Aug. 23, 2024

Revival Pt 6

Revival Pt 6

We conclude our look at an article on revival in the Sword of the Lord newspaper

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We conclude our look at an article on revival in the Sword of the Lord newspaper

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Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is

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the Theology Central podcast making Theology Central. All good things

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must come to an end. Okay, Well, I don't know

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if this has been a good thing. I don't know

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if it's been a bad thing, but it's about to

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come to somewhat of an end. Good morning everyone. It

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is Friday, August third, twenty twenty four. It is currently

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eleven twelve am Central Time, and I am coming to

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you live from the Theology Central studio located right here

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in Abilene, Texas. Now, I know as a broadcaster there

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are a lot of things I do not do very well.

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Like I there are a lot of things I do wrong.

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There's a lot of things I do that probably irritate

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a lot of people, and it's probably why some people

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choose not to listen. I know I can be somewhat repetitive.

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I can make a point and then repeat the point

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and repeat the point. I repeat the point. I have

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a tendency to do that because I'm trying to really

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drive home a point. But sometimes from a speaking perspective,

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from a broadcasting perspective, that repetitiveness can be probably irritating.

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Like I got the point, just move on. I get it.

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I understand that. I'm very aware of that weakness. I

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know that there are times I can absolutely say things

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in an incorrect way. I don't pronounce things correctly. I

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may stumble over how to say a word, things like that.

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I know when I'm reading things, my public reading skills

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are not great. I tend to be a speed reader,

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so when I'm reading publicly, I'm just like skipping over

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words and who knows what, and my brain is like,

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but when you got to slow down when you're reading,

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you're going to be like blessed is that man who

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makes the Lord his trust and does not respect the

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proud nor such as turn aside to lies. You have

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to be very purpose you have to be very precise.

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I'm not very good at that, right, I'm not very

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good at times and probably keeping my emotions in check. Right,

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there's probably times I could be more effective in my

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communication if I wasn't, you know, a pounding things, getting

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mad and raising my voice at the same time. And

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there's probably some other there's not Probably there's a list

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of other things I don't do well. But at the

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same time, at the same time, I think there are

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some things I do pretty pretty well. I think, at

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least decently. I do some things. At least I think

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there's some things I do decently. I think the one

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thing is I've created a podcast that comes across much

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more real, much more hopefully authentic. It doesn't come across

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all you know, overly produced, It doesn't follow any normal template.

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It's just a podcast. This is a podcast of It's

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really a story in a sense of a ciner with

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a microphone trying to figure out Christianity with all of

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you and inviting you to participate, inviting you to question, challenge, study,

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and inviting you a part of it. I think that

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that's unique. I think there's a unique aspect to that, right.

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I think a lot of podcasts follow a template. They're

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very produced, they're very polished, they're almost almost manufactured, like, oh,

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there's going to be two people, and there's going to

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be a host and a co host, and they're gonna

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do like there's some things that's just everyone follows a pattern.

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And I've blown up that template and said no, this

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is a the story of a man who's a sinner,

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very much a sinner, who has a microphone, who just

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is trying to figure out Christianity. Who falls and stumbles

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and gets angry and gets mad, who has you know,

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a you know, a seizure disorder all that. I try

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to be very authentic and very real, and I think

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that there's something to that. I also think that there

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is a condevei a free form nature to this podcast. Right, Hey,

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we're gonna do this, and the next thing, you know,

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we're off that turns into this, and that turns into this.

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And sometimes it's like it's almost unplanned, right, it's like, hey,

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what's in store for us this week? In some cases

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I have no idea, Well let's try this. Sometimes I

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try things and they fall apart and I don't finish them.

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Like there's just a very it's a very real life

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feel to it. I'm a person with a microphone trying

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to figure it out. I come up with ideas and plans.

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Some work, some don't. There's always a like, well let's

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try this, and the next thing you know, we're off

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to this, and we're off to this. And so I

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think there's some aspects of the podcast I think that

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are positive. Now the listener determines to do the positive

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outweigh the negative, does the negative outweigh the positive, and

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many people choose not to listen, or many people I

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think the most frustrating thing is I think people draw

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conclusions not really understanding the nature of the podcast. I'm

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just a center with a microphone trying to figure out Christianity.

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I'm just inviting you along. And yeah, do I have

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strong opinions, yes. Do I get emotional, yes, But I'm

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a real person. I don't claim to be and I

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don't claim to be anything other than a sinner. That's

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what I am, and the good and the bad is there.

