Aug. 1, 2024

Right In Your Eyes

Right In Your Eyes

A discussion about Proverbs 12:15

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A discussion about Proverbs 12:15

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Looking at our world from a theological perspective.

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This is the Theology Central podcast, making Theology Central.

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Good afternoon, everyone. It is Thursday, August the first, twenty

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twenty four. It is currently three forty three pm Central Time,

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and I am coming to you live from the Theology

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Central studio located right here in Abilene, Texas. Do you

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ever find yourself maybe spiritually and just kind of a

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I don't know what you would call it, kind of

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like you're you're in some kind of a fog, You're

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kind of in I don't know, like you're maybe you

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feel like you're in a rut. Maybe you just I

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don't know, you're just there's just something that doesn't feel

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exactly right. I don't really know how to describe it.

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I won't say depressed. I won't maybe discouraged, depressed, disillusioned, frustrated, cynical, irritated, bothered.

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I feel like I feel like that ever since now,

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if you've been, if you listen to everything we do,

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we all know that this really this was supposed to

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be in some ways kind of the Summer of Proverbs.

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We were going to kind of focus on proverbs throughout,

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you know, the Summer of twenty twenty four, and that

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took a radical turn and it really turned into the

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summer of Psalm eighty three, right, it really, it really did.

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I mean Psal eighty three became really I mean we've

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been focusing on that most of the summer, and not

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only did the the well, we're doing the Sermon's two

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point zero app sermon Challenge, So obviously we've been doing

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a lot of that, but I'm just saying that there

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was kind of a focus in my mind. We're going

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to do a lot of proverbs. I had kind of

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some things mapped out, but because we were doing the

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Sermon's two point oh app sermon Challenge. Remember I heard

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that message on SSAW eighty three, the coming Middle East War,

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and then the next thing, you know, that turned in

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that Well, the series is still I'm still working on

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Psaw eighty three. And the more I listened to that series,

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the more I listened to it, I'm just gonna be

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honest with you, the more frustrated I became, the more

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discouraged I got, the more irritated. And I'm not trying

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to say that to be mean or derogatory towards the

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ministry that started the series. I mean, in some ways,

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I'm grateful they've They've given me an entire summer of,

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you know, something to focus on. But the only problem

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is one the more I listened to them, I mean,

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I was starting to lose my mind by the time

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that thing ended. I'm so glad they moved on to

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some I think they moved on to some one nineteen.

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I'm so glad because it was just maddening. And I guess,

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I guess what happened. Look, I'm just I'm gonna be

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full transparency. I think what happened is, how can I

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say this is gonna be This is gonna be very fleshly,

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all right, This is not gonna be godly in any way,

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shape or form. This is going to be very worldly,

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all right, This is going to be very fleshly. But

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I think maybe, well, I know all Christians, I think

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all Christians in your spiritual life, you have your ups

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and downs, right, you find times where you just find

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yourself discouraged, depress, maybe kind of in a fog like

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I don't know how to describe it, but I think

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you could probably understand what I'm trying to say. But

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here's I think here's what happened to me at least,

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I'm just kind of processing this in real time. This

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is like my counseling session, right, So we'll get to

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where we're going. But I think this is important subject

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to have, a topic to have, right, So here's what

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happened to me. And I know this is gonna sound

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so ungodly. Absolutely, this is gonna sound so ungodly. That's

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gonna sound like a pity party and whoa whoae is me?

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And there's gonna be a little bit of that. So

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but I'm not I'm not telling you this to excuse it.

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I'm telling you this to be transparent. What do I

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always say that this podcast is a podcast simply of

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a center with a microphone. That's it. And I'm trying

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to figure out the Christian life just like you are, right,

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So I don't come across it. Hopefully hopefully that comes across.

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I try to be that way. But the Psalm eighty

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three series, especially the original sermon series that you know

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we were reviewing, I became so irritated the more I

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listened to it. And the reason I became so frustrated

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is on, wait a minute, okay, so let me get

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this right. Here's a ministry that is you know, they

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have a radio station, they have a large church, they

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have a lot of people listening, they have decent, very

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good numbers of the number of downloads and streams. From

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a human perspective, they would be seen as successful. And

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I listened to that series, and this is one of

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those times where I'm like, why what is it about?

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This is insane. They're talking about things that have nothing

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to do with Psaumity three. This is not an exegetical look.

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They're saying things that are just completely wrong, fraudulent, things

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that are just not true. I mean just I mean

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everything that could be wrong in the series was wrong

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in the series. Yet they are successful. That's what people want.

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And then I turn around and look at my situation.

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And I told you the end of twenty twenty three,

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the twenty twenty four was going to be a difficult

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year for me. I told everyone that. And so I

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look at my situation. Well, the church is basically, for

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all practical purposes over or waiting for the building to sell.

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Once that's done, that's done. Well, then I have to

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figure out what do I do with the podcast once

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the building is gone. This is no longer connected to

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a church? Then how do I do this? How do

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I work this? It's not like I'm going to be

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making any money from the podcast. So if I'm not

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going to make any money from the podcast, then do

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I try to continue to raise money to pay for this? Okay?

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How do I work all of this? Okay? Yeah? And

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then do I even want to do this? Because at

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that point you kind of feel like a failure, right

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or the church ended your podcasts. I mean, you do

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pretty good numbers, but I mean you know you're not

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what are you really accomplishing? But then then you go

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listen to these other messages and you're like, that's what

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people want, and you're like, well, I can't be that.

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They're saying things that are like no, I don't want

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to be that, and you're like, well, if that's what

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people want, then I have no place. I have no

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place at the table like you, just like you you can.

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Maybe we should not compare in contrast, but you do.

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When you're listening to other ministries, you're like, look at

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the numbers. Look at how many numbers they have, Look

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at how many people listen to them, Look at all

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the comments they get, look at the money they bring in.

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Look at this, look at that. You know, I get

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emails from ministries all the time asking for you know,

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hundreds of thousands of dollars, and they they raise the money.

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And then you go listen, going, what are they providing?

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If that's what people want? I could never bring myself

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to do that. So then do I even have any

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is there even any even a place for me? Like,

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what's the point? Just just give up? So then you

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just kind of get discouraged. So and so then, uh

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so I think the Saw eighty three series really started

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messing with me. Then as we got further into Saw

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Maity three, well then I had to start, you know,

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considering and questioning how most Christians and most churches teach

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about prayer. And I had to really confront that so

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much of what people teach about prayer has nothing to

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do with theology, is being driven by emotion, It's almost

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being driven by a religious superstition. It's not really philologically.

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And so then I'm I'm questioning how most churches teach

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about prayer. Well, then, well then I don't even belong

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in that conversation, right, I don't even belong. And then

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yesterday we're talking about absolute surrender, and I'm like, well,

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I don't even and I'm questioned, challenged that understanding, and

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put forth an idea that ninety nine percent of Christianity rejected.

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I'm like, well, I don't even fit in there. And

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then don't even get me started in all the political

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stuff that's been going on in churches, I don't fit

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in there. And I'm like, well, I don't fit in anywhere. Now,

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on one hand, I'm glad I don't fit in anywhere.

