July 12, 2024

Psalm 83 and the Arab Spring

Psalm 83 and the Arab Spring

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More confusing discussion about Psalm 83

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Looking at our world from a theological
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making Theology Central. Someone make it
stop, please, someone make it

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stop. It just won't stop.
I don't understand. I don't understand anymore.

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I am confused, I am perplexed, I am confounded. I don't

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understand. I don't understand anything.
And well that's probably bad since oh I'm

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doing a series trying to explain it. Oh wait, I'll explain it all

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in just a minute. Just just
be patient. Good afternoon everyone. It

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is Friday, July the twelfth,
twenty twenty four. It is currently three

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thirty five pm Central Time, and
I am coming to you live from the

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Theology Central studio located right here in
Abilene, Texas. And because it's Friday,

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you know what that means, right, It's Friday. So right here

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in the studio, my focus has
to really kind of change from podcasting and

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the series we're working on and all
of that, and it has to kind

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of shift not from you know,
podcasting, but it has to shift to

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what I'm going to be preaching and
teaching on Sunday. And if you've been

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paying any attention, you know that
what we've been working on on Sunday is

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PS eighty three. We have been
working, and there's a part of me

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that, uh, there's a part
of me like how did I get myself

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into this mess? Like how do
I get out of this? Just someone

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make it stop. On one hand, I just kind of want to be

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done. On the other hand,
I'm like, man, if I can

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make it all the way to the
end, maybe I will have accomplished something.

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I don't know. I think I've
given some very interesting points about some

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many three. But I'm struggling.
But I've been sitting. I've been up

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and down the steps like a lot
today because I have all kinds of things

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I need to do downstairs. So
I've been helping downstairs, moving this,

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doing this, putting this together,
doing all kinds of things like that.

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I just I've got all kinds of
things to do. So in between doing

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things, I keep running back up
the steps and I'll keep I keep coming

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around right here to the microphone,
and I'm like, Okay, well what

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do I do today? I need
to I need do I really want to

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broadcast today? Well? We got
to kind of continue to do that work

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on that. Well, that kind
of turned into a series on revival,

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right, I need to do a
little work on that. And then we

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started working on you know, lean
not to your own understanding, leaning wrong,

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and we looked at Abraham and how
he leaned towards Egypt, or should

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I say Abram how he leaned towards
Egypt. Well, maybe today we'll talk

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about Lot leaning towards Sodom and how
he leaned towards Sodom. Okay, So

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I started working on it, and
I started working on it, and then,

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you know, one page of notes
turned into two page of notes,

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and then turned into three pages,
and then turned into four pages, and

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I think I have now five pages
of just all kinds of different you know,

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thinking about it and trying to you
know, okay, well what about

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this? Well I know this is
the way most people present, but maybe

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maybe our preaching of this is completely
wrong. Maybe we should approach it from

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this perspective. So I was kind
of create different hypotheses and then testing them,

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and I'm like, Okay, that's
what I'm going to do. I

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am going to do something on Lot
in Genesis chapter thirteen. That's what I'm

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going to do because I need to. And then I'm like, but wait,

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wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, it's it's Friday.

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You gotta, you gotta, you
gotta start moving your attention to saw eighty

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three because you're going to be spending
two hours standing there behind a pulpit working

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on saw eighty three. So I'm
like, what do I do? What

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do I do? What do I
do? So I'm like, you know

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what, just take a break,
take a break, went back downstairs,

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came back upstairs, and I'm like, okay, let me just look at

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my feed on the sermons two point
oh app I told everyone to, you

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know, find twenty broadcasters and everyone
to monitor their feed. Remember I made

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a big deal out of that.
So I'm like, well, since I'm

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telling everyone to do that, let
me do that. So I opened up

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and I looked at my feed,
the feed tab, right, I look

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at my feed tab. I'm like, go all the way back to it,

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because I opened up fifty things and
I pulled down and I'm like,

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you gotta be kidding me. This
cannot be real. This cannot There's just

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no way. And I just sat
there and I looked at it and I

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just started shaking my head and I'm
like, this cannot be real. This

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cannot be in my feet. This
cannot be real. Who is messing with

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me? Like someone is messing with
me. Someone is trying to drive me

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to becoming an alcoholic. I can
they're trying to drive me to drink.

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Okay, not literally, but it
feels like someone is messing with me.

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It feels like it. They'm about
to knock my iPad completely off the table,

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but it feels like it because this
is what I found. Remember,

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way way back in a galaxy far
far, far, far far far away.

