Psalm 83: A Coming War? Pt 2

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Looking at our world from a theological
perspective. This is the Theology Central podcast

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making Theology Central. Good afternoon everyone. It is Friday, June the fourteenth,

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twenty twenty four. It is currently
five point thirty six pm Central Time,

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and I am coming to you live
from the Theology Central studio located right

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here in Abilene, Texas. Now, originally it was not labeled Part one.

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Originally it was just labeled Psalm eighty
three coming war question mark, Psalm

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eighty three a coming war or coming
war question mark. It was not labeled

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Part one, right, it wasn't. The original goal was just to say,

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hey, when I was driving around
yesterday, I heard this message on

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the sermon's two point oh app let's
listen to it together, and then that

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would be it. That would kind
of bey this. It would introduce you

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to this series because we were listening
to audio of a church doing a series

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on Psalm eighty three. They refer
to this as the coming Middle East War,

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the war in the Middle East,
and I'm like, okay, so

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I can tell everyone about it.
It's really going to just inform people.

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We'll offer a little bit of critique
and analysis. It'll be interesting it'll be

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quick. It'll be like, I
don't know, twenty thirty minute broadcast.

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It'll be over quickly, and then
I'll just move on with my day.

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Well, it turned into a sixty
three sixty four minute long broadcast, and

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well that part one, well it
wasn't a part one, but I had

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to label it part one because then
I knew I've got to do a part

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two. But then I thought,
you know what, I won't really do

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a part two. I'll just leave
that one Psalm eighty three a coming war

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question mark, and then I'll just
start like maybe I don't know Psalm eighty

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three Part one, Psalm eighty three
Part two, or or Psalm eighty three

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something I don't s eighty three the
Summer to You of God. I don't

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know what I was going to do. But then I thought, but I

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can I just forget what we did
in that first one, because that first

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one ended abruptly right the audio we
were reviewing. It's a fifteen minute program,

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a fifteen minute broadcast, and it
just kind of cut off, and

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I'm like, well, do I
just I know I told everyone to go

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listen to it, but I know
I'm gonna have to listen a part two.

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So if I'm going to listen to
part two, well, then let

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me just get a broadcast in and
let's just listen to part two. Now.

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My fear is, well, then
I'm going to want to listen to

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part three. Remember there's eleven parts
in this series that I introduced everyone too,

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but I don't want to review all
eleven parts. So there's a danger,

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like if I do this to part
two, now, am I going

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to have to do a part three? I don't know. I don't know.

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And it's interesting because there's only eighteen
verses and in a roundabout way,

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at least they feel like they covered
nine vers is in about five minutes,

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and I'm not so. I don't
is in part two are they going to

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go back and really cover those nine
verses or are they just going to move

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forward? And how do they get
all the way to eleven parts? I've

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got so many questions, but I'm
like, we've got what do I do?

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So I've been here debating, debating, debating, Well, obviously here

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I am so. And if you
look now, if you look on your

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church one app or the sermon's two
point oh app, it now says part

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one and if you look on all
the other podcasting apps, they may take

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a while for the RSS feed to
update. They say Part one, because

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I realize, well, I've got
to do this. I've got to go

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back to this. So let me
just give you the basic information. Yesterday,

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driving around and a car, I
was listening to all kinds of content

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and sermons on the Sermon's two point
oh app because well, this, this

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entire year is the Sermon's two point
oh app Challenge. I've challenged you to

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download the Sermon's two point oh app
from the Apple App Store the Google Play

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Store and start choosing a sermon every
single day as random as possible. And

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then I have been coming along off
like, hey, let's focus on this

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topic, or look up sermons on
this verse, or whatever the case may

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be, to try to, you
know, add variety to what we are

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doing. So yesterday, while I
was driving around, I stumbled upon a

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series on Psalm eighty three. Each
one is entitled Psalm eighty three The Coming

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Middle East War, Part one,
Part two, Part three, four,

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five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten eleven. We've found

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out that this is really a radio
broadcast that's about fifteen minutes long that they're

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uploading those episodes to the sermons two
point oh app I believe there's an RSS

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feed attached, so we'll just call
it they've turned it into a podcast,

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even though they don't use that word. If there's an RSS feed attached,

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it's connected to a podcast. All
right. This is from Central Baptist Church.

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And I told everyone to go download
all eleven parts. If you haven't

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downloaded all eleven, please go download
it and please listen to them, please,

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please, please please. There was
a lot of things. I gave

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a lot of praise for a lot
of compliments, a lot of things.

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I am still a little baffled with
their approach to the text, mainly their

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title, because if I read Ssaw
eighty three, I don't think the coming

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Middle East war. When I read
Psalm eighty three, I'm like, wow,

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Israel was facing like a you know, a group of people coming against

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them. This a group of people
coming against them, and the psalmist is

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is praying to God to step in
and to intervene. So this would be

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more like the prayer for God's intervention, God's intervention in the midst of war.

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I don't but not something about the
coming war. This is all talking

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about something going on. Then it's
you know, like, yeah, we

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could just go through it all.
And so I'm just baffled by why they

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gave it that title. After listening
to their part one, we were never

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given really a reason why it's called
the Coming Middle East War, because even

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from the the author's perspective of PSAW
eighty three, the human author's perspective,

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something was already going on, something
already had happened and was happening. Even

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in the Saw eighty three, it's
not saying, hey lord, this is

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going to happen. It's like this
has happened. So even from that perspective,

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it's it's confusing. So when when
I start getting confused and I'm just

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trying to look at something, you
know what I do, I started handing

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out really assignment. So I told
everyone read PSAW eighty three, what title

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would you give it? And then
I'm like, well, he mentions this

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interesting thing starting, and I'm reading
now from the New King James, The

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King James and Psalm eighty three.
I don't like the way it begins.

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It throws me off. But PSAW
eighty three, if we jump down,

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well, let's just read let's start
reading from I'm gonna read from the New

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King James. We'll just start in
verse one. We'll just put this back

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together. Psalm eighty three, starting
a verse one, do not keep silent,

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Oh God, do not keep silent, Oh God. You can hear

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the psalmist pleading with God. God, don't remain silent, as if God

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had been silent, and a lot
of bad things is going on. The

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King James puts it, keep not
thou silence, keep not thou silence.

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It's just so, it doesn't It
doesn't flow well for me. I don't

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know. It just feels weird even
sing it. I want to say,

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keep not thy silence, but keep
not thou silence. That just reads weird

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to me. Maybe it's just something
in my mind. It just reads weird.