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I don't. I like the fact that I'm like, I'm

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offering something different, but if there's no real audience for it,

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no one really cares. And all these other ministries that

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are doing things, in some cases putting out messages filled

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with factual error, historical error, just absolute lies about the

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meaning of a Greek word or Hebrew or trying to

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say the word means this, or that the word is

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synonymous with this word. Remember the subject the messages we

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did on repentance, where they're saying these words are synonymous. No,

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they're completely different Hebrew words with completely different meanings. That's

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utterly factually wrong. And so you didn't you just like,

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why I don't want to be have to spend my

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life being like I have no It's like almost like

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I'm the outsider, and it's like, what's the point. That's

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what everyone wants. I can't give everyone what they want?

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But is there room for someone offering a contrary voice?

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I hope so? And so then you just kind of

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get well, obviously, and I will admit this from a

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human perspective, my way is a failure. My way is

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the wrong way. Like I can write a book on

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how to not be successful in ministry from a human perspective.

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So then yesterday we talked a little bit about this, right,

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what does it actually mean to be used by God?

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Because Jeremiah Isaiah? But see then is that not self serving?

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Well?

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See, I'm like Jeremiah, I'm like Isaiah. So I'm really

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doing it the godly way. I'm doing it the godly

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way because nobody likes me, everyone disagrees with me, everyone

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ignores me. I'm in the right. And I'm like, well,

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that's self serving, and that can venient that I happen

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to choose the biblical people who fit my situation and

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then find that I'm right. I mean, isn't that what

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we have a tendency to do don't don't When it

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comes to Christianity, don't we all think that we are right?

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Isn't that really the essence of Christianity? We all think

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we are right, and we can point out how other

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people are wrong. Now, in some cases it's really a

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matter of facts, and so when someone get facts wrong,

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that's not a matter about me thinking I'm right in

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my own eyes. Now we're dealing with facts. But outside

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of that, so much of Christianity is everyone believes that

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they are right. Everyone believes they are right. Everyone does.

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Lutherans think that they're right, Presbyterians think that they're right.

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Church of Christ think that they're right, Charismatics think that

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they're right. One is, Pentecostals think that they're right, Baptists

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think that they're right, Reform Baptists think that they're right,

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Millennialists think they're right. Pre millennialists think that they're right.

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Postmillennialists think that they're right. We can go on and

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on and on. Everyone thinks they are right, and they

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would They will never say, well, it's not that I

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think that I'm right in my own eyes, but I'm

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right according to the Bible. But then I'm like, but

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that other person is holding up the same Bible you're

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holding up, and they think that the Bible says something

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opposite of what you're saying. So is it that the

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Bible proves that you're right? Or is it that you

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think you're right in your own eyes and you simply

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go to the Bible to prove that you're right and

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the Bible simply becomes proof text for what you already believe. Well,

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then is it really the Bible the authority? Is that

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you the authority, But we all think we're right in

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our own eyes. There's no way to get around that.

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Everyone thinks that they're right everyone, which then only becomes

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more discouraging and more depressing. Remember, one of the things

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I constantly struggle with in the world of Christianity is

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how can everyone think they're right and we can't agree

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on anything. Doesn't that just bring you to the point

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of just saying you want to throw up your hands

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and say forget it, be gone, just be gone. I'm

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done with it all. I don't care about doctrine, I

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don't care about theology, I don't care about any of it.

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everyone thinks that they're theologians. Doesn't matter if you go

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to school, don't go to school, it doesn't matter. It's

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just a waste of time. It's vanity of vanities, meaningless, meaningless, meaningless.

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Maybe that's where I reach at some point. And sometimes

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the more I know you sit here behind the microphone,

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the more you can reach that point of just total

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frustration and despair. And I guess that's kind of where

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I've been a little bit now. Circumstances here not all

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has interfered greatly with being able to do live broadcast,

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like what do I do? What do I do? So

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of in this fog trying to figure it out because

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sometimes I look around, I'm like, I don't think I

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fit in in Christianity anymore. I just don't think. I

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don't know where Christianity is going. I'm not a part

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of it. It's it's it's this weird world of I

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don't know what it is anymore. It's like it feels

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odd being outside of the very thing you've dedicated your

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life too, because my entire life has been pursuing a

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religious education, philological education, degrees in biblical study, all the

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things that I've done, and sometimes you're like, well, it

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doesn't matter. So it kind of all of that kind

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of fits what we're going to be talking about. So

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a little while ago, I was like, Okay, I've got

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I not record? I'm like, well, I don't know, I

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don't know. I don't know. And on one of my

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podcast apps, Overcast, because Overcast they finally fixed it. They

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I was happy. So I've been trying to use it

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throughout the day, and I have the podcast broken down

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into different categories. I have all the podcasts that I

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that's a lot of the news podcasts that updates multiple

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times a day. Then I have one that's like sermonaudio,

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so all the sermon audio things that are in my

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I can get it there as well. And then I

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have one I think called Christian Podcast. I think I

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have one called Sermons. I have all these different categories.

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So I'm like, well, let me go to the Christian

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podcast because I have a lot of like devotional ones

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in there. So I was going through and I clicked

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gonna I'm not gonna. I'm gonna remove this one because

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I subscribe to it. And then I'm like, I don't

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like this one. They just grab like six seven verses

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and they just read them and they just connect them

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and there's no real explanation to w I'm like, I

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delete this one. Well, then I moved. I moved to

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another one, and I'm like, oh, this is interesting. It's Proverbs, okay,

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Proverbs Summer, the Summer of Proverbs. Okay, we can at

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least go back and do some work on that since

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we've been trying to do that. And then I noticed

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that it was based off Proverbs fourteen fifteen. The way

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of a fool is right in his own eyes, but

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he who heeds counsel is wise. The way of a

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fool is right in his own eyes. The way of

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a fool is right in his own eyes. Now I

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can remember as a young Christian this is a verse

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you sometimes would use an evangelism right where you would

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try to explain to someone, Hey, you may think you're right,

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you may think, you may think, but the fool thinks

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he is right in his own eyes. Your way is

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because you're blinded to the truth and you think you're

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right in your own eyes. We always applied it to

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other people. We always apply it to the world, to

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the ungodly. See, they're foolish and they think they're right

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in their own eyes. And so when whenever Christians hear

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the world makes some kind of argument, it could be

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anybody making an ary, we'll see the fool thinks he's

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right in his own eyes. We always point to everyone

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else and go, they're the fool and they think they're

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right in their own eyes, but I know they're wrong.

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that they think they're right in their own eyes and

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they are full, aren't you then inevitably saying well, you

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were right in your own eyes. Now I know what

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Christians will say, No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I

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am saying I'm right based off the word of God.

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the word of God says. So isn't it reality? Christians

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are walking around doing the exact same thing, and we're

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all saying that we're right in our own eyes? Are

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we not just as foolish? Amen? Or oh me? I

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don't know. So I was like, well, that may lead

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me to more discouragement and more depression, but let me

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at least listen to what they had to say. It's short,

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I'm kind of struggling, not knowing what to do. I

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know what I'll do. Let's just grab the audio and

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we'll do a quick review. Now, five to seven minutes

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can be an hour long in review. But let's just

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see where they Let's see which direction they go. Let's

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see which direction they go. But I think you've kind

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of already see how I'm going to challenge this the

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way of the fool right in his own eyes. Whoever

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thinks they're wrong in their own eyes. Now, Christians may

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admit at the beginning, when they become a Christian that

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they're wrong in their own eyes, but then immediately they

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go from the wrong team to the right team, and

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now they're right always in their own eyes. I think

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we always think we're right. Now. Obviously, did I say

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Psalms Proverbs? If I said Psalms, I apologize Proverbs twelve fifteen.