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How one day I had to go
do a lot of running around Abilene,

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Texas in my car, and so
I had to take people places and

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pick people up, and I'm doing
all these things. So I grabbed my

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iPad and downloaded a bunch of random
sermons to participate in the Sermon's two point

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oh app sermon challenge. I remember
one of those random sermons was The Coming

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Middle East War. And then when
I started playing it, I realized the

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full title was PSAWM eighty three The
Coming Middle East War, and I was

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like, oh wait, what is
this? And that started this it seems

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like never ending journey and dealing with
SSAW eighty three. And remember we reviewed

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a bunch of things within that series, and it just got confusing and like

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at times it really wasn't even about
SSAW eighty three. Some of the things

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being said about SAW eighty three.
I not only where there's just not accurate.

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I just like just maddening stuff,
maddening stuff. So I'm like,

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you gotta be well, obviously you
know where I'm going with this. I

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opened up my Sermon's two point oh
app and went to my feedsapp and there

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it is Psalm eighty three, Part
thirty one, from the same ministry that

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started all of this. Remember,
they changed the title from the Coming Middle

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East War to just SAW eighty three, like Part twelve thirteen, fourteen fifteen.

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I think they changed the title like
Part ten or Part eleven. And

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now they're at part thirty one.
Ladies and Gentlemen, thirty one. I

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am imploring you, I am begging
you to go listen to all thirty one

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parts. You say why, it's
frustrated you, it's confused you, it's

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confounded you. You've been somewhat irritated
by it at times I have. I'm

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also been appreciative because they made me
relook at SAW eighty three and decide is

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it a communal lament or is it
a precatory And I kind of apologize.

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I think I'm kind of back that
even though they say it's in a precreatory,

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I think it's a communal lament and
I think I can prove. I

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think I can prove that. So, but we went back and forth on

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that. So I've been learning things. But the reason I want you to

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listen to it is one because it's
the very thing that sparked all of this.

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But two, I just want you
to hear for yourself, not with

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my commentary, not with my analysis. I want you to hear all thirty

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one parts for yourself. I want
you to process what's being said. I

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want you to understand how does this
relate to Psalm eighty three. I want

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you to hear how the text is
being handled. You can draw your own

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conclusion. Forget what I have said. You draw your own conclusion. And

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the reason I just look, maybe
I shouldn't be this way, but there

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are times I listen to preaching or
teaching. I'm just gonna be honest with

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you. There are times it impacts
me different ways. Sometimes I will listen

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to preaching and teaching like man,
they are such a good communicator. I

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could never communicate as good as they
can. Wow, the way they handle

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the text. Wow, I never
could be that good. But I'm gonna

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be honest. There's other times I'm
like, wait a minute, that's that's

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the sermon, that's that's what they're
doing. And they have a huge church

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in radio ministry, and they have
all kinds of people giving donations, and

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they just brought in, you know, one hundred thousand dollars, like,

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and I'll be like, what in
the world, Like, if that's what

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people want, I just need to
retire. I just need to get I

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can't because I refuse to be that. Like there's sometimes I'm just like,

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not only can I not do that, I refuse to do that, And

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if that's what people want, there's
no point in me even trying anymore.

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Sometimes I get very discouraged. Right, Sometimes I may feel like, man,

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I can never be that good,
but I can work harder, right,

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I could do better. I can
I could improve. And then there's

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other times I'm like, well,
if that's what people want, just forget

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it. Just and and a lot
of what people want to be honest with,

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I just I refuse to provide.
I'm just not going to preach that

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way, teach that way. I'm
just not But if that's what people want,

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then there's no point. So sometimes
I get first with this series on

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Saw eighty three, there's a part
of me just going what I I don't

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even know what to do with it. So I was like, okay,

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all right, thirty one parts,
I'm a little bit behind. I think

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I'm back at like part twenty six. So I'm like, you know what,

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I don't know what to do right
now. I need to do this

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thing on lot and you know,
lean not to your own understanding, but

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I need to be working on Saw
eighty three. So I looked up some

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passages and saw or I looked up
some passages that are going to be relevant

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to Saw eighty three in the Book
of Judges, and I'm like, Okay,

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how do you say his name jereaball
or Okay, Okay, I think

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I've got that. Wait, how
do I say that name? Okay?

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Trying to make sure, Okay,
how much am I going to read from

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Judges? Just trying to figure out
some of the logistics and how I'm going

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to put it together. Okay,
wait do I ooh I could have a

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little section here on im precatory.
Okay, maybe I can do something with

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that. So I'm just trying to
figure out how I'm going to approach it.

