Revelation 12

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Looking at our world from a theological
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making Theology Central. Good morning everyone. It is Monday, June the

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twenty fourth, twenty twenty four.
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You've been calling friends and family,
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another episode of Theology Central Radio.
It's been forever. I need another episode

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of Theology Central Radio. Well,
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Central Radio. And if for some
weird reason, you don't know what that

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means, so let me explain.
Theology Central Radio is episodes in which I

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walk over to the door, open
the door, walk down all of the

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stairs, there's a lot of them, down into the archives, the Theology

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Central Archives, and I look around, I blow the dust off everything,

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and I grab something from the past, a sermon from the past, and

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I play it in the present.
And the main reason we do. That

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is because when you've got thousands and
thousands of hours of audio, you know

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a lot of time that that a
lot, not just a lot of time.

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Most of the time, those old
broadcasts are rarely found and listened to.

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Like I get the statistics, I
get the numbers for what people even

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on the Church one platform, Sermon's
two point zero platform, even on all

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the podcasting apps, rarely are people
going all the way through all of your

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you know files. They're not going
through episode after episode after episode, going

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We're going to go all the way
to the first one I can find here.

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They're not going to do that.
So those old, the older things

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just become well forgotten. They collect
dust, and it's like, well,

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I did the work on those.
I want them to still be utilized in

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some way, shape or form.
So what happened is the other day I

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came across a one gigabyte little jump
drive thumb drive, right, things very

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very small, and I'm like,
I wonder what's on this. I haven't

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seen this thing. I don't even
know what. I found it in some

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box somewhere. I'm like, oh, I wonder what this is. So

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I plugged it in and I'm like, oh wow, there's some old files

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on here, so I just grabbed
one. They weren't labeled like the name

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of sermons. They were just labeled
like Sunday morning, Sunday school, Sunday

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night, Wednesday, and just the
date. So this one, I don't

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remember the date on the file.
It was like, I don't know,

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twenty something, twenty fourteen, twenty
thirteen, I don't know, twenty twelve,

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twenty, I don't know, two
thousand and seven. I don't know.

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These are old files, but it
appeared that we were in the Book

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of Revelation. I just started listening
to the very beginning because I believe I

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tell everyone to turn to the Book
of Revelation and Revelation I think chapter twelve.

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So we're just going to go back
and listen for this episode of the

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Theology Central Radio where we go well
pull out from the archives things from the

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past, so hopefully someone can find
some benefit for it in the present.

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That's that's all I'm attempting to do. I mean, just if you look

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on the sermon's two point oh app
just just do you spend the day looking

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around with typically when you're when you're
looking around and now for the Sermon's two

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point oh app challenge. I'm always
telling you to look up something and just

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choose random sermons. In that case, you may be finding some of the

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older sermons look at the dates of
the sermons you're listening to. But most

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of the time, if you're using
the sermons too two point oh app on

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a regular consistent basis, you're probably
looking. I mean, I don't know

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how you find things. I have. Most things in my feed, well

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that's the newest message from whichever broadcaster
I'm following. So I'm just listening to

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new and new and new and new
and new, and rarely do I go

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back and go, oh, these
are If I go to all the broadcasters

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that are currently in my feed today
on the Sermon's two point oh app,

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there's not one of them. I've
went back and started looking at all their

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older broadcasts. I don't so those
broadcasters are just sitting there just collecting,

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in a sense dust. Same thing
with many of your favorite podcasts. Most

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of the podcasts you listen to.
How much do you really go back and

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listen to everything in their archives,
especially because podcasting apps are trash is when

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it comes to old content, you
just have to scroll down at least on

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the church one app and even on
a sermon's two point oh app if you

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look up a broadcaster, at least
everything is broken down into series, which

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is a greater chance someone will find
the series and then go listen to those

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old broadcasts. So I'm always bothered
by that, you know, at least

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for me, because I know the
hours of work that goes into preparing for

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a sermon and then the the you
know, the preaching of it, and

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then you're like okay. But then
what you don't realize is, oh,

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you know what, as soon as
that sermon is over, you know what

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you have to do immediately forget that
sermon. You got to start making getting

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ready for the next sermon, and
then you got to get ready for the

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next sermon, and then you got
to get ready for the next sermon.

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It's just always the next sermon.
The past sermon. Most people forget by,

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you know, by Sunday night if
you preach it Sunday morning. I

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mean, all the statistics say this, most everyone forgets that sermon by Sunday

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night. By Wednesday, it's almost
completely gone. So then it's like,

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what did I even really accomplish in
preaching it, it can become very discouraging.

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Well, when I know I've got
thousands and thousands and thousands of hours

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of content, it's like, well, you know, well, when I've

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always said whenever I'm done broadcasting,
whenever I'm done, don't know when it's

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going to be, I'm just deleting
everything. I don't want anything left behind.

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It's just going to be gone,
because really the content is only for

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the here and now, and I'm
just you know, there's no point in

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keeping it around. It's just going
to be deleted and done and throw it

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all away and move on. And
whatever happened while I when I was broadcasting

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happened and it's over. So but
in the meantime, while I'm still broadcasting,

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then there's times we'll turn on a
microphone, go live and say,

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hey, for Theology Central Radio,
let's reach in to the library, to

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the archives. And here it is. I have the little thumb drive right

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here, one gigabyte of sermons.
Well it's not one gigabyte because there's a

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lot of them on here, but
it's not full, it's not completely full.

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And then I found another jump drive
word that I put that one.

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It looks like a key, looks
like a little key, silver key,

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And I thought, ooh, this
one looks full. But it's just it's

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just notes, notes after notes of
things that I was working on studying,

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just devotional notes, just note after
note after note after it's just a I

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mean, I don't even know.
I mean, probably two three thousand,

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just notes that just little things,
maybe devotional thoughts, just little thing so

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that. But there's no audio on
that one. There's no audio on that

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one. But here we go.
Are you ready? Let's do this.