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But the same concept, keep not
thou silence, hold not thy peace,

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and be not still, Oh God, the psawmist is saying, you

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know, as as it reads in
the New King James, do not keep

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silent, Oh God, do not
hold your peace be and do not be

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still. Oh God. We need
I need God. I need you to

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I need you to act, I
need you to move because something is going

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on. He goes on to say
verse two, this is the sawmist praying

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to God for behold your enemies.
Now that's fascinating. The psawmist perceives that

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these people are God's enemies. Right, So that's okay. We could get

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into a discussion there, right,
For behold your enemies make a tumult,

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and those who hate you have lifted
up their head. Hey, God,

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your enemies are are causing trouble.
They're active, They're doing something. I

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need you to meet their action.
I need you to meet they're noise.

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We need you to speak up.
And what have they done? They speaking

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of these enemies, they have taken
crafty counsel against your people. Now I

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think the issue is are the way
the Samis is approaching this is that these

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people, these enemies are coming against
Israel. Israel is God's people based off

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a covenant relationship. All right.
They have taken crafty counsel against your people

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and consulted together against your sheltered ones. And they have said, come,

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let us cut them off from being
a nation that the name of Visual may

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be remembered no more. Now this
is not I don't believe this is anyway

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saying of something that's going to happen. The Psalms is saying, this is

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going on right now. God,
I need you to act now now if

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if they're going to connect to some
future prophecy, I would love to know

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on the basis of what. Maybe
it's there right now, we're just working

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through it in real time, so
maybe it's there. Remember, you know

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how I like to approach it as
if whether I know or don't know,

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I always approach it as if I
don't know, because I like to get

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you involved, right, So all
right, so we see how it's written

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then verse five, For they have
consulted together with one consent, they form

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a confederacy against you, the tints
of Edom and the Ishamaelites, the Moab

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and the hag Rights. Now it's
written a little differently in the King James,

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I said the hag rights. I
think in the King James they call

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they are called the Hagarens. All
right, But the hag Rights gibbel ammon

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Amelek Felistia with the inhabitants of tire
Assyria also has joined with them. They

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have helped the children of Lot.
So Lord, all of these people have

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come together. This doesn't I don't
again, I don't see this as pointing

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forward. This is happening now.
That's why the Sawmis is crying to God.

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Now again, if you're going to
say this is a a prophecy,

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I wouldn't. I don't know.
I don't know what you would base that

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off of. All right, but
okay, so God's like, hey,

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So the Sawmist is like, God, we need you to do something.

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Please, please wake up, do
something right, because your enemies are active,

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and your enemies have come together against
us Israel. They don't want us

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to no anger be a nation.
So then he gets specifically what he wants

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them to do. Lord, deal
with them, Deal with these enemies,

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as with Midian, as with Cesarea, Ceserah, as with Jabin at the

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brook of Kishon, who perished at
indore who became as refuged on the earth.

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Make the nobles like Oreb and like
zeb Yes, all their princes,

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like Zeba and Zalmuna, who said, let us take for ourselves the pastures

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of God for a possession. So
what basically the Psalmist does here is Lord,

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and this current situation act as you
have in the past. And he

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mentioned specific groups where God has done
something specific situations where God had intervened.

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Now you can read about some of
these situations, mainly in the Book of

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Judges. Mainly in the Book of
Judges is where you can find the references.

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Now I want to go. What
I wanted to do is possibly go

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to each one, and maybe I'll
do that on Sunday. But I still

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want to challenge you. Most of
those places and their defeat is mentioned in

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the Book of Judges, and you
can see how God intervened, and He's

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like, deal with the current threat
in the same way. Deal with them,

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as with Midian, as with cesare
Ces sesa Era. How would you

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say it. I want to say, cisarea, But okay, but Sis

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sis Era, as with Jabin at
the brook of Kishon, who perished an

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Indoor, who became as refuge on
the earth. Make their nobles like Arab

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and like zeb Yes, all the
princes, like Zeba and Zalmuna, who

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said, let us take for ourselves
the pastures of God for a possession.

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Hey, these very specific people.
Go after this, do to do to

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the current situation what you've done to
these people. And then you can look

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up those references, and again I
think all of them, I could be

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wrong, but I think every single
one of them is in the Book of

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Judges. I think every single one. And just do realize that in the

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there's a difference between the new King
James and the King James and how some

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of them are listed, or maybe
the testing major. But in the King

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James we have for they have consulted
together. He mentions them, do unto

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them as unto the Midianite. Sorry, that's just right, Cessera, as

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to Jabon and the brook of Kishan
which she's perished into. Okay, all

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of them are the same. There, all of them are the same.

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There's the only one I guess is
really different is in verse six, and

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that's only just nothing major. Just
keep that in mind, right, So

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hey, do to them, do
in the current situation what you've done in

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the past. Right, That makes
perfect sense. Then verse thirteen, Oh

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my God, make them like the
whirling dust, like the chaff before for

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the wind, as the fire burns
the woods, as the flame sets the

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mountains on fire. So pursue them
with your tempest, frighten them with your

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storm, fill their faces with shame
that they may seek your name, O

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Lord. Now, he specifically wants
them to do God wants to act.

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For God to act in the present
as he had in the past, then

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it really lays out some very specific
things he wants God to do. But

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notice this, I do love this
part. Do all of these things that

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they may seek your name, O
Lord, Act so that these individuals may

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seek your name. Oh Lord,
I think there's something. I think there's

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probably a very powerful lesson there.
Let them be confounded and dismayed forever.

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Yes, let them be put to
shame and perish, that they may know

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that you, that they may know
that you, whose name alone is the

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Lord, are the most high over
all the earth. Let this happen so

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that they all may know that you
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God, intervene so that everyone will
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the earth, that you are sovereign, that you are Lord, that you

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are the Ruler. I think maybe
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three sixteen to eighteen. Psalm eighty
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I'm starting to get. That's where
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now, I'm still interested in looking
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God deal with the Midianites, well
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God deal with these these different locations? They're all written about in Judges,

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So we need do we need all
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basic summary? How important? The
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know what this the sawmist was praying
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about the past and the present,
not the only future part is when will

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God do these things to the enemies
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Is this a situation where we're going
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prayer and p SSAW eighty three and
the answer to this prayer will happen in

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the future. Is that how we
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But let's go to part two from
Central Baptist Church SAW eighty three The

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Coming Middle Eastward Part two. Please
go download their entire series. Look,

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whether we agree or disagree, they've
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I've provided an outline and part one
I can give the outline again. There's

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more here that we can think about, we can consider. I know,

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we just kind of work, we're
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time, but we will we will
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I know that's already seventeen minutes,
but okay, I still think to

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me, yeah, and knowing what
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are these peoples in the past that
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sixteen, seventeen and eighteen. But
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to handle the chapter. But let's
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their intro. We're just going right
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now. You pray, and you
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to pray against somebody? Well,
the first thing that you do pray,

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whether it's for a nation or another
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and get right with God. Get
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James, Bible, the Way of
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But if they won't do that,
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pray that they'll be soundly defeated and
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say you mean to kill every one
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that, taken out of existence is
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evil way and all that they're doing, because eventually, when people follow that,

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they end up in hell. It's
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Lord remove them. Why because we
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taken in by these wicked ways.
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right and don't know that it's wicked. Now he goes on that verse says,

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which perished at ondoor. You know, when I see that word ondoor

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in the Bible, I think of
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the way they do this. They
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you know, the music, the
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comes right in from picking up where
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up a little bit in the last
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offer a spoken like, okay,
this is where we ended in the last

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broadcast. Now we're going to pick
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verse. So he picked it up
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against your enemies. Maybe there is
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still don't really understand anything about Psalm
eighty three and and I know I kept

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saying, giving you all kinds of
different ways of pronouncing it. Look what

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I did, Look what I did? All right, hang on, let

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me go find this all right?
Listen, listen? Are you ready?