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And then I'm like, you know, I'm not getting anything done.

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All right, I know what I'll
do. Since I'm behind in this series.

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Let me go back to part twenty
six and let me start listening.

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And I started listening, and some
thing's there. Then I'm like, okay,

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well, you know that's a good
point. That series. The pastor

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behind that series is very much believed
that God promised land Israel, and Israel

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will get that land. Okay,
we're in agreement there. I believe God

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gave a promise to land for Israel, and that is physical land and it's

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not to be spiritualized. So we're
in absolute agreement there. All right,

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good, Okay, that's good.
But then he mentioned something and I think

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this may be the second or third
time. I cannot if anyone listens to

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all thirty one parts, you can
tell me how many times they mention it.

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They mentioned the Arab Spring, and
I'm like, why is this series

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that's being put together In twenty twenty
four, continuing to mention the Arab Spring.

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How was long with twenty ten twenty
eleven, I'm not understanding, And

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what has that got to do with
Psalm eighty three, Like, I'm just

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completely back and what does that got
to do with Israel? Like I'm completely

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baffled by the whole thing. So
what I want to do is just play

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a little section where the Arab spring
is gonna be mentioned. I know what

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I want to do is just I'm
gonna look, I've stated it before,

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some we've we've I think we have
driven this point into the ground. I

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think I some people may say I'm
beating a dead horse, and I have

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no desire to do that. But
the more preaching I continue to listen to

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on Psawm eighty three, the more
I feel like I have to continue to

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repeat these issues. Psalm eighty three, Ladies and Gentlemen, is a I'm

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gonna I even if you say it's
in a precatory song, whether you say

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it's a precatory or whether you say
it's a lament. Psalm eighty three is

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Acef the worship leader at the time
of David, maybe into the beginning of

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the reign of Solomon. He is
expressing whether an imprecatory prayer or a lament

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based off the situation that is happening. Right then, this is not prophetic,

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it is it's a historical description of
what they were facing and the emotions

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and the desires that were arising from
the situation they were facing at that time.

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This is not talking about some incoming
Middle East war. This is talking

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about what was going on at the
time. No one has come even anywhere

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close to trying to make a argument
otherwise. The best we got is someone

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try to connect it to Second Chronicles
twenty and then they made ridiculous comment that

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basically Acef was alive at the time, which is just not true. So

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then we're like, okay, you
know what, No, this is describing

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what was happening at that very moment. It's a present tense problem. It's

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not prophetic, all right. So
so I I have to repeat that a

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million times. That's what's going on. But somehow in this discussion about p

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SSAW eighty three, the Arab spring
is going to be mentioned. So I

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just want to drive that point home. That's what it's about, all right

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now. I'm trying my best at
on Sundays in my you know, two

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hours of preaching each Sunday, trying
to demonstrate a way to make it somewhat

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applicable to us. And I think
I've done so at using the text.

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Now the next part of it's going
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going to fall completely apart. But
we will. We will get there when

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we get there, all right,
so what we will see. But in

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the meantime, let's go listen to
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Saw eighty three is not describing anything
future. It's describing what was going on

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at that time. All right.
I don't I almost feel exhausted. But

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let's let's see what happens. Are
you right? Are you ready to hear

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what happens? Now? I just
kind of stop this, like it's right

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in the middle. I think he
just I think what he just finished talking

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about was he was talking about how
Muslims don't you know, Islam doesn't recognize

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Israel, that in some of their
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and they hate Israel, and so
he was saying kind of negative things,

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and he said, well, some
people may be saying to me, you

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better not say that, or they'll
kill you. And he was like,

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well, so what, You'll just
send me to heaven all right, and

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that and I'll be ruling and reigning
with Christ. And so he kind of

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goes in that direction. Okay,
great, wonderful, all right. It's

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kind of weird, like sometimes Christians
will say, well, if they kill

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me, so what, I'll just
go to heaven. And then the next

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minute they're saying, oh wait,
wait, wait, wait, maybe all

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Christians in this building, but we're
going to make sure we have a security

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team with guns because if someone comes
and try to kill us, we're gonna

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take them. Now. Wait,
they would just be sending you to heaven.

