Repentance and Confusion Pt 2

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Looking at our world from a theological
perspective. This is the Theology Central podcast,

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making Theology Central. I think I
should change the name of this podcast

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from Theology Central to where how would
I call it? What would I call

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this? Where part one that shouldn't
be a part one? Let me see

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that where one episode becomes multiple episodes? Now I don't know, I don't

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know. I need to change the
name somehow to capture the idea that a

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lot of times when I start a
broadcast and I don't even have the intention

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of making a part when I was
going to call this, I need to

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call this podcast where part one becomes
part two? But that's kind of I

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wasn't really thinking, because well,
obviously, if you have a part one,

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you have to have a part two, right, because that's why you

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called it part one. So that
really wouldn't capture the idea. It's really

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where an episode turns in to multiple
parts, because it happens to me all

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the time. I turn on this
microphone like Okay, I'm gonna do this,

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but I have no intention of it
turning into a part two, or

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a part three, or a part
four, or even into a mini series.

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But over and over and over that
happens to me, and that's kind

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of where we are today. So
we're going to do a part two that

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was never even meant to be a
part one, and we're going to do

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that in just a second. But
I guess what I need to do is

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give you a proper introduction. Good
afternoon, everyone. It is Wednesday,

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July the twenty fourth, twenty twenty
four. It is currently four ten pm

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Central Time, and I am coming
to you live from the Theology Central Studio

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located right here in Abilene, Texas. Yes, in our last live broadcast,

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I simply wanted to review some audio
about a sermon, a review audio

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from a sermon that was about the
subject of repentance. And the reason I

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wanted to do that is one the
title caught my attention because the title of

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the sermon is the Repent of Your
Sins confusion. So that caught my attention.

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Not only that it was a sermon
I found on the sermon's two point

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oh app which obviously helps with our
Sermons two point oh app sermon challenge that

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we're doing for twenty twenty four.
So I'm like, okay, I definitely

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the title of this got my attention. It's on the sermon's two point oh

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app So that helps with the challenge
that we're doing. And I'm very much

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have been talking about forever that after
two thousand years of church history, nobody

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can yet agree on anything about repentance. We can't agree on the definition of

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the word. We can't agree on
how it works, doesn't work? Is

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it something God does, something we
do? Is it required for salvation?

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Is it not required for salvation?
What is it? How much of it?

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And just all of these never ending
arguments. So I'm like, you

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know what, this is the perfect
thing to do. So I'm like,

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okay, let's do a quick review. It'll be interesting. We don't have

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to review the whole sermon. And
then the next thing. You know,

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well, when I started the review, it got far more interesting than I

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was anticipating. And well, now
here we are doing a part two that

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was never meant to be a part
one. But hopefully we will finish this.

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We'll see how close we can get. Right. These reviews always go

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longer than I intend. At some
point you think I would catch on,

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but I never do. All right, but are you ready? Let me

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try to give you some basic information
and then we will get started. First

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and foremost, I want you to
go find the original sermon, because I

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want you to not only listen to
the original sermon without my commentary, analysis

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and critique and agreement or disagreement,
but I want you to listen to it,

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and I want you to listen to
the sermon that preceded it. So

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the weird thing is all right.
So first, the name of the church.

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The church is Verity Baptist Church,
Verity Baptist Church, located in Sacramento,

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California. Please follow them on the
sermon's two point oh app follow them

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so that all of their new content
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when I say follow one doesn't mean
I always agree, doesn't mean I always

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disagree. But hey, we've already
found in just the first review. The

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first part of this review is that
this sermon has been very interesting, very

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intriguing, and I think adds a
perspective that is missing from many churches.

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So I think a lot of people
should should follow it. The name of

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the series is Rooted and Grounded.
Rooted and Grounded. There are two sermons.

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Now they need to they need to
add some artwork. And I don't

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understand their Part one Part two concept
here. But remember the first sermon in

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this series is Faith Versus Works,
which I have not listened to yet,

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but we all definitely need to go
listen to it. The second one is

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the Repent of Your Sins Confusion,
which is what we're currently reviewing. They

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label Faith Versus Works Part one and
then the Repent of Your Sins Confusion Part

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two, but really they don't need
to know. That's really confusing. They

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should just call it Faith Versus Works
the Repent of your Sense Confusion. All

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in the series Rooted and Grounded,
adds some Rooted and Grounded, add some

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artwork, and then they will be
good to go. But you can follow

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the series directly if you don't want
to follow the church, and we'll see

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how many other messages they add to
this series. But it has been very

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interesting and very intriguing. Now we
in our last review and part one of

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this we kind of broke it down
that there's basically two camps when it comes

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to the doctrine of repentance. Basically
two camps right now. I know there's

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lots of variations. Some may say
there's a third camp. I understand that,

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but I'm just saying basically, you
can put most people, this will

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cover most into basically two camps when
it comes to the subject of repentance.

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The first camp is, repentance is
not necessary for salvation, and repentance is

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something that we do. It's something
we do, and it's not necessary for

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salvation, all right. The other
camp is, repentance is absolutely necessary for

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salvation. However, it's not something
we do. God is the one who

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grants repentance. Typically in that second
camp, which is typically more reformed and

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in the lordship world, hey,
repentance is not something we do. It's

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a work of God. It's necessary
for salvation. And this camp would almost

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inevitably say repentance is not just a
change of mind, it's an actual change

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in action. It's a turning from
sin. It's stopping to stop sinning.

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You have to do this, and
if you don't do this, you prove

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your repentance is not genuine. Therefore
you're not saved. All right. Now,

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there's lots of problems with this view, as we've already articulated. Wait

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a minute, if God is the
one granting the repentance, then that repentance

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should be well, it's God gave
it to you. It should be perfect,

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it should be permanent, it should
be absolute, it should be complete

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when you turn from your sin,
turn from all sin, because it's the

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repentance God gave you. So therefore
Christians should never sin again. But they're

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like, no, God grant you
repentance, but you have to repent every

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single day. So then every single
day God grants me repentance. Well,

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then what how many times does God
have to grant you repentance before you stop

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sinning completely? It becomes really problematic. It's all over the place and so

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but at the same time, they
say, you have to repent in order

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to be saved. But yet it's
not a work because it's a work God

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does. It's not a work you
do, so therefore it's not But if

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you don't, if you don't turn
from your sin, then you prove your

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repentance is not genuine. Therefore you're
not saved. However, so but then

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they say, you don't have to
turn from your sin before you're saved.

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You have to be willing to turn
from your sin. But if you don't

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turn from your sin enough after you're
saved, then you prove you were never

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saved. It becomes very circular,
reasoning, contradictory and confusing. The other

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camp Again, Basically, you can
repent on your own. It's not a

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work of God right. You can
do it according to your own free will,

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but it's not required for salvation.
The only thing required for salvation is

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to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved. Now,

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within that camp, there's a lot
of variation there, and some of

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it can get confusing. I put
forth kind of a third option that repentance

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is necessary for salvation, but repentance
is that deals with salvation. As far

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salvation is concerned, Repentance is simply
a change of mind where we change our

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mind about God, about salvation,
about Heaven, about Hell, about sin,

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about the Cross, about all.
We change our mind and in a

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sense we turn from our sin,
not in practice, but we turn from

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our sin to go to Christ,
to say, save me from my sin.

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I believe you died for my sin, you paid for my sin,

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and I'm trusting in your imputed righteousness. Repentance is simply a change of mind,

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and God has to grant that change
of mind. It is not a

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change in action in regards to sin. Salvation. That is the argument I

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have put forth, so it would
be necessary for salvation, but it's a

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change of mind. Obviously, you
have to have a change of mind for

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salvation because you've turning from unbelieved to
belief. You're turning away from your sin

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to Christ for salvation. We're not
saying turning away from sin in practice,

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because we know we're all going to
continue to sin. So I got to

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put forth a third option. You
can go back and listen to all A

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Part one. I don't want to
spend more time in review than that.

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So what we're going to do is
we're going to go back to this sermon

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the Repentance of your Sin confusion from
a Verity Baptist Church, And well,

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I kind of backed it up a
little bit. He's about to get into

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the definition of repentance. He's put
forth some things to try to clear what

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he thinks are some things that people
are confused about in regards to repentance.

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I think I've backed it up enough
where he's going to repeat those. But

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the main thing we want to do
in this episode is this discussion on how

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should we define repentance. Let's see
where this goes and I'll say again,

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I see the word preach, I
see the word should, I see the

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word men, I see the word
repent. But where does it say of

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your sins? What does it say
repent of your sins to be saved.

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I can show you a verse it
says, believe on the Lord Jesus Christ,

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and thou shall be saved. Can
you show me a verse that says

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repent of your sins and you'll be
saved. You can't because it's not in

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the Bible. Now, he made
a huge point out of this in the

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first part that we reviewed that the
Bible nowhere specifically says repent of your sins.

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It says repent, but it doesn't
say repent of your sins. Now,

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that's the argument he's made. We've
not obviously looked up every phrase to

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determine that, but he's saying that
exact phrase and that exact order is not

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there. Now he's made a big
deal out of that. Now, some

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may say, well, that's a
ridiculous thing to make a big deal out

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of, because we can at least
prove that concept, And maybe you're right.

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You can determine how important that argument
is or is it. But he's

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definitely repeated it now countless times.
Now the Bible uses the word repent repentance,

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repenting, repentant, repentance is a
comment that found the scripture. Sometimes

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I'll preach a sermon like this,
and then people will accuse us, say,

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oh, that past or that preach
or that church. They don't believe

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in repentance. We believe in repentance. We just don't believe in adding works

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to salvation like you do. The
Bible talks about repentance, but we must

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be careful not to add what you
read in a commentary somewhere, not to

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add what you read in some theological
books somewhere, not to add what you

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heard on the radio or on the
TV or on the internet, and just

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add something to the Bible that's not
there. Because the Bible never uses this

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phrase repent of your sins, never
even uses it. And people try to

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take you to proof tech to say, well, it teaches, and then

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they take you to verses that say
repent. They don't say repent of your

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sins. And we know that repentance
cannot automatically always on its own be referring

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to sin, because the person repented
the most in the Bible is God himself,

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and God is without sin, and
we know that repenting of your sins

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cannot be part of salvation because God
defines someone turning from their evil way as

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works, and we know that works
is not part of salvation. So now

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those two points he made based off
looking at Versus in the Old Testament.