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Okay? Listen? Asuel also has
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children of lot Cela. Do you
want to them? Is undo the Midia

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Nights. As to Cicera, Cicarah, there we go, Cicarah, there

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we go. I don't know what
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I think did he see it differently
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Maybe we did, all right,
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two, I thought he would at
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our last episode we were doing this, this, this, this, this,

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So we're gonna back it up a
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like. There's none of that.
It's just kind of jumps. It's very

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abrupt. So we could have a
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I'm gonna write that down, right, how should we pray for or against

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our enemies? Now, I'm gonna
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just listen to me. The reason
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now, is because I still want
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to so Many three is it's referring
to a coming war. There's there's still

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no explanation to how this is about
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perplexed there. So I still want
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don't want to get sidetracked on how
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when I'm still trying to figure out
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Right, I'm still trying to figure
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still trying to figure out that.
So I'm yeah, so let's see what

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they do. Let's see if they
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bring all this together somehow. He
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find out what's going to happen next, and he found out and the next

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day he was dead. So I
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it's fascinating that when he reads about
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he goes to what happened with Saul
and the Witch, but he doesn't talk

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about deal with them as with the
Midians. He doesn't talk what God did

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with the Midianites and Judges Cicera.
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and the Book of Judges. I
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he doesn't talk. He only references
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does that have anything to do with
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I I'm so like the one reference
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anything to do with the actual hecks, the actual context here are helping us

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understand it. When you go away
from God's way, God's will, doing

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God's will, God's way in God's
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then my friend, you're looking at
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and perhaps even death, as did
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don't fall into those sins. So
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for the earth. Now think of
those nations he's talking about here in this

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tenth of verse. They became dung
for the earth. Now, trying not

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to be too graphic, I'm just
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a cole pasture, there are certain
piles of things that you don't want to

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step in the apostle. Paul said
that he counted all the things that the

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world would have said, Man,
look at him, he's rich, he's

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got this, he has that.
And they would have said all those good

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things that saw God. His name
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salvation, and the apostle after he
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those things that the world thinks is
gayten great, he says, he counted

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them, but dung. That was
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Pope, that's just fascinating. How
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here to Philippians just simply because the
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the Psaumus is asking God to deal
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that are conspiring against them, that
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God, this confederacy, deal with
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Okay, that's the cross reference we
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them Midianites the Book of Judges as
with Cicerah. Yeah, and oh and

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and let that guy who does the
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what did he do with them?
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What happened there? I believe it's
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at Indoor, right. So now
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The key is to go back and
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Who became as refuse or dung on
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need to see how God intervened there, because that's exactly what the Psalmist is

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asking for. I don't know how
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do cross cross reference by it.
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let's look up all the places that
word is used. No, look

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up all the places that word is
used. What has some context to what's

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going on? Okay, there's got
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lot of people view things of this
world and they want to bring it into

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the church, and basically what they're
doing is bringing done into church. There

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have been men that have made millions
off their rock music. They've made millions

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off their psychology and the books they
write on psychology and philosophy and things of

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that nature. But all they've done
is ruined lives. They've how does rock

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music and psychology show up in a
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Ciera, Jabin brook A, Kisheon
and indoor understand. I don't understand.

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I don't understand. I don't understand. I don't understand. Okay, blasphing

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God by using, for an example, the rock and roll music, nostrobe,

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lights, and things of that nature
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well, we are putting good words
to it, We're putting God's words

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to it. No, it's not
God's words. It's just a word or

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two from the Bible that they put
into it. But really they're not delivering

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the message of righteousness and true holiness, which is what God commands. In

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Ephesians chapter four, verses twenty two
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turn to righteousness and true holiness.
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man. We find out that you
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tells us verses fourteen through seventeen,
to passion to yourself. Passion is mean

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to emulate yourself to something. I
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From Psalm eighty three, simply because
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to Philippians and next thing you know, it's rock music, strobe light psychology.

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What I and I still know is
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Middle East is that the coming wark
is that the coming Middle East War that

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I so don't try to fashion yourself
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the former things. I remember.
I grew up in the fifties and

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sixties, so I remember seeing when
the miniskirt came out, and ladies weren't

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wearing miniskirts to church, but their
addresses started getting shorter. Okay, Psalm

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eighty three, and now we're talking
when the mini skirt came out. I'm

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not understanding here. If the title
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the thesis, even though it has
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Psalm eighty three is speaking about a
coming war in the Middle East. That

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doesn't appear to be what this is
about. Now, this is about I

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I'm not so, I don't understand, So I don't want to belabor this

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point. But I'm gonna let this
play out because it can only it's probably

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only a couple more minutes. I'm
gonna at least let this play out.

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Then we can just set this to
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go listen to the rest. I
still want you to go listen to the

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rest, because and I will listen
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don't think I'm going to continue to
use more of this to review, because

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this has at least got us to
SAW eighty three. It's done its job.

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It's got us to SAW eighty three. The only reason I'm doing part

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two is because I thought maybe part
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like, Okay, this is how
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called it the coming Middle East War. Then, the only reason I'm listening

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to this is I thought that this
would get us there. It's I don't

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really understand where we're I don't even
understand where we are anymore. Okay,

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so we've kind of left the road. So I'm going to at least let

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him go. He can take us
down off the road, and then it'll

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be my job to say, we're
gonna set that aside now. Now SAW

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eighty three has been handed to us. Now it's your job and my job

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to then do some some some serious
work on SSAW maighty three and try to

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understand exactly what we can gain from
it, all right, and I'll give

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you some cross references to work on, because I mean the first part of

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the first Well, we'll get back
to Psaw eighty three in a minute,

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and we'll we'll we'll throw out it
again. Well, we'll we'll repeat,

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we'll be a little repetitive, but
will be repetitive to try to keep us

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on track. All right, So
here we go and shorter. Sometimes the

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tops are getting lower and lower.
Now, lady, let me tell you,

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if you're a lady listening, if
you're dressing in a way that stirs

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the luss of a man, then
you are at the same level as a

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harlot. You're drawing men to you
and say I don't agree with that,

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pastor, Well, you don't have
to agree with it, but it is

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the truth. You see, some
ladies will wear a low cut dress low

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cut. That sure is putting the
responsibility. I don't I don't even know

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why. A part of me doesn't
want to comment on this because it has

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nothing to do with p. Eighty
three. That's sure, he's putting the

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responsibility on the women. Hey,
a woman, if you if you do

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something to basically cause a man of
lust. You're you're dressing like a Harlot.