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I thought that would be wonderful,
right, Okay, So Christians so

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weird. Like one time it's like
God, nobody can hurt me because God

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is protecting me. But I have
locked doors and guns. Wait a minute,

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Wait a minute, I don't need
any protection because the worst you can

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do is send me to heaven.
But wait a minute, I'm gonna have

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a gun and a locked door.
It's it's sometimes this weird contradiction. But

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let's see where he's gonna go.
I think it's only gonna be like maybe

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quickly. I think he's gonna it's
gonna get weird because, well, at

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least to me, because I think
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What has that got to do with
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Let's see, let's see, maybe
I misheard it. We're getting ready to

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find out. But now many of
their leaders in various lands have stated these

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things. I've just said. That's
not an accusation, that is not just

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a thought or an opinion. That's
what their own leaders have said. Aad

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Henry Morse, doctor Henry Morse,
who's now with the Lord, made this

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statement on this passage in Psalms eighty
three. He said, the prophecy primarily

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applies to the end times, since
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states in verse seventeen, it will
end with these Muslim nations acknowledging Jehovah as

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supreme over the earth. Once again, it's not prophetic, it's describing what's

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going on at that time. And
even when you and even that reading from

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Henry Morris, Okay, let me
go. So starting in thirteen, asaff

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cries out to God, you could
call this in somewhat of inn a precatory

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section, see God, to bring
destruction upon these people, bring judgment upon

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these people. You could argue that
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it doesn't sound like he wants them
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all these things to happen to them. Look at verse sixteen. Fill their

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faces with shame, that they may
seek your name, O Lord, that

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they hey, do this so that
they may seek that you. Obviously they

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have to still be in existence to
seek, right, Okay, So so

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that kind of shows their desire,
which again to me, is not so

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much your preconatory. That sounds more
like a lament. Hey, But in

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a lament you're crying out, Hey, we want you to do something,

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but we really want you to do
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Let them be confounded and dismayed forever. Yes, let them be put to

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shame and perish, that they may
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the Lord, are the most high. This is not prophesying. This is

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saying, Lord, do this so
that this may happen. I don't know

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why everyone keeps saying that this is
a prophecy about some coming Middle East war.

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I don't understand we have. We
have taken this text apart. We've

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gone forward backwards, we've turned it
upside down, we've turned it to the

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left, to the right, we've
we've flipped it over. We've done everything

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and there I and every single time
when we listen to any message about this,

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it's just it's always asserted as a
dogmatic fact. This is a coming

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Middle East war? What are you
talking that? These so so it's a

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coming war with Muslim nations who are
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No, no, no, let's
anybody have Asaf's phone number, because

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if we could call him, I
know we can't, but if we could

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call him, Asaf would be like, what are you talking about? That

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was my lament, That was my
precatory prayer because we were facing us her

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horrible situation at the time of either
in the life of David or maybe the

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beginning of the reign of Solomon somewhere
around that time. But I okay,

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but all right, so now so
it's Muslim nations. Now all sudden,

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Russia is gonna come involved. This
is just watch what happens. Hey think

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about that. The Bible says that's
going to happen. I don't care who

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you are, what kind of a
Christian you say you are, or whoever

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you say you are, how intelligent
you think you are. If God says

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that's what's going to happen, and
he does, that is going to happen.

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Now, that doesn't have to happen
before the rapture, but it can

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take place, and very well it
can take place. There's nothing saying that

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it won't happen before the rapture.
We already see the Russian Coalition prophesiede twenty

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six hundred years ago. Those nations. Now I'm completely confused. It's Muslim

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nations now Russian nation? What now
Russia is involved? When did Russia become

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a Muslim nation? I don't I
don't get this. So now he's going

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to go to a prophecy about Russia. But ASAU eighty three is not about

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Russia, there's no way to make
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he saying there's going to be Is
he saying there's going to be a Russian

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invasion or war and there's going to
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two future wars? Is that the
direction he's going have never been together like

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they seem to be coming together today. And this Ukraine mess and all of

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that that will change when the Tribulation
has the Russian Coalition coming down. You'll

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find that in the Book of Ezekio, chapter thirty eight, we see these

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nations this around Israel, getting consensus
with their Arab spring against Israel. We

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see these Arab nations with a consensus
against Israel in their Arab spring. Okay,

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I'm going to back that up just
a little bit. Okay, I

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want you to hear that exactly.
Okay, here we go. Let's back

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this up. Fourteen southeast thirty sixth
Avenue. Okay, I don't know what

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just happened. All right, let's
see if we can find this here,

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right, I don't know. My
timer thing here is doing weird things.

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We'll find this spot. It may
take me a minute. Just be patient.