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Let's go back to two thousand and
something. I don't know exactly what year

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I should have written the year down. I know it was a it was

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the Sunday morning service, so Sunday
school had ended, so now we're doing

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the Sunday morning service. I know
that it says Sunday morning eight. So

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it was the eighth day of some
month. Don't know what month, and

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don't know what year. But and
it may not even be any good,

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Okay. The reason it may be
on a jump drive it never went anywhere

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else is because it's trash. I
don't know. Here we go, ladies

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and gentlemen, we're going to go
to the sanctuary. Victory Baptist Church somewhere

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in the past to listen to a
message and the present that hopefully that past

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message will have some present benefit.
Thank you for listening. Here we go

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all right this morning for Sunday School
we deal with indoctrination, manipulation, dogma,

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propaganda, and now we turn our
attention to Revelation chapter twelve, where

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we've tried our best to the Book
of Revelation to avoid and doctrination, manipulation,

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propaganda. We have tried to be
dogmatic on a few issues. But

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if you consider we've been looking at
eschatology for what now multiple years, and

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we have how many things written down
is dogmatic? About eight? I think

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that's that's pretty small considering every other
church. Ten. We're up to ten

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dogmatic things, where any other church
everything that they would have said for three

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years they would believe is dogmatic.
So I think that that's I think I

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would just want you to see the
different approach, because in most churches,

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every sermon is preached as if it
is dogma. And what I try to

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teach you here is that I may
say a lot in an hour, but

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there may only be one thing dogmatic
in the entire six months that I preach

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okay, which drives some people crazy
or no, it drives some people crazy,

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and others don't get it because others
think everything I'm saying I'm claiming is

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dogmatic because they don't understand that a
lot of times, I'm simply challenging the

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way you think. But that's you
know, if you have to explain what

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you're doing, then at some point
there's just no point. Okay, So

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I don't usually explain what I'm doing. I just hope that you'll catch on.

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But in Revelation chapter twelve, we're
going to once again try to avoid

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those negative things and see if we
can be well. We haven't really been

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dogmatic about it about anything other than
the We haven't really put it down as

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dogma, but we I think we
feel pretty dogmatic on the identity of most

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of the of the main characters in
chapter twelve. Who are what are the

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name the main characters? For me? We have the woman, we have

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the dragon, and the child.
Out of those three we've carefully looked at

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two, have we not? We've
looked at the woman. We had three

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basic options to identify the woman,
and those three options were Israel, the

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Church, and Mary the one that
we can be pretty dogmatic about throwing out.

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Why can we throw that one out? The woman gives birth to Christ?

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To Christ, okay, to the
Church did not give birth to Christ.

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So we can throw that one out
and we can be relatively dogmatic.

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Whateveryone agree on that. I don't
think there's any disagreement there. If you

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think the church gave birth to Christ, then you know than I we got

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we got some problems, all right, So everybody got that it being marry?

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What what? What's some of the
issues with it being married? Yeah,

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unless we try to put the fling
into the wilderness when when she took

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the child of Jesus into Egypt?
Right, But we don't know how long

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they were there, and so we
would have because here specifically says they were

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there for how long? Three and
a half years, So we would have

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to specifically say that they were to
prove that she was there for three and

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a half years, which I don't
know if we can accomplish that, and

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that because if we if we don't
make that three and a half years literal,

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then we're left with well, if
that's not literal, then then what

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is literal? So that Remember,
we've been down that path before, so

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we think that there's a pretty good
argument by making the woman Israel for what

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what were some of the reasons We
think it fits the description? Right,

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Remember that description with the sun.
The moon takes us back to Genesis.

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Okay, where we have a description
of the brothers. We have the description

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of the father and of the mother, and the father's name Jacob was changed

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to Israel, and the brothers are
the tribes of Israel. So it definitely

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fits that was Israel described as a
woman. Yes, over and over and

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over again. We talked about all
of that all right, So that I

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just want to stress that I think
we were pretty confident of that. With

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the dragon, we don't have any
major issues with the dragon. I don't

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think anyone does. What's probably the
most important thing, the kind of the

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thing that there's lots of assumptions.
Let's go to verse two or verse three,

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And there appeared another wonder in heaven, and behold a great red dragon,

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having seven heads, ten horns,
and seven crowns upon his heads.

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I read from a commentary that kind
of explained what those horns and crowns could

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represent. There. I'm not gonna
be dogmatic on in any way, shape

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or form. I'm not gonna be. I'm not even gonna pretend to be

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dogmatic about it. The horns tip
typically, though, we think, are

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used to describe what kings, kingdoms, right, kingdoms, nations, authority

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right, okay? And crown typically
represents some type of ruling or authority as

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well, So we have some type
of ruling connected with earthly kingdoms. Would

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everyone at least think that that's probably
a fair assumption. In other words,

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we don't have to get specific.
In other words, some people will try

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to identify which each horn represents.
I think we can say crowns and horns

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represent authority and earthly kingdoms or possibly
nations. Everybody, okay with that?

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Okay, we can look at that. Well, let's go to Revelation seventeen

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nine through twelve. That may give
some confirmation to this idea. Which the

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more confirmation we have, the better. Right. And if you look at

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verse twelve, and the ten horns
which thou sawest are ten kings, everybody

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see that the ten horns are ten
kings which have received no kingdom as yet,

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but received powers kings one hour with
the beast. See the idea.

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So I think we can be pretty
pretty fair with that in Revelation twelve.

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So we kind of have an idea
that this dragon, right, who we

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believe is Satan, has with him
the control of what he has authority over.

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It appears nations, which is somewhat
we would believe is biblical. Right.

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What is he sometimes referred to as
in the Bible the prints of the

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air, but with another term,
okay, sent a tradition God of this

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world? Do theody know that phrase? Do they know where that phrase is

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located? Let's see if we can
find it. See if we can find

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it, because you may want to
write that down as a cross reference here.

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We'll see who can find it first. You'll get fifty dollars from Bobby,

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not for me. I would start, possibly with a Pauline epistle.

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That would probably narrow it down.
That needs you don't need Matthew, Mark,

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Luke and John okay, don't need
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John or Peter Okay, we'll throw
out Hebrews as being written by paul even

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though if Becka was here, she
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a heretic, all right, So
that leaves you, that leaves you not

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too many? Right? Okay,
how about looking do what very good?

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I'd see that those Second Corinthians four
four, those handheld devices sure make Bible

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study unfair these days. Okay.
Back in my day, we didn't have

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this crazy electronic stuff and we had
to look it up. Okay, did

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that? Does that sound like old
people? Okay? Second Corinthians, chapter

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four, verse three. But if
our gospel be hit, it's hit unto

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them that are lost. Okay,
why is it hid? Okay? In

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whom the God of this world hath
blinded the minds of them which believe,

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not most believe. That's a reference
to whom Satan. So if he's the

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god of this world known as the
Prince of the Air, then we could

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argue that Satan seems to have some
influence and control over nations, which seems

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to fit. Why does it seem
to fit he offered Jesus kingdoms. That's

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good, that's a good argument.
But in both passages that some people believe

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refer to the fall of and Isaiah
and Ezekiel, who is utilized as an

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illustration earthly kings. Remember King of
Tire, So I remember that? So

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so that seems to me that Satan
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through what through earthly kingdoms? Now, I want to make sure you get

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that through your it's in your head
this morning, okay, through your thick

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skulls this morning. Okay. I
want to make sure everybody gets this.