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Well wait a minute, who whoa
whoa whoah woah, Wait a minute,

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isn't it the man's fault. Isn't
it the man's fault? Now you

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could argue, you could argue that
a woman may want to try to do

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what she can to be helpful.
But I mean, I mean we can.

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I mean, we need a whole
discussion discussion how lust works and where

406
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lust arises from, and and we
could get into a lot of discussion and

407
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we could say what can be helpful
not helpful, but it really I mean,

408
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yeah, I mean that gets it. I mean I don't do we

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want to get into all of that. I just think sometimes church has always

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put the responsibility on the one,
Hey, you're addressing to cause lust.

411
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Or maybe it's just the man's fault
for looking and thinking and allowing lust to

412
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you know, Like I think the
famous quote, I don't know if it's

413
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actually from Luther. I think it's
often attributed to Luther. You cannot stop

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a bird from flying over your head. You can stop it from building a

415
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nest in your hair. Hey,
the bird's gonna fly over your head.

416
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You can't stop that. Right,
There's going to always be some kind of

417
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lust, some there's always going to
be internal issues because we have a sinful

418
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nature, and all of those things
arise. Adultery, lust, it arises

419
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from inside of us, not externally. It's already inside of us. Now

420
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you can say with these things,
feed it or spark it, but you're

421
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putting the responsibility on the woman instead
of putting the responsibility on the on the

422
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man. Right now, a man
may say, please help me out,

423
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Please help me out here, I
need some assistance, right, okay,

424
00:33:55.680 --> 00:33:59.880
But then we just got to acknowledge
our own weakness and our own friend.

425
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:01.960
It's not don't put the blame on
the woman. We've got to put the

426
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:06.039
blame on us. Right. But
again, I don't even know why we're

427
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having this discussion. We're supposed to
be figuring out Psaw eighty three. But

428
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blaust and it shows very little bit. It'll show something. If it shows

429
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one hundredth of your body that only
your husband should see, then lady,

430
00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:30.079
you're dressed like a harlot and you
need to get it right. You know,

431
00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:39.199
we read in Proverbs that there is
that dress that pertains to a harlot.

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We read in the Book of Ezekiel. This is the most like from

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a hermeneutical standpoint, I am baffled. We're in Psalm eighty three and now

434
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we're going after the attire of a
harlet. What what do you think it

435
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:05.079
means? The attire of a harlot, the dress of a harlot. I

436
00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:07.960
think it's mentioned in proverbs. What
do you think that means? Do you

437
00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:10.639
think it means immodest or do you
think harlot's worth something to let everyone know

438
00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:15.639
that they were a harlot? Is
it because of the immodesty or was it

439
00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:19.480
because of the decoration or the coloring? Or I mean, I don't know,

440
00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:22.679
do you know? I mean,
pastors just assume, Hey, it's

441
00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:25.960
this. And if you if you
show one whatever, the smallest amount of

442
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what only your husband should see.
How much can a woman show before she's

443
00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:36.039
showing more than she like? Where? Where is that line exactly? And

444
00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:37.880
why again, we're putting the responsibility
on the woman, not the man,

445
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:44.440
Okay, And and it does the
same thing is the man should be just

446
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discovered as a woman so that he
does not show anything that would only be

447
00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:54.000
for his wife. So should man
wear just nothing but anywhere they time they

448
00:35:54.079 --> 00:36:01.760
leave the house, long sleeve shirts, pants, never wear shorts. Is

449
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:06.239
that is that? I mean,
if it's if one, if it's good

450
00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:14.239
for one, it's got to be
good for the other, right right,

451
00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:21.599
I mean, but I don't even
know what we're supposed to be on saw

452
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Maty three. As you get there
in the middle of the book, there

453
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around chapter sixteen, you'll you'll see
it talks about the harlot and the woman

454
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that just gives herself other words,
it seems to list the harlot as not

455
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as bad as the other woman,
and the harlot is doing it because she's

456
00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:47.119
trying to earn a living. But
the woman that just gives herself to other

457
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men, that has relationships with other
men, has those sexual relationships, she

458
00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:55.639
is considered by the Bible by God, not me, saying it is God

459
00:36:57.599 --> 00:37:04.519
that she is lower than the harlot. She's worse. Back in Old England,

460
00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:09.519
there was a word that was used
to describe dirtyness. For an example,

461
00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:15.599
this person didn't keep themselves clean.
This is a person that was bad

462
00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:21.079
in various things of their dealings every
day. And so because it had an

463
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:27.679
idea of filth and yep, kind
of an idea, and so the word,

464
00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:30.639
the term slut began. It was
not a curse word of any kind.

465
00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:37.480
It was just a word that described
filthiness, just like what the word

466
00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:42.960
harlot would describe a filthiness in morals. Well, that's what a slut was

467
00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:54.119
considered from those that terminology. Oh
wow, this is a series on Psalm

468
00:37:54.239 --> 00:37:59.360
eighty three, and now we're talking
about the origins of a word that I'm

469
00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:04.599
not going to currently say on air. I'm not going to currently say that

470
00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:20.880
word. Uh okay, I don't
even know what to say. Let's just

471
00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:27.000
continue that just gave themselves to other
men. And by the way, men

472
00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:31.159
can be that too, because it's
as wrong for them to commit adultery as

473
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it is for the woman. It's
just as deep down, low down evil.

474
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And so that is just some things. And you say you shouldn't talk

475
00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:44.400
like that. You're on the radio, Well, yes, we're on the

476
00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:46.719
radio telling the people the truth.
We're trying to rescue people from the sin,

477
00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:52.119
not to give them an okay to
continue in sin, because one day

478
00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:54.719
we'll all appear before the judgment seed
of Christ to receive the things which we

479
00:38:54.800 --> 00:39:00.559
have done according to that which we've
done, whether it be good or bad.

480
00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:06.679
We find out in First Corinthians chapter
four that the hidden things of darkness

481
00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:09.400
will be revealed in that day,
and it's talking about Christians. You realize

482
00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:15.920
that fourth chapter First Quintin's is addressed
to Christians and the hidden things of darkness

483
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:19.039
in their life. Oh, they're
doing this on the side, they're doing

484
00:39:19.079 --> 00:39:22.280
that on the side. And it
might be drugs, it might be lotto

485
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:28.039
gambling, it might be having a
somebody that's running around with doing things they

486
00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:32.480
shouldn't be doing things that are sin. And my friend, the hidden things

487
00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:40.239
of darkness will be revealed. I
remember, look, I can't even look.