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Basically, his argument is the King
James over and over never says God repented,

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and he's arguing from that, well, then that means repentance is not

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always a turn from sin, because
clearly God would not be repenting and that

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means turning from sin. Now we
looked at the Hebrew word. I don't

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like the fact that the King j
translators translated repentant because I don't think that

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really captures the idea and leads to
confusion. But I understand. Then he

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went to the book of Jonah where
God talks about the men repenting are the

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men turning from their wicked ways?
And God refers to it as their works,

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meaning that when we turn from our
works, that are when we turn

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from our wicked ways, it's a
work we do. So he's like,

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well, that repentance can't be a
part of salvation. Of turning away from

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our wicked ways is something we do, then it would be adding works to

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salvation. So I understood his argument. You could, we could push back

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or you know, I understand how
the the word reform world would be like,

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no, repentance is turning from our
wicked ways, turning from our wicked

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works. But it's not our work. It's a work God does. And

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he would go to Jonah and say, but God right here says no,

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it's their work. So well,
they said, well that was their repentance.

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Is not like the New Testament repentance, because the New Testament repentance is

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the work God does so that you
turn from your sin. Well, the

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only problem in the reform can is
well, okay, if it's a work

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God does, then the repentance should
be perfect, permanent, definitive, definite,

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and therefore we should never sin again
because it's literally repentance God gave me.

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God gave me repentance, and it
means a turning from sin, then

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it should be perfect because God wouldn't
give me an end perfect form of repentance.

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See that leads to all kinds of
difficulties and problems. All right,

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again, I tried to kind of
put forth a third idea. I know,

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I kind of look, whenever you're
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will come into part two and go, well, you didn't explain this,

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and go listen to part one.
There was far greater explanation. But we

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want to move forward to see how
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think the entire argument really comes down
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to do. We talked about the
misconception of repentance. I hope that that's

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helped clear up some of those misconceptions
that repentance is not always referring to and

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that repenting of your sins cannot be
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But now let's talk about the definition
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Bible actually mean when it's using the
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Go back to Jonah chapter three if
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I get to look down at verse
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verse nine we saw the misconception of
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definition of repentance. And when I
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a biblical definition. What does the
Bible actually say? Not what do Bible

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collogists teach, not what do seminaries
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Not what do theologians say, not
what do theological studies say? But what

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does the Bible say? Lookause back
does the Bible is our boss? The

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Bible should be the final authority of
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the question we should always be asked
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Just a reminder, I love when
pastors say that you should be listening

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to theologians. You shouldn't be listening
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at what the Bible says, as
the pastor is preaching and people are listening

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to him. But I have to
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like we should only listen to the
Bible. So the why am I listening

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to any preachers? Right? Don't
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The Bible is the final boss.
But make sure you understand the final

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boss that utuly has a negative connotation
when you think of it and video game

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terminology. All right, but I
digress, All right, But the boss.

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The final authority should be the Bible, the Word of God. Let's

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make sure this is. It drives
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everyone makes that claim. Those who
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say the Bible is the final authority. We got our conclusion about repentance from

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the Bible. People who hold to
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say we got our conclusion from the
Bible. The people who believe baptism is

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by immersion only for believers say we
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who baptize babies and at eight days
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the Bible. Everyone says they got
everything from the Bible, So saying we

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got it from the Bible, everyone
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Charismatics make that claim, Baptists make
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that claim. Presbyterians make that claim, Lutherans make that claim. I can

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go on in hundreds thousands of different
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is the final authority and all coming
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because someone has a different conclusion doesn't
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Bible. The issue is, obviously, after two thousand years of church history,

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nobody can agree on how to interpret
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issue. So it's interesting that he's
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Jonah chapter three. I just find
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the Hebrew word here? Because I'm
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he's going to quote Is he gonna
quote nine? I wonder is he gonna

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quote verse ten? All right,
let's see where he goes, because this

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is interesting. I figured he would
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place the word repent is used,
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Oh, I think, is how
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Yeah, And I'm not looking at
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okay, this is what the Greek
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mind. We did that in the
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he would go immediately to the New
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to start in Jonah, which is
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how he's going to build his definition
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the Bible's definition of repentance. Because
we don't listen to pastors, we don't

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listen to theolo, we don't listen
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All right, let's see how what
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definition. Let's see we can find
it. So what does the Bible say

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about repentance? How does the Bible
define repentance? We talked about the misconception

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of repentance. Let's talk about the
definition of repentance. And there are two

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things that you need to understand when
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The first is this, According to
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to turn. Well, we talked
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it here in Jonah chapter three.
Look in verse nine. Who can tell

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if God will notes this phrase turn
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this is weird because he's defining repent
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God will turn and relent and turn
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remember we looked up that Hebrew word, the Hebrew word, Let's go back

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to it. All right, this
is gonna now. Now I'm gonna get

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a little Okay, I'm sorry.
I didn't mean to hit the microphone.

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Now I'm gonna get a little frustrated
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I think, I think sometimes I
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down to an issue in hermoneutics.
I guess if you're KJV only, then

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you don't look to the Greek or
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you translated a word repent, then
he's just going to say, well,

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then this is the definition of repentance
to turn away, all right, Well,

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but the Hebrew word here, Okay, hang on Hebrew word here?

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If I can go to Jonah chapter
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Hebrew word because the Hebrew word that
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is this Hebrew word? We looked
at it. I don't know how

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many times in the last episode Strong's
age fifty one sixty two. Nothm not

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camm now, not him. Just
make sure to understand it's used one hundred

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and eight times. The strongest definition
is not to turn and anyway. It's

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to sigh, it's to breathe strongly. It's to be sorry, uh,

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to pity, to console to rue, to to avenge, to comfort,

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to ease. That that I mean, there's nothing here about to turn.

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In fact, the outline of Biblical
uses to be sorry, to console oneself,

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repent, regret, comfort, be
comforted, to be sorry, be

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moved, to pity, to have
compassion, to be sorry, ruse,

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suffer grief, repent, to comfort
oneself, be comforted, to comfort oneself,

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ease oneself, to comfort, to
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be sorry, to have compassion.
Like there's nothing here. I don't think

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the word turn shows up anywhere.
He's like it means to turn away.

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No, the Hebrew word does not
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that in any way, shape or
form. It does not. It means

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to be sorry, but mostly to
comfort, to comfort, to comfort,

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to be comforted, to comfort oneself, to have compassion. That does not

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say he's like it means to turn
No, it doesn't. Okay. The

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Hebrew word there doesn't even come close
to meaning that he relented. That's how

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it's translated in other translations. The
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I think it's I think it's detrimental. I think it's detrimental to using that

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word. The Bible serves at its
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notice this in the Bible if you
look for it, that God will often

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put two words that are synonyms next
to each other in order to identify for

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us what those words mean, or
what one of those words means, or

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what the definition is. And notice
here the Bible says, who can tell

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if God will turn and repent?
Why does it say that? Because the

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word repent means to turn? Who
can tell? If God will turn and

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repent and look at it again,
turn away from his fears anger that we

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perish? Not so, the Bible
uses the word turn synonymously with the word

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repent. We saw it here in
Jonah chapter three. Let me the word

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repent is a translation the Hebrew word
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Doesn't have anything to do with turn. Nothing. It's not being used.

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It's synonymous. In fact, the
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back to the actual Hebrew turn is
the Hebrew word. Where is it?

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If I can find it? Oh, Oh, it's this one Strong's age

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seventy shoove shoove shoove actually means to
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not mean in any way, shape
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means turn is not the word repent. It's the word turn. The King

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James translators translate turn and relent.
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be synonymous with repent or to turn. To turn means to turn. Relent

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doesn't mean to turn. Relent has
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repent there doesn't have anything to do
with turn. This is this is gonna

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get maddening, like like if we
can't even figure out what well the words

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are synonymous, according to what well
you just made them synonymous. They come

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from two different Hebrew words that are
not synonymous. Shove is not the same

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as not knock him or however you
say the other Hebrew word. I can,

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I can look it up. So
the word turn is this Hebrew word

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Strong's age seventy shoove shoove shove,
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means turn, and it literally is
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The next word which the King James
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on, let me go back here
to it is this Hebrew word. Where

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is it this Hebrew word knock him
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not him. I keep want to
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saying it. But not completely different
to different Hebrew words, two completely different

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meanings. They are not synonymous.
You can't just go to a Texas say

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these words are synonymous. They're completely
different Hebrew words, well, completely different

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meanings. They're not synonymous. They
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but one is referring to the turn. The other one seems to refer

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to almost the emotion. To show
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chapter fourteen, Ezego chapter fourteen.
You're there in Jonah. If you go

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backwards, you go past the book
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the book of Ezekiel Jonah Obadiah Amos
Joel Joseah Daniel ezek If you're going backwards

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e is Ego chapter fourteen. E
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verse number six is Ego Chapter fourteen, and verse therefore say unto the house

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of Israel. Thus eith the Lord
God repent. Look at it, and

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turn yourselves from your idols, and
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Do you think of the coincidence that
when God used the word repent,

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he also used the word turn Jonah
three nine. Who can tell of God?

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Okay, now, let's do a
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Therefore, say to the house of
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repent, turn away from your idols. All right, So let's go

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to the word repent here the word
repent. Oh no, look now in

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this way, and Ezekiel, it's
interesting, the word repent here is actually

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strong's h seventy shoove, shoove.
It's actually shove, which actually means to

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turn. So here in Ezekiel,
it clearly is now being it. Now

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now it says repent and turn.
Now, let me go back to the

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Hebrew here, or back to the
English. Now go to the intilinear all

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right, so repent and turn.
It's so there, it's the same Greek

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word or the same Hebrew word.
I can't I apologize. I'm getting frustrated

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trying to follow the logic here.
So hey, you cannot compare this to

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Jonah. Jonah uses two different Hebrew
words that are not synonymous. Who does

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not mean the same thing here,
It's the exact same Hebrew word repent repent

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basically, or shoove, shoove away
from your idols, shoove, shoove away

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from your idols, repent, shoove, shove away from your idols. All

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right, it's the same, it
is. These are not only synonymous,

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are identical? Okay? Either it's
the same Hebrew word. That's not it.