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This is a very critical way of
thinking that puts us like can make us

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look like kooks from the world's perspective. In other words, when we see

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the world at work and we see
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is possible that those nations can represent
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and move forth his agenda. Now, what's the danger of beloe leaving that?

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Yeah, you can start thinking everyone
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don't have any evidence of that.
But well let's let's let's so when we

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think of earthly kingdoms, I want
us to consider. May write this down,

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Just write down earthly kingdoms. I
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points. Okay, First and foremost, what's the number one influential factor in

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nations and in kings? Depravity?
What everyone agree with that the number one

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influential thing inside a nation and inside
kings are is depravity? Why because what

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is the how does the Bible describe
the human heart desperately wicked and deceitful above

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all things? So guess what nations
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them depravity. So when you so, whenever we look at the political world

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and we look at what's happening in
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work? Depravity? We see selfishness, selfishness, we see greed, we

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see you know, all kinds of
things. That's why. That's how come

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there is a tendency in the in
our world that the world is never going

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to come together and work together because
everyone has depravity. And what's the very

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essence of depravity? What's the middle
letter of sin I greed, selfishness us

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me. So that's that's how that
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the most important of factors and influence
and a nation and in kings is depravity.

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What would be a second great influence
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Cultural philosophy. Nations tend to be
influenced by what the cultural philosophy that is

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dominating the times and the majority of
people. What's one of the cultural philosophies

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that is clearly dominating society today in
twenty seventeen. Moral relativism. Okay,

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right, so we see that a
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a very kind of weird moral relativism
that sometimes makes no sense. Giving an

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example, a great example in our
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a this can't be applied to every
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consider the weird way laws are written
in our country. Right, if a

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woman gets pregnant, she and our
country is legally has a right to go

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to an abortion clinic and have that
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the baby. However, if a
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pregnant, and it's a Friday night, and they get in a fight and

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he begins to beat her and she
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charged with Now that's kind of cuckoo
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on who made the choice to terminate
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being terminated. Is is it alive
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alive, then it's murder no matter
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moral relativism. Then guess what happens. You have inconsistency and morality. You

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have everyone's doing right in their own
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the the nation. That's where the
nation goes with. Well, there was

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a large push to you know,
accept a certain practice. Do you see

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how that works? So so,
and and you have to understand within a

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nation, moral relativism is the is
the way a nation operates because the nation

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constantly changes its views based off the
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majority opinion leads nations to be engaged
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we need to get a history book
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And you're like, how could they
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How could we as a nation have
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hundreds? How could we have done
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we have enslaved people? How could
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have done that? Because if the
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that behavior becomes what it becomes moral, So then the nation operates that

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way. And if the nation is
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to greatly call into question that the
morality found within the nation. Do you

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see the problem? Okay? All
right? And then the third major controlling

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factor of nations would be what Satan? Now does Satan have to do?

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A lot doesn't really have to be
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I'm trying to show you those two
factors before Satan is because sometime, especially

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on prophecy teaching, they'll be like, this nation is a tool of Satan.

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I'm like, yeah, but America
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for a lot of things we've done, right, I mean, because all

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nations have, So you got to
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then I want to throw a fourth
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we struggle. Just this has nothing
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what I hate about my kindle is
as soon as it turns off, it

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shows advertisements for books. And as
soon as I see advertisements for books,

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I stop thinking about anything you people
care about, and I'm like, I

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need to read that book. I
need to write that down. Okay.

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So I hate when it turns off
because there's not a I can't see an

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advertisement for a book that I don't
want to read. Okay, literally,

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okay, so that's bad. So
I think that they can put those advertisements

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for people like me and like a
buy that book, buy that book,

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buy that book, buy that book. And they're like, you've and a

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million dollars. You're now in debt. So Amazon owns my life. Right.

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So, But a fourth thing that
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to kind of see a conflict here
is God's sovereignty. Now here's the weird

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thing and a roundabout way. If
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have a story of two opposing ideas. On one hand, we have man's

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depravity, man's moral relativism, Satan
all working together to do things that are

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completely contrary to what God true.
That's that That entire history from Genesis following

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ever since Adam and Eve send every
everything is just a constant struggle of it

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can be a person, or it
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to God's law, God's standards.
Everything and are in conflict with God.

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In the Book of Revelation, all
of these competing ideas come to they merge

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together. Right. I don't know
how many movies you watch, but or

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books you read. But sometimes in
a book or sometimes in a movie,

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you will the movie starts and you
have like three or four it seems unrelated

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stories or ideas all being presented,
and you're kind of like, it goes

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from here. Then it flashes to
hear, and it flashes to hear,

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and it flashes to hear and you
don't really quite understand. But before it's

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all over, it does what.
It brings them all together. The quality

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the talent of the writer is the
ability to keep you interested in all four

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and then have a way to merge
them together. The Bible merges these two

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new ideas together. What do we
find in the Book of Revelation? Well,

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who starts showing prominence over how nations
are being run Satan? But who's

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gonna ultimately step in? God?
So it's almost like God's life. You

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can run around, but guests who's
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similar to Psalm's chapter two, Right, good and turn a Psalm two.

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You can kind of see the concept
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Why do the heathen rage and the
people imagine a v ainything? The

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kings of the Earth set themselves,
and the rulers take counsel together against the

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Lord and against his anointed, saying, let us break their bands asunder,

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cast away their chords from us.
But how does God react to all of

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this? And what is he?
Ultimately? What does God do? He

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sets a king? Who's that king? God says Jesus Christ, And I

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will declare thee. The Lord has
sent it to me. Thou art my

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son this day? Have I begotten
thee? Please note that can lead to

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lots of major false teachings of Jesus. Just understand that. But what does

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he do? Ask for me?
And I shall give thee a heathen for

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thine inheritance. And they are in
most parts of the earth for thy possession.

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Thou shalt break them with a rod
of iron, Thou shalt dash them

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in pieces like a potter's vessel.
Please note those words carefully. They're going

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to come back to play quickly here
in the Book of Revelation. All right,

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that God realizes the world is out
of control. He has sovereignly allowed

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a lot of this, probably restricted
certain aspects. You have depravity, you

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have moral relativism, you have satan. And then all of a sudden who's

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going to come in and be placed
to stop all of it, Christ who

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will establish a earthly kingdom. You
see how all of the stories run together.