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So I say all of that because this current thing

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that we're trying to do on Revival is a good

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example of that. Right is. Of course, whenever I do

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reviews of anything, I don't like to look at the

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material and advance right because then it kind of takes

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away the organic, authentic nature. It's like it's being produced. Well,

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I read this, and I did this, and I listened

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to this. Now let me talk about it, and it's

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like it's rehearsed. I like it to be like, hey,

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I got the sort of the Lord newspaper right here.

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I just noticed there's an article here on the Holy

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Spirit in Revival. Well, I'm gonna break this down into

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small sections. We'll do a series on Revival using this article. Now,

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I have no idea where it's gonna go. We're gonna

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find out together, and then we read it together, and

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then it takes its wild twist and turns, and the

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next thing you know, we're doing a challenge on Charles

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Finny All because like it, because it all kind of interconnects.

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Sometimes the connection you may see sometimes I don't even

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know if there's a connection, But I love how one

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thing kind of just grows into another thing. You never

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really know where things are going. It's not all mapped out. Now.

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Maybe if I mapped it out, scheduled it out, it

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could I could be much more successful, But then it

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would destroy the nature of what this is supposed to be.

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It really, this is this is me. This is a

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center with a microphone, just trying to kind of figure

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out Christianity in real time with you. And I don't

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know if there's if there's room for it. I don't

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know if there's a place for it. There's probably not

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a market for it. But there's a part of me

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that feels there's enough uniqueness to it there's got to

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be it's got to appeal to some people. I just

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don't think some people get what I'm doing. But it's okay.

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But this article, now, this is one of those situations

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where hey, let's try this, let's do this. And now

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we reach to the end of this article that we've

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been working on and I'm looking at going how do

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I do this episode? There's nothing here do I just

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not If I don't do the next part, no one's

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really going to care. But then I don't care because

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I got to finish the article. So what do I do?

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What I do? So here we are and I'm going

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to figure this out. But here is what I'm going

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to do. I'm going to start this in kind of

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a different way. I could just go to the last

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couple of paragraphs finish it up in probably five minutes,

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but I went back to the beginning of the article.

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If you have a piece of paper, I want you

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to write down how many times we're going to go

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through and count. I want you to write down how

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many times this article on revival references the Book of Acts.

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I want you to count how many times this article

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on revival references the Book of Acts Are you ready,

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here we go. Number one. You can write down each

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reference Acts four thirty one. Acts four thirty one. This

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is the key article. And I say article again, this

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printed sermon, and I keep referring to it as an articles,

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which is not really fair, this printed sermon. The first

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reference is Acts four thirty one, which says, and when

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they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were

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assembled together, and they were all filled with the Holy ghost,

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and they spake the word of God with boldness. There

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is reference number one, all right, reference to see the

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second reference. Now, sadly, I've been using this article so

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much the page is starting to come apart and words

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are now missing from it. I couldn't even go back

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and read this now if I want to. I've literally

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worn out the front of this article. Okay, but all right,

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I see next here. So there's one from the Book

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of Acts. Then we have some from Matthew, all right,

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Then it says, jump to page sixteen, page sixteen, all right,

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And then we have some in John all right. We

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have some in Ephesians. A right, So we have Ephesians.

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Then we have Galatians, all right, So we only have

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one so far in Acts. There oh wait, we come

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to Acts. We then we come to page seventeen. Here

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we have a second reference to the Book of Acts,

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Acts chapter two, verse forty two. And they continued steadfastly

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in the apostles, doctrine and fellowship, and then breaking of

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bread and in prayer. All right, So we have two

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references to the Book of Acts so far. All right.

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Then we have a third reference to Acts chapter two,

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just the whole chapter an Acts chapter four. All right,

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so there's four references to the Book of Acts. There's

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four references. Then we have Acts chapter nine. There's five

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references to the Book of Acts. Then we have a

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reference to X one eight. I think that's six. That's six.

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Then we have another reference to Ax one eight, so

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that would be seven. We have a reference to Acts

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four thirty three. That would be eight if I'm counting correctly.

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All right, Uh, then I think that's all on that page.

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Then we go to so I think that's eight references.

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Then we go to page twenty two. Yeah, I think

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there's a total of eight references to the Book of Acts.