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You can't how you can't compare this
to Jonah. It's completely different Hebrew

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words completely, it's not the same. And why are they different? Because

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in Jonah you're referencing God. God
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In fact, you've got to be
very careful. God's not turning away.

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God's not changing his mind. That's
why the word that's translated repent when referring

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to God is a completely different Hebrew
term, because you've got to be very

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careful or you end up destroying God's
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his eternal decree. So it's a
completely different Hebrew word. Shoove is

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literally the turning away. Now that
but that's being used here to refer to

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Israel, not to God. God
will turn and repent and turn away his

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fears anger, not he's he Gore
fourteen six. Therefore say unto the House

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of Israel. Thus say the Lord
God, repent and turn yourselves from your

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idols, and turn away your faces
from all your abominations. The Bible is

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using these terms together because this is
what the word mean. What does the

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word repent mean? It means to
turn. Go to Ezico chapter eighteen.

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You're there an EXeCO fourteen. Just
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looking verse number thirty is Zco chapter
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therefore, I will judge you,
o house of Israel. Everyone according

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to his ways, saith the Lord
God. Notice it. Repent and turn,

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repent and turn your okay, repent
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I bet you it's the same Hebrew
word. Shoot. I could be wrong.

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Let me go to Ezekiuel. Go
to Ezekiel. If I can find

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Ezekiel. Where is it there?
It is Ezekiel eighteen. I think he

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said thirty Seequel eighteen thirty. All
right, here we go. Let's see

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here the word repent. Yep,
same same Hebrew terms. It's you already

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know it. It's the same Hebrew
term, all right, which is Strong's

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Age seventy seven five, shoove shoove
shoove. So the ones in Ezekiel that

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are not referencing God turning, but
the people, it's a reference to the

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Hebrew word shoove shoove shoove, all
right, telling Israel to turn from God

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is coming to Israel, telling them
to do something, which is very much

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If we understand this, God over
and over and over gave Israel law after

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law after law after law after law. Do this, don't do this,

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turn from this, turn from that, turn from this. And they failed

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over and over and over and over
and over because no one can keep God's

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law. It's a it's a law. They could not do it, all

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right. So, but I don't
know why any him connecting this to the

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concept of the word the words that
are translated, the times it's translated that

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God repented, that is that is
not don't connect that when the translator is

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translated the word repent for God's action, It's a different Hebrew word. It's

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completely different. Hebrew term. Now, maybe at some point they're the same,

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but so far he's not given any
indication where the same Hebrew word is

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used when it refers to God,
quote unquote repenting. Whenever it speaks of

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God repenting, it's a completely different
Hebrew term for cells from all your transgressions.

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So iniquity shall not be your ruin. Here the Bible again is using

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these phrases together, repent and turn, repent and turn, turn and repent.

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Why because the word repent means to
turn. By the way, I

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don't want to get ahead of myself. Because and it is true that that

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Hebrew word shove means to turn,
all right, it means to turn.

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Even if you look at the strongest
definition, well, the strong the strongest

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definition is is long. But it
means to turn back, hence away literally

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or figuratively, return to the starting
point, to retreat, to do,

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to break, build, circumcise,
dig, to do anything, do evil,

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feed, lay down, lie down, lodge, make rejoice. I

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mean it would take me fifteen It
would feel like it would take fifteen minutes

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to read everything there. You can
look it up for yourself. But shove

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definitely has the idea to turn there
we are in agreement. There he can

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continues to connect this to the Hebrew
word that sometimes in the King James is

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translated repent and referencing to God.
But that's a different Hebrew term, not

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the same. They are not synonymous. I don't know why I have it's

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bizarre that in two thousand, see, this is what drives me crazy sometimes

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about Hermoneutics and about churches, right
because he's like, hey, don't listen

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to pastors, don't listen to the
well, that's why you don't listen to

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00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:23.519
pastors at theologians, because right now
he's giving us a complete misrepresentation of how

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the Hebrew text is actually constructed.
And he's saying words are synonymous when they're

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completely different words that do not mean
the same thing, completely different meanings.

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And he's conflating the understanding of the
word show to the other Hebrew word that

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ri is translated repent and reference to
God. It's not the same. I

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don't know why he's not under a
catching on to that. We'll deal with

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this later on in the sermon,
But he's ecual. Eighteen thirty doesn't use

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the phrase repent of your sins,
but the concept is there. He says,

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repent and turn yours from all your
transgressions. But please understand this,

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This is not talking about salvation.
This is talking about the judgment of God

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coming upon a nation, and he's
telling a nation to repent and turn yourselves

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from all your transgressions so God doesn't
destroy. To understand that nations cannot be

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judged in the next world, so
they must be judged in this world.

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I always think it's funny when people
want they want to debate with you the

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doctrine of salvation, when you've got
clear books of the Bible, like I

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don't know the Book of John,
who the Bible actually tells us. The

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Book of John actually tells us that
the purpose of the Book of John was

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to teach us how to be saved. And it's the book that brings up

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the concept and the word believe more
than any other book. But then people

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want to take you to Ezekiel to
show you how you got to repent of

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your sister to be safe. Listen
to me, Ezekiel's not where you want

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to be going for your gospel presentation. Ezekiel is an Old Testament book that's

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very difficult to understand, and it's
Ezekiel dealing with the judgment of God coming

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upon nations, and he's telling the
House of Israel repent and turn yourselves from

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all your transgressions. But I want
you to notice now, I'm in complete

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agreement with him there that like Ezekiel
is specifically referencing Israel, and I completely

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agree. I am in complete agreement. My only frustration so far, I'm

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in agreement with almost everything he said. I'm just very baffled and confused with

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him conflating the meaning of these words
and calling them synonymous when it's different Hebrew

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words. He's not even looking up
the Hebrew words in any way, shape

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or form. He's just saying repent
means turn because it says repent and turn.

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Well, okay, look up the
two Hebrew terms. Just don't conflate

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that with the Joshua passage that is
referring to God quote unquote repenting, because

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that is a different Hebrew term,
that is not the same Hebrew word.

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Right then that Hebrew word means something
completely different. So if you would have

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just went to Ezekiel left Joshua or
Jonah. If I said Joshua, I

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apologize Jonah out of it, then
Okay, then he could be making an

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argument. Hey, in ezekiel I
repent here means to turn because it comes

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from the Hebrew word shove, which
means to. I mean, it can

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mean a lot of things, but
it's primarily talks about to turn, to

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turn, to turn, to turn
to turn to turn. Now turning what

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what references? Now we can get
into some important discussions here. Well,

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let's see where he takes this,
all right, Hopefully he'll stop conflating it

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with the Jonah passage and then we
can move forward. Other than that,

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I don't and I think that's just
the result of King James only ism.

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If you're King James only, you
don't look at the Hebrew, you don't

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look at the Greek. You just
look at the English translation. But I

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think it in many cases that that
can be really miss put it this way.

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If you're only gonna look at the
English translation, then just say,

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I say, based on the English
that these words are synonymous, and I'm

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not going to look up the Hebrew
that these words were translated from, because

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we believe the King James is the
final authority and not the Hebrew that it

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came from. Like I mean,
basically, you'd have to make some argument

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like that. But I think in
this case you see the danger in doing

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that. That the word means to
turn. According to the Bible, the

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word repent means to turn. Look, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna lie

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to you. I'm not gonna sit
here and tell you well you need my

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theological experience. And look, I'm
just gonna show you what the Bible says.

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And when we want to know what
a word means, we just look

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it up in the Bible and we
let the Bible tell us what it means.

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We let the Bible define itself.
I think it's clear. We can

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look at more passages. I won't
take the time to do that, but

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I think it's clear you've made it
clear that the word shoove used and this

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context means to turn. Let's not
forget the word is used one thousand and

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sixty six times. Sometimes it's sometimes
listen the word shove. Sometimes it's translated

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restore, Sometimes it's translated bring.
Sometimes it's translated render, Sometimes it's translated

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00:39:25.480 --> 00:39:32.440
answer. Sometimes it's translated recompense.
Sometimes it's translated recover. Sometimes it's translated

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deliver. Sometimes it's translated withdraw.
So shove used in this context means to

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turn. Yes, you've proven that
shove in ezekiel means to turn. I

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don't know if you've proved what repentance
means. You've proven that the Hebrew word

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shove when translated repent in this context
and ezekiel means to turn. But the

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Hebrew word can be used a one
hundred, well a lot of different ways,

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and it's used over a thousand times, So you can't just say it

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means to turn. No. Yeah, I don't understand this form of word

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study. I don't know what this
is. Hey, I'm gonna go the

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word the word is here, but
that word comes from a Hebrew term.

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All right, I'm getting really confused. Okay, all right, let's see

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where this goes though. All right, let's see where this goes here.

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The word repent means to turn.
Who can tell if God will turn and

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repent and turn away his and turn
away from his ear's anger that we perish

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00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:47.679
on? See, he went right
back to Jonah, who knows if God

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will turn and repent? Will God
turn shoove and repent? That does not

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that means to relent. It means, well, you could you could be

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translated a lot of different ways.
That's a completely different Hebrew word. He's

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I don't know why he can continue
to go to Jonah and conflate it again.

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Shove means to turn. Remember that
if we go back to Jonah,

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oh man, this is this is
really going to start bothering me. We

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go back to Jonah, chapter three, verse nine, Who can tell if

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God will turn and repent turn is
shove? Remember repent is Remember does everyone

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know it? Come on? At
this point, y'all should be able to

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say it better than I can.
Right, Repent is not sham nothm And

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remember not ham has nothing to do
with turning. It's to be sorry,

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it's to console, it's regret,
comfort comforted, to be sorry, be

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moved, to pity, have compassion, to be sorry, to comfort oneself,

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be comforted, to comfort oneself is
oneself to comfort, to console,

534
00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:59.880
be comforted, be consoled, to
be sorry, to have compassion. Right,

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00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:02.599
it's used. It's used one hundred
and eight times, fifty seven times.