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That's that I want to make sure
you understand that. So when when

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you go to the Book of Revelation
or in the Book of Daniel and you

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hear the beast and it has this
many horns and this many crowns, and

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you're trying to figure out, well, well, that could be Russia,

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and that could be China, and
that could be this, and that could

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be that, and that could be
a revived Roman Empire and that could be

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You'll you'll go cuckoo for coco puffs
trying to determine the nations and you'll be

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like, okay, wait where are
those nations? To say, oh wait,

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the European Union, the European Remember
at one point everybody thought the European

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Union was that, and then there
was too many nations and then there were

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nations who left and they're like,
well now there's not enough nations, so

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now it doesn't fit. Don't get
caught up in all of that. You'll

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go crazy. What do you just
simply need to understand Satan has power and

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authority to influence nations. That's what
you need to take from it. If

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you start trying to identify the nations
you'll like, it'll your chart will have

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to be written in pencil, because
the nation you think now is the nation

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we need to focus on be a
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everyone thought we were gonna be nuked
by Russia, right, the whole world

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was scared of Russia. Then Russia
kind of went to insignificant. Then everyone

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was worried about China. Now everyone's
worried about North Korea. Okay, I

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mean, not much of a threat, and the big scheme of things.

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They're a big threat maybe to Guam
or to South Korea. Who's the bigger

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threat China if we make If we
go after North Korea and we make chinamed,

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they own most of our debt,
they bankrupt the United I won't get

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into je politics, but okay,
a lot of issues there to consider that

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most people don't even think about.
Right, they own a good portion of

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our debt, so they could literally, like help destroy America without even firing

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a missile. Okay, that's a
frightening thought. Okay, when you get

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into debt to foreign nations, that
puts you. What does the Bible say

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about debt makes you a slave?
Oh wow, that's interesting. Okay,

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so but please see how all that
works. So sometimes the nation that everyone

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has panned, that's the bear,
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Those prophecy teachers typically end up looking
what foolish. Don't play that game

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when you see the horns. I
know your first side is I must identify

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them. No, you simply have
to realize it's picturing Satan having power and

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influence over Has everybody got that?
All? Right? Now we can go

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back to the Book of Revelation.
That was all free. You didn't have

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to pay any extra for any of
that. But just when you're talking to

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people not Christians, just be careful
but you start throwing out Satan in charge

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of nations, because they're going to
think you're cuckoo for cocoa puffs. You

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can focus on depravity and moral relativism
and then maybe at some point we're not

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afraid of it. But just when
you say, oh, Satan is in

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control of that nation, First,
don't identify the nations because you don't know.

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And second, just that can sound
really crazy, but it does change

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how you perceive the world. Would
you agree you believe there's another force operation?

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You believe there are two forces in
operation that a lot of people in

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the world don't acknowledge, and that
that can make you look a little crazy.

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All right, now, all of
that, then what happens. He's

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got the crown, he's got the
heads. But here's the verse four,

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who is very critical. His tell
drew the third part of the stars of

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heaven, and it cast them to
the earth. I'll stop right there.

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What is probably most significant about that
action? There's a good Bible student.

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What's the most significant thing about the
action as described there in that verse?

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I'm going to argue the timing of
this becomes critical. Why. Well,

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because we're trying to identify We can
understand the drawing a third of the angels

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away the stars. We understand that
to be some form of a rebellion.

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What every one seemed to agree that
that's how it's described. So it's not

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really hard to interpret the action.
The issue is trying to interpret maybe which

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when did this occur? Well in
the text, what's the chronology of the

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occurrence? What does it come before
it comes? It happens before Jesus is

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brought into the world, So that
means it has to happen before the birth

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of Christ, all right, Now, why is that critical? Because that

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means this is not some future battle
in heaven that occurs later, So we

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can put this where somewhere in the
past. Does that make sense? That's

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critical because there's going to be another
war that's mentioned later on, right,

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So are they the same war or
are they different? That's what I'm trying

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to set you up to consider.
Can somebody see that this one we have

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a timetable, do we not?
I don't think there's any disagreement here.

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Everyone agrees that there's a clear timetable
set there. He draws, he draws

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it away because what's going to happen. He draws the third part of the

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stars of heaven. And they did
cast him to the earth. And then

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the dragon stood before the woman,
which was ready to be delivered for to

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devour her child as soon as it
was born. So the dragon was already

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here. Now, when as soon
as Satan begins his earthly ministry, who

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shows up? But in fact,
before he begins his earthly ministry, Satan

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shows up to tempt him. So
the dragon clearly is already present. And

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what else does Jesus encounter throughout his
earthly ministry deemingly possessed people, clearly demonstrating

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the stars had fallen and come to
earth. Soybody got that? So that

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that makes it? Uh, that
makes it absolutely essential to the story.

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All right, so far, so
good. All right, now here I'm

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gonna be again to go through what
the this commentary has to say. They

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give us verse five and six.
Verse. Let's read verse five. And

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she brought forth a manchild who was
to rule all nations with a rod of

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iron. Stop right there, that's
a reference to Psalm chapter two. That's

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critical. Now why is it critical
that this child is going to rule the

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nations? Remember one of the major
things in Bible studies compare and contrast.

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What was the major emphasis on the
dragon, crowns and horns? Right?

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This seems to be connected to what
ruling in nations? But I remember that.

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Okay, she brings forth the child. The child is going to rule

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how many nations? Right? Does
it say ten? Does say seven?

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No? What's that? Seem to
imply that the authority of Satan is going

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to be what made subservient to this
child who's going to rule over all the

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nations, and how is he going
to do so with a rod of iron?

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That is a very specific illustration,
is it not. Do you see

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there these right here in Revelation?
All the story of the Bible is now

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comes it collides. You've had nations
and people operating in opposition to God.

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God now has said, okay,
he's laughed at all of these attempts.

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In Psalm chapter two, here's his
son, and at some point he steps

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in and says, now I take
over. You've had your ability, Now

448
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I take over. Now. Some
could read that and be not very happy

449
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with that. Well, that's an
egotistical God who's afraid of people's freedom.

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Or others can say about time you
showed up, because nothing but chaos has

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been going on for thousands upon thousands
of years, and there's been pain,

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suffering and death. I wish you
would have shown up earlier. Okay,

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But everyone should have a reaction to
that. That verse should cause a reaction

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in you one way or the other. Right now, let's see what they

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have to say. There's a lot
more we could take apart, but we'll

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get there. In spite of all
Satan's relentless efforts to prevent it. The

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woman Israel gave birth to a son, the incarnation of the male child,

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the Lord Jesus Christ, who was
born of a descendant of David. According

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to the Flesh, was the fulfillment
of prophecy Israel brought forth the Messiah.

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The Bible emphasizes that Jesus was of
Jewish lineage. He was a son of

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Abraham, a member of the tribe
of Judah, and the descendant of David.