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Coming to this earth. Okay,
four wars come to this earth that

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the Bible identifies. Okay, that's
not it. Let's see if we can

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get back a little further here.
If we can get back a little further

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right, let's see if this is
it. Go. Those nations have never

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been together like they seem to be
coming together today, and this Ukraine mess

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and all of that that will change
when the Tribulation has the Russian coalition coming

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down. You'll find that in the
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We see these nations this around Israel
getting consensus with their air spring against Israel

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to actually attack them. And God
told us in Psalms eighty three, three

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thousand years ago that this day was
coming, and he named the people the

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Arabs. He's connecting this to the
Arab Spring. Well, that's first of

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all, that's not today. Let's
do everybody ready to take a little class

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on the Arab Spring. Everybody ready, Okay. Now, I'm not going

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to say by no means am I
an expert on the Arab spring, not

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even close. But I do know
this. At the time of the Arab

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Spring, I was broadcasting in some
ways it almost felt like twenty four hours

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a day around the clock at that
time because I'd kind of fallen into this

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thing that you know, I kind
of do a news program from a Christian

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perspective. It never really was my
intention to kind of turn into what it

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turned into, but it kind of
spiraled out of control and next thing,

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you know, I'm basically not sleeping, and I'm working full time job in

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the military and a full time pastor, and I'm of like a full time

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news broadcaster. Was very detrimental to
me spiritually because I wasn't even focusing really

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on spiritual things. But at that
time, man I was broadcasting and talking

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about the Arab Spring frequently constantly.
All right, so if you don't know,

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the Arab Spring was a series of
pro democracy protests and uprisings that began

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in twenty ten and twenty eleven across
the Middle East and North Africa. Please

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note twenty ten, twenty eleven.
Now he's saying they're coming together in their

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Arab Spring today. Now it's not
today. It was twenty ten, twenty

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eleven, and they were coming together
to attack Israel. Is that what the

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Arab Spring was about. It was
a pro democracy protest. Now, these

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movements challenged and trenched a oritarian regimes
in the region. And here are some

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of the key points. The origins
and trigger the Arab Springs started when protests

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in Tunisian Egypt led to the downfall
of their respective regimes. The spark came

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from the self immolation of a Tunisian
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he was getting upset about these how
he'd been treated. He burns about mistreatment

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by local officials. He burns himself
alive. Self immolation, all right,

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a sacrifice usually by fire if you
want it like a technical definition. All

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right, that kind of sparks all
of this. Now. Inspired by Tunisia

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and Egypt, similar movements emerged in
other Arab countries. People express political and

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economic grievance, demanding greater freedoms,
human rights, and democratic reforms. Please

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note they were demanding greater freedom,
human rights, and democratic reforms. What

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has that got to do with this
Israel? The way he's describing it,

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I don't I don't even understand.
Okay. Now, While some countries saw

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successful regime changes, like Tunisia,
others faced violent crackdowns by security forces.

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Not all movements achieved their goal of
increased democracy and cultural freedom. For instant,

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Libya experience civil war and serious uprising
turned into a prolonged conflict, and

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some read the Arab Spring was a
complex and transformative period with variant outcomes,

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but it highlighted the desire for change
and democratic progress in the region. Please

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note in that entire description looked up
for many, many sources, all compiled

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together. Guess what. Guess what
wasn't mentioned there Israel? That does not

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sound like PSAW eighty three. They
will come together to try to fight against

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authoritarian regimes and to try to find
democratic reform and find personal freedom and human

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rights. That is not what PSAWM
eighty three has to say. There's nothing

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to do with the Arab Spring.
So then I was like, Okay,

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let me do a little research here
because I was like, well, during

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the Arab Spring, how did Israel? How was Israel impacted? So again,

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gathering from a numerous sources, Israel
faced significant challenges and concerns during the

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Arab Spring. There was concern initially
Israel leaders. Israeli leaders worried that the

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uprisings might empower Islamist groups, leading
to instability and potential potential threats to Israel

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security. Hey, if some of
these leaders fall, then there may just

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come a power vacuum in some of
these nations and countries and it could lead

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to a little bit of chaos.
And what will happen While you're fighting for,

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say, democratic reform, you're trying
to fight for human rights. Once

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you topple the government, now you
have a power vacuum. And then these

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groups, many of them will be
Islamic groups that will very much try to

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take over, which will then only
bring back act much more of a you

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know, Islamic Sharia law type government, which then ultimately could be in play

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negatively for Israel. And I discussed
all of this at that time, all

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the potential concerns. Now the impact
was more like this. The Arab Spring

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did lead to systemic changes in the
Middle East, but and some of them