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It is a contrasting proverb. It is a contrast. So

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we will look at that contrast. But for me, I'm like,

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you know, the fool is right in his own eyes.

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All right, Okay, what do we do here? How do

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we approach this? So let's see where they go, and

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then we'll just see where I go. Most likely I'll

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end up in a radically different place then they go.

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Hopefully that'll be beneficial to someone.

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Here we go, Hey, my friends, it is time for

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the morning mindset, and I hope you are preparing yourself

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that you're ready to get your mind aligned with the

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truth of God's word. You know, there's this silly, little

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funny little thing that people say sometimes about teenagers. They'll

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say things like this. They'll say, man, you can't tell

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my son anything because he already knows everything. And it's

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a little cutting to say something like that. But what

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they're expressing when they say that is that there is

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a tendency for those who are youthful, those who are

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not as experienced, to think, as they're learning things in

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the world that they really know a lot, and to

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assess the things that the older people are saying with

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some skepticism and.

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With all right, well, immediately this is off to an

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interesting start. It is true that sometimes parents will say

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that to teenagers, you can't tell them anything because they

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think they know everything. But I don't think that applies

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to teenagers. That to me sounds like Christians. You can't

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tell them anything because they think they know everything. You

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can't challenge them on anything because they know everything. In

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the minute you challenge them on anything, they're the ones

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who will tell you everything about you that is wrong. Okay,

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don't you think that? I mean? I mean again, the

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essence of Christianity is we are right and everyone else

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is wrong. And not only is everyone who's not a

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Christian wrong, well, most of the people who are Christians

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are wrong because all of their denominations are wrong, and

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their theology is wrong, and their confessions of faith is

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wrong and their interpretations are wrong. So ultimately I am right,

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Which then does that not sound like the full is

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right in his own eyes? How do how do we

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navigate them? Let's see where they go with this.

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Some criticism, because they just feel as a young person

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they really see a lot more clearly than all these

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old folks around them. Well, today we're going to be

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looking at Proverbs twelve fifteen. And the reason we're looking

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there is because we're in this series called Wise among Fools,

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and we're wanting to learn the way of wisdom. And

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today it has to do with that dynamic that I

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described at the first and it's sadly not only teenagers

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that it applies to. We're going to get into that

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in just a moment. Before we do, I'm going to

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remind you coming up on Friday is our Prey Together episode.

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This is an episode where you submit your prayer requests

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and I pray for them. It really is that simple.

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But it's not just me praying for them. It's a

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lot of other people who are listening in, hearing the

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needs and praying along with me. Thousands of people that join.

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Would you like to have your consideration or your situation

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prayed for by.

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Now that brings up our entire discussion about prayer. Hey,

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send me your prayer, right, I mean you could just

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give it to God, but send me your request to me,

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and then I'll have me pray for you, and then

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we'll have thousands of other people pray for you. Now,

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does your prayer requests have a greater chance of being

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answered because it's prayed by a podcast or prayed for

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by a podcaster, or prayed for by a thousand people?

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Is God like, Hey, I was gonna intervene, but you

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know Oh wait wait wait wait, wait, wait, wait wait

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a podcaster is praying for it. I'm gonna do something.

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Oh wait wait wait a thousand people are praying for it. Well,

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now I have to do something. Now, this again goes

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to do you believe whatever your request is, you're probably

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asking prayer for something God either allowed, did nothing to

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change or actually decrete it, and then has worked it

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to work out exactly that way according to his providence.

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So now are we going to pray against what God is? Tone?

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Are you?

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Now? He gets all confusing, But let's not get into that.

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I think that already makes me more frustrated. And depressed

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as it is, because I know that's so contrary, but

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I well, I guess what frustrates me is the questions

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I'm asking about prayer is really the question every Christian

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and every church should be asking about prayer. But it

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appears you're not really supposed to ask those questions about

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prayer or you will offend a whole lot of people.

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But let's let's see where he goes here.

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Thousands of people, please go to Morningmindsetmedia dot com slash

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prayer and submit your request. You will be able to

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find that link in the description for this episode as well,

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so swipe on over there, tap the link, and go

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to that page. Okay, friends, time for us to pray

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as we look toward learning God's wisdom. Lord, God, we

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want you to help us learn how to not be

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the one who thinks we are always right, but rather

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to be one who's in learning mode. Show us how

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to be that person today in Jesus' name.

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Amen. Now I do love at least the spirit of

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that prayer. Hey, God, help me not think that I'm

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always right and be in learning mode. I don't want

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to always think I'm right. I want to be in

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learning mode. Now, which describes you more? Do you always

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think you're right? Are you in learning mode? Come on,

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which one? Which one? Do you always think you're right?

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Are you? Are you someone who is humble and teachable

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and always in learning mode? I really want you to

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consider that today. What do you think now? If you've

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got people in your home right now, right, if you're

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a woman and your husband is in the house, please

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go ask your husband right now, Hey, honey, do you

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think I am I think I'm always right? Or do

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you think I'm always in a learning mode? And see

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what the answer? Then go ask your kids. And then

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if you're at work, you can Hey, you can ask

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your coworkers. Hey, hey, guys, everyone in the office, come

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here for a second. I need to ask you a question.

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Do you think I think I'm always right? Or do

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you think I'm always in the learning mode? And then

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when you go to church on Sunday you can ask

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everyone to church, Hey, guys, do you think that I

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think I'm always right? Or do you think I'm in

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learning mode? Now? I would argue that ninety nine point

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nine percent of people who know me, well, I'm gonna, okay,

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I'm gonna this is maybe self serving ninety nine percent

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of the people who think they know me, because I

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don't think anyone does. But I think most people, a

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lot of people think they do. I think they would

460
00:25:47.599 --> 00:25:51.440
all accuse me. You always think you are right, You're

461
00:25:51.559 --> 00:25:53.599
never in learning mode. I think that's how I would

462
00:25:53.640 --> 00:25:56.559
be perceived. I think that that's how people would would

463
00:25:57.039 --> 00:26:01.319
classify me. And because I think because I am very

464
00:26:01.400 --> 00:26:05.599
quick too, I'm very quick to confront. I am not

465
00:26:05.720 --> 00:26:10.480
afraid of confrontation. I will definitely engage, I will definitely challenge.

466
00:26:10.759 --> 00:26:14.319
I will definitely argue back. And I got no problem

467
00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:19.880
calling something out. If it's fraudulent, half truth, conspiratorial, based

468
00:26:19.920 --> 00:26:22.400
on nothing, I got no problem calling it. So I

469
00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:25.119
think I have the reputation of always thinking I'm right.