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I'm not going to quote all the
scriptures to prove all of that.

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If you need to prove all of
that, I don't know what just said.

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So let's go through that again.
The idea is that the Israel gives

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birth to the to the son,
and the reason why is over and over

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and over. It's emphasized that Jesus
came from the from Israel, from the

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Jews, and let's go through them. He was a son of Abraham,

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right Matthew, Chapter one, verse
one. If you need to look at

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that, just if you want to
look at it quickly, just to make

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sure you realize I'm not making stuff
up, because you may think I'm crazy,

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and who knows what you think.
Half the time, the book of

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the generation of Jesus Christ, the
son of David, the son of all

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Right, there you go, clear, Okay, son Abraham, he was

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a member of the tribe of Judah. Okay, everybody know that. We

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can we can find that if we
go from Genesis to Mica to Revelation,

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we can demonstrate that he was a
descendant of David. We just read that

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in Matthew one one. Everybody got
that. So please note that's clearly demonstrating

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the Messiah comes from whom Israel that
destroys the woman being the Church. Ready,

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got that? All right, now, so just let me back this

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up and read this all again.
Israel brought forth the Messiah. The Bible

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emphasized that Jesus was of Jewish lineage. Nor will Satan be able to hinder

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Christ's coronation. He will rule all
nations with a rod of iron during his

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earthly kingdom. All right, let's
look at a number. Let's go back

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to Revelation twelve. Revelation twelve,
look at verse ten. And I heard

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a loud voice saying in heaven,
now is come salvation and strength and the

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kingdom of our God and the power
of His Christ. For the accuser of

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our brethren is cast down, which
accused them before our God day and night.

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Clearly, what's demonstrating again is what
Satan is put down. Christ is

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exalted, the one with all its
power, with the one who had the

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control of nations. He loses everything, and Christ is put in the right,

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rightful place. Any any questions there
no good, Okay, I'm not

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gonna go. They quote all kinds
of verses in Revelation seeing this exact same

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principle. We've already looked at Psalm
chapter two. They quote Psalm chapter two.

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We've already looked at that. This
indicates that this rule is a breaking,

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a shattering work of judgment. In
fact, the verb here carries the

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coronation of the connotation of destroy as
it does in other parts of the Bible.

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So he's coming to rule to destroy, He's coming to take it.

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In other words, it's not going
to be a peaceful change of power,

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which we've already seen in the Book
of Revelation. Right has there been a

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lot of peace going on. There's
been Plagu's death and destruction. So he's

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taking it back. The Messiah will
come to destroy all the nations go to

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Revelation chapter nineteen. Just to see
how complete this will be. Revelation chapter

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nineteen. I want you to really
drink this. In what we're about to

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read, I saw heaven opened.
I behold a white horse, And he

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that sat upon him was called faithful
and true, and in righteousness he doth

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judge and make war. His eyes
were as flame a fire. On his

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head were many crowns. He had
a name written that no man knew,

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But he himself was clothed with a
vesture dipped in blood. And his name

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is called the Word of God.
And the armies which were in heaven followed

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him upon white horses, clothed and
fine linen, white and clean. And

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out of his mouth go with a
sharp sword, that with it he should

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smite the nations, and he shall
rule them with a rod of iron.

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Does that sound familiar? Right?
See, I'm trying to read slow because

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I read too fast. I'm trying. And he treadeth the wine press of

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the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. You know, reading that slow?

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How painful that is. I really
really want to start crying right now,

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Okay, because I could read this
whole book like than ten minutes, all

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right, And he hath on his
vesture and on his thigh a name written

519
00:41:55.679 --> 00:42:00.480
King of Kings and Lord of Lords. And I saw an angel standing in

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the sun, and he cried with
a loud voice, saying, to all

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the fowls that fly in the midst
of heaven, come and gather yourselves together

522
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onto the supper of the Great God. Now that's a disturbing verse when you

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have an angel saying, hey,
birds, I need you all to come

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to a certain location because you're getting
ready to eat. And what you're getting

525
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ready to eat is not going to
be bird seed. What are they getting

526
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ready to eat of that? You
may eat the flesh of kings. Now,

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sometimes people are like, I don't
like certain movies because they're too gory.

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This is pretty gory here, Okay, that's pretty You're gonna eat the

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flesh of whom. I want you
to just emphasize that whom kings. Satan

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has crowns and horns that represent authority
and kingdoms. The kings are getting ready

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to be eaten by birds, right, not the Hitchcock film, but okay,

532
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:05.199
right, those special effects are really
bad, okay. And the flesh

533
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of captains and the flesh of mighty
men going after what they're gonna eat,

534
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the flesh of authority, right,
what else? Yeah, poor horses.

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I'm glad Jessica's not here this morning
because Jessica would not like this. Okay,

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all right, yeah, I mean
the horses. That then the flesh

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of all of all men, both
free bond, both small and great.

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The birds are coming to partake of
everyone. That's a horrific image. You're

539
00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:42.480
like, there's no way to to
you know, let's hate kids. Let's

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00:43:42.519 --> 00:43:45.320
draw a picture of this for Sunday
School. You're like, that's not the

541
00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:49.079
art people hand out Sunday School for
kids to draw, but it's it's there.

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And what is this demonstrating the Satan
with all his power, with all

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his authority, and the earth can
run around with all their moral relativism,

544
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they can run around doing everything they
want, but the time is coming that

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heaven is going to open, and
the one that God has established as the

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true king is going to come and
lay waste to everyone that they now become

547
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simply bird food. That's a disturbing
image. Verse nineteen and I saw the

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beast and the kings of the Earth
and their armies gathered together to make war

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against him that set on the horse, and against his army. And the

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beast was taken, and with him
the false prophet that wrought miracles before him,

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that which he deceived them that had
received the mark of the beast,

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and then that worshiped the image that
were cast alive into a lake of fire,

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burning with brimstone. All right,
all, so, what two powers

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is being destroyed here? Earthly and
spiritual? What did the beast have crowns

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and horns which represents his spirit ritual
of power over earthly power? What's now

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him? What is Christ getting rid
of? Both right and the remnant were

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slain with the sword of him that
set upon the horse, which sword proceeded

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out of his mouth, and all
the fowls were filled with their flesh.

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And then immediately after all the earthly
powers are destroyed, after Satan is thrown

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and the false prophet are thrown into
the lake of fire. Then what takes

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place in chapter twenty a new kingdom
is established, A new kingdom is established.

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So this child is the one who's
going to bring everything under subjection to

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him? Which is that not what
we read in the Bible about Christ,

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that God is going to make all
of his enemies his footstool, that he

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that everything is going to be brought
under him. Now, just think this

566
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through. You only have two options
and how this happens. Option number one

567
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the a millennial option that all happens
when and where we're a part of it.