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Eight references to the Book of Acts, and a sermon

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on revival. Now, why do I point that out? I

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think that's eight references. Eight references. If I get the

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number wrong, I apologize. I tried to give you some

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of those references. Was just like an Acts chapter two

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or in Acts chapter four. It doesn't give a specific verse,

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but just referencing the whole chapter. Acts one eight is

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referenced twice. So hopefully we got I think we got

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most of those. I think eight references. Now you may

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think that that's significant, you may think it's insignificant. I

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find it significant because I believe that when many people

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speak of revival in twenty twenty four, in your church,

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maybe even my church Christian friends, you know, when they

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start talking about revival, I think many inevitably will use

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the Book of Acts to support some of their ideas

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about revival. To this is what revival looks like. This

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is what we need. It's the Book of Acts. The

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Book of Acts. We need the Book of Acts. That

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is revival. And I'm here to say that there are

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philological and hermoneutical issues with pointing to the Book of

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Acts when talking about modern day revival. Now, before I

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read these last couple of paragraphs, what I want to

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do is challenge the use of Acts when people talk

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about revivals in twenty twenty four, because I believe it's

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philologically and hermoneutically problematic. All right, Does that sound like

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a plan? All right? Claiming the Book of x as

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somehow a how to guide for revival today raises several

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philological and hermeneutical problems. Now, I already believe this, and

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I've already tried to articulate this through this entire series

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going through this because every time they've made a reference

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to as, I've challenged the use of these verses in

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the Book of Acts. But here's an additional source agreeing

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with me to some level. Right, So here's the first

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problem they see. This is the they're going to give

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us a list of philological and hermeneutical problems and somehow

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looking to the Book of Acts as a how to

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about revival. Right. Number one, Everyone should know. Number one.

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If you've listened to me for any period of time,

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you should know this is a major issue I have

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with Christians and pastors when it comes to the Bible.

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Pastors and Christians inevitably go to a passage of scripture

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that is descriptive and they make it prescriptive. We must

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never forget this hermeneutical principle of descriptive versus prescriptive descriptive,

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and the Book of Acts is descriptive in nature. The

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Book of Acts is descriptive in its nature. The Book

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of Acts is primarily a historical narrative describing the early

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Church's actions and experiences. The Bible is filled with historical narratives,

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which is just simply describing what happened. We run to

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these historical narratives and we somehow make themtive. Oh, if we,

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if we will, if we will believe God and in

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a sense walk around our problem seven times, the walls

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of our problems will fall. Stop it. Jericho is not

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a prescription for how to deal with your problems. That's ridiculous.

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It's descriptive. And so wait, they run to the Book

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of They run to the Bible over and over and

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take descriptive historical narratives that make them prescriptive. That's got

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to stop. In preaching and preaching is the look. I

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don't blame the average person in the pew who's trying

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to figure out how to study the Bible. In many cases,

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they learn these bad ways of studying the Bible from

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their pastor standing in the pulpit who takes historical narratives

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that are descriptive and make them prescriptive. Stop it all right,

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if you teach in your church, tell everyone grab their

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bibles and just start randomly flipping the pages and just

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start reading. And then ask everyone descriptive or prescriptive? Descriptive

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or prescriptive, and put a D or a P next

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to it. Is it descriptive or prescriptive? You'll have You

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could start probably a war in your Sunday school class

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at church. A historical narrative describes. Listen, it records what happened,

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not necessarily what should happen in every context. To treat

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acts as prescriptive, a prescriptive manual for revival can misinterpret

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its genre. A historical narrative is a specific genre of literature.

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You don't take historical narratives and make them prescriptive. Are

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there maybe lessons that can be gained? Yes, but we

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make them prescriptive, saying hey, if this is what we

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can do and we'll get this kind of a result. No, no, no, no,

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that's not the case. It's describing what happened, right, Well,

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what do we do when when Jesus you know, in

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the boat, and their storm came upon him, and he's

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sleeping in the boat. Well, the boat represents our lives,

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and the storms represents the trials and tribulations, and all

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we have to do is trust Jesus and he will

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say peace to the storm, and your storm and your

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life will go away, will become still and silent. Just

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stop that nonsense. It's describing what happened. It shows Jesus

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is more than just a man. He is divine because

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he had control over nature. It's not prescribing that if

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I just simply will trust Jesus in the boat of

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my life, it will calm all the storms. That's ridiculous.