470
00:26:25.839 --> 00:26:28.559
I would argue that if you look at my Christian

471
00:26:28.640 --> 00:26:32.000
life clearly, even when I think I'm right, when I

472
00:26:32.039 --> 00:26:37.000
am presented a counter argument, I will immediately, even though

473
00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:39.880
I may argue against it, will at the same time

474
00:26:39.960 --> 00:26:43.880
walk away and consider the counter argument, and if need be,

475
00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:46.119
come back and say, well I was I wrong? Do

476
00:26:46.200 --> 00:26:48.079
I think I was wrong? Well? What about this? What

477
00:26:48.160 --> 00:26:50.680
about that? What I will? And I got no problem

478
00:26:50.799 --> 00:26:55.440
changing my doctrinal beliefs and my beliefs about how to

479
00:26:55.480 --> 00:26:58.519
interpret a text. So in one hand, I would argue,

480
00:26:58.599 --> 00:27:01.000
I think I'm teachable, but I think I would be

481
00:27:01.079 --> 00:27:04.319
perceived as always thinking I'm right. Now that the argument

482
00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:06.880
could be, well, why who? If everyone perceives you to

483
00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:09.680
be that way, maybe they're right. Maybe you can't see it.

484
00:27:09.759 --> 00:27:13.240
Maybe this is an example where you think you're right

485
00:27:13.279 --> 00:27:15.960
in your own eyes because you want to see yourself

486
00:27:16.000 --> 00:27:18.960
as being teachable, But maybe the reality is you aren't

487
00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:22.359
very teachable. Can you even trust how you perceive yourself?

488
00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:24.640
I don't know, but I do like at least the

489
00:27:24.640 --> 00:27:29.279
spirit of it, because I would hope, deep down I

490
00:27:29.400 --> 00:27:32.799
want to be teachable. I always want to be in

491
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:40.920
learning mode. I do, I truly, truly do. But I

492
00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:43.960
think our default is we always think we're right, don't we.

493
00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:47.880
I mean put it this way in some ways, if

494
00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:50.519
you think about this, logically, you always think you're right,

495
00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:54.279
because if you thought you were wrong, you would immediately

496
00:27:54.359 --> 00:27:56.640
change your view and then think you're right. So are

497
00:27:56.720 --> 00:27:58.880
we always, in a sense, in a perpetual state of

498
00:27:58.920 --> 00:28:01.640
thinking we're right. If you thought you were wrong about everything,

499
00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:03.640
you would change your view and as soon as you

500
00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:05.880
change your view, then you would think you were right.

501
00:28:06.079 --> 00:28:12.400
So in some ways, don't we always think we're right? Maybe?

502
00:28:14.759 --> 00:28:18.319
Okay, friends? Proverbs Chapter twelve, verse fifteen is where we

503
00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:21.599
are today. Here's how it reads. It says, the way

504
00:28:21.640 --> 00:28:26.480
of the fool is right in his own eyes, but

505
00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:32.400
a wise man listens to advice. Okay, Now here we

506
00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:36.160
have a contrast. Again, one person does it this way,

507
00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:40.039
another person does it this way.

508
00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:43.319
All right, so we do have a contrast, and I

509
00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:45.839
think sometimes the contrast has left out a lot of

510
00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:49.880
the quotes of this verse. Right, the full the way

511
00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:52.240
of the fool is right in his own eyes. The

512
00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:55.079
fool thinks he's right in his own eyes, but the

513
00:28:55.119 --> 00:28:58.039
wise man is the one who he eats, counsel or

514
00:28:58.279 --> 00:29:03.160
he listens to advice. Now, I don't know. I think

515
00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:08.279
maybe really the main contrast here is own his own eyes,

516
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:11.400
like he thinks he's right within himself, where the wise

517
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:22.119
person seeks information and advice and counsel outside of himself. Right.

518
00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:25.000
I think we see this a lot of times on

519
00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:28.200
social media. There'll be some hey, this is going on,

520
00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:30.359
and then you and you'll look at all the comments

521
00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:32.839
and everybody's like this this, and you'll and sometimes you're

522
00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:35.680
like whoa woa, everyone stop, stop stop, Here are the

523
00:29:35.720 --> 00:29:39.680
facts you didn't read the actual here, and nobody will listen.

524
00:29:39.720 --> 00:29:41.960
Nobody will listen, and they just keep arguing, you don't

525
00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:44.880
know what you're talking about. No, I literally have the facts.

526
00:29:44.920 --> 00:29:47.599
You did not read the article. It's right there in

527
00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:51.839
the third paragraph. Go read the article. No, you're and

528
00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:55.079
and so I think that to me, the contrast is

529
00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:59.400
thinking you're right in your own eyes, meaning you think

530
00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:04.880
you're right with in yourself, versus the person who doesn't

531
00:30:05.039 --> 00:30:08.720
assume I think they're right within themselves. They always seek

532
00:30:09.079 --> 00:30:15.720
external information. They seek external sources other than themselves. In

533
00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:17.799
other words, they're not going to think they're right just

534
00:30:17.880 --> 00:30:20.279
immediately by reading a headline. They're going to read the

535
00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:23.279
entire article. Then they may look up five to six

536
00:30:23.400 --> 00:30:28.000
seven reports on the same thing before they draw a conclusion.

537
00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:35.640
How quick do you form an opinion or not even opinion,

538
00:30:35.720 --> 00:30:39.519
How quick do you form a conclusion then argue for

539
00:30:39.599 --> 00:30:43.720
that conclusion? But you did very very very very very

540
00:30:43.880 --> 00:30:49.759
very very little actual research or study. Now, at one

541
00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:52.720
point in my ministry, because of the way I teach,

542
00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:57.039
the way I teach encourages this, but it encourages people

543
00:30:57.079 --> 00:30:59.519
to speak up in the middle of my teaching. It

544
00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:02.759
encourage just people to ask a question. Now, because I

545
00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:05.359
like to be I like people to be engaged, So

546
00:31:05.440 --> 00:31:08.359
I like that teaching. But it's kind of a double

547
00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:12.079
edged sword because for most part, many people will be like, Okay,

548
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:16.599
they will participate, they will answer, they will engage, and

549
00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:19.640
they know they have enough self control to go well

550
00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:21.759
if they disagree, They're not going to just interrupt a

551
00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:24.640
sermon to start fighting. You know, they'll wait till after

552
00:31:24.759 --> 00:31:29.240
to discuss it. But inevitably, well, at least in the past,

553
00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:31.920
not currently, but in the past, there would be times.

554
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:35.480
These are rare occurrences. But at one point it got

555
00:31:35.519 --> 00:31:38.799
bad enough that I had to address it with the church.

556
00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:42.160
It started getting so bad that that there were people

557
00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:45.759
who would start arguing with me almost in every sermon.