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Right now, that's happening right now
in the church. Do you see

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the church having power and influence over
all the nations of the world, Give

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me a break. Especially, we
have a little less now than we've ever

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had in history the church. I
mean, nations have become Look, go

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to the UK. There are churches
now they're just they've turned into all kinds

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of some of them will become mosque. Okay. The church in the UK

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has lost all influence and power.
In the United States, the church is

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almost a laughing stock, right,
I mean, the church is running around

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like, oh, we'll make the
world love us by having you know,

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seeker sensitive, and we've lost everything. But the point so there's no way

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00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:45.239
to say that this is the church, that the church it's going. It's

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the idea that the church is emphasizing. It's that we're in the millennial Kingdom.

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Now we're not in the millennial Jesus
hasn't come out of heaven and destroying

581
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everyone, and that people aren't being
eaten by birds through the through the preaching

582
00:46:58.119 --> 00:47:01.079
of the church. Okay, if
that's the preaching of the church, man,

583
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I've better start becoming a lot meaner
in my preaching because I need job

584
00:47:05.920 --> 00:47:07.519
to be so destroyed that birds come
in and start eating you. Okay,

585
00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:12.400
that's okay, that that people think
I'm mean. I was just trying to

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00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:14.480
be a good millennialist, That's what
I was trying to do. I was

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00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:17.039
trying to preach this way. Okay, So that's that's not happened. And

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what's the other way of it occurring
literally? And if it's literal, well

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we got it's not happened yet,
all right, anybody there? And iron,

590
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iron rod is also one that cannot
be broken. Just just as all

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of Satan's past efforts to hinder have
feled, so also will his future efforts

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00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:45.360
fell. The phrase rod of iron
speaks of his resoluteness of Christ rule.

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He will swiftly and immediately judge all
sin and put down any rebellion Between christ

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incarnation and his coronation. Came his
exaltation when he was caught up to God

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and to his throne at his ascension. Christ exaltation signifies the father's acceptance of

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his work of redemption. Go back
to chapter twelve. You can kind of

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see what they're referring to here.
He brought forth a man child who was

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to rule all nations with a rot
of iron. Note who was to note?

599
00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:20.239
Who was to when he came,
he was to do that. It

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00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:23.960
didn't happen yet, right, and
he and the child was caught up under

601
00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:29.519
God and to his throne. So
you have the incarnation and then you have

602
00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:37.519
the ascension, right, any problem
there? And from there he's going to

603
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:43.280
come back to do what, to
take over and to rule right what?

604
00:48:43.519 --> 00:48:47.760
But please note, okay, oh
man, this is good, this is

605
00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:52.159
good. All right. If y'all
don't act like like this is the most

606
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:53.760
awesome thing you've ever heard, I'm
going to be offended and I'm never coming

607
00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:58.760
back, okay, because it just
hit me the thought, right, think

608
00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:04.920
of how this worked. Satan came
into the garden, right, and he

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00:49:05.079 --> 00:49:09.400
caused Adam and Eve to fall.
Right. By causing them to fall,

610
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he established what kind of authority over
man spiritual? Because now man became depraved

611
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he established a spiritual authority right at
that point. Once that is, once

612
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he established the spiritual authority, then
he began to work in and through governments

613
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and nations to establish a earthly power
and earthly rule. Christ came the first

614
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time as a child to die to
establish a spiritual authority over man. Through

615
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men being born again and dwelt with
the Holy Spirit, he will come again

616
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to do what establish a earthly power
and authority. See the contrast between the

617
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two. See how that works.
You have to first establish the spiritual right

618
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before you can have the earthly.
A millennial kingdom ruled with people who are

619
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not regenerate would is going to be
a pretty bad millennial kingdom, right,

620
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everybody got that heaven without regenerate people, I mean, or they're glorified people.

621
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So I think I think this is
bringing out that contrast. I don't

622
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know, I don't know if you've
ever considered that contrast, but I think

623
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that's a pretty awesome Okay, good
Diana, at least, well we'll we'll,

624
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we'll appease my male ego. Okay, Right, I think that's I

625
00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:47.599
think that's I really think that's a
very important in spiritual spirit Okay, that's

626
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when he started, because the spiritual
always precedes the earthly right there, and

627
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that establishes the spiritual rule. And
then he starts working through nations because you

628
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don't have any nations yet with your
Satam? Does that make sense? And

629
00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:07.280
it gets how bad? Does it
get? Right? Well, get to

630
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Genesis six. He's now he's taken
over the whole earth and around it,

631
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and so God has to step back
in at different times, and and you

632
00:51:16.360 --> 00:51:20.119
can go on and on and uh, when Egypt, how bad was Egypt?

633
00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:23.440
I mean they were gonna start drowning
people's babies, right, that's pretty

634
00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:27.239
evil. When go on and on
and on and on and on and on

635
00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:30.880
Satan constantly but he what, how
how is Satan able to accomplish the earthly

636
00:51:30.960 --> 00:51:40.159
control through spiritual? Spiritual control must
precede the earthly control. That's the way

637
00:51:40.199 --> 00:51:46.280
it must work. It's it's the
that's the Christian philosophy on on. Uh,

638
00:51:46.400 --> 00:51:53.119
societal change. Societal change does not
come simply by establishing an earthly rule.

639
00:51:53.559 --> 00:52:00.519
What happens so many times we've seen
that earthly dictators establish an earthly rule.

640
00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:06.679
But what typically happens to earthly dictators
They get overthrown. In many cases

641
00:52:06.920 --> 00:52:09.920
people rise up and kill them.
Right, what's the way to produce change?