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It makes for good preaching. It's horrible hermoneutics now, as

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a result, when you do the descriptive versus prescriptive, this

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leads to a hermoneutical problem of confusing descriptive text. What

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the early Church did with prescriptive texts, commands or guidelines

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For the church today, not everything described an ax is

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intended as a model for believers. The end. Stop the confusion.

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This article quotes acts over and over, and remember I

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pointed out what's eight times? At least eight times it

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quotes from the Book of Acts, and this printed sermon

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on revival as acts is somehow the key to understanding revival.

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It is not. It quotes passages and what did it do?

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I demonstrated, well the place shook. Are you saying that

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the physical locations? If we get revival, the building is

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going to shake? And then, of course what did they do?

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They skipped the verses as said they didn't have anything,

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They didn't have any possessions. They sold everything and had

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everything in common. People were like, no, we don't want that. Well,

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then stop quoting the Book of Acts. So the first

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problem is descripted versus prescriptive. Second historical context historical context.

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When it comes to the Book of Acts, we need

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to understand the Apostolic era was unique. The Apostolic era

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was unique. When you're reading the Bible and you find

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yourself historically in the Apostolic era, you are in a

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unique era. That era is over. We do not have

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the Apostolic era to day. The last Apostle died. The

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Apostolic era is over. Stop comparing thinking anything that that

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was as relevant for today because we're not in that era.

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The events and acts occurred during a unique period in

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redemptive history. The Apostolic Age marked by the outpouring of

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the Holy Spirit, Pentecost miracle. Okay, well, let's go through this.

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The Apostolic era era was marked by the outpouring of

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the Holy Spirit, Pentecost miracles, and the foundational work of

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the apostles. The events were unrepeatable in many ways and

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tied to the specific context of the Church's birth. That's

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why those miracles so many. And again, this is such

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a charismatic problem, he he he, We're we want, we

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want the Book of Acts today. No, yet, you can't

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have it today because it was a unique era. Now

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many people who are not charismatic kind of do the

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same thing they were under the Book of Acts and

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say we want the same thing today with everyone. You know,

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the next time someone gets ready to open up the

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Book of Acts, slap their hands and say, who whoa, whoa, whoa,

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whoa woa Are you sure you know what you're doing?

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Do you sure you know how to read this descriptive

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versus prescriptive? And then understand it's a unique historical context.

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The culture and temporal temporal context of the early Church

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differs significantly from today, directly applying the practice of the

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early Church. Without accounting for these differences can lead to

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problematic applications. It's a unique period of time. How are

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you going to apply some of this? You got miracles

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happening that are not happening today. You got things happening

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that are not happening today. I've told the story countless times.

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A person worked for me when I was in charge

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of a specific section at the hospital. She was the

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part of the praise and worship team at one of

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the local charismatic churches that just happened to be right

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off the freeway, And when I drove to work to

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the military base, I would drive right past that hospital

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that church. Now I would listen to the sermons from

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that church because someone worked for me who attended that church,

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and well, they would like to talk doctor and theology

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to me, or are sometimes about the sermons. So I

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would like to keep up with what they're listening to.

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So it could be somewhat prepared for a meaningful conversation.

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Instead of just reacting ignorantly, I could react with knowledge.

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It didn't take a lot of time, you know, I

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would just go to the website, get the sermon, and

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then you know, try to listen to it on the

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way to work on Monday, if it was already available,

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and then if she if she mentioned it, great, If

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she didn't, I didn't bring it up. I left it alone.

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one particular Sunday, the pastor appreached I cannot wait for

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the day that people drive past this church and they see.

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The tongues of fire above this building and that the

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building is shaking because the power of the Holy Spirit

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has fallen on this church. And I was like this

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most he literally believes Acts Chapter two is repeatable.