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It's translated comfort forty one times,
repent, nineteen times, comforter,

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and one time ease. So most
of the usage has something to do with

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comfort. Nothing and not one time? Does it mean urn? Not one

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00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:21.760
time? So the King James translators
translate a word repent that does not mean

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turn, and you say repentance means
turn because the word turn comes before the

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word repent and Jonah three nine,
but the word turn is a completely different

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Hebrew word that actually means turn.
I don't look the whole the whole thing

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makes it's so convoluted. Oh this
this, this was going so good,

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00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:47.920
This was going so good. I
am baffled by how he ended up here.

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00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:54.079
I don't even understand this. And
he can mock commentaries and theologians and

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00:42:54.559 --> 00:42:58.880
we don't need any of them.
Okay, well maybe you don't need theologians,

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00:42:58.880 --> 00:43:01.000
maybe you don't need commentary. But
do you think maybe you need to

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know the into the Hebrew? Maybe? Do you think maybe if you're gonna

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start looking at the definition of words
and do some type of many words study,

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you would go through the basic steps
used in a word study. I

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mean, I could teach everyone the
word study Bible study method, if everyone

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00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:22.480
needs me to do that. You
gotta know the definition of the words have

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meanings, but you got to know
where. And the translators take Hebrew words

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and translated them into English. The
meaning of those Hebrew words should be the

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very key to understanding what was understood
by the what is supposed to be understood

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by the English words. When the
King James translators translated that God would repent

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and Jonah three and nine speaking of
God repenting, they did not use the

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Hebrew word show. They used a
completely different word that has nothing to do

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with turning or changing your mind,
has nothing to do with that. It's

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more about an emotion. Therefore,
say into the House of Israel, thus

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state the Lord God repent, and
turn yourselves from your idols, and turn

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away your faces from all your abominations. Therefore I would judge you, o

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House of Israel, everyone according to
his way, state the Lord God repent

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and turn yourselves from all your transgressions, so iniquity shall not be your ruin.

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Let me just give you one more, because you say you might say,

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well, all those are Old Testament
passages. Okay, Well, let's

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just look at one in the New
Testament. Go to Luke chapter seventeen.

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If you would Luke chapter seventeen.
If you start at the beginning of the

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New Testament, Matthew, you have
Matthew Mark Luke Luke chapter seventeen. Luke

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Chapter seventeen and verse number four.
Luke seventeen and verse four knows what the

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Bible says. And again this verse
I'm showing you is not about salvation.

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It's actually about a brother sitting against
another brother and how you ought to forgive

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him Luke seventeen four. And if
he trespass against these seven times in a

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day, and seven times in a
day, look at the words turn again

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to thee saying I repent, thou
shalt forgive him. And I'm not preaching

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on the subject of forgiveness. I
just want you to notice here that the

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Bible is using the word turn.
It's saying if he turns again to THEE

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and says saying I repent, why
would he say I repent when he turned,

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because that's what the word means.
The word repent means to turn.

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Okay, let's see if this holds
up. All right, So I'm back

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to the antilinear. All right.
Let's see here, all right, So

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I'm looking at the antillinear, all
right? Turn again? Is this Greek

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word? All right? If I
said, Hebrew, I apologize Greek word

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when you're doing this in real time, like you're really trying to react to

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this in real time just so that
everyone understand. And I know this is

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mainly for my own pride, in
my own ego, so because I just

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don't want to look completely foolish when
you're trying to listen to this and respond

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in real time. Because remember when
I do reviews, I don't listen first.

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So I'm trying to do all the
work in real time and trying to

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00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:16.719
keep it all straight. It's not
like I can sit here and write down

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the Hebrew like if I did this
in advance, I'd be like, well,

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00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:22.719
everyone, here's the Hebrew word.
Here's I'm looking up the Hebrew word

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and Greek words and real time and
trying to remember them as I'm also listening

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to him, trying to process where
I'm going. So sometimes it can get

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a little I hope I'm making it
very clear because I'm just I'm trying to

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make clear what I feel he's completely
making all convoluted, and he's he's drawing

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00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:45.480
conclusions that just are not are crazy
in this, and he's saying words are

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synonymous when they're completely different words,
All kinds of craziness here. But so

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in Luke, we're in the Greek
intilinear, the Greek intilinear, and so

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he wants to somehow it sounds like
flight the ideas again see Luke seventeen,

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which verse was at verse four.
And if he trespasses against these seven times

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in a day, and seven times
in a day, turn again to thee

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saying I repent. He's saying the
turn again, and repent is basically repent

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means turn away or turn again.
Well, let's see if that holds true.

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The word turn come going to the
anti linear. So turn again is

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00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:32.639
from this Greek word, this Greek
word Strong's g nineteen ninety four epis threefol

607
00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:38.800
epis threefol epistretfo epistrepho. He says
it a little different than mine. I'm

608
00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:43.679
from Texas a right epistretfho. Now
this one is used thirty nine times.

609
00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:46.960
It means turn there, we go, be converted, return, turn about,

610
00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:51.119
turn again. All right. It
means to revert, literally figured it

611
00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:54.679
toive morley, come go again,
convert, turn about again, turn on

612
00:47:54.719 --> 00:47:59.960
the outline of biblical usage, to
turn two, to cause, to return,

613
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:02.719
to turn to oneself, to turn
to one's self about to return about

614
00:48:02.960 --> 00:48:07.280
turn, it means the turn.
It means the turn. So when it

615
00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:13.519
says and if he says against you, if he says against you, I

616
00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:15.800
mean let me go read it from
the King James. If he says against

617
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:20.079
you seven times in a day,
and seven times in a day, turns

618
00:48:20.119 --> 00:48:23.360
again to the well, turn again
means turn. Now he says, I

619
00:48:23.559 --> 00:48:30.639
repent. Now what is the word
repent? The word repent, The word

620
00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:43.440
repent here is a completely different word
strong g thirty three forty meta ao meta

621
00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:47.199
ao, metoni ao, metonieo now
metani ao is the one that means change

622
00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:53.760
mind. It doesn't mean turn.
It means change one's mind. So if

623
00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:58.440
we read it this way seventeen four
Luke, seventeen four. And if he

624
00:48:58.519 --> 00:49:00.400
says against you seven times a day, and seven times in a day,

625
00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:07.400
returns to you or turns to you
saying I repent, you shall forgive him.

626
00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:12.400
So we could say seven times in
a day means he just turns back

627
00:49:12.440 --> 00:49:15.239
to you. He comes back to
you. So the person who sinned against

628
00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:19.880
you seven times turns around, comes
back to you. So that has nothing

629
00:49:19.880 --> 00:49:22.880
to do with repenting. He just
turns and comes back to you and says,

630
00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:27.599
hey, I've repented. I've changed
my mind. I've changed my mind

631
00:49:27.639 --> 00:49:32.119
about what happened. I'm acknowledging it
was wrong. You forgive him. He

632
00:49:32.119 --> 00:49:38.039
he's conflating the turning with the repenting. It's completely different Greek words. The

633
00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:42.920
turning means just even in the text, he's just turning back to the person

634
00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:46.199
he's sinned against. Hey, I'm
coming back to you. I'm turning back

635
00:49:46.239 --> 00:49:51.639
to you, and I says physically
walking right back up to you, going

636
00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:57.119
hey, I've repented, I've changed
my mind about my behavior. Because the

637
00:49:57.800 --> 00:50:05.000
methanieo means to change. Once he's
conflating the turning what they're repenting. The

638
00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:07.480
turning just means they turned back,
they came back to you. Listen to

639
00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:10.440
again the way it's written in the
New King James. And if he sends

640
00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:15.400
against you seven times in a day, uh, and seven times in a

641
00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:24.360
day returns to you, that doesn't
have anything to do with repenting. This

642
00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:30.920
is maddening. This is literally maddening. This is why people in the pew

643
00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:34.800
have to know how to do word
studies. You have to know how to

644
00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:38.599
do word studies. You've got to
be able to you can I agree with

645
00:50:38.679 --> 00:50:43.039
him. Don't listen to pastors,
don't listen to him, don't listen to

646
00:50:43.079 --> 00:50:49.199
me. But all we're doing is
like, no, he's he's completely misreading

647
00:50:49.239 --> 00:50:53.239
that verse. They're returning to the
turning is they're just turning back to you.

648
00:50:53.440 --> 00:50:57.199
This is not them repenting. And
then he says, I repent,

649
00:50:58.199 --> 00:51:08.400
I'm changing my mind about my behavior
about whatever. Go to First Kings,

650
00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:13.159
chapter eight if you would, in
the Old Testament, First Kings, chapter

651
00:51:13.199 --> 00:51:15.239
eight in the Old Testament, if
you can find those one and two books

652
00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:20.800
that are all clustered together, First
and Second Samuel, First and Second Kings,

653
00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:24.800
First and Second Chronicles, find First
Kings chapter eight, and look,

654
00:51:24.840 --> 00:51:29.400
this is something that we need to
nail down and be clear about and understand

655
00:51:29.400 --> 00:51:31.280
what the Bible teaches, because the
Bible tells us that we need to earnestly

656
00:51:31.280 --> 00:51:37.960
contend for the faith. You're absolutely
right, this is something we need to

657
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:40.280
nail down and something we need to
be clear about. The only problem is

658
00:51:40.320 --> 00:51:45.880
this is not being clear. You're
taking terms and putting terms together that come

659
00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:50.480
from completely different Hebrew words and different
Greek words. They're not synonymous. They

660
00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:57.440
don't mean the same thing. Man, I'm losing my mind here, okay,

661
00:51:57.599 --> 00:52:00.480
and we need to earnestly contend for
the faith I knowing what words mean

662
00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:05.320
and not making reference to work.
See, this is why in two thousand

663
00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:07.840
years of church history. This is
why, in two thousand years of church

664
00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:13.039
history, here in twenty twenty four, we still can't agree on the definition

665
00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:16.679
of repentance. This is why this
is your watching take place in real time.