558
00:31:46.160 --> 00:31:49.880
It would be like, argue, argue, argue, argue, argue, And

559
00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:52.119
I'm like, I'm trying to preach a sermon and they're

560
00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:55.200
arguing with me in the middle of the sermon, and

561
00:31:55.799 --> 00:31:58.319
so I started getting really frustrated. So I finally had

562
00:31:58.319 --> 00:32:02.039
to basically say, look, here's the thing you may be right,

563
00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:08.599
you obviously think you're right, but you stop interrupting the

564
00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:11.200
sermon to argue with me. And here's the thing, I'm

565
00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:14.319
not even going to engage your argument. I'm not even

566
00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:17.720
going to listen to your argument until you demonstrate that

567
00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:23.279
you've actually studied the thing you're arguing about. Right, And

568
00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:25.440
so in almost every case you hear me, I still

569
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:27.480
do this today. A lot of times you'll hear me

570
00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:30.359
in a sermon. I'll say, Okay, look, you need to

571
00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:32.000
look this up and do this, and do this, and

572
00:32:32.039 --> 00:32:33.480
do this, and do this and do that, and I'm

573
00:32:33.519 --> 00:32:35.240
not even going to listen to your argument until you

574
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:38.200
do this. Now, some people think that that's very like, wow,

575
00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:41.559
that's very authoritarian, and that's almost being a tyrant. No,

576
00:32:41.799 --> 00:32:44.880
the argument is my My perspective is, look, if you

577
00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:47.039
want to if like, if you want to argue over

578
00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:49.680
you want to argue with me over the identity of

579
00:32:49.799 --> 00:32:52.440
Israel and who Israel? Is is it spiritual Israel, is

580
00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:54.759
it national Israel? Is it the Church? Well, then when

581
00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:58.000
you can demonstrate that you have looked up every use

582
00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:00.839
of the word Israel in the Bible and you have

583
00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:03.920
written down how to understand it. Then then when you

584
00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:06.200
have done that, we can sit down and you can

585
00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:09.039
take give me the verses that you think then proves

586
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:11.640
Israel is an Israel, and I will then look at

587
00:33:11.640 --> 00:33:14.039
how many you came up with versus how many times

588
00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:16.200
it's used, and then we can have an argument. If

589
00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:18.359
you're going to tell me that in the Old Testament

590
00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:22.240
when it's giving prophecies, well that's not actually Israel, that's

591
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:26.160
not actual land. That's the Well, then then we're gonna

592
00:33:26.160 --> 00:33:28.359
have to are there some things you're gonna have to

593
00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:30.640
look up and you're gonna have to actually study. I

594
00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:33.839
think that's because look, if you if you're not doing

595
00:33:33.920 --> 00:33:36.039
the study, then you just think you're right in your

596
00:33:36.039 --> 00:33:38.400
own eyes based off what you've heard or based off

597
00:33:38.440 --> 00:33:41.720
something you've read, you're not actually engaged in study. Well

598
00:33:41.720 --> 00:33:46.279
that's a full the foolst thinks is right in his

599
00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:51.240
own eyes without doing any actual study. The wise one

600
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:53.920
is the one who seeks advice or seeks counsel, meaning

601
00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:59.720
looking to external things outside of themselves, checking this fact checking,

602
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:09.519
checking multiple sources, doing the work. So I had to

603
00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:11.480
kind of put an end to it. And so and

604
00:34:11.519 --> 00:34:13.079
a lot of the people who would argue with me.

605
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:15.480
Guess what, I would give them the assignment. They would

606
00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:18.039
never come back with the assignment. They wouldn't do the

607
00:34:18.079 --> 00:34:20.440
assignment and still tell me that I'm wrong, and then

608
00:34:20.519 --> 00:34:23.199
ultimately would leave the church. And they would leave the church,

609
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:26.599
never approaching me with their notebook. I'm going to reach

610
00:34:26.599 --> 00:34:29.360
over here and grab a notebook. They would never show

611
00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:31.719
up and say, here's my notebook, here's all the work

612
00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:34.440
I did. This work proves that you're an idiot. You

613
00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:37.039
don't know what you're talking about. I'm still leaving the church,

614
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:40.280
but here's my notebook because I did the work. No

615
00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:42.320
no one, No one ever came back with the work book.

616
00:34:42.360 --> 00:34:44.360
No one ever came back with their notes because they

617
00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:46.679
weren't going to actually engage in the study. They would

618
00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:48.599
just tell me that I'm wrong, leave the church, and

619
00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:53.360
talk trash about me behind my back. Well, congratulations, that's

620
00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:58.480
that's wonderful. And if they didn't talk trash behind my back,

621
00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:02.039
the point is they without actually engaging the state, they

622
00:35:02.039 --> 00:35:04.039
walked away thinking they're right. But they're right in their

623
00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:06.840
own eyes, because how can you think you're right if

624
00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:11.719
you're not even going to engage in the actual study

625
00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:16.239
and I talked at the beginning some of my frustration,

626
00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:19.199
especially with that series on Psalm eighty three. Some of

627
00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:22.880
the things said was just like factually, no, that's not

628
00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:28.280
that country today. That's just not true. No, that's not true.

629
00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:31.199
Even the thing about repentance. No, you said these words

630
00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:35.239
are synonymous. They're not synonymous. They're different Hebrew words. What

631
00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:36.039
are you doing?

632
00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:36.480
Like?

633
00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:41.800
Some of it was just utterly like just literally factual error.

634
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:47.480
And you're kind of like I, but they think they're

635
00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:51.760
right based off what I don't know, not based off

636
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:59.239
actually engaging any meaningful sources. How quick are you to

637
00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:01.119
think you're right? And how quick are you to go, well,

638
00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:02.360
wait a minut, wait a mint, Wait a minute, wait

639
00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:03.760
a mint, wait a minute, wait a minut, wait a minute,

640
00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:06.360
wait a minute. Okay, let me let me check this

641
00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:08.960
and let me check this, Let me verify this, let

642
00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:12.800
me verify this, let me verify this, let me verify this. Now.

643
00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:15.280
We're always going to be wrong to some level. So

644
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:19.280
we just to me from you. If you think about

645
00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:23.440
the who we are as human beings from a thilological perspective,

646
00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:27.679
we as human beings. I know many Christians don't believe this,

647
00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:30.400
but we still have a sinful nature, and that sinful

648
00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:33.880
nature is deceitful above all things. If I've got a

649
00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:38.800
deceit factory working twenty four hours a day, seven days

650
00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:43.400
a week inside of me, you have a deceit factory

651
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:48.360
producing deceit inside of you. And guess what that deceit

652
00:36:48.440 --> 00:36:52.159
factory deceives. It deceives you. So if you've got something

653
00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:55.159
inside of you that is deceitful, that is leading you

654
00:36:55.239 --> 00:36:58.480
to deceive yourself, then how can you ever trust yourself

655
00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:03.239
that you're ever truly right? But we don't ever seem

656
00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:08.639
that paranoid, that maybe when I think I'm right, I'm

657
00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:15.280
just being deceived by the deceit factory working inside of me. Right,

658
00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:16.360
Let's see where he goes.

659
00:37:17.880 --> 00:37:21.519
Proverbs are often written in that format, and he's saying,

660
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:24.800
the fool is one who thinks he is right, He

661
00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:28.119
thinks he has the way to do something. He thinks

662
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:32.199
he is the one who sees clearly. He says, that person,

663
00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:35.119
if that is a pattern in their lives and they

664
00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:40.519
always come across that way, they are a fool. Say

665
00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:46.760
it with me, fool, fool, fool. That person really has

666
00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:49.320
no hope for themselves because They're never going to learn

667
00:37:49.719 --> 00:37:52.360
from someone else. They're never going to learn from circumstances.

668
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:55.920
They're just going to be convinced that they are the

669
00:37:55.920 --> 00:37:57.199
ones who have insight.

670
00:37:58.320 --> 00:38:03.519
Now the contrast, and see, to me, that sounds like Christianity,

671
00:38:03.559 --> 00:38:06.320
that sounds like all of us. We think we're right.

672
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:09.159
We think we're right all the time. And not only

673
00:38:09.159 --> 00:38:11.239
do we think we're right, we think we're right because

674
00:38:11.239 --> 00:38:15.119
we would say, God says that I'm right, God agrees

675
00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:18.920
with me. I have God on my side, so clearly

676
00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:21.800
I'm right. But is it that I have God on

677
00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:23.719
my side? Or is that I'm right in my own eyes?