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This is ridiculous. It was a one time thing. So

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sometimes I would give her a heart time. And this

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is where I'm not very godly, Like, hey, still haven't

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seeing those tongues of fire above the building? Been driving

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by every day? Well, I don't even know how many

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years that was, what eight years ago, ten years ago,

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and how many years ago it was now it was

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a long time ago. There's still been no tongues of

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fire above the building. The building still hasn't shaken, it's

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still there. It's no none of it. It was all

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just it's just bad theology. So when we come to

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the Book of Acts. We have to understand the difference

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between descriptive and prescriptive. We have to understand Apostolic era

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a unique historical context. Number three, the Theology of the

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Holy Spirit AX portrays the Holy Spirit's work in a

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dynamic and sometimes spontaneous way. Claiming acts is somehow a

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how to to revival might imply that we can control

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or manufacture the Spirit's movements, which undermines the sovereignty and

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freedom of the Spirit's work. Misunderstanding of spiritual gifts. There

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is a potential danger in assuming that the miraculous gifts

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and signs and acts are normative for all periods, leading

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to possible misinterpretation of how the Spirit works today. If

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you have a theology of the Holy Spirit and that

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the Holy Spirit is third person of the Trinity one God,

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three distinct person's father, son, and Holy Spirit, Holy Spirit

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is divine and sovereign. The Holy Spirit works not according

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to our manipulative techniques are our plans. It works according

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to the way the Holy Spirit decides to work. And

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not only that it's the Holy Spirit was working and

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that unique Apostolic era the Holy Spirit was operating and

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unique supernatural very visible way as what as a means

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to authenticate the apostle, the apostle, apostolic authority, and the

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apostles messages the Holy Spirit. There was to authenticate that

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the apostles were God's spokesman. At that time, the Bible

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was not complete. There was the need for the Apostolic

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authority for the foundation of the early Church. Well, you

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had to authenticate who the real apostles were. The signs

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and wonders and miracles did that. So the Holy Spirit

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work had a specific purpose for a specific time. It

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also was doing things to demonstrate to the Jews that

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the Gentiles had truly experienced salvation. So there was a

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unique historical context that explains the unique nature of the

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Spirit's work at that time that is not obviously manifested

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today ecclesiology and missology or you're basically the mission of

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the church missiology. I guess I could see it that

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way when we go to the Book of Acts. So

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we have when we go to the Book of Acts,

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we got to remember descriptive versus prescripted historical context, and

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we got to understand what the Holy Spirit was doing.

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We need need a good theology of the Holy Spirit

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and how the Holy Spirit was operating during that Apostolic

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era era. Next ecclesiology a missiology the early Church's structure,

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communal living and practices described an axe communal sharing, speaking

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and tongues are sometimes treated as a blueprint. However, these

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practices may not be normative or applicable in the same

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form today. Well, clearly we don't believe Matt daily. We

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don't meet daily. They sold all of their possessions and

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had a kind of a communal sharing and a communal living.

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We don't do that. So you can't go to the

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Book of Acts and say I'm going to grab this

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part and ignore that part. In many cases, it's the

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very next verse. And the missionary strategy and methods of

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the apostles were tailored to their context and led by

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the Spirit. Treating them as a fixed method for revival

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can ignore the need for contextualization in today's mission fields. Well,

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we don't go to we don't get our missiology from

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the Book of Acts. It was unique. It was the

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Apostolic era and a specific historical context. That's why a

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lot of people will go to Acts two and say,

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if we will all be in one accord and pray

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the Holy Spirit will fall like an axe too. No,

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it won't, because that was a prophesied event. Going back

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to the Feast of Pentecost was pointing to what happened

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on that day when that time had come. It happened,

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and it was fulfilled the end. It's not repeatable and

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we can't follow some kind of their their methods. Next,

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there's some philological implications. Revival in the Church is generally

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understood as a sovereign act of God, not something that

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can be humanly orchestrated by following a specific pattern. Viewing

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acts as a manual could lead to a workspace approach

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to revival, which conflicts with the understanding of grace and

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divine initiative. So if we go through these number one,

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one of the problems when sermons and pastors look to

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acts and when Christians look to as acts for revival,

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they're confusing descriptive versus prescriptive. They don't understand the unique

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historical context that have a proper theology of the Holy Spirit,

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understanding how the theology how the Holy Spirit was working

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in that unique era. They seem to completely mess up

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ecclesiology of missiology by trying to take this unique situation

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and make it applicable today. While picking and choosing what

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they want to be applicable, they have they their strong

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philological implications by basically denying the sovereignty of God in

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Revival and thinking of something that is man made. All right, Yeah,

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and I could go with more. I think that's enough.

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I think that's enough. I've got. I've got like more.