666
00:52:19.400 --> 00:52:24.800
This was going so well this I
was so happy about the first hour

667
00:52:24.960 --> 00:52:30.599
of hour plus of review. Now
we're fast approaching the second hour review and

668
00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:35.000
now I'm just getting really frustrated.
So let's see, he's in first Kings

669
00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:37.440
eight. What do you think?
Do you think that this is good?

670
00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:39.639
Is he going to conflate terms again? Is he going to conflate two different

671
00:52:39.679 --> 00:52:44.079
Hebrew words? What do you think? What do you think what he did

672
00:52:44.119 --> 00:52:47.800
in Luke seventeen is crazy? That
turning has nothing to do with repenting.

673
00:52:49.039 --> 00:52:52.679
That's just literally someone turning back coming
back to you to talk, Hey,

674
00:52:52.840 --> 00:52:55.440
I know I've sinned against you,
Like you know, I just send against

675
00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:58.400
you. Now I come right back
to you, going hey, you know,

676
00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:00.239
hey, I've repented. When he
comes right back saying, hey,

677
00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:06.159
that coming back is not turning from
anything other than physically coming back to you.

678
00:53:06.639 --> 00:53:08.199
I don't know how you can conflate
that with the word repent there,

679
00:53:08.239 --> 00:53:15.039
it's not the same, completely different
Greek words. All right, let's see

680
00:53:15.079 --> 00:53:16.920
what happens in First Kings. Now
we're going to be back in the Hebrew

681
00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:27.039
and the attacks on the doctrines of
salvation and the attempts to try to muddy

682
00:53:27.159 --> 00:53:32.360
the waters of salvation are literally sending
people to hell. People need to understand

683
00:53:32.360 --> 00:53:37.760
what does the Bible say? What
does the Bible teach? So we're talking

684
00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:42.760
about the definition of repentance, what
does the word repentance mean. The word

685
00:53:42.880 --> 00:53:46.239
repent means to turn in a very
basic way, it means to turn.

686
00:53:49.079 --> 00:53:52.039
But I want you to notice that
there's another idea that goes along with this

687
00:53:52.079 --> 00:54:00.119
word. I can't believe he's saying
repent in the New Testament the meta ieo

688
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:04.840
means to turn when it literally means
a change of mind. Like that is

689
00:54:04.920 --> 00:54:09.920
driving me crazy. And he and
his way of making metanieo mean to turn

690
00:54:10.599 --> 00:54:17.679
is because he conflated a completely different
Greek word with metanio. That is insane.

691
00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:23.920
That I uh that bothers me so
much. I I honestly don't know

692
00:54:23.960 --> 00:54:29.079
how people in the Pew can ever
hope to know anything. I really don't.

693
00:54:29.159 --> 00:54:31.880
I just I really I I've almost
given up the fact that anybody can

694
00:54:31.920 --> 00:54:36.760
know anything. I really don't.
Two thousand years of church history and we

695
00:54:36.800 --> 00:54:40.039
still can't figure this out. We
can't even come close to figuring this out.

696
00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:45.239
I I. But let's maybe first
Kings, He's about to fix it

697
00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:51.920
all and it's all going to make
sense. And it is this to change

698
00:54:51.920 --> 00:55:00.000
your mind, all right? I
agree? The other the other concept is

699
00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:04.159
to change your mind. You're absolutely
right. You had it handed to you

700
00:55:04.199 --> 00:55:07.400
in Luke seventeen. Meant to niao
means to change your mind. It was

701
00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:12.760
right there. But instead of making
repent change your mind, you made it

702
00:55:12.800 --> 00:55:15.760
to turn, based off another Greek
word that didn't even mean to turn in

703
00:55:15.800 --> 00:55:19.840
a spiritual sense. It just mean
to physically turn and come back to the

704
00:55:19.880 --> 00:55:27.079
person whom you've sinned against. I
don't understand. And the word repent you

705
00:55:27.119 --> 00:55:31.039
made, you said was the word
turn, but you but the word that

706
00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:37.920
actually was translated repent and Jonah and
then the other Old Testament passages doesn't mean

707
00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:42.920
to turn. It's a completely different
Hebrew word. Oh man, Okay,

708
00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:45.480
at least he's got the change of
mind concept. All right, let's see

709
00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:47.960
he's gonna get the change of mind
from First Kings. I'm so worried about

710
00:55:47.960 --> 00:55:53.840
what's going to happen here. But
let's see the idea of repentance is actually

711
00:55:53.880 --> 00:55:59.480
something that happens in your heart.
See, because people say, well,

712
00:55:59.519 --> 00:56:00.719
yeah, the word repent means to
turn. It means you were going in

713
00:56:00.760 --> 00:56:04.920
one direction, you know, now
you start going in another direction. But

714
00:56:04.960 --> 00:56:09.119
that's not what the Bible says.
Now, sometimes it'll produce that, But

715
00:56:09.199 --> 00:56:14.719
what the Bible actually teaches is that
repentance is a turn in your heart.

716
00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:22.079
It's a turn in your mind.
What the word actually means is to change

717
00:56:22.400 --> 00:56:25.000
your mind. Let me just give
you a couple of examples. First Kings,

718
00:56:25.079 --> 00:56:29.360
chapter eight. Look at verse forty
six. First Kings, eight forty

719
00:56:29.360 --> 00:56:34.679
six. Notice what Solomon says.
He says he's praying to God, and

720
00:56:34.719 --> 00:56:37.920
he's praying to God about the people. For the people. He says,

721
00:56:37.000 --> 00:56:42.360
if they sin against thee, for
there is no man that sinneth not,

722
00:56:43.199 --> 00:56:45.599
and I'll be angry with them and
deliver them to the enemy, so that

723
00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:51.360
they carry them away captives, onto
the land of the enemy far or near.

724
00:56:52.039 --> 00:56:57.440
Look at verse forty seven. Yet, if they shall mark this word

725
00:56:57.440 --> 00:57:05.400
in your Bible bethink. Yet,
if they shall bethink themselves in the land

726
00:57:05.440 --> 00:57:09.239
whither they were carried captives, and
mark this one in your bible repent.

727
00:57:10.800 --> 00:57:15.719
I want you to notice that the
Bible is using the word bethink and the

728
00:57:15.760 --> 00:57:24.400
word repent synonymously. Okay, So
here we go one Kings eighteen forty six.

729
00:57:24.639 --> 00:57:29.679
All right, So what when they
sin against you? For there is

730
00:57:29.719 --> 00:57:32.320
no one who does not sin?
I do love that phrase. And you

731
00:57:32.440 --> 00:57:37.880
become angry with them and deliver them
to the enemy, and they take them

732
00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:40.639
captive to the land of the enemy, far or near. Yet when they

733
00:57:40.679 --> 00:57:46.039
come to themselves and the land where
they were carried captive and repent and make

734
00:57:46.119 --> 00:57:50.719
supplication to you, I'm reading from
the new King James. Now what he's

735
00:57:50.760 --> 00:57:52.119
doing. He's reading from the King
James. Let me go read from the

736
00:57:52.199 --> 00:58:00.440
King James, eighteen forty seven.
Yet, if they shall bethink themselves and

737
00:58:00.519 --> 00:58:05.079
the land whether they were carried captive
and repent. Now he's saying these two

738
00:58:05.119 --> 00:58:10.639
words are synonymous bethink. The idea
of bethink themselves and repent is synonymous.

739
00:58:10.679 --> 00:58:15.719
All right, he's making that synonymous
claim again. Well, guess what in

740
00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:22.440
this case, something very very interesting
takes place if bethink, they shall guess

741
00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:30.400
what Hebrew word it is? Strong's
h. Seventy seven five shoove, shoove,

742
00:58:31.559 --> 00:58:37.159
shoove. This is good, this
is hilarious. Okay. And now

743
00:58:37.199 --> 00:58:40.760
the word repent here is the Hebrew
word? Can anybody guess what the Hebrew

744
00:58:40.760 --> 00:58:50.559
word is here? Can you guess? He guess it is Strong's h.

745
00:58:50.599 --> 00:58:59.519
Seventy seven five shoove shoove. No. Earlier he was saying shoove what means

746
00:58:59.559 --> 00:59:04.079
to turn to turn? Now he
wants to say shove simply means to change

747
00:59:04.079 --> 00:59:12.079
your mind. But the Hebrew word
shove here literally means to turn. Oh

748
00:59:12.119 --> 00:59:15.400
man, hey, I don't even
know. I can't even follow this word

749
00:59:15.440 --> 00:59:20.480
study method. Like he doesn't realize
I don't understand what he's doing. I

750
00:59:20.880 --> 00:59:25.159
don't, I am. I'm getting
frustrated now now I'm getting frustrated. All

751
00:59:25.239 --> 00:59:30.960
right. So and in First Kings
eight forty seven, all right, I'm

752
00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:36.320
going back to the King James.
Right, So in First Kings eight forty

753
00:59:36.320 --> 00:59:42.559
seven. And yet if they shall
bethink themselves, bethink themselves, the new

754
00:59:42.679 --> 00:59:47.400
King James translates bethink themselves. Guess
how they handle it when they come to

755
00:59:47.519 --> 00:59:52.079
themselves in the land, When they
come to themselves, well, the Hebrew

756
00:59:52.079 --> 00:59:55.840
word there's when they return to themselves, or they turn to themselves, or

757
00:59:57.079 --> 01:00:02.440
they they something happens. And then
and the land where they were carried captive

758
01:00:02.719 --> 01:00:08.239
and repent and make supplication to you. The repent and the bethink themselves is

759
01:00:08.280 --> 01:00:12.480
the same thing. But he's ain't. Bethink themselves means to change your mind.

760
01:00:12.559 --> 01:00:16.679
But Shuve doesn't have the idea of
changing mind. Shove has the idea

761
01:00:17.039 --> 01:00:25.559
of turning. It's the same Hebrew
word. And I bet I mean,

762
01:00:25.599 --> 01:00:28.760
in fact, let me let me
look at here. I bet, let

763
01:00:28.800 --> 01:00:31.000
me let me. I'm gonna look
at every English translation I can find.