488
00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:44.760
I can't get into any of these
things because this is about supposed to

489
00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:54.840
be about Psalm eighty three, right, So okay, well we could we

490
00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:59.360
could have a long discussion there.
Obviously, there's just basic theological questions.

491
00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:02.880
So you come to Christ, you
confess your sins to Christ. He's faithful

492
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:07.079
and just to forgive us our sins
and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

493
00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:08.800
So all of our sins are going
to be forgiven because of the blood of

494
00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:13.280
Jesus Christ, that we are declared
to be perfect and righteous and holy in

495
00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:15.960
Christ positionally, But we're gonna get
to heaven and God's gonna be like,

496
00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:19.559
hey, everyone, come around.
Look here this person was doing abced and

497
00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:22.400
gonna reveal it to everyone. Meaning
then my sins are not really forgiven in

498
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:32.559
Christ because He's going to bring them
up, So there's no point really confessing

499
00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:36.679
them or anything. I guess maybe
it be forgetting they're forgiven, but God's

500
00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:38.760
still going to bring them up to
bring about the greatest amoudy of humiliation and

501
00:40:38.840 --> 00:40:43.639
shame he can for you. Like
I oh, there's so many questions about

502
00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:50.840
that. In counseling with a couple, one time I told them, I

503
00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:57.840
said, look, you've ran around. You've ran around, but your children

504
00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:00.760
don't know it, and it would
be good for children not to know it.

505
00:41:02.519 --> 00:41:07.239
But if you don't get your life
right with God, if you don't

506
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:10.880
get those things right with the people
that you sinned with, then those hidden

507
00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:15.920
things of darkness will be revealed in
heaven. Then if your children are saved

508
00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:22.159
and they're there, they are going
to hear everything because your pride kept you

509
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:24.880
from making things right with God and
with those that you were in sin with.

510
00:41:25.320 --> 00:41:31.639
Are those that you wronged so you
have to there's steps you have to

511
00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:37.840
take to keep God from mentioning them, mentioning them when you get to heaven.

512
00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:39.920
If you don't take the correct steps, you're gonna get to heaven.

513
00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:44.840
God's gonna be like, all right, everyone, it's story time. I've

514
00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:51.079
got a good one today. Next
up is Bob from California. Bob in

515
00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:55.800
California did not make the following things
right. Bob from California was a porn

516
00:41:55.880 --> 00:42:01.800
addict. Bob from California held great
grudges against his mother in law and at

517
00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:06.000
times probably wanted her to die.
Is like, is that how it's going

518
00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:07.000
to be? I'm not trying to
make fun of it, but is that

519
00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:13.559
the way it's going to go down? Or when he says make it right

520
00:42:13.639 --> 00:42:15.599
with God? If you're a Christian, have you in a sense not made

521
00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:19.480
it right with God? You put
your faith in Jesus Christ. Your sins

522
00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:21.880
have been removed as far as the
east is from the west, they have

523
00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:24.360
been covered by the blood of Christ. Christ has paid for all of those

524
00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:29.639
sins on the cross. He propitiated
the wrath of God on your behalf.

525
00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:35.440
And what does any of this have
to do with saw eighty three. So

526
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:39.320
again we're just trying to teach the
word as it is to men as they

527
00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:45.239
are, but without making an apology
for it, because there's no reason to

528
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:52.880
apologize for the truth that God gives
us teaching the word as it is.

529
00:42:53.159 --> 00:42:58.079
I gave I applaud. I think
that that's a great concept they came up

530
00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:02.440
with. My issue is is this
is not teaching Psalm eighty three as it

531
00:43:02.559 --> 00:43:08.079
is. None of this is in
Psau eighty three. Literally, none of

532
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:16.039
this is in Psaw eighty three,
like literally none of it, none of

533
00:43:16.119 --> 00:43:17.960
it. Okay, all right,
all right, let's let's find we got

534
00:43:19.079 --> 00:43:22.480
at least let this finish, because
because now this helps us, because now

535
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:24.480
we can say, okay, we
listened to part one apart two. There

536
00:43:24.599 --> 00:43:30.039
was no clear thesis given, there
was no hypotheses given. So we don't

537
00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:31.400
really have to try to fix that, right, We don't have to.

538
00:43:31.559 --> 00:43:35.280
We don't have to either. We
can't challenge it, we can't test it,

539
00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:37.280
we can't do anything with it.
But they but they the good thing

540
00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:40.320
is they gave us Saw eighty three, So we're gonna take the good from

541
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:43.719
it, and then we will run
with that. And we're gonna be working

542
00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:46.079
on SAW eighty three for I don't
even know how long, because I love

543
00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:51.440
to let this things just develop organically. Here, I'm just I'm just baffled

544
00:43:51.519 --> 00:44:00.360
by I just don't look and I
and and and I know because before someone

545
00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:02.480
emails me and criticizes me, all
right, So let me just go ahead

546
00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:06.679
and get this out of the way. I understand they have a radio program.

547
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:09.960
I understand they have a church that
has a studio. I understand that

548
00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:15.800
that church has more people than I
have ever ministered to, probably in my

549
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:20.519
entire life. They have more resources, more money, more recognition. They

550
00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:23.679
are more respected than I will ever
be. For me, I am a

551
00:44:24.559 --> 00:44:29.800
failure in every way possible. So
for those you want to go ahead and

552
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:32.559
tell me my failure, I understand
I'm a failure in every way possible.

553
00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:37.480
I have failed and thought word indeed, by why I've done, by why

554
00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:40.199
I've left undone, I have been
a failure in ministry. And I know

555
00:44:40.360 --> 00:44:44.920
that I'm a nobody who just trying
to figure this out. So this is

556
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:50.880
not about criticizing them. This is
about I'm just baffled how all this came

557
00:44:50.920 --> 00:44:53.719
from PSAW eighty three. And you
can criticize me all day for being baffled

558
00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:57.039
by it, but I'm baffled by
it. I can't help that. Now.

559
00:44:57.239 --> 00:45:00.880
What I'm going to do is I'm
not here then to I told you

560
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.920
to go listen to them, subscribe
to them, listen to everything I am

561
00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:07.159
by no means telling you not to
listen to them. What I'm doing now

562
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:08.800
is gonna say, Okay, thank
you so very much. You gave me

563
00:45:08.920 --> 00:45:13.679
Saw eighty three. Now let us
run with it, and we will figure

564
00:45:13.719 --> 00:45:15.679
it out. We will figure it
out. We will, we will,

565
00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:22.079
we will take it from here,
create our own kind of thesis hypotheses about

566
00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:24.880
Saw eighty three, try to come
up with an interpretation, understanding the historical

567
00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:29.519
context, and then trying to figure
out what is the main lesson of Saw

568
00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:31.760
eighty three. And we're gonna change
our title, and we're not gonna leave

569
00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:36.239
our titles Saw maybe three, the
Coming Middle East War. We're gonna change

570
00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:38.159
it to something else. And then
we're gonna work on a title, and

571
00:45:38.199 --> 00:45:40.800
we're gonna we're gonna, we're gonna
bet before this is over. This is

572
00:45:40.880 --> 00:45:45.440
not gonna be about criticism. This
is gonna be about taking it and making

573
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:49.800
it positive. What I want everyone
to learn that lesson. You say,

574
00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:52.039
well, I was listening to sermons
and I don't like this one. I

575
00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:54.519
don't like this one. Stop focusing
on what you don't like. Take the

576
00:45:54.639 --> 00:46:00.719
sermon and do something with it.
You will the the responsibility to get something

577
00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:05.840
from a sermon. Most of it
lies with you. Right. Look,

578
00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:07.440
I can sit here and go,
man, I don't know what that was.