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I got like three or four more points. But I

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think that'll get you, get you to where I want

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you to get. That is, whenever you see anything on revival,

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I don't. Whenever there's a book on revival, an article

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on revival, or you're hearing a sermon on revival. Count

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how many times they reference Acts. Count how many times

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they reference the Book of Acts, And almost inevitably they're

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going to be guilty of a lot of those philological

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and hermoneutical issues. You can't be referencing the Book of

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Acts for revival in twenty twenty four because you're completely

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mishandling the text. Now, with that said, the dramatic conclusion

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what you've all been waiting for Page twenty two of

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the June seventh, twenty twenty four issue of the sort

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of the Lord newspaper. Are you ready? We are down

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to the last section called the Holy Spirit and Revival,

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and it's going to tell us what revival is. It's

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going to tell us revival is three different words. They

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all start with a P. They're going to argue that

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revivals are personal, revivals are practical, and revivals are powerful.

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All right, Are you ready? Here we go. Revivals are personal.

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Revivals concern you and the Lord. Revivals concern your heart condition,

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and revival will kill jealousy, envy, and fault finding. Now,

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I do believe revival is personal you. It's you, and

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we kind of talked about this. Where I think true

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revival is true revival is is when you see God

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as he truly is, then you see yourself as you

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truly are, and then you are broken, You are humbled

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and humiliated by your condition, and then this drives you

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passionately to Christ for his for comfort and peace and

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for the hope of imputed righteousness. And then hopefully from

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that you are then have a greater passion and desire

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for God. Now, I one hundred percent reject that revival

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is going to immediately kill jealousy in the and fault

484
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finding revival is not going to kill jealousy in the

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and fault finding. Why revival doesn't kill the sinful nature.

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Revival simply makes you awake to the reality of your

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sinful nature. And then you and you say else, So

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what some people think it will make you awake to

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your sinful nature, So then you will then engage in

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moral reform, and you'll reform your life and you'll be better. No,

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revival drives you to Christ and his imputed righteousness, and

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then out of such, out of such, almost you're so grateful.

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It's almost an attitude of gratefulness of what Christ has

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done for you, saving you in spite of all of

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your fault finding, your jealousy, your envy, and all of

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those things inside of you. Then you hopefully are more

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motivated to pursue Christ. But it doesn't transform your nature.

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Revival just makes you awake to how bad your nature

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is and convicts you of it, and then you but you,

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But it doesn't make you simply start trying to live better.

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So that's what everyone always thinks. Oh I had this

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great revival service. Oh I was so emotional, it was

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so powerful. Now I'm gonna read my Bible I'm gonna

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go to church, I'm gonna witness, I'm gonna be better,

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I'm gonna stop looking at porn. I'm gonna do this,

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I'm gonna do that, and then to last for five minutes.

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Revival should not lead to moral reformation. It should lead

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to a greater trust in the imputed righteousness of Christ.

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Or you find peace, you find comfort, and then because

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you were so filled with gratitude for that imputed righteousness,

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hopefully then passionately you'll move forward and trying to grow

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closer to God. But it's not going to eliminate the

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sinful nature, but it is personal. Revivals are practical, This

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is number two. Revivals straighten out a lot of strange ideas.

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Revivals will bring about correct behavior in financial matters. Revival

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will correct your actions towards others and cause you to

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live pure, clean lives. So in both of these personal

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and practical, you can see what they're under it. They

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think revival is simply moral reform. If there's revival, look

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what's going to happen. Look at all the things they say.

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Revival's going to get rid of, Revival's going to get

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rid of jealousy, Revival's going to get rid of envy.

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Revival's going to get rid of fault finding. Revival's going

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to correct behavior in financial situations. It's going to correct

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your actions towards others, and it's going to cause you

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to live a pure, clean life that is utterly ridiculous.

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It may do some of these things in a very

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temporary way because you were so impacted by the emotional experience.

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That's why people, that's why some Christians are constantly looking

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for the next conference, for the next revival, because they

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need their next they need that next hit they need.