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were negative. We cannot deny that. For example, the Muslim Brotherhood gained

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power in Egypt, and Jahadis groups
emerged in Syria, ISRAELI. Israel's relationship

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with some Arab nations worsened. So
there was some negative things that happened,

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But there wasn't like this confederacy of
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None of this is PSAW eighty three. But here's what's interesting in hindsight,

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if you look back now, Israel
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die dynamics shifted and Israel's security interests
were actually better preserved before well it was

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all said and done. Now we
ultimately know what happened on October seventh,

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but ultimately from the Arab Spring there
was there was actually things improved for a

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period of time. So when we
talk about the Arab Spring, it's more

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it's better to understand. It's a
complex story. But the headlines today tell

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a different tell than a decade ago. In other words, when we kind

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of look back, we we can
kind of look at it now and get

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a better understanding of it. At
the time, yeah, there was grave

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concern. Wait a minute, Okay, I know, I know we're saying

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these people want democracy, and maybe
they do, but they may end up

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with unintended consequences. You get rid
of that leader. Who's gonna take its

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place? Is it going to be
the Muslim Brotherhood? Is it gonna is

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gonna be other Jihadis groups? Okay, we all. I discussed all of

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that. It felt like every day
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No, and I would be like, okay, now we have protests in

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this country. All right, everyone
pull out their maps, mark this place.

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Oh we have another protest here.
Now here's what you need to know.

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As if they topple that governmental leader. Here are the groups that will

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try to take power within that country, and then I would name the groups.

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It would be the Muslim brotherhood or
this group or this Jahadish group,

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and we try to discuss it.
Now. If that happens, now you

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see where Israel could be in trouble. There was lots of discussions about that,

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but it did not play out anyway. Definitely did not play out the

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way he just described. And the
main thing I want to say, none

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of the thing that happened in the
air of Spring sounds like this. All

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right, okay, none of this
sounds like this. Are you ready?

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PSAWM eighty three. Do not keep
silent, Oh God, do not hold

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your peace, and do not be
still, Oh God, For behold,

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your enemies make a tumult, and
those who hate you have lifted up their

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heads. They have taken crafty counsel
against you, I guess your people,

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and consulted together against your sheltered ones. They have said, come, let

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us cut them off from being a
nation, that the name of Israel may

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be remembered no more. For they
have consulted together with one consent, they

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form a confederacy. Against you.
That is not the Arab Spring. That

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has nothing to do with the Arab
Spring. All right, I'm gonna pack

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it up and we can finish this
up. Now. I know some of

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you like, well, you're just
making a big deal out of it.

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I'm not. It's a big deal
because I don't. Look, you can

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people can be wrong. All Look, you can have forget opinions. You

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can have your own alternative facts about
what happened in the Arab Spring. You

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can write your own story about it. Okay, right, fine, But

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here's the thing. Leave Psaw eighty
three out of it. That is my

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issue. Okay, I'm gonna back
this up a little further. Let's see

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hopefully this isn't messed up here we
go pure no for you that have been

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listening maybe following the last few days
on this, as I said, okay,

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it's weird. Every time I back
it up, it does this weird

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stuff. Or let's see if we
can get right back to where we were.

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Hopefully this is it day and this
Ukraine mess and all of that that

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will change when the Tribulation has the
Russian Coalition coming down. You'll find that

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in the Book of Ezekiel, chapter
thirty eight. We see these nations this

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around Israel getting consensus with their Arab
Spring against Israel to actually attack them.

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And God told us in Psalms eighty
three, three thousand years ago that this

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day what's coming, and he named
the people, he named the land,

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and it's beginning to come to pass. Psalm eighty three was not predicting the

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Arab spring in twenty ten and twenty
eleven. Now what happened in twenty ten

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and eleven, and the Arab Spring
has nothing to do with whatever you think

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is starting to happen in twenty twenty
four. Now you're seeing it, the

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Arab spring. We'll now we're in
twenty twenty four. And now you're saying

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psaalw eighty three is prophescing what is
happening now. No, psaw MANI three

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was describing what was happening then at
the time of ACEF. Now there are

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four wars coming to this earth.
Okay, four wars come to this earth

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that the Bible identifies for us.
There may be many more wars, but

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the Bible speaks of four of these
wars. And someone please write these down,

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all right, because look, this
is worth see. Even though I

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may be strongly frustrated and strongly disagreeing
with, especially with the Arab spring thing

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that just drove drove me. And
that's when I heard it. I haven't

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heard this part yet because I stopped
it with the Arab spring stuff, knowing

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I had to talk about it,
all right, But here's what I want

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you to do. He's gonna name. He says, there's four wars.