579
00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:10.519
Next. No, No, I'm
not here to do that. I'm

580
00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:14.079
here to go Okay, Well,
I don't get this. I don't understand

581
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:16.199
this. I don't I'm perplexed by
how they got here. But you know

582
00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:21.719
what, that's irrelevant. That's irrelevant
to this entire discussion. Great, that's

583
00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:24.760
how they wanted to hit to handle
saw maighty three. Clearly the a lot

584
00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:29.280
of people love the way they handled
it. A lot of people loved it,

585
00:46:29.559 --> 00:46:32.920
and they they get support and they're
wonderful. Great. Fine, Next,

586
00:46:34.199 --> 00:46:37.840
I'm already over that. Let's move
on. Like I'm I'm not worried

587
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:42.000
about what they do or didn't do. Now it's up to us. Now

588
00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:45.400
I have a responsibility to say,
Okay, so what do we do with

589
00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:49.039
saw maty three? What do we
do? So we're gonna work on Saw

590
00:46:49.119 --> 00:46:52.719
eighty three. We're gonna work on
it, and we're gonna get We're gonna

591
00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:57.239
take something that maybe I disagree with
and turn it into something positive. So

592
00:46:57.559 --> 00:47:01.599
this doesn't just become a criticism,
becomes all right, you put forth your

593
00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:07.360
hypotheses. Thank you. Oh well, I don't even know if they put

594
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:10.039
fourth throw they put forth their approach
to Saw eighty three. Let's state it

595
00:47:10.119 --> 00:47:13.679
that way, all right, thank
you. We're going to approach it in

596
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:15.320
a different way. So that's what
we're gonna do. So let's let this

597
00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:25.039
finish up. And so here we
see in verse eleven, make their nobles

598
00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:37.400
as Orb. Now make them like
Orb and like z read Zeb and all

599
00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:49.559
there princes as Zeba and as Zelmuna. And verse twelve says who said,

600
00:47:50.280 --> 00:47:58.639
let us take to ourselves the houses
of God in possession, people into attack

601
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:00.519
Israel and take all they had.
They want to take the houses of God

602
00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:06.599
and anything that would worship the true
and Living God. They wanted to work

603
00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:09.159
against God. It's just like,
do you have a government now that all

604
00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:14.599
of a sudden they're wanting to shut
down churches. They're want in churches not

605
00:48:14.719 --> 00:48:17.039
to have church services. At certain
times, in certain days and certain things.

606
00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:28.280
I found it interesting that are you
talking during the pandemic? Are you

607
00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:31.760
talking during the Every time I hear
this argument about, well, they tried

608
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to shut down churches. Oh,
in many cases they just limited the number

609
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of people who could attend. But
guess what, they didn't limit the number

610
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of services one could have. So
if you had a thousand people, just

611
00:48:44.320 --> 00:48:46.760
have services Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday,

612
00:48:46.920 --> 00:48:51.880
go to a seven day week situation
and just limit the number of people

613
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in and then follow any of the
rules. And not only that, you

614
00:48:54.719 --> 00:48:59.840
could have been broadcasting from your sanctuary
twenty four hours a day, seven days

615
00:48:59.840 --> 00:49:07.679
a week. But okay, hey, but all right, okay, the

616
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:15.760
covid epidemic that there were in states
where they were closing down churches for being

617
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open, when those people were worshiping, as the Bible called them, on

618
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that day Sunday, which was the
first day of the week, which is

619
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the day of the Lord's resurrection.
Every Sunday, my friend, is a

620
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celebration and a worship of our risen
Lord and Savior, for that is the

621
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day that he rose from the dead. Is on a Sunday. But they

622
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were trying to close churches down.
And yet in the same communities, the

623
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very same communities, they would not
close down strip houses, They would not

624
00:49:52.719 --> 00:50:00.480
close down some beer joints. Oh, so you're gonna give me some specific

625
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:05.519
situations, because I when the pandemic
was going how does this have anything to

626
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do with PSA eighty three? Okay? But when when this was going on,

627
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I kept hearing a lot of these
claims. So then I would go

628
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and look and go, well,
wait a minute, all right, and

629
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maybe in some cases try to call
the places or research the place. Well,

630
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this place is open, but they
got like fifty restrictions. What are

631
00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:23.199
you talking about? Or well,
like, well they're telling the church they

632
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can't do this, but they they
have Walmart is open. What do you

633
00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:29.920
want the grocery stores to be closed
down? Is that really what you're calling

634
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:34.719
for? In many cases, you
could you could have been doing. And

635
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I kept saying it, Look,
we may you may have to take a

636
00:50:37.719 --> 00:50:40.800
stand at some point. I got
no problem if you think you have to

637
00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:44.599
take a stand. But in many
cases you could have. You could have

638
00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:49.320
gone above and beyond the restrictions that
were placing on you and worked around it,

639
00:50:49.440 --> 00:50:52.920
and you could have had more church. You could have had more services,

640
00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:57.000
you could have done more, you
could have broadcasted more, you could

641
00:50:57.039 --> 00:51:00.199
have done more podcasting, you could
have done a million things. You said,

642
00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:04.079
well, well they won't let this
many people in, we'll just have

643
00:51:04.320 --> 00:51:08.840
more services. Just space them out
and limit the number of people who come

644
00:51:08.920 --> 00:51:14.400
in. There's a million things you
could just think outside the box instead of

645
00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:23.559
just throwing a fet and other things
because they said those are needs. Okay,

646
00:51:23.760 --> 00:51:31.239
so strip houses are needs. Oh
my friend, That again is what

647
00:51:31.400 --> 00:51:37.599
they were doing in the Bible,
as to say hey, we can do

648
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:40.159
this, we can do that.
People over there a bunch of legalists.

649
00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:45.400
If I can preach on alcohol one
Sunday in my church, and I've done

650
00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:49.800
that on several occasions, and there's
a Christian out there that drinks social drinking,

651
00:51:50.519 --> 00:51:53.320
they'll call us legalists and walk out. And we've been called legalists for

652
00:51:53.559 --> 00:51:58.360
various things, for having some standards
that are holy and righteous and all that.