678
00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:26.159
And because I'm right in my own eyes, then I

679
00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:28.760
convince myself, because I'm right in my own eyes, that

680
00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:32.079
the Bible agrees with me. Therefore God agrees with me.

681
00:38:33.119 --> 00:38:37.039
Is God just? And you know, a means to an end.

682
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:39.639
I think i'm right. I look to the Bible. The

683
00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:43.400
Bible says that I'm right, Therefore I'm right. But is

684
00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:45.320
it the Bible really saying you're right? Or is that

685
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:47.519
you reading that you're right into the Bible?

686
00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:58.719
Is that? A wise man listens to advice? Now? What

687
00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:03.320
is advice? Well, it's when someone else looking at your

688
00:39:03.360 --> 00:39:07.320
situation says to you, you know, I really think you

689
00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:11.880
should do blank, and then they give you some action

690
00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:14.679
or some suggestion that.

691
00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:19.280
But how do you know the advice you're getting is

692
00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:22.039
you're not getting advice from someone who thinks that they're

693
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:26.960
right in their own eyes. I know I'm playing devil's

694
00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:29.400
advocate here, but I mean, hey, hey, the wise one

695
00:39:29.480 --> 00:39:32.679
will seek advice, but you're seeking advice from someone who

696
00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:34.639
thinks that they're right. But maybe they think they're right

697
00:39:34.679 --> 00:39:37.920
in their own eyes, so that they their perspective is

698
00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:42.920
no better than your perspective. It's just different than your perspective.

699
00:39:49.559 --> 00:39:51.320
Can we trust that anyone is right?

700
00:39:54.679 --> 00:39:58.480
My friends? Is advice, and of course advice is not

701
00:39:58.760 --> 00:40:03.239
always right. But the point the writer of Proverbs is

702
00:40:03.280 --> 00:40:06.920
making here is that a foolish person never listens to advice.

703
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:11.559
They don't even consider that the other person or other

704
00:40:11.639 --> 00:40:16.440
people around might have wisdom that they don't have. You see,

705
00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:19.679
what the writer is actually telling us here is that

706
00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:23.599
there are two vantage points from which we can view

707
00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:27.079
the world. One is a vantage point of pride and

708
00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:32.559
arrogance that thinks we are smart, we have all the

709
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:35.760
insight that we need, and the other is a vantage

710
00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:40.840
point of humility that recognizes I don't have all the answers.

711
00:40:41.039 --> 00:40:44.199
In fact, other people probably know a lot more than

712
00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:46.639
I do, and they can bless me and benefit me

713
00:40:47.679 --> 00:40:52.440
by sharing what they know. Friends, The way of a

714
00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:56.639
fool is right in his own eyes, But a wise

715
00:40:56.679 --> 00:41:00.280
man listens to advice. Which are you going to be?

716
00:41:01.320 --> 00:41:05.320
Which do you want to be? You really have that decision.

717
00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:08.000
You can make that change by the power of God's

718
00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:12.880
spirit as he leads you and convicts you of being

719
00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:15.480
the one who perhaps thinks too highly of yourself.

720
00:41:18.199 --> 00:41:20.159
Oh boy, I'm not gonna you already know where I'm

721
00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:22.400
gonna go with this. Oh so, now we've got the

722
00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:25.079
power of God. If God is leading me, then how

723
00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:27.000
would I ever think that I'm right in my own eyes?

724
00:41:27.079 --> 00:41:32.559
If God is the one leading me? Oh man, uh, okay,

725
00:41:33.960 --> 00:41:37.159
that stuff drives me absolutely crazy. Okay, here's the way

726
00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:40.360
I'm going to approach this. The way of the fool

727
00:41:40.440 --> 00:41:45.360
is right in his own eyes. He is self contained,

728
00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:50.559
self sufficient unit in and of himself. He perceives himself

729
00:41:50.599 --> 00:41:54.800
to be self contained, almost like an echo chamber within

730
00:41:54.840 --> 00:41:58.960
a little bubble of self self self, self, self, I

731
00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:01.480
think this, I think that, I think this. I think this,

732
00:42:01.719 --> 00:42:04.559
and I'm not looking anywhere else. And they don't really consider.

733
00:42:04.760 --> 00:42:07.599
They don't study, they don't verify, they don't look at

734
00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:11.639
various sources. They will not check. They think they are right.

735
00:42:11.800 --> 00:42:14.320
I've told I've told a story a thousand times. I'll

736
00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:15.880
tell it one more time because to me, it's one

737
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:19.480
of the best examples of this. All right, So I

738
00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:24.880
had purchased a commentary on First John by James Montgomery Boys.

739
00:42:26.199 --> 00:42:30.480
And in that commentary, in First John, James Montgomery Boys

740
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:32.679
points out that there's a passage that in First John

741
00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:35.719
where there's like there's two or three witnesses, and and

742
00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:38.599
and it kind of mentions these things that sounds like

743
00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:42.719
maybe an argument for the trinity, like a Trinitarian formula. Right,

744
00:42:43.239 --> 00:42:45.280
I think it's I think it's First John five. If

745
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:48.360
I remember correctly, I could probably look here. I could.

746
00:42:48.559 --> 00:42:50.679
It's not that it's super important. And I don't even

747
00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:52.599
I think it's only in the King James. I don't

748
00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:54.039
even think it's in the New King James, which I

749
00:42:54.119 --> 00:42:56.760
have right here in front of me. Let me see

750
00:42:56.760 --> 00:43:00.519
here if I can find it. Because most of the

751
00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:05.840
manuscripts don't have it. There most I think most don't

752
00:43:05.840 --> 00:43:09.760
have it. I think it's first John five. See here,

753
00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:13.039
I think it is. Yeah, it goes something like this.

754
00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:16.639
This is he who came by water and blood, Jesus Christ.

755
00:43:16.719 --> 00:43:19.400
Not only by water, but water and blood. And it

756
00:43:19.480 --> 00:43:22.079
is the Spirit who bears witness, because the Spirit is truth.

757
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:24.679
For there are three that bear witness in heaven, the Father,

758
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:27.639
the Word, and the Holy Spirit. And these three are

759
00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:34.320
one all right now. Immediately when you look down, it

760
00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:39.920
says that that certain text omit the words you see

761
00:43:39.960 --> 00:43:43.440
from heaven. That's verse four. Only four or five very

762
00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:48.440
late manuscripts contains these words and verse seven. So there's

763
00:43:48.559 --> 00:43:52.119
a bunch of textual issues here. So I think it

764
00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:55.800
was James Montgomery Voice's commentary who called into question whether

765
00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:57.559
this should be in the Bible or not in the Bible,

766
00:43:57.599 --> 00:43:59.320
or this should be removed? Should it not be there?

767
00:43:59.320 --> 00:43:59.880
Should it not be?

768
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:00.760
And it was.

769
00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:03.960
Presenting an argument. Well I'd never heard the argument before, right,

770
00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:06.400
And I was like, whoa wait a minute, so are

771
00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:08.320
you saying these verses may not belong in the Bible.