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There may be more, but there's
four specific wars that are coming. Four

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we want to write down and see
if we can. And we may want

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to make this like we may this
may end up turning into, you know,

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another series where we where we look
at these four possible wars and see

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if they are. If he's thinkings
three it is one of those wars,

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we can go ahead and throw that
one out. Because Saw eighty three is

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describing what happened, then it is
not prophetic. There's been no textual proof

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even hinted at to show me that
this is a prophetic psalm, and not

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either in a precatory prayer about what
was happening at the time or a communal

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lament about what was happening at the
time. But let's get these four wars

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now, I'm fascinated on this part
right. See, this is why we

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listen to different sermons. We may
disagree with a good portion of it,

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but we still may be then challenged
to consider something that we've never considered before.

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I think I know one of those
wars. Maybe I don't. Let's

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see. I think maybe I know
where he's going. But let's see where

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he's going to go. And I'm
going to go from fourth to first when

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I do this. So be listening
next time when we start right here now

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for you that have been listening maybe
following the last few days on this.

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As I said, I did this
series back in twenty eleven with much,

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much, much research, checking things
from around the world, ladies and gentlemen,

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I think we just figured out what
happened. The reason he has mentioned

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the Arab spring so many times he's
using his notes from two thousand and eleven.

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Now, Lead. I have stated
this over and over and over for

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any pastor, for any preacher,
your old notes are useless and the present

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you should burn your notes past notes
used in the present, bring your past

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mistakes into the present. The only
way to get rid of those past mistakes

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and correct those past mistakes is to
never use your notes from the past,

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but always start over, always start
brand new. The reason he's mentioning the

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Arab Spring that way is because he
was doing this in two thousand and eleven.

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Well, I'm sorry, it's twenty
twenty four. You know, the

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Arab Spring did not lead to anything
that you even hinted at or mentioned.

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None of that happened, and made
sure that there were no contradictions with the

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word of God. But what I
want you to see is, as I

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said three thousand years ago, we
see these things being prophesied. We see

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things coming to pass that God prophesied
long ago. My friend, are you

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ready to meet the Lord? Can
you give me a Bible reason why you

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know that if you died today that
Heaven would be your home. This is

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your radio pastor, pastor, and
all right, well, well you know

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what we need to do. Class. We have a new assignment for our

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Psalm eighty three. Ladies and gentlemen. You need to go find this series

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on Psalm eighty three, and you
need to start in part twenty seven.

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You need to listen to twenty seven, nine thirty and thirty one. I

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told you to go back to the
beginning and listen to all of it right

487
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now, just forget that start in
twenty seven, and we need to find

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out the four wars. He's going
to start with number four, go to

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three, go to two, and
go to one. We need to find

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any scripture reference he gives. We
need to outline what are the four wars,

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what are the scripture references, and
then we're going to have to then

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take each one basically as a hypothesis. He's hypothesizing that this is the fourth

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war, this is the third,
this is the second, this is the

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first, and then we will test
those hypotheses and see if we can either

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confirm or deny, because if there's
four coming wars, we want to know

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not only what those wars are,
what to look out for those wars and

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when may they occur? All right, I think that's good now, So

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here let me give you the information. So what you need to do is

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you need to look for Central Baptist
Church, Central Baptist Church speaker's doctor Andy

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Bloom, and you need to find
his series on Psalm eighty three. You

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need to look for part twenty.
You need to download if you can either

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download it if you need to listen
to it, offline or you can just

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stream it part twenty seven, twenty
eight, twenty nine, thirty and thirty

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one. Now, if he covers
those four before you get to thirty one,

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great, But considering the way he's
done this, it may go all

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the way to part thirty one.
We need to identify what the four wars

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are, We need to identify everything
he says about them. Just kind of

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consider that what he's saying is his
hypotheses. Okay, who is the war

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with? When is the war supposed
to occur? What should we be looking

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for? What nations are involved?
And what scriptures clearly outline it. That's

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kind of what we need. Who
where like the who, what where when

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how kind of concept and the scripture? The who what, where, when

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00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:53.000
how? And the scripture that's kind
of what we need to do. Then

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we will Then what we will do
is we may then break this off because

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I don't think it SAW eighty three
has anything to do with any of that.