532
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It's like a drug. I need shoot me up right here,

533
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Come on, inject me so that I can get that

534
00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:17.200
unemotional Those endorphins will be released. So now, yeah, I'm

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gonna live for God. And then no revival should make

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you run to Christ to find comfort and peace in

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his imputed righteousness. Now, don't we wish that we could

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just have a revival and then we have a revival service,

539
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and then you look out in the congregation and guess

540
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what inside all of those people, there's no more jealousy,

541
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there's no more envy, there's no more fault finding. There's

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now correct behavior in all financial matters. They their actions

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towards each other have now been corrected, and they are

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all now living pure, clean lives. What it basically sounds

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like is that revival is the means to perfectionism. That's

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not true. This is why I hate, This is why

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I'm such a I'm against church camps, and almost almost inevitably,

548
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:24.039
i'm against all church camps. My kids never went to

549
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church camp. I don't. I never sent a kid to

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church camp for my church. We did not participate because

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I don't like kids being taken away from their home

552
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for a week in the summer, whatever how long. And

553
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then they're isolated, right, They're separated, isolated and indoctrinated and

554
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in many cases manipulated, and they come back emotional, Oh,

555
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I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna

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do and then what the last two three weeks. Teenagers

557
00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:53.840
are easy, are very emotional already, and you've got adults

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00:34:54.039 --> 00:34:57.880
pulling the strings to manipulate that emotion. They say they're

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doing it for God, but I think the sac logical

560
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damage that happens to kids is absolutely horrific. Now, there

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are some church camps that may not use that such

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a manipulative and doctorate in doctrinating isolating kind of technique.

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They may do it on much more. Just say, hey,

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we're gonna come have some good times. We'll talk about Jesus.

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It'll be a week away from your parents, you can

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have some fun, you can meet some other Christians, and

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hopefully we'll just have a fun, good relaxing time. No pressure,

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no manipulation. Now there's probably ones that can do that

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in many cases. Why do you spend all that money

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to send them off to camp? Well, I don't know,

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Just I don't know. Well, we can have a whole

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discussion about that. But so revivals are personal and practical. Next,

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they're powerful. The Holy Spirit makes it so. They are

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powerful enough to change a man's life completely. So there

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you see back to the powerful thing. See, it's powerful,

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But the power is what not to drive you to

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a deeper appreciation and rely it's upon the imputed righteousness. No,

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it's powerful to make you basically perfect. I mean this

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article is basically claiming, Hey, you get revival, you get perfection,

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you get basically a perfect Christian life. A revival is

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powerful enough to change a home completely. We have seen

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this over and over it's going to change a home completely,

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But does it now? Again, Revival is for Christians to

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be awoken. This is not about conversion. Are is he

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now referring to? Is this article now making revival about conversion? Now?

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Conversions are witnessing or evangelism may be a side effect

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of now people who have a greater appreciation for God's

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imputed righteousness and God's grace wanting to share that good

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news with others. Revivals are powerful enough to call a

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young man out of the world and lead him to

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follow Christ to the ends of the earth. My plea

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is for every Christian to let the Holy Spirit have

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the right of way. My plea is for every Christian

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to let the Holy Spirit have the right of way.

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So now the Holy Spirit is not sovereign. The Holy

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Spirit can be stopped by you and by me. I

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speak this to parents, to young people, to children, all

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who are dwelt by the Holy Spirit. May we let

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him have his way with us. The end, I told

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you there wasn't much left that concludes this. Look this

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printed sermon and the June seventh, twenty twenty four issue

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of Sort of the Lord newspaper. I'm going to now

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put this all back together, the paper will ultimately start

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falling apart because I've used it so much. But there

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we go. Hey, I love as much as I mean,

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I disagree with that article outright. I just think that

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article is the greatest example of how messed up Christians

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thinking is on revival. But you know what, I would

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still tell you to get a subscription to it because

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even though I disagree with it, guess what we just did.

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We've now done what seven hours maybe eight hours? I

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don't even know how many hours of discussion about revival

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based off that article. So when it comes to revival

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will end with this. Revival Number one cannot be based

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on the Book of Acts because if you're basing it

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on the Book of Acts, there are a long list

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of philological and harmoneutical issues that comes along with that.

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So don't be so whenever you hear people talk about revival,

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if they're referencing the Book of Acts over and over

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and over, you almost inevitably know their view of revival

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is flawed because they are committing phil logical and harmoneutical

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errors based on the Book of Acts. Number two, Revival

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is not about moral reformation. Revival is about being awoken

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to your sinfulness, your apathy, your spiritual complacency, your spiritual issues,

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and it forces you to flee to Christ, fall at

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00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:24.400
his feet, retrusting in his blood and his imputed righteousness.

627
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Then arising with a heart filled with gratitude of that

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00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:32.960
grace and mercy, and hopefully you take a step following

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00:39:33.039 --> 00:39:36.079
Christ a little bit better and a little bit more passionately.

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That is a revival. Revival does not change your nature.