764
01:00:31.000 --> 01:00:37.760
I'm gonna look at every English translation
I can find. First, Kings,

765
01:00:38.039 --> 01:00:50.199
we're in chapter eight forty seven.
Yeah, and if they change, and

766
01:00:50.239 --> 01:00:53.719
if they have a change of heart, and the land uh uh. But

767
01:00:53.840 --> 01:01:00.119
in the land they might turn to
you in repentance. If they turn their

768
01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:02.440
heart and the land to which they
have been carried captive and repent. See

769
01:01:02.519 --> 01:01:07.159
the other translations have this as turn, turn if they turn and repent what

770
01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:12.719
he was trying to argue in the
other passages. Really, this passage supports

771
01:01:12.760 --> 01:01:16.360
his previous argument. His previous argument
made no sense because it was different Hebrew

772
01:01:16.400 --> 01:01:22.199
words. This case his argument that
he's now arguing against. But that's the

773
01:01:22.239 --> 01:01:30.159
same Hebrew word. This is the
idea turn turn, Oh man, I

774
01:01:31.280 --> 01:01:38.679
don't just like it. Use the
word repent and turn now it's we can

775
01:01:38.760 --> 01:01:44.679
add another synonym, and is this
word bethink yet if they shall bethink themselves

776
01:01:44.719 --> 01:01:49.519
in the land whether they were carried
captives and repent, and makes application unto

777
01:01:49.559 --> 01:01:52.920
thee in the land of them that
carried them captives, saying we have sin

778
01:01:52.199 --> 01:01:58.880
and have done perversely, we have
committed wickedness this world. We think is

779
01:01:58.920 --> 01:02:04.360
an older word that we don't use
too often today. But the definition biblically,

780
01:02:04.440 --> 01:02:09.440
the Biblical definition of the word we
think is to return, to turn,

781
01:02:10.599 --> 01:02:17.480
to reconsider in your heart or in
your mind. Yeah, because it's

782
01:02:17.519 --> 01:02:22.559
the Hebrew word. Shoot, it's
the Hebrew word that means turn. You

783
01:02:22.639 --> 01:02:27.079
said it meant change of mind.
The Hebrew word here doesn't mean change of

784
01:02:27.079 --> 01:02:30.760
mind. It means the turn.
Oh, and now he gives a definition

785
01:02:30.920 --> 01:02:37.559
that means oh, he said it
meant change of mind. Now he literally

786
01:02:37.639 --> 01:02:45.400
gives a definition that has to turn. Oh. Man, man, man,

787
01:02:45.480 --> 01:02:50.480
man, man man. Okay,
all I can do now is just

788
01:02:50.519 --> 01:02:52.079
let that we're over an hour.
I can just I'm just gonna try to

789
01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:58.639
follow this because I am so this
is so crazy trying to follow this,

790
01:02:58.960 --> 01:03:04.639
like I don't understan stand, like
this is crazy to I just I am

791
01:03:04.719 --> 01:03:13.920
so confused like it. So here's
all I'm gonna saying. Look, if

792
01:03:13.920 --> 01:03:16.079
the people, if they sin against
THEE, for there is no man that

793
01:03:16.119 --> 01:03:20.039
sin is not, and they'll be
angry with them and deliver them to the

794
01:03:20.159 --> 01:03:22.760
enemy, so that they carry them, so that they carry them away captives,

795
01:03:22.920 --> 01:03:27.639
onto the land of the enemy far
or near. Yet, if they

796
01:03:27.639 --> 01:03:31.760
shall bethink themselves in the land whether
they were carried captives, and repent and

797
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:36.960
make supplication unto THEE in the land
of them that carry them captives, saying

798
01:03:36.960 --> 01:03:39.400
we have sin and have done perversely, we have committed wickedness. What is

799
01:03:39.440 --> 01:03:43.280
the Bible telling us here when it
says be thinking it says, if they

800
01:03:43.320 --> 01:03:50.159
reconsider, if they change their mind, if they the word think is in

801
01:03:50.239 --> 01:03:55.119
the word bethink, if they change
the way they're thinking about something, and

802
01:03:55.159 --> 01:04:01.320
they repent, and they turn where
in their heart in the mine. And

803
01:04:01.480 --> 01:04:08.639
Solomon is saying, here there are
supplications help them. Let me give you

804
01:04:08.679 --> 01:04:11.559
another example. Go to Second Chronicles, chapter six. You're there in First

805
01:04:11.639 --> 01:04:23.719
Kings. You're going past Second Kings. Okay, uh okay. I was

806
01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:28.639
looking, all right, I was
trying to look at he it's weird.

807
01:04:28.719 --> 01:04:32.599
He he's he's, he's. He
kind of gave the definition of the Hebrew

808
01:04:32.639 --> 01:04:35.880
word shove, and then he tried
to give a definition of the word bethink.

809
01:04:36.960 --> 01:04:42.639
And I'm so confused here in what
he's doing. I'm just gonna I'm

810
01:04:42.639 --> 01:04:46.760
just gonna let him go to the
next passage. This is getting really i

811
01:04:46.960 --> 01:04:51.000
I'm at this point, I don't
even really understand where he's going. You're

812
01:04:51.039 --> 01:04:55.320
definitely if you took his definition of
repentance, I think you're gonna be all

813
01:04:55.360 --> 01:05:01.159
confused, because he's he's conflated terms. He's conflated words that are any saying

814
01:05:01.159 --> 01:05:04.519
things are synonymous that are not synonymous. They're completely different. Hebrew words.

815
01:05:04.599 --> 01:05:09.519
And then when he was in a
passage where he literally could have demonstrated repentance

816
01:05:09.519 --> 01:05:13.960
means a change of mind meton not
ao, he completely skipped the Greek word.

817
01:05:14.199 --> 01:05:15.760
Then he runs back to the Old
Testament. Then he says, well,

818
01:05:15.760 --> 01:05:19.360
these words are synonymous. Well,
they're actually synonymous, but then he

819
01:05:19.440 --> 01:05:25.559
makes them synonymous of something that's not
what the actual definition of the Hebrew word

820
01:05:25.679 --> 01:05:29.719
is. It's so weird, like
let's say word he does here in Chronicles

821
01:05:32.840 --> 01:05:39.880
past First Chronicles into Second Chronicles.
Second Chronicles, chapter six, the definition

822
01:05:40.119 --> 01:05:46.760
of the word repentance is to turn, and it is to change your mind.

823
01:05:47.719 --> 01:05:53.519
Second Chronicles, chapter six, verse
thirty seven. According to the Bible,

824
01:05:53.559 --> 01:05:56.840
the word repent means to turn,
and according to the Bible, repent

825
01:05:56.880 --> 01:05:59.599
means to change your mind. Let
me just give you another example, Second

826
01:05:59.639 --> 01:06:02.960
Chronicle six, verse thirty seven.
Yet, if they look at the word

827
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bethink, Yet, if they bethink
themselves in the land, whether they are

828
01:06:10.239 --> 01:06:15.880
carried captive, and don't miss it, look at the word turn. Notice

829
01:06:15.880 --> 01:06:20.440
how these words are being used.
Okay, all right now, oh man,

830
01:06:20.480 --> 01:06:25.239
this is even gonna get more complicated. Second Chronicle, six point thirty

831
01:06:25.400 --> 01:06:29.800
seven. Yet when they come to
themselves in the land where they were carried.

832
01:06:29.920 --> 01:06:30.880
All right, he's reading it from
the King James. Let me go

833
01:06:30.880 --> 01:06:34.920
to the King James. Okay,
yet, if they bethink themselves in the

834
01:06:35.000 --> 01:06:39.239
land, now this bethink all right, I'm gonna go back to verse thirty

835
01:06:39.239 --> 01:06:43.400
seven, go back to the antell
in here is a completely different Hebrew word.

836
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All right, This one is Strong's
h four thirteen al al and when

837
01:06:55.199 --> 01:07:00.800
in construct l l Okay, Now, hang on, I'm trying to This

838
01:07:00.840 --> 01:07:04.400
gets really confusing. Okay, wait, so yet if they bethink themselves,

839
01:07:04.639 --> 01:07:13.239
that's all that entire phrase they if
think yet themselves, that entire phrase comes

840
01:07:13.239 --> 01:07:18.719
from that Hebrew word l, which
means too toward, into toward direction against

841
01:07:19.159 --> 01:07:27.119
concerning regard according this Strong's definition,
denoting motion towards, but occasionally used of

842
01:07:27.159 --> 01:07:31.400
a position. Oh, I mean, I don't know where I like.

843
01:07:31.719 --> 01:07:36.679
But because what he does is bethink
themselves and carried captive and turn and pray,

844
01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:41.199
He's like, hey, hey see, it's it's that he's making them

845
01:07:41.559 --> 01:07:45.760
the same. But the turn there, the turn is I guarantee, a

846
01:07:45.800 --> 01:07:50.840
completely different Greek word or a Hebrew
word completely turn. Well, guess what

847
01:07:50.920 --> 01:07:54.800
turn is. We know what turn
is. We know what it is.

848
01:07:56.519 --> 01:08:03.679
Strong's h seventy seven five. Shoove, shove, it's shove. So the

849
01:08:04.800 --> 01:08:09.519
turn is shove, which we know. We've seen that now one hundred times.

850
01:08:09.760 --> 01:08:13.280
But the bethink, he keeps trying
to connect shove to bethink. It's

851
01:08:13.320 --> 01:08:17.560
not the same thing. It's completely
different. Hebrew word. I am losing

852
01:08:17.640 --> 01:08:20.520
my mind here. I'm gonna read
it from the King James. Yet,

853
01:08:20.520 --> 01:08:26.640
when they come to themselves in the
land where they were carried captive and repent

854
01:08:26.920 --> 01:08:36.720
or turn and make supplication. Now, okay, let's just see what he

855
01:08:36.760 --> 01:08:42.359
does. Let's just see what he
does. Yet, if they bethink themselves

856
01:08:42.399 --> 01:08:45.439
in land, whether they are carried
away captive. Yet, if they bethink

857
01:08:45.479 --> 01:08:47.880
themselves in land, whether they are
carried captive, and turn and pray unto

858
01:08:47.920 --> 01:08:51.119
thee in the land of their captivit
he's saying, we have sin, we

859
01:08:51.199 --> 01:08:58.920
have done amiss, we have dealt
wickedly. So it's clear the wood repent

860
01:08:58.960 --> 01:09:01.920
means to turn, and the word
repent means to be think, And the

861
01:09:01.920 --> 01:09:05.239
word we think means to turn in
your heart, to turn in your mind.