653
00:51:59.039 --> 00:52:04.960
But look, they say legless about
that thing. But yet there are

654
00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:08.440
other things that they would be against. For an example, if I said,

655
00:52:08.920 --> 00:52:13.000
hey, listen, I need to
make some money, so I'm going

656
00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:16.519
to take your three or four children
and sell them to a trafficker because I

657
00:52:16.639 --> 00:52:22.559
need money. This is your radio
pastor, pastor Andy Bloom saying yeah,

658
00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:29.239
I don't okay, all right,
so we're done with that, all right.

659
00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:31.599
I'm not gonna offer any more criticism
or anything like. That's great.

660
00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:36.320
They presented Psaw eighty three to us, So thank you very much for presenting

661
00:52:36.320 --> 00:52:39.320
Saw eighty three to us. I
don't really understand your approach to Psalm eighty

662
00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:42.679
three, but that's fine. That's
okay. Everyone can go listen to the

663
00:52:42.760 --> 00:52:45.199
rest. I want everyone to go
listen to the rest. Now it's up

664
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:46.960
to us to do something with Saw
eighty three. So that's going to be

665
00:52:47.039 --> 00:52:51.599
our focus from this point forward.
It's gonna be we're just gonna turn this

666
00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:54.159
into Psaw eighty three and move forward. I'll do moving forward. I'll do

667
00:52:54.239 --> 00:52:58.719
a little bit of backing up.
I'll try to offer an outline. I'll

668
00:52:58.719 --> 00:53:00.719
try to offer some things. But
to get back to the part where we

669
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:04.800
spent a little bit of time focusing
on. So if you remember, so,

670
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a number of these nations come against
Israel. They consult together a confederacy.

671
00:53:09.440 --> 00:53:14.480
Those nations are mentioned in verse six, the tensive Itom, the Ishmaelites,

672
00:53:15.079 --> 00:53:22.679
the hag Rights giebel Amon, Amlek
Felicitia, and the inhabitants of tire

673
00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:25.840
Assyria also joined with them. They
have helped the children of Lot, right,

674
00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:30.800
Okay, so there we have so
there we have the nations coming against

675
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them. You can look up each
one. You can get a basic idea

676
00:53:32.760 --> 00:53:36.320
of who they are. All right, then Sila, all right, think

677
00:53:36.360 --> 00:53:40.239
about here's their problem, this great
confederacy of nations, or I won't say

678
00:53:40.280 --> 00:53:45.360
great, this confederacy of nations coming
against Israel. They don't want Israel to

679
00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:47.480
exist anymore. Okay, good,
that's what's going on. All right.

680
00:53:47.559 --> 00:53:51.280
Now, We're not good that that's
happening, but good that we can understand

681
00:53:51.320 --> 00:53:54.079
that. That's simple, straightforward,
all right. So then the Saumus Praise.

682
00:53:54.760 --> 00:54:00.039
Deal with them, this confederacy of
nations. Deal with them as you

683
00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:05.480
did with the Midianites or with midian
Now you can read about what God did

684
00:54:05.559 --> 00:54:07.559
with the Midianites if you would like. You can read about that. The

685
00:54:07.639 --> 00:54:13.400
Midianites were one of the enemies mentioned
in Psaw eighty three and Judges chapter six

686
00:54:13.519 --> 00:54:16.320
through eight. We see the account
of how God delivered the Israelites from the

687
00:54:16.360 --> 00:54:20.239
oppression of the Midianites. You can
look at Judges six through eight if you

688
00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:23.000
need cross referencing. If you need
cross referencing, Okay, So there's the

689
00:54:23.079 --> 00:54:30.199
Midianites, asssa Our Cicera. Cicera
was the commander of the Canaanite army who

690
00:54:30.239 --> 00:54:35.360
oppressed the Israelites, and Judges chapter
four through five we read about how God

691
00:54:35.599 --> 00:54:40.239
orchestrated the defeat of Csera. There're
Cserah all right, as with Jabin at

692
00:54:40.280 --> 00:54:46.239
the brook Kishron. Jabin was the
king of Hazor who allied with Cicera against

693
00:54:46.280 --> 00:54:51.239
the Israelites. And Joshua eleven.
We learned about how Joshua led the Israelites

694
00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:55.199
to defeat Jabin and his forces.
So there we go. There's another cross

695
00:54:55.239 --> 00:54:59.599
reference. Right, these are things
you need to know because this shows you

696
00:54:59.639 --> 00:55:01.760
how God dealt with them in the
past. All right, Now, how

697
00:55:01.880 --> 00:55:06.159
much of that information do you need
to do you stop and go look at

698
00:55:06.199 --> 00:55:09.920
each one of those accounts. We
could probably debate on hermoneutically or or at

699
00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:14.719
least from a preaching perspective. How
much do we go back and look at

700
00:55:14.760 --> 00:55:17.719
all of them? Right? So
there's probably some ways we could find some

701
00:55:17.800 --> 00:55:20.840
summaries on each one of them.
All right, but there you go.

702
00:55:21.039 --> 00:55:23.840
All right, then who perished at
Endoor? All right, well we won't

703
00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:30.599
get into that. Orb Orb and
zeb Orb and zeb these two leaders of

704
00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:35.800
the Midianite army were defeated by Gideon
and the Israelites and judges seven verse twenty

705
00:55:36.000 --> 00:55:40.599
five. All right, I think
that now there's probably a couple more here

706
00:55:40.679 --> 00:55:44.840
you could look up. Those are
the cross references we need. So you

707
00:55:44.960 --> 00:55:46.719
want to cross reference that. And
all you really want to do is just

708
00:55:46.760 --> 00:55:51.440
be able to summarize and like a
sentence, this is what God did against

709
00:55:51.480 --> 00:55:53.079
this group and this group in this
group. This is what the sawmus and

710
00:55:53.079 --> 00:55:58.559
Psaw eighty three is praying that God
will do in the present against this confederacy

711
00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:04.000
of nation that wants Israel to stop
existing. Okay, so there we go.

712
00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:07.480
Then he gets very I want you
to do what you've done. But

713
00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:12.480
then he goes on in ads in
verse thirteen, fourteen and fifteen these things

714
00:56:12.519 --> 00:56:19.880
that he wants to happen to them
specifically. Right then sixteen seventeen and eighteen

715
00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:27.320
is I think where the real spiritual
food is sixteen seventeen and eighteen is where

716
00:56:27.360 --> 00:56:30.400
I think the real spiritual food is. So I'm not going to say anymore

717
00:56:30.400 --> 00:56:32.880
because we're at fifty six minutes.
Again. I thought this is going to

718
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be quick, but I I there
we go. I don't know what to

719
00:56:39.320 --> 00:56:42.360
make of it. I don't know
what. I don't know what to do.