772
00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:11.199
Suck the idea with the woman caught in adultery many

773
00:44:11.199 --> 00:44:13.800
people believe it's the most famous story that doesn't belong

774
00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:17.000
in the Bible, because there's a manuscript, there's textual issues,

775
00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:21.239
textual variants. So I was like, I was kind of like, WHOA.

776
00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:23.519
So I had read it and I marked it and

777
00:44:23.559 --> 00:44:25.800
I highlighted it, and I took it to church, and

778
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:28.360
I said, and so it was after church, or maybe

779
00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:31.159
in before church. I'm like, hey, Pastor, could you read this? Like, well,

780
00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:32.920
what is this? I'm like, it's a commentary on First

781
00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:35.880
John with James Montgomery boys. And he calls into question

782
00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:41.000
the presence of verse whichever verse that is that's found

783
00:44:41.000 --> 00:44:43.159
in the King James. He makes an argument that it

784
00:44:43.199 --> 00:44:47.119
doesn't belong there. The King James manuscript is in error.

785
00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:49.639
And he's like, and he took it, and he tossed

786
00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:57.320
it back at me, like I don't read garbage. Well,

787
00:44:57.480 --> 00:45:00.400
thank you so very much, pastor for being such a

788
00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:02.920
great help to me. Now, of course he didn't want

789
00:45:02.920 --> 00:45:04.559
to read it, he didn't want to engage in it.

790
00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:06.559
But I went home and read it and continue to

791
00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:08.880
work on it and continue to look at and continue

792
00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:10.599
to struggle. And I, since you could say, I was

793
00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:12.639
being tossed to and fro with every wind of doctrine

794
00:45:12.679 --> 00:45:15.079
because my pastor wouldn't do so, because in his mind,

795
00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:16.800
there was only one way to look at it, and

796
00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:19.000
he was not going to listen to anybody else. He

797
00:45:19.159 --> 00:45:22.280
was right in his own eyes, and everybody else was wrong.

798
00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:24.920
No matter how much a study had been done on

799
00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:27.760
the manuscripts, no matter what manuscripts had been found or

800
00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:30.280
not found, no matter how much work had been done

801
00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:32.840
on the textual variance. He didn't want to hear about

802
00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:34.840
any of it. He didn't care about any of it

803
00:45:34.920 --> 00:45:37.719
because he thought he was right and everyone else was wrong.

804
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:41.039
That is literally the epitome of so much of Christianity.

805
00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:52.400
So I think and Proverbs, I'm going to approach this

806
00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:55.480
a little differently than the way he approached it. He didn't,

807
00:45:55.679 --> 00:45:58.280
and I don't God leading me? And all. If God

808
00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:00.440
is leading me, then this wouldn't even be an issue. Okay,

809
00:46:01.519 --> 00:46:04.880
all right? That whole concept drives me crazy. Okay, because

810
00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:06.880
once you say God again, this is one of the

811
00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:09.119
major problems I have with Christians will say well God

812
00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:11.679
led me or God showed me, or God or God

813
00:46:11.719 --> 00:46:14.920
taught me. Well, then you think, now your conclusion is infallible.

814
00:46:14.960 --> 00:46:16.880
So then you're always going to think you're right. That's

815
00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:19.480
even more dangerous. But here's the way I perceive it.

816
00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:26.000
As an individual, you constantly think things, believe things, and

817
00:46:26.079 --> 00:46:29.480
have very strong opinions, and you obviously think your thinking

818
00:46:29.559 --> 00:46:31.920
is right. You think your opinions are right, You think

819
00:46:31.960 --> 00:46:34.519
your conclusions are right, you think your beliefs are right,

820
00:46:34.760 --> 00:46:37.920
you think your doctrines are right. You think you are right.

821
00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:43.159
We all do. Now the issue is on all of

822
00:46:43.199 --> 00:46:46.559
those conclusions and all of those things that you think

823
00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:50.960
you are right. How many of those very held on

824
00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:55.679
conclusions and opinions have you ever considered in light of

825
00:46:55.880 --> 00:47:01.840
other sources, one outside of yourself and from varying different

826
00:47:01.880 --> 00:47:05.800
perspectives to challenge you and to help you struggle to

827
00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:09.239
try to determine if your view is right or if

828
00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:14.760
it is flawed. Are you quick to consider multiple outside sources,

829
00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:19.760
to consider advice, to seek counsel from multiple sources, or

830
00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:23.519
do you only seek that which already agrees with your

831
00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:37.239
conclusion When it comes to an argument with someone? Can

832
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:39.880
you really hear the other side? Can you really hear

833
00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:42.119
the other side? Do you really listen to it? Do

834
00:47:42.159 --> 00:47:44.719
you really consider the other side? Look the next time

835
00:47:44.760 --> 00:47:46.559
you get in a fight with your husband or with

836
00:47:46.599 --> 00:47:49.679
your kids, can you really hear them? Are you just

837
00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:52.480
wanting them to stop talking? So now you can then

838
00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:55.360
just throw out everything you think, everything you feel, and

839
00:47:55.400 --> 00:47:58.719
you just run over until basically you beat them into submission.

840
00:47:58.880 --> 00:48:01.039
So they just say, I'm so sorry, you're right because

841
00:48:01.159 --> 00:48:03.119
I don't want this to end. Are you that kind

842
00:48:03.159 --> 00:48:04.679
of person or you like who wha wha wha wait

843
00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:06.800
wait wait, okay, let me hear you. Okay, now what

844
00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:09.679
are you trying to say? Let me understand? Okay, let

845
00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:13.239
me I want to hear you before I want Do

846
00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:15.440
you want to hear them or do you want them

847
00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:23.920
to hear you? See? The way of the Full is

848
00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:26.800
right in his own eyes that I think that is

849
00:48:26.880 --> 00:48:39.079
all of us. We all think we're right now. I

850
00:48:39.679 --> 00:48:42.760
do think that you know my doctrinal beliefs, that I

851
00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:45.920
obviously hold them to them strongly. I am definitely willing

852
00:48:46.039 --> 00:48:48.960
to consider other perspectives. Not at the same time their

853
00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:51.679
perspectives I'm not willing to consider anymore after all of

854
00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:55.440
this time, I'll just be honest. A charismatic walks up

855
00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:57.360
to me. I don't really care what they think. I

856
00:48:57.400 --> 00:48:59.119
don't care what they say. I'm just gonna be on

857
00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:02.079
You may sound this may sound completely contradictory from everything

858
00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:04.480
we've spent forty nine minutes looking at, but I'm just

859
00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:08.159
gonna be honest. I think they're crazy, ridiculous lunatics. They

860
00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:11.599
got mental issues, they need help. Their doctrine is poison,

861
00:49:11.840 --> 00:49:14.679
their theology is a cancer, and they should not be

862
00:49:14.719 --> 00:49:17.679
listened to. They should not even be considered Christian. Their

863
00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:21.639
entire theological system should be wiped off the face of

864
00:49:21.719 --> 00:49:25.199
the ever living earth. Okay, Like I know, I sound

865
00:49:25.239 --> 00:49:27.519
really not very nice, but that's how much I hate

866
00:49:27.599 --> 00:49:37.920
charismatic theology, not talking about people talking about theology. So yeah,

867
00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:40.320
and there I'm gonna sound like a fool because I

868
00:49:40.320 --> 00:49:45.119
think I'm right, and you may say you think you're

869
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:46.920
right in your own eyes. I feel like I have

870
00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:51.440
considered their perspective countless times throughout my Christian life. I've

871
00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:56.320
listened to them, I've watched them, I've considered them even

872
00:49:56.320 --> 00:49:59.840
at one point. You know, I've definitely tried to pursue

873
00:49:59.840 --> 00:50:03.039
an understanding of charismatic theology. But at some point it's

874
00:50:03.079 --> 00:50:06.400
just hard to reconcile their ridiculous claims with reality all

875
00:50:06.440 --> 00:50:09.760
around you. It's just like, at some point, I don't

876
00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:11.159
have to be I don't have I don't need a

877
00:50:11.199 --> 00:50:14.960
seminary education to go. You make this claim, reality clearly

878
00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:18.400
demonstrates that your claim is utterly fraudulent. Okay, but all right,

879
00:50:18.440 --> 00:50:21.880
But that's a whole different thing. But the point is,

880
00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:25.880
I think I'm right? Now? Do I think I'm right?