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Right, I'm just gonna I'm just
gonna forget that he's even now if

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he says SAW eighty three is one
of the coming wars, We're going to

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just ignore that. We're going to
just go ahead and say that we've done

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enough work that we can already disregard
that hypothesis. But I will listen to

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any argument that he puts forth because
I got no problem. I've already come

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on here once and kind of basically
said I was wrong, maybe that it

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isn't a preparatory sum. Now that
i've I'm kind of going back and forth,

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but I got no problem coming back
going no, I was wrong.

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It is prophetic and it is a
future war. So we'll see how he

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explains it. But now we got
to Now we got a challenge in front

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of us. I just wanted to
talk about the Arab Spring because I don't

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want other Christians having a very confused
perspective. But I now understand why his

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perspective was a little flawed because he's
basing it off what was going on in

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twenty eleven. He's using his old
nodes instead of taking five seconds to do

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a little research, going, well, how did that all turn out?

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How did the Arab spring actually turn
out? Well, not the way you

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were discs And I guarantee you this. It obviously wasn't SSAW eighty three.

533
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So either the Arab Spring was PSAW
eighty three, or the Arab Spring had

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nothing to do with p SAW eighty
three, because now we're in twenty twenty

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four. Now he's saying, well, now now we're seeing it come together.

536
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:17.920
Well, I thought you were saying
it was we were seeing it coming

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together in twenty eleven. Now it's
coming together in twenty twenty four. Well,

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then it has nothing then disconnected from
the Arab Spring. But he says

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there's four coming wars. There could
be more, but there's at least four.

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The who, what, where?
When? How? That's your job,

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00:41:35.639 --> 00:41:40.039
that's our job. We're never gonna
well, but we're going to separate

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00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:44.320
these four wars out of PSAWM eighty
three. So anything he connects to Samiti

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three, we're just going to disregard
unless something happens. And I changed my

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00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:52.599
mind. All right, Now,
if you're convinced this PSAW eighty three is

545
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prophetic, well then by all means
you can you can argue your hypotheses.

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00:41:57.559 --> 00:42:00.639
I'm willing to listen to it.
But this point I'm just getting confused.

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So now we can kind of understand
why he's mentioned the Arab Spring multiple times,

548
00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:10.000
Because it was twenty eleven, there
was all this stuff happening in the

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Middle East, and he decided that
saw Mati three prophesied it didn't quite work

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out. So now we're in twenty
twenty four, and now Samiti three is

551
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prophesying what's going on today because the
twenty eleven thing didn't work out for you,

552
00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:28.440
I mean, and now because of
what happened in Gaza and what's going

553
00:42:28.519 --> 00:42:32.239
on in Gaza Okay, the Palestinians, all of the you know, Hamas

554
00:42:32.360 --> 00:42:37.880
and all of the different things.
Now, see, every time something happens

555
00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:42.119
over there, people want to start
saying, well, a fulfillment of a

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00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:45.639
prophecy. Well, and then nothing
happened. Done, Well, nothing happens

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00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:49.400
until we just wait till the next
time. That's what it feels like.

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But who knows. I don't know
where it's going to ultimately go, but

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I am interested. So please look
it up. If you cannot find it,

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email me NEWSI fitt Yahoo dot com. News I f at yahoo dot

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00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:05.199
com. So your weekend is going
to be filled with Psalm eighty three.

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00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:08.039
What No, Actually, it's going
to be filled with four coming wars.

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Right somewhere in your house. You
should have a big white board and you

564
00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:15.840
should have your whole family there saying
all right, ladies, here's the four

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00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:19.559
wars? Who, what, where? When? How? In the scripture

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reference. All right, I know
your kids are going to be like,

567
00:43:23.320 --> 00:43:27.039
do what I No, we're not
doing that. Okay, right, but

568
00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:30.719
probably everybody in your family would say
stop listening to that stupid podcast. But

569
00:43:31.239 --> 00:43:35.599
all right, there you go,
there's your assignment. What I have to

570
00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:38.000
do is not allow this to distract
me from what I need to do,

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00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:42.199
which is actually work on Saw Maity
three. So now I'm gonna want to

572
00:43:42.239 --> 00:43:45.039
go to church on Sunday and go
and we're going to look at four wars

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that have nothing to do with saw
Maity three while we're in the middle of

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00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:50.880
Saw eighty three. Yeah. I
can't do that, but I'm going to

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00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:53.480
be very tempted to do that.
All right, We'll see. All right,

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ladies and gentlemen, thanks for listening. You can email me news i

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F at yahoo dot com. That's
news letter, i F News i F

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India Frank News i F at yahoo
dot com. Everyone have a great day.

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God bless h