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It does not eradicate the old nature. It just awakens

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00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:54.639
you to the reality of your nature and the reality

633
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of your spiritual state, not so that you will reform

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00:39:58.519 --> 00:40:01.679
your life, but that you will run to Christ, define

635
00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:05.760
the forgiveness and peace in him, then, at a gratitude,

636
00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:13.719
hopefully seek to walk closer with Him. There. We have

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completed this. Now here's what's going to happen. Here's what's

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00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:22.039
going to happen our series on Revival. Now we'll switch.

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00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:26.119
We've covered the main article. We've now deviated off into

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00:40:26.199 --> 00:40:30.719
our Charles Finnie challenge, so that Charles Finnie messages will

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00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:32.960
be in the sermon's two point oh app challenge. Remember

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all of this. The rest of this weekend, you're supposed

643
00:40:35.320 --> 00:40:37.840
to be looking up sermons on Charles Finny, because Charles

644
00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:41.519
Finni is the father of kind of a modern day revivalism.

645
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A modern day revivalistic ideas come from Charles Finny. Charles

646
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:47.760
Finny was not a Christian. Charles Finny was a complete

647
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and utter heretic. We've already looked at his theology, and

648
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so when you talk about revival, you got to talk

649
00:40:53.199 --> 00:40:56.400
about Charles Finny because many Christians, their views on revival

650
00:40:56.400 --> 00:40:59.360
comes from Finny, and Finny was a complete heretic. All right,

651
00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:01.480
So we've looked, did all of that all of this week.

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All the rest of this weekend, you're going to be

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00:41:03.880 --> 00:41:07.719
listening to sermons this series on Revival. What we will

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00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:12.239
do is anytime I want to review something, there's a

655
00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:15.599
news story about a revival, or there's a sermon about

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00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:18.199
a revival, or if even on the sermons two point

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00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:22.039
oh app hey a church is having revival meetings, we

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00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:25.519
may review some of those messages and we'll just put

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all revival related content probably in this series on Revival.

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That's probably what we will do. Of course, it's always flexible,

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00:41:33.480 --> 00:41:35.679
but we've covered a lot of things and the main

662
00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:38.440
thing I think we've seen is the utter that when

663
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you talk about revival, you almost inevitably are talking about

664
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someone manipulating, twisting and abusing the Book of Acts and

665
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:49.119
creating great philological and harmoneutical error. And how they deal

666
00:41:49.159 --> 00:41:51.639
with the Book of Acts. That is a major, major,

667
00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:56.360
major issue here, all right, And they confuse revival with

668
00:41:56.440 --> 00:42:04.440
moral reform, right, I think I could be repetitive, as

669
00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:06.440
I said at the beginning, sometimes that can be don't

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00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:10.840
want to be. So what's your what's your mission? If

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00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:13.199
you choose to accept it, Well, now you just need

672
00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:15.679
to focus on Charles Finnie. So grab the Sermon's two

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00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:19.280
point oh app look for messages on Charles Finni. We've reviewed,

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we've reviewed kind of a part of one and almost

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00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:25.000
a complete other. So we've already done that review. You

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00:42:25.039 --> 00:42:28.280
see some of the messages on Finnie and the Revival series,

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and you see the other ones in the Sermon's two

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point oh app series. Because while are things kind of

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00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:39.199
morph and they take on different persu you know, different purposes,

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which serves these other series better. So look for all

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00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:46.159
of those messages and uh, yeah, that's what we're gonna

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that's what we're gonna work on all right, Sunday, it

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will all be about the therefore is in the Book

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of Romans. We've looked at the four Greek words that

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are that are that are used, that are translated therefore

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in the Book of Romans, and how they are you

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00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:06.960
have kind of uniquely different focuses. So we've done that.

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Now we're just going to work on the their force

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and hopefully we will see. We're just going to go

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through the entire Book of Romans, and if I said acts,

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I apologize the entire Book of Romans looking at all

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of their force. So that's what else we'll do. I

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don't know if we're gonna get if we can get

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something else done today, we will see. We need to

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get back to Ephesians four. We still got that to

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finish up. So I'm trying to finish up a lot

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of things and then we'll just see what happens. All right,

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Thanks for listening, make it. May it be a fun

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Charles Finny weekend and yeah, there we go. Thanks for listening. Everyone,

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have a great Friday, a great weekend. God bless