720
00:56:42.840 --> 00:56:45.239
How did this happen? I don't
know. I don't know. I

721
00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:49.039
don't know. I don't know.
And just remember again when I do this,

722
00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:52.239
I don't listen to these things before. Right, I had no idea

723
00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:54.840
what was going to happen in part
two. I was really hoping Part two

724
00:56:55.280 --> 00:57:00.079
would kind of explain why this is
called becoming Middle East war. Now,

725
00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:01.679
maybe we have to listen to part
three four, five, six, seven,

726
00:57:01.800 --> 00:57:05.840
eight, nine, ten eleven to
find out. If you find out

727
00:57:05.880 --> 00:57:09.079
before me, email me immediately.
Newsif at yahoo dot com, that's the

728
00:57:09.159 --> 00:57:15.639
news. If at yahoo dot com
before we can find out. But what's

729
00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:22.679
amazing about that? And this is
not even a criticism. This is just

730
00:57:22.800 --> 00:57:25.679
a fact, and this is something
we can try to process the way he

731
00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:30.679
handled PSAWM eighty three. There,
I'm baffled by it. I'm completely confused.

732
00:57:31.920 --> 00:57:40.639
Guess what they have an actual ministry
that's probably bringing in far more money,

733
00:57:40.800 --> 00:57:45.119
have far more resources, they have
far more support. They probably are

734
00:57:45.159 --> 00:57:50.519
making much a greater impact than I
will ever make. So I don't understand

735
00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:52.679
it. But there's plenty of people
out there who like that kind of preaching.

736
00:57:53.119 --> 00:57:55.400
They love that. They would have
walked out of there going man that

737
00:57:55.559 --> 00:58:01.360
was convicting, Praise God. That
was awesome. I will never be able

738
00:58:01.400 --> 00:58:06.079
to understand why some people love that
kind of preaching. I don't get it,

739
00:58:06.599 --> 00:58:08.960
because, like I, you don't
understand anything from Psalm eighty three.

740
00:58:10.199 --> 00:58:14.159
But that's okay. If that's what
people want, that's great. I'm glad

741
00:58:14.199 --> 00:58:16.880
it's out there that can make people
happy. But for me, I just

742
00:58:16.960 --> 00:58:22.880
don't understand it. I'm baffled by
it. I gotta understand the chapter.

743
00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:27.039
Now. What they've done for me
is that now have set me now to

744
00:58:27.119 --> 00:58:30.239
be obsessed until I get some answers
about Psalm eighty three because well, now

745
00:58:30.320 --> 00:58:36.039
they've presented it to me, and
so I'm grateful for that. But that's

746
00:58:36.119 --> 00:58:37.400
what a lot of people like,
That's what a lot of people think preaching

747
00:58:37.559 --> 00:58:39.960
is. That's what a lot of
people love. A lot of people want

748
00:58:40.079 --> 00:58:44.440
that what I do, they loathe
and they hate it. Now I'm not

749
00:58:44.559 --> 00:58:47.440
saying I'm right and they're wrong.
I'm not even going there. But I'm

750
00:58:47.679 --> 00:58:58.719
just a little perplexed sometimes about what
people actually want. So we need a

751
00:58:58.840 --> 00:59:01.440
title for Psalm eighty three. We
need a title. We need to figure

752
00:59:01.480 --> 00:59:05.239
out when he says do unto these
nations? So exactly what happened? What

753
00:59:05.360 --> 00:59:07.119
is he referring to? How much
of that information do we need? And

754
00:59:07.199 --> 00:59:10.119
then I think the last part,
those last three verses asaw maighty three,

755
00:59:10.440 --> 00:59:14.760
that's where we really need. That's
where we're going to get our spiritual food,

756
00:59:14.920 --> 00:59:17.800
and we need to try to figure
that out. All right, we've

757
00:59:17.840 --> 00:59:23.039
got another hour on this. That's
two hours today. We've spent two hours.

758
00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:30.079
All right, I got my We
will get to that question. How

759
00:59:30.119 --> 00:59:37.280
should we pray for or against our
enemies? We will have to get to

760
00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:40.440
that. I guess maybe Psalm eighty
three does present a challenge there, does

761
00:59:40.519 --> 00:59:45.239
it not? Maybe that would be
that would be applicable, that would be

762
00:59:45.239 --> 00:59:49.719
an applicable question to us. But
I don't think we can really approach that

763
00:59:49.880 --> 00:59:58.519
yet. I don't know. All
Right, you can email me news if

764
00:59:58.559 --> 01:00:02.719
at Yahoo dot com, that's news. If Yahoo dot com news, I

765
01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:07.360
f yeahoo dot com. Please look
up that series, download each one.

766
01:00:07.400 --> 01:00:10.880
I'm begging you because we I do
want to know if at some point they

767
01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:15.320
offer why they're calling it the coming
Middle East War. I'm still baffled.

768
01:00:15.360 --> 01:00:19.559
I'm perplexed by that. I just
don't because and I and I'm not saying

769
01:00:19.599 --> 01:00:23.440
this sarcastically. Look if there's if
there's some passage they're connecting this to,

770
01:00:24.159 --> 01:00:30.119
like, if there is some passage
prophetic passage, and they're connecting Psalm eighty

771
01:00:30.159 --> 01:00:32.800
three to it, and I'm not
thinking about it, then by all means

772
01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:37.719
I need to know that so that
we can we can look at that perspective.

773
01:00:37.880 --> 01:00:43.639
I just I'm just confused at this
point that I don't know how I

774
01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:46.320
don't. I mean, it goes
eleven parts. There's got to be at

775
01:00:46.360 --> 01:00:50.000
some point. I mean, he's
gonna be done with the chapter and what

776
01:00:50.159 --> 01:00:53.280
too, maybe two more episodes,
so there's got to be then he's gonna

777
01:00:53.280 --> 01:00:59.960
take it somewhere else. So I
am fascinated by that. So I will

778
01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:02.079
keep listening. I just don't think
I'm gonna I'm just gonna keep listening and

779
01:01:02.159 --> 01:01:05.760
then if I find something, then
I will. But if you listen ahead

780
01:01:05.800 --> 01:01:07.320
of me, let me know,
because we do want to find out why

781
01:01:07.480 --> 01:01:10.760
we don't want to act like we've
got that figured out because I don't.

782
01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:15.920
Maybe you do, but I don't. I don't mean. Maybe there's some

783
01:01:15.079 --> 01:01:21.159
passors Saw eighty three is connected to
that is very prophetic, and then I've

784
01:01:21.239 --> 01:01:24.519
got to then I got to work
out the connection in my mind. All

785
01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:29.039
right, But there we go.
Newsif at Yahoo dot com, that's news.

786
01:01:29.239 --> 01:01:31.719
If at Yahoo dot com. Everyone
have a great Friday evening. God bless