862
01:09:05.760 --> 01:09:10.600
We would say it means to change
your mind. So what is the

863
01:09:10.640 --> 01:09:15.479
definition of repentance. It is a
turn in your mind. It is a

864
01:09:15.600 --> 01:09:23.319
change of mind. Now this is
bizarre because in reality me and him believe

865
01:09:23.439 --> 01:09:28.239
the same thing. Repentance is a
change of mind. When it comes to

866
01:09:28.319 --> 01:09:32.039
salvation, repentance is a change of
mind. It's dealing when you're dealing with

867
01:09:32.079 --> 01:09:39.199
salvation. Metanio is dealing with salvation. It's a change of mind, which

868
01:09:39.279 --> 01:09:43.600
is required for salvation. You have
to change your mind for salvation. But

869
01:09:43.640 --> 01:09:47.720
he says it's not a requirement for
salvation. You have to change your mind

870
01:09:47.720 --> 01:09:50.880
for salvation, or you would never
go for mind belief to believe. You

871
01:09:50.920 --> 01:09:54.760
would never say, well, now, hey, I didn't think I was

872
01:09:54.800 --> 01:09:57.880
a sinner, but I'm a sinner. Hey I didn't believe in Jesus dying

873
01:09:57.880 --> 01:10:00.359
for my sins, but now I
do. And if you say it's a

874
01:10:00.439 --> 01:10:03.439
change of mind, then it would
have to be a requirement for salvation.

875
01:10:06.159 --> 01:10:10.479
The weird thing is we kind of
come to the same conclusion. How he

876
01:10:10.560 --> 01:10:17.680
got there is that I don't even
understand that he's making That is crazy how

877
01:10:17.720 --> 01:10:20.720
he got there. But at least
we're somewhat on the same page, but

878
01:10:20.840 --> 01:10:27.760
now I'm confused why he says it's
not requirement for salvation. Go to Matthew

879
01:10:27.840 --> 01:10:32.439
chapter twenty one if you wouldn't Matthew
twenty one. I want to be very

880
01:10:32.520 --> 01:10:36.800
clear about what the Bible teaches about
these things, because I want you to

881
01:10:36.920 --> 01:10:45.760
understand what repentance is and what it
is that we're supposed to do with this

882
01:10:45.880 --> 01:10:50.520
concept of repentance. So we talked
about the misconception of repentance and the wrong

883
01:10:50.600 --> 01:10:56.079
teaching of repentance because we need to
just clear that up. Telling people that

884
01:10:56.119 --> 01:11:00.239
repentance is always in reference to repenting
of your sins is wrong. It is

885
01:11:00.279 --> 01:11:04.960
an error that makes God a sinner
because God repents more than anyone else in

886
01:11:04.960 --> 01:11:10.600
the Bible, and telling people that
they have to repent of their sins in

887
01:11:10.680 --> 01:11:14.720
order to be saved is an error, and it is wrong because it is

888
01:11:14.720 --> 01:11:18.399
adding works to salvation, because when
somebody turns from their evil way, God

889
01:11:18.439 --> 01:11:26.039
refers to that as works. If
you define repentance as a turning away,

890
01:11:26.399 --> 01:11:30.600
but you said repentance is a turn
in your mind, then it would be

891
01:11:30.680 --> 01:11:40.520
required for salvation. Right. Then
we talked about the definition of repentance.

892
01:11:41.199 --> 01:11:44.039
The definition of repentance. According to
the Bible, the word repent means to

893
01:11:44.119 --> 01:11:46.760
turn, and according to the Bible, the word repent means to be think

894
01:11:47.840 --> 01:11:51.520
or to turn in your heart,
to turn in your mind. We would

895
01:11:51.560 --> 01:11:56.560
say to change your mind. That's
what repent means. And by the way,

896
01:11:56.840 --> 01:12:00.840
isn't that the application we see when
God repents? I mean Genesis six,

897
01:12:01.039 --> 01:12:04.319
he looks down on the earth and
it repentes God that he made men.

898
01:12:05.960 --> 01:12:09.359
He's grieved. The Bible says,
what does that mean? He's regretting

899
01:12:09.439 --> 01:12:13.720
it. He changes his mind.
He's like, ah, I should have

900
01:12:13.760 --> 01:12:17.960
done this, and then he oh, now we're getting some serious problems.

901
01:12:19.039 --> 01:12:23.359
If you say God changes his mind, you gotta be very careful. You've

902
01:12:23.359 --> 01:12:28.239
got to articulate what that means.
That would destroy the omniscience of God,

903
01:12:28.239 --> 01:12:33.199
that would destroy his eternal decrees,
that would destroy his providence. That's why

904
01:12:33.359 --> 01:12:39.239
the Hebrew word when it says God
repented, is not change your mind.

905
01:12:39.520 --> 01:12:44.920
It's not turn. It's a completely
different Hebrew word that should not be translated

906
01:12:45.039 --> 01:12:49.079
repent. It's a completely different Hebrew
word. What is so complicated here?

907
01:12:53.920 --> 01:12:57.680
Now there may be a case where
he says God repented and hiss us that

908
01:12:57.760 --> 01:13:00.600
Hebrew word and we would have to
deal with it to exempt he gave.

909
01:13:00.880 --> 01:13:05.399
It's a completely different Hebrew word.
That does not mean turn or change your

910
01:13:05.439 --> 01:13:12.560
mind. It expresses the emotion,
not oh man, I don't understand.

911
01:13:12.520 --> 01:13:15.760
And now you're gonna say God changes
his mind. How does an omission God

912
01:13:15.840 --> 01:13:20.319
change his mind? Is God is
not so God is? Are you saying

913
01:13:20.319 --> 01:13:25.600
he's not immutable? Like, I
don't even understand. Now this has gone

914
01:13:25.680 --> 01:13:28.960
so far off the rails now,
I don't even know where this is going.

915
01:13:30.920 --> 01:13:35.039
Kills all of them except for noble, And there's other times when he's

916
01:13:35.039 --> 01:13:40.520
going to bring judgment upon someone,
but then he repented of the evil that

917
01:13:40.600 --> 01:13:43.560
he was going to do. He
was going to destroy them, but then

918
01:13:43.640 --> 01:13:46.880
because they did something, they repented, they did the right thing. Then

919
01:13:46.960 --> 01:13:51.319
he changes his mind and chooses not
to judge them, chooses not to destroy

920
01:13:51.359 --> 01:13:59.199
them. That's what the word means. So now that we understand that is

921
01:13:59.359 --> 01:14:04.640
not what the word means, you've
yet to give me an example in the

922
01:14:04.680 --> 01:14:10.039
Old Testament where the King James translators
use the word repentance to God, where

923
01:14:10.079 --> 01:14:17.640
the Hebrew word means that it's a
different Hebrew word. It's not shove what

924
01:14:24.399 --> 01:14:30.920
oh man, this okay, he's
in Matthew. We'll see what happens here.

925
01:14:30.920 --> 01:14:38.960
We'll see what happens here. Stand
the definition of repentance. Let's talk

926
01:14:39.000 --> 01:14:44.199
about the application of repentance. How
does this actually apply to us in the

927
01:14:44.239 --> 01:14:46.439
Bible. And there's two ways that
we can apply this, and I'd like

928
01:14:46.479 --> 01:14:50.399
to explain both of them. One
is before salvation and one is after salvation.

929
01:14:51.399 --> 01:14:57.680
What is the application of repentance before
salvation? The application of repentance before

930
01:14:57.720 --> 01:15:00.760
salvation? Is this? Because remember, the word repent needs to turn to

931
01:15:00.840 --> 01:15:03.479
change your mind, to be think, to change in your heart, changing

932
01:15:03.520 --> 01:15:10.479
your mind. When it comes to
salvation, what is the thing that condemns

933
01:15:10.520 --> 01:15:14.720
you? What is the thing that
saves you? Well? The Bible is

934
01:15:14.720 --> 01:15:17.239
clear about the fact that we are
saved by believing on the Lord Jesus Christ.

935
01:15:18.399 --> 01:15:23.199
Remember Paul told the Philippian jailer,
believe on the Lord Jesus Christ,

936
01:15:23.199 --> 01:15:29.159
and thou shalt be saved. Whosover
believeth on the Son hath everlasting life.

937
01:15:29.640 --> 01:15:32.640
He that believeth not the Son shall
not see life, but the wrath of

938
01:15:32.680 --> 01:15:38.399
God abideth on him. So what
saves you believing on the Lord Jesus Christ,

939
01:15:38.640 --> 01:15:44.560
what condemns you not believing? So
when it comes to repentance in regards

940
01:15:44.560 --> 01:15:51.119
to salvation, before salvation, repentance
is to turn from unbelief to belief.

941
01:15:55.239 --> 01:16:03.680
Amen. Therefore it's essential for salvation. Let me just prove that to you

942
01:16:03.760 --> 01:16:10.560
in the Bible. It's very clear, because remember our repent of this repent

943
01:16:10.600 --> 01:16:14.840
of your sins. Friends out there
are repent of your sins. Heretics out

944
01:16:14.840 --> 01:16:17.720
there. They like to take us
to all these verses in the New Testament

945
01:16:17.920 --> 01:16:23.119
where it just says repent, repent
for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand,

946
01:16:23.840 --> 01:16:27.520
doesn't prove anything. But you know
that there are some other clear verses

947
01:16:27.520 --> 01:16:30.880
that tell you exactly what they meant
by that. Matthew twenty one. Look

948
01:16:30.880 --> 01:16:34.239
at verse thirty two. Matthew twenty
one, thirty two, For John came

949
01:16:34.279 --> 01:16:42.560
unto you. This is Jesus speaking
to the Pharisees, and he's referring back

950
01:16:42.600 --> 01:16:45.439
to what it is that John the
Baptist had preached. He says, for

951
01:16:45.560 --> 01:16:51.359
John came unto you in the way
of righteousness, and ye believed him.