642
00:52:12.159 --> 00:52:16.320
Spiritual change that occurs within now makes
it the ability for people to obey

643
00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:22.599
and follow certain ideas. Does that
make sense? Like prohibition wasn't going to

644
00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:27.920
work because prohibition was an external law
and forced upon depraved people. If people

645
00:52:28.119 --> 00:52:31.559
are regenerate and changed, I would
hope one of the key signs of regeneration

646
00:52:31.599 --> 00:52:37.519
would be a different approach to alcohol. I would hope at least some point

647
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:40.639
there would at least be moderation.
Okay, you know, if not avoidance,

648
00:52:42.079 --> 00:52:45.400
I think there would be a massive
change, like a Christian like does

649
00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:47.119
that? Everybody see how that works? So what Satan? Did he establish

650
00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:52.320
the spiritual boom? Now you're depraved. Now I can come in use that

651
00:52:52.360 --> 00:52:58.800
depravity to establish my earthly Jesus came, died to establish a spiritual kingdom,

652
00:52:58.960 --> 00:53:01.039
and that what we're all a part
of a cant That's the all millennialist argument

653
00:53:01.039 --> 00:53:04.639
all the time. It's not an
earthly kingdom, it's not You're right,

654
00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:07.400
it wasn't an earthly kingdom. It
was a spiritual kingdom made up of regenerate

655
00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:13.800
people. Right, But guess what, He's gonna come back and set up

656
00:53:13.800 --> 00:53:20.039
in earthly just like Satan did.
That's that's good stuff here. That's that's

657
00:53:20.119 --> 00:53:24.199
really good stuff, all right.
That's that wasn't even in my notes,

658
00:53:24.440 --> 00:53:29.639
not that I have any notes,
because I don't. Who needs notes,

659
00:53:29.960 --> 00:53:34.280
all right, So I just my
brain, Okay. So I think that

660
00:53:34.519 --> 00:53:37.880
if you get anything from this morning, take that concept with you, because

661
00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:39.800
we haven't fleshed it out. We
haven't. We haven't. I mean,

662
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:43.840
I kind of just gave you the
skeleton there of an idea. But if

663
00:53:43.880 --> 00:53:46.360
you start putting the flesh on that, I think you can really that can

664
00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:51.280
really change the way you perceive a
lot of things, the way you perceive

665
00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:54.039
everything. I'll try to finish the
rest of the section. But though he

666
00:53:54.119 --> 00:53:58.480
is a defeated folk speaking of Satan, Satan will not give up. Unable

667
00:53:58.519 --> 00:54:02.320
to stop Christ's birth a sense or
rule, Satan still assaults his people.

668
00:54:02.440 --> 00:54:07.719
He has already instigated the genocidal massacre
of Jews in Europe, as well as

669
00:54:07.719 --> 00:54:13.559
the death of countless thousands throughout history. During the Tribulation, Satan will increase

670
00:54:13.599 --> 00:54:17.000
his efforts to destroy the Jewish people
so that the nation cannot be saved,

671
00:54:17.119 --> 00:54:22.719
as the Bible promises, right,
and so that there will be none left

672
00:54:22.760 --> 00:54:25.039
alive to enter the millennial kingdom.
He will seek to kill believing Jews.

673
00:54:25.239 --> 00:54:29.360
As always, Israel will be his
prime target. And a brief glimpse of

674
00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:36.119
of what will be described more fully
later on in the chapter, John noted

675
00:54:36.119 --> 00:54:38.760
that the woman fled into the wilderness
well where she had a place prepared by

676
00:54:38.800 --> 00:54:44.599
God, so that she would be
nourished for one thousand, two hundred and

677
00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:50.679
sixty days. Now, what is
critical about when the woman flees? When

678
00:54:50.719 --> 00:54:57.159
does the woman flee after the ascension? Why is that critical? It's not

679
00:54:57.280 --> 00:55:00.239
that that removes it from being married, right, because the one time we

680
00:55:00.320 --> 00:55:04.000
know Mary flee, they flee,
they go into Egypt, and that's when

681
00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:07.840
he was still a child, all
right, So that seems to destroy that

682
00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:12.400
idea. See the time. You
see why I've said so many times when

683
00:55:12.880 --> 00:55:15.639
we first started Revelation, I heard
you to read and write down all time

684
00:55:15.719 --> 00:55:21.239
references, right, because chronology helps
with your interpretation. If you establish a

685
00:55:21.320 --> 00:55:28.039
chronology, the chronology eliminates other possible
interpretations. That's why so many, so

686
00:55:28.119 --> 00:55:31.079
many systems of harmoneutics wants to tell
you that there's no chronology in the Book

687
00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:37.000
of Revelation. If there's no chronology, then you can interpret it more freely.

688
00:55:37.480 --> 00:55:43.639
Once you establish chronology, you then
begin to destroy some means of interpretation.

689
00:55:44.039 --> 00:55:45.159
I hope everything makes sense. All
right, We'll stop right there,

690
00:55:45.400 --> 00:55:50.159
because I think I've already given you
a lot of good stuff to think about,

691
00:55:51.360 --> 00:55:58.519
right, any questions, So what
I want you to hopefully I help

692
00:55:58.599 --> 00:56:01.119
you feel the impact that in a
roundabout way, when you get to Revelation

693
00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:05.679
twelve. Like let's say you have
just read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation

694
00:56:05.760 --> 00:56:08.800
twelve. When you get to chapter
twelve and you start seeing this description,

695
00:56:09.159 --> 00:56:15.119
it's almost like it's all it's like
finding the climax to the book, Like

696
00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:21.239
it's all coming to a conclusion.
The dramatic end is happening, right,

697
00:56:21.320 --> 00:56:27.480
And every story, the key of
the story is what the conclusion. Right,

698
00:56:27.519 --> 00:56:30.840
The conclusion of the story is the
most dramatic part. That's the most

699
00:56:30.920 --> 00:56:35.760
dramatic part. And when you get
when you read your book. When you

700
00:56:35.800 --> 00:56:37.119
read a book, I hope you
don't get to the last chapter. Ah,

701
00:56:37.280 --> 00:56:40.239
don't really care about that last two
chapters. Yeah, I just read

702
00:56:40.280 --> 00:56:43.880
eight hundred pages. I don't really
care to see how it ends, you

703
00:56:44.239 --> 00:56:45.880
hope, and if it doesn't end, you're pretty upset, are you?

704
00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:52.800
Not? Right? It's true in
every form of storytelling. Every tonight the

705
00:56:52.800 --> 00:56:55.559
pay per view, a story that's
been on now for almost a year finally

706
00:56:55.559 --> 00:57:00.559
comes to a conclusion. And I'm
not going to be here tonight because I'm

707
00:57:00.559 --> 00:57:01.719
gonna watch it. Like no,
I'll be here tonight, okay, okay,

708
00:57:01.920 --> 00:57:05.119
but I'm gonna be there, and
I have no idea how they're gonna

709
00:57:05.119 --> 00:57:07.280
write the story, but it better
be good, okay, or I'll write

710
00:57:07.320 --> 00:57:10.400
them a long worded letter telling them
how they should have written us into the

711
00:57:10.400 --> 00:57:15.760
story. So that that's how storytelling
works. And in the Bible it uses

712
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:22.519
that same idea. Earthly are spiritual
power, earthly power satan. We have

713
00:57:22.599 --> 00:57:25.360
nations, and now, all of
a sudden, who steps in the king.

714
00:57:27.639 --> 00:57:29.920
He starts as a child, but
he's coming with a rod of iron,

715
00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:36.599
and he's gonna do what He's gonna
make all the nations his kingdom.

