:09.239
still have in dwelling sin. Wait wait wait, the Holy

866
00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:11.440
Spirit's fighting that in dwelling say wait wait wait, the

867
00:51:11.480 --> 00:51:14.440
Holy Spirit's there to help you become more godly. But

868
00:51:14.519 --> 00:51:16.760
wait if you continue and say and you're not saved?

869
00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:18.920
What what?

870
00:51:23.760 --> 00:51:23.840
So?

871
00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:29.199
I wanted to get into Romans eight five and following,

872
00:51:29.639 --> 00:51:33.119
but we'll do that next time. I wanted to that

873
00:51:33.119 --> 00:51:35.880
at least finishes the review. We didn't finish the whole sermon.

874
00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:39.360
But you know, that's okay, that's okay. We're only supposed

875
00:51:39.360 --> 00:51:41.679
to be surveying, is trying to just hear the different

876
00:51:41.719 --> 00:51:46.039
positions on Romans eight ten through eleven. Right, there's still

877
00:51:46.079 --> 00:51:48.119
a lot of questions like and a lot of this

878
00:51:48.440 --> 00:51:51.960
we don't ever still really really have answers because it's

879
00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:57.280
so many, so much circular contradiction, that it's very difficult

880
00:51:57.320 --> 00:52:00.239
to know. So exactly what does this do? Exactly how

881
00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:05.199
does this work? Now? I'm going to end with how

882
00:52:05.239 --> 00:52:09.000
it began. These are the reality. And you can take

883
00:52:09.079 --> 00:52:11.440
all of that word salad, you can take all of that,

884
00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:14.760
but this is what you have to walk away remembering this.

885
00:52:15.159 --> 00:52:19.920
You cannot keep the Law of God. Even as a believer,

886
00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:23.239
you cannot the law says be holy as God is holy.

887
00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:25.599
You have never been that, you never will be that.

888
00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:28.800
You cannot be that. Therefore, right, so number one, you

889
00:52:28.840 --> 00:52:31.599
cannot keep the Law of God. Number two two, you

890
00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:35.400
are in a perpetual state of sin. Here's the law

891
00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:38.840
be perfect. You're not perfect. Therefore you're in a perpetual

892
00:52:38.840 --> 00:52:42.880
state of disobedience to the law. Whatever else anybody wants

893
00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:45.920
to say, whatever anybody else wants to claim, those claims

894
00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:48.480
mean nothing if they don't account with for the fact

895
00:52:48.519 --> 00:52:50.400
that you cannot keep the law and you're in a

896
00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:52.920
perpetual state of sin. And then number three, then the

897
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:56.719
obvious reason is why are you any perpetual state of sin?

898
00:52:56.840 --> 00:53:00.679
Why do you continue to sin? Considering the way Christianity

899
00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:04.519
sells all the things supposedly you have, which there's no

900
00:53:04.639 --> 00:53:07.440
explanation for where the sin is coming from. Because supposedly

901
00:53:07.440 --> 00:53:09.760
you have a new heart, new nature, all sin is gone,

902
00:53:09.920 --> 00:53:12.320
everything's great, you can keep the law. Supposedly you should

903
00:53:12.320 --> 00:53:14.199
be able to be one hundred percent perfect, even though

904
00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:16.800
Christians then will backtrack and say, well, you can't be perfect,

905
00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:18.920
But the way they sell it is you should be.

906
00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:24.360
But I know this. The early Church was completely convinced

907
00:53:24.480 --> 00:53:28.280
that we continue to sin even after conversion, and we

908
00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:30.679
are in a perpetual state of sin. Let me once

909
00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:33.960
again read the Confession of Sin for this evening, all right?

910
00:53:34.800 --> 00:53:39.760
And I basically I'm using the different quotes from the

911
00:53:39.840 --> 00:53:43.039
Church fathers and from different sources. This is in a

912
00:53:43.039 --> 00:53:45.880
book called Psalms and thirty Days, and for evening prayer

913
00:53:46.079 --> 00:53:48.199
they have the Confession of Sin. Every night has a

914
00:53:48.239 --> 00:53:53.519
confession of sin. Here we go, Oh Lord, no day

915
00:53:53.679 --> 00:53:57.000
of my life has passed that has not proven me

916
00:53:57.119 --> 00:54:03.400
guilty in your sight. All things in me call for

917
00:54:03.519 --> 00:54:06.199
my rejection. Everything inside of me calls from our rejection,

918
00:54:06.360 --> 00:54:10.639
meaning sin is still in me. All things in you

919
00:54:10.960 --> 00:54:14.719
call for my acceptance. Grant me to hear your voice

920
00:54:14.760 --> 00:54:18.320
assuring me that your stripes, by your stripes, I am healed.

921
00:54:18.480 --> 00:54:20.679
That you are bruised for my iniquities, That you have

922
00:54:20.719 --> 00:54:23.719
been made sin for me, that I might be righteous

923
00:54:23.880 --> 00:54:27.800
in you, That my grievous sins, my many sins, are

924
00:54:27.840 --> 00:54:30.920
all forgiven, buried in the ocean of your concealing blood.

925
00:54:31.239 --> 00:54:35.880
Keep me always clinging to your cross. Flood me every

926
00:54:36.039 --> 00:54:40.960
moment with descending grace. If we confess our sins, he

927
00:54:41.039 --> 00:54:43.960
is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and

928
00:54:44.039 --> 00:54:50.119
to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. You were sinning earlier today,

929
00:54:50.199 --> 00:54:53.199
you were sinning in the midday, You're still sinning in

930
00:54:53.239 --> 00:54:55.760
some way right now, and you'll be sinning all the

931
00:54:55.760 --> 00:54:57.920
way to the time you go to bed. We need

932
00:54:58.000 --> 00:55:03.039
to confess our sin mourning, afternoon, evening, and night, simply

933
00:55:03.079 --> 00:55:06.199
to remind us that we're in a perpetual state of sin.

934
00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:09.880
And all of these nonsensical things Christians try to say

935
00:55:09.920 --> 00:55:13.159
to deal with that reality are nonsensical and made up.

936
00:55:16.960 --> 00:55:22.079
All right, now, I'm gonna go downstairs. I'm gonna get

937
00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:24.400
something to drink, I'm gonna get a snack, and i'm

938
00:55:24.400 --> 00:55:28.639
gonna get ready for Indiana Fever playoff basketball, and probably

939
00:55:28.639 --> 00:55:30.719
in about an hour and a half two hours from now,

940
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I'm going to probably be very mad because my team

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is probably gonna get eliminated from the playoffs. You can

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say that's not very spiritual, and you may be very right.

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All right, I don't know what else to say. Thanks

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for listening, Have a great evening, God bless Yeah.