952
01:16:51.479 --> 01:17:00.119
Not so what does Jesus say that
the Pharisees fail to do with the preaching

953
01:17:00.119 --> 01:17:03.279
of John John the Baptists, For
John came unto you in the way of

954
01:17:03.359 --> 01:17:08.239
righteousness, and he believed him.
Not what did they not do? They

955
01:17:08.279 --> 01:17:13.399
did not believe him? He believed
him not. Then he contrasts that,

956
01:17:14.000 --> 01:17:18.439
he says, but the Publicans and
the Harlots believed him. So he says,

957
01:17:18.520 --> 01:17:24.680
you didn't believe him, But then
there's another group that didn't believe him.

958
01:17:24.760 --> 01:17:28.600
So look, Jesus is being very
clear. What's the opposite of the

959
01:17:28.640 --> 01:17:32.760
Pharisees. The Pharisees did not believe
and the opposite of that is that the

960
01:17:32.840 --> 01:17:39.039
Publicans and the Harlotz did believe.
Here's what's interesting about that. The Pharisees

961
01:17:39.199 --> 01:17:45.880
were these religious people that prided themselves
on how holy they were, while the

962
01:17:45.960 --> 01:17:51.880
Publicans and the Harlots are known as
sinful people. But yet the Pharisees believed

963
01:17:51.920 --> 01:17:56.560
him, not the Publicans and Harlots
believed him. Look at the last part

964
01:17:56.600 --> 01:17:59.359
of Matthew twenty one. Actually,
just look at the whole verse just to

965
01:17:59.359 --> 01:18:01.479
get the context. Mat He twenty
one thirty two. For John came unto

966
01:18:01.479 --> 01:18:04.399
you. This is Jesus speaking for
John came unto you in the way of

967
01:18:04.439 --> 01:18:08.920
righteousness, and he believed them not, But the publicans in the harlest believed

968
01:18:08.960 --> 01:18:14.000
him, and ye when he had
seen it. He's talking to the Pharisees.

969
01:18:15.119 --> 01:18:18.520
When you saw that the publicans in
the hardest believed him, and he

970
01:18:18.720 --> 01:18:24.960
when he had seen it. Look
what he says, repented not afterward that

971
01:18:25.079 --> 01:18:31.199
ye might believe him. What is
Jesus rebuking the Pharisees for. He's rebuking

972
01:18:31.239 --> 01:18:36.359
them for not repenting because they did
not believe. Ye believed him not,

973
01:18:36.680 --> 01:18:40.880
And he says, if you would
have repented, that would have caused you

974
01:18:41.000 --> 01:18:45.239
to believe repented not afterward, that
ye might believe him. If they would

975
01:18:45.239 --> 01:18:47.960
have repented, like Jesus is encouraging
them to do, they would have turned

976
01:18:48.279 --> 01:18:57.600
or gone from believe him not to
believe him, which would make repentance essential

977
01:18:57.800 --> 01:19:08.079
for salvation. Do you understand that's
not complicated. What does somebody have to

978
01:19:08.119 --> 01:19:13.039
do if they want to be saved? They have to go from unbelief or

979
01:19:13.039 --> 01:19:21.000
from a false belief and believe on
the Lord Jesus Christ. You need to

980
01:19:21.079 --> 01:19:26.960
change your mind, which is repent, so repentance is essential for salvation.

981
01:19:29.880 --> 01:19:32.880
You can't say repentance is not necessary
for salvation and then say repentance as a

982
01:19:32.960 --> 01:19:36.119
change of mind, where you change
your mind and you move from unbelief to

983
01:19:36.159 --> 01:19:43.159
believe, because then that makes it
essential for salvation. When it comes to

984
01:19:43.359 --> 01:19:47.720
repentance and salvation, it's turning from
unbelief or false belief to faith in the

985
01:19:47.720 --> 01:19:51.800
Lord Jesus Christ. But where is
it saying here that you got to stop

986
01:19:51.840 --> 01:19:58.399
sinning? In fact, wouldn't it
make more sense that if repentance just meant

987
01:19:58.640 --> 01:20:00.600
stop sinning, that he would tell
the publicans and the harlots, look,

988
01:20:00.960 --> 01:20:04.600
you know what a harlot is.
Wouldn't it make more sense that he's telling

989
01:20:04.640 --> 01:20:09.880
them, you really gotta knock this
off, You really need to stop sitting.

990
01:20:10.840 --> 01:20:15.399
He's telling the religious people you should
have repented, repented from what from

991
01:20:15.479 --> 01:20:19.520
unbelief to belief. For John came
unto you in the way of righteousness,

992
01:20:19.520 --> 01:20:23.800
and ye believed them not, But
the publicans and the harlots believed them,

993
01:20:23.880 --> 01:20:27.920
And ye, when he had seen
it, repented not afterward that ye might

994
01:20:27.960 --> 01:20:31.359
believe. So according to Jesus,
if they would have repented they would have

995
01:20:31.399 --> 01:20:36.960
gone from not believing to believing.
Why Because the word repent means to turn

996
01:20:38.039 --> 01:20:45.439
or to change your mind. And
they believed one thing they did not believe

997
01:20:45.439 --> 01:20:47.560
on the Lord Jesus Christ. They
were trusting in their own religion to save

998
01:20:47.600 --> 01:20:51.560
them. And they have to turn
change their mind about that and go from

999
01:20:51.680 --> 01:20:56.000
unbelief to believe. Me give you
another example. Go to Mark chapter one.

1000
01:20:56.239 --> 01:21:00.319
You there in Matthew, just flip
it and we'll stop there. And

1001
01:21:00.359 --> 01:21:03.399
I agree with all of that.
But the thing that bothers me, unless

1002
01:21:03.439 --> 01:21:10.239
I misheard him and part one are
in our part one, and this message

1003
01:21:10.359 --> 01:21:13.279
in our first episode, in our
first part of this review, I thought

1004
01:21:13.319 --> 01:21:16.640
he said that repentance is not necessary
for salvation. This would make repentance necessary

1005
01:21:16.720 --> 01:21:23.600
for salvation. The issue is it's
necessary for salvation. But and how you

1006
01:21:23.800 --> 01:21:30.560
define it. It is absolutely necessary
that you change your mind. It is

1007
01:21:30.640 --> 01:21:36.199
absolutely necessary you go from unbelieved to
believe. Therefore, repentance is necessary.

1008
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Repentance is not repentance as far as
turning from your sin is not necessary for

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salvation. If you mean turning from
actual the practice of sin, you're turning

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to God, You're turning from your
sin to God for salvation from your sin,

1011
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from the condemnation your sin brings.
Wow, that that got way more

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complicated than it needed to be.
He could have he could have demonstrated what

1013
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repentance was a whole lot easier than
that. He could have went to metan

1014
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metana. Oh yeah, if I'm
saying correctly. Uh, And he could

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have simply looked at the meaning of
the Greek word and been able to demonstrate

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it. His way of trying to
prove that was it falls apart because he

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was making words mean the same thing
that don't mean the same thing, and

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then he ended up falling into saying
God changes his mind. So what what?

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In some ways I mean complete agreement, but then I mean complete disagreement

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with how he got there. That's
a weird place to be. All right,

1021
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we're gonna have to stop their word
eighty two minutes, So that went

1022
01:22:46.119 --> 01:22:49.560
way longer. I don't know what
we're gonna do. Maybe we'll finish it,

1023
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maybe you want you should go finish
it though. The Repent of your

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01:22:53.840 --> 01:23:00.439
sins confusion, The Repent of your
sins confusion of Verity Baptist Church please look

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it up, and there's series rooted
and grounded. I think it's the name

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of the series. Please look it
up. The part that what they call

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part one is faith in works,
Part two is the Repent of your sins

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confusion. Please look them up,
listen to both of them. But wow,

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that was a that was a great
lesson and how not to do word

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studies. That is a perfect example
of how not to do a word study.

1031
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That is a perfect example of how
not to do a word study.

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But what's fascinating He's he still kind
of shows up primarily almost closely with the

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right answer, but he gave everyone
complete, fraudulent and wrong information about those

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words in the Old Testament, and
he stumbled into basically God changing his mind,

1035
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which calls into question God's sovereignty,
his omniscience everything. I think I

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said omnipotence early, but omniscions.
Yeah, this is just his eternal decrees,

1037
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his providence. I mean, there
are all kinds of problems, but

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just remember on all the verses he
gave where it says God repented, it

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did not use shoot or any Hebrew
word that would speak of God turning or

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changing. The Hebrew word used there
for God repenting. It describes almost an

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01:24:25.039 --> 01:24:30.520
emotional, an emotion, a completely
different idea as we've already looked at now

1042
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multiple times. All right, I
hope I kept that Greek, Hebrew,

1043
01:24:34.520 --> 01:24:40.119
different Hebrew words, all of that
in real time. But man, that

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was maybe you can tell me if
you thought it was confusing, you can

1045
01:24:44.640 --> 01:24:47.279
let me know. Hopefully I tried
to bring clarity to what was confusing me

1046
01:24:47.319 --> 01:24:49.359
in real time. I don't know
if I accomplished that, but you can

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email me newsif at yahoo dot com, newsif at yahoo dot com. What

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frustrates me is the word study confusion
really distracted from the good things he is

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saying about repentance. He really is
doing a good thing here and teaching some

1050
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good ideas about what repentance is and
isn't and how we got to be careful

1051
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and how we utilize it in connection
to salvation, some very very powerful concepts.

1052
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But the whole word study there kind
of just utterly derailed it. And

1053
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that is really sad and really frustrating. But maybe we can we can try

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to find some way to put this
all back together and do something positive with

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it. We will see, all
right, Thanks for listening, and God bless