716
00:57:36.840 --> 00:57:42.159
Some people think that's good news.
Some people don't like that news. But

717
00:57:42.239 --> 00:57:45.519
guess what, it doesn't matter if
you like it, doesn't matter if you

718
00:57:45.559 --> 00:57:50.480
hate it. The issue is is
it true? And let me tell you

719
00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:55.360
this, and I'm gonna use this
in the most graphic way possible. You

720
00:57:55.400 --> 00:58:01.760
have two options. You're either gonna
be the bird food. Are you gonna

721
00:58:01.760 --> 00:58:08.960
get to enter into the millennial kingdom? Don't know about you. The bird

722
00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:15.559
food option is not quite one of
my on my priority list. That's the

723
00:58:15.559 --> 00:58:20.239
reality of it. It's ugly,
it's not pretty, but that's the reality

724
00:58:20.320 --> 00:58:25.320
every every kid, teenager, parent, adult needs to consider if this is

725
00:58:25.360 --> 00:58:30.639
true. That's where it's coming down
to, because if you're in opposition to

726
00:58:30.719 --> 00:58:34.800
his kingdom, he's not when he
shows back up, he's not giving you

727
00:58:34.840 --> 00:58:37.639
an option at that point. When
he shows back up, it's not like,

728
00:58:37.679 --> 00:58:39.920
oh, would you like to come
into my king No, he kills

729
00:58:39.960 --> 00:58:49.360
you. That's that's a disturbing time. Like when whenever the heaven's open and

730
00:58:49.400 --> 00:58:52.880
he comes out, it's over.
He's not coming with he's not coming to

731
00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:59.800
get back on a cross. He's
coming with a rod and death. That's

732
00:58:59.800 --> 00:59:04.519
a frightening like we're getting to a
frightening conclusion of the book. But on

733
00:59:04.639 --> 00:59:07.679
some ways it's good news because all
the evil and out of control stuff that

734
00:59:07.679 --> 00:59:12.039
we see in our world is all
going to be brought under control, all

735
00:59:12.079 --> 00:59:14.400
right, So we'll stop there,
lordgo, We come before you this morning,

736
00:59:14.760 --> 00:59:21.239
a powerful section of scripture, some
powerful thoughts, some powerful ideas.

737
00:59:21.599 --> 00:59:25.000
I doubt that we will probably appreciate
this as much, maybe as we should.

738
00:59:25.559 --> 00:59:30.000
But I hope that we will at
least leave here discussing these concepts,

739
00:59:30.519 --> 00:59:34.280
because we just barely touched the surface, and I think that there's a lot

740
00:59:34.280 --> 00:59:37.400
here to explore and to consider.
Changes how we view our world, It

741
00:59:37.480 --> 00:59:40.039
changes how we view a lot of
things. But I think it's important for

742
00:59:40.119 --> 00:59:43.320
us to consider. And we asked
this in Jesus name, and Gus people

743
00:59:43.360 --> 00:59:52.639
said, mah, you've been listening
to another episode of Theology Central Radio where

744
00:59:52.719 --> 00:59:59.559
I pull from our vast archives.
That was from twenty seventeen. I didn't

745
00:59:59.559 --> 01:00:01.960
know the when we started because I
didn't have it written down, but the

746
01:00:02.039 --> 01:00:07.719
year twenty seventeen, the eighth day
of some month in twenty seventeen. We

747
01:00:07.719 --> 01:00:12.519
were working, obviously in the Book
of Revelation, and that was a part

748
01:00:12.519 --> 01:00:17.960
of Revelation chapter twelve. I think
there's some important concepts there, some important

749
01:00:19.000 --> 01:00:24.199
ideas. Hopefully you'll take what we
were discussing in twenty seventeen and give it

750
01:00:24.320 --> 01:00:30.000
serious thought in this well June of
twenty twenty four. That's one of the

751
01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:37.639
goals here for these episodes of Theology
Central Radio. All of these old files

752
01:00:37.760 --> 01:00:42.119
audio files, how can we get
use of them in the present. And

753
01:00:42.199 --> 01:00:45.800
again I say all the time,
one of the reasons we're doing the Sermons

754
01:00:45.880 --> 01:00:49.800
two point oh app challenge is the
same thing I'm telling you to choose random

755
01:00:49.840 --> 01:00:54.360
sermons on the Sermon's two point oh
app. Hopefully you're stumbling upon older messages

756
01:00:54.760 --> 01:00:59.760
so that many of those other broadcasters, their older messages are being heard as

757
01:00:59.760 --> 01:01:02.599
you're work, you know, doing
the Sermon's two point zero app challenge.

758
01:01:02.960 --> 01:01:07.639
But because so many times, especially
on the podcasting apps, the old stuff

759
01:01:07.679 --> 01:01:10.159
is almost never listened to. It's
just like, okay, what are you

760
01:01:10.199 --> 01:01:13.199
going to do next? What are
you going to do next? What are

761
01:01:13.199 --> 01:01:15.760
you going to do next? What
are you going to do next? And

762
01:01:15.840 --> 01:01:19.440
the old stuff just becomes forgotten.
So it's trying to get make it's trying

763
01:01:19.440 --> 01:01:23.000
to be a good steward of those
old audio files. And I've got a

764
01:01:23.119 --> 01:01:29.920
lot of them, So hopefully you
found that somewhat interesting somewhat beneficial. I

765
01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:37.719
hate I hate hate hearing myself.
I hate it so much. So yeah,

766
01:01:37.719 --> 01:01:39.480
because I'll be like, well,
I should have said this, I

767
01:01:39.480 --> 01:01:43.280
should have done this, I should
have done this. But hopefully that was

768
01:01:43.320 --> 01:01:45.840
beneficial. I wish I had.
If I come across some of the other

769
01:01:45.880 --> 01:01:51.039
files from Revelation chapter twelve, I'll
try it. We'll use them for a

770
01:01:51.079 --> 01:01:55.119
future episode of Theology Central Radio.
But hopefully that was beneficial. You can

771
01:01:55.159 --> 01:02:00.400
contact me in twenty twenty four.
Well, just like you could have detected

772
01:02:00.440 --> 01:02:07.119
me since really the year two thousand
at newsif at yahoo dot com. NEWSI

773
01:02:07.159 --> 01:02:10.079
f at Yahoo dot com. That's
news I f at Yahoo dot com.

774
01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:14.840
And well, hopefully that was beneficial. So thank you for tuning in to

775
01:02:14.840 --> 01:02:22.400
another episode of Theology Central Radio.
Have a great day. God bless