881
00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:29.519
In my own eyes? I think? I think the issue

882
00:50:29.559 --> 00:50:33.760
is thinking you're right within yourself. As a self sufficient,

883
00:50:33.800 --> 00:50:37.880
self contained echo chamber, a bubble within yourself, you only

884
00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:40.599
you only listen to that which you already agree with you,

885
00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:42.480
so you think you're right. You only listen to that

886
00:50:42.519 --> 00:50:47.119
which gives confirmation biased because you're only hearing what you

887
00:50:47.159 --> 00:50:51.840
already agree with or are you wise enough to go hmm,

888
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:56.239
I could be wrong. I have to consider other voices.

889
00:50:56.440 --> 00:50:59.400
This is why I am and that's why this is

890
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:02.639
one of the reas I am. Absolutely. This is kind

891
00:51:02.639 --> 00:51:08.079
of the basis for my philosophy about whenever we study

892
00:51:08.159 --> 00:51:13.000
a passage of scripture, we completely forget everything we have

893
00:51:13.159 --> 00:51:16.719
ever learned about that scripture in the past. We don't

894
00:51:16.760 --> 00:51:19.800
use past notes, we don't look at past commentary, we

895
00:51:19.840 --> 00:51:23.440
look at the passage brand new. All of our past

896
00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:27.320
conclusions are of no value in today's study. Because if

897
00:51:27.400 --> 00:51:29.480
you don't do that, you think you're right and you're

898
00:51:29.519 --> 00:51:32.079
never going to see anything else. You have to throw

899
00:51:32.119 --> 00:51:35.519
away all of your past conclusions because you're acknowledging you

900
00:51:35.639 --> 00:51:37.840
could be wrong. So I'm going to study the passage

901
00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:41.239
new today. I don't care what I know, what I think.

902
00:51:41.440 --> 00:51:43.920
I'm going to forget what I thought it meant, because

903
00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:46.920
today I may come to a different conclusion about what

904
00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:49.960
it means. And if I do, that's wonderful, and then

905
00:51:49.960 --> 00:51:52.199
the next time I study it, I forget everything that

906
00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:55.519
I'll learn that time. I have so tried to drive

907
00:51:55.599 --> 00:52:00.679
that point home. Your past understanding of any thilological issue, really,

908
00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:06.039
you're past understanding of any issue philological, non philological. Any

909
00:52:06.119 --> 00:52:11.519
conclusion you've come to about anything culturally, societal and society

910
00:52:11.960 --> 00:52:16.679
even personal in your conclusions and fights with family members.

911
00:52:16.760 --> 00:52:20.840
Whatever conclusion you held yesterday, it means nothing today because

912
00:52:20.840 --> 00:52:23.519
it's a new day and you have the opportunity to

913
00:52:23.880 --> 00:52:27.239
first you always acknowledge, Hey, I could be wrong, Because

914
00:52:27.280 --> 00:52:31.239
we're very fallible human beings with a deception factory inside

915
00:52:31.239 --> 00:52:33.639
of us, and so I'm going to start today. I'll

916
00:52:33.679 --> 00:52:37.800
reconsider your arguments today, I will. I will consider it anew.

917
00:52:39.400 --> 00:52:45.199
It's hard to maintain that mindset. But with the Bible,

918
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:48.960
we have to whatever I thought I knew about any verse.

919
00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:52.159
You know, if I'm looking at First just flip my

920
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:54.360
Bible to First Kings. Whatever I think I know about

921
00:52:54.360 --> 00:52:56.840
First Kings chapter one, if I was to study it today,

922
00:52:56.920 --> 00:52:59.119
it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if I've written papers

923
00:52:59.119 --> 00:53:00.920
on First Kings chapter one, and doesn't matter if I've

924
00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:04.360
studied First Kings and Bible College seminary. None of that

925
00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:13.519
matters today because I could have been wrong. Because if

926
00:53:13.559 --> 00:53:16.400
I only rely on my past understanding, then now I

927
00:53:16.440 --> 00:53:19.119
think I'm right in the present based on my own

928
00:53:19.159 --> 00:53:22.880
and my own eyes, based off my previous understanding. New

929
00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:27.760
day requires new study with the with the throwing out

930
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of all past conclusions. So how the way of the

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fool is rut in his own eyes, But he who

932
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heeds counsel is wise. Are you do you? How how

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much do you go look and study and verify and

934
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confirm and double check and triple check. Remember that was

935
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some of my issues with a lot of the way

936
00:53:55.760 --> 00:53:59.400
pastors were responding to the Trump to the assassination on

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the former president Donald Trump. A lot of the claims

938
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that were making were just not even verifiable, some of

939
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them that were already being contradicted, and I was like, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.

940
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Now some of the claims turned out to be more

941
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accurate than they appeared at the at the first. But

942
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that's why I always say, wait, slow down, stop, consider, think,

943
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stop looking only at one source. I can't stand when

944
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someone starts arguing about something like, well, it appears the

945
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only channel you watch is Fox News or Newsmax, because

946
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there's an entire world of information out there that calls

947
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that into question. This is what was getting me so

948
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irritated when Christians were running around the election was stolen.

949
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The election was stolen, and they were putting forth all

950
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of these lies that were being put out there by

951
00:54:45.480 --> 00:54:49.320
Sidney Powell, Rudy Giuliani and then about the dominion voting system.

952
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And guess what, Fox News lost that lawsuit right that

953
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had to pay seven hundred and something million dollars because

954
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of the lies that they told. Others are being sued.

955
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Others had to apologize that they were spreading false information

956
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and they're still Christians running around them in the cases,

957
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spreading the same false information because they won't go verify,

958
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they won't check, They just are. They think they're right

959
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in their own eyes. We cannot be this self contained

960
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living in an echo chamber. We have to heed and

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listen to other counsel that's outside of ourself, outside of

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our little echo chamber, so that we can be challenged.

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The way of the fool is right in his own eyes,

964
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but he who heeds counsel is wise. Stop looking in yourself,

965
00:55:45.119 --> 00:55:47.800
to yourself and everything that agrees with yourself, and look

966
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at that which is outside of yourself that may even

967
00:55:50.159 --> 00:55:53.000
actually challenge you and disagree with you, so that you

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have a greater chance of finding truth more than just

969
00:55:55.960 --> 00:55:59.639
trying to find a way to win an argument. Thanks

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to listening, God bless