Sept. 8, 2024

Parable of the Sower: A New Interpretation Pt 1

Parable of the Sower: A New Interpretation Pt 1

We work on building a new interpretation of the Parable of the Sower.

We work on building a new interpretation of the Parable of the Sower.

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All right, if you have a Bible, the Gospel of

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Mark chapter four, Gospel of Mark chapter four, tell me, amen,

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when you're there, Mark chapter four. We're gonna start with

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reading one verse, and then all the problems began. All right,

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Mark chapter four, Mark chapter four. We're gonna be looking

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at verse thirteen. Mark chapter four, Verse thirteen. We read

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these words. This is Jesus speaking, and he said to them,

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do you not understand this parable? How then will you

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understand all the parables? All right, I'm gonna read that again.

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I'm reading from the New King James. And he said,

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unto them, do you not un understand this parable? How

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then will you understand all the parables? Meaning, or at

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least one of the possible meanings of this verse is

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that if you can't understand the parable he just gave,

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then you can't understand any of the others. Now, what

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parable is Jesus referring to? There? Well, if you go

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back to starting in verse three, you'll see the parable

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he's referring to. And what parable is it? Yeah, the sower,

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the seed, and the soil right, soil's plural, right, the

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different grounds. It's typically references the parable of the Sower.

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So we if we cannot understand the parable of the sower,

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ladies and gentlemen, we can't understand any of the other parables. Well,

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I got bad news for you. Nobody understands the parable

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of the Sower because and here's the reason I know,

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is because no one agrees basically on any element of

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the parable. There is literally no agreement. And so that

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is troubling because then that would mean if nobody can

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agree on it, then that means no one can truly

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understand it. And if no one can any truly understand

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this parable, then what's the implication? We can't understand any

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of the parables? So that should bother us, and it

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should make us really committed to trying to do what

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understand the parable of the Sower. So that is what

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we're going to attempt to do today. All right. I

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think it's probably gonna end up taking two hours, and

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I don't even know if we're going to be able

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to finish it in two hours, but we're gonna be

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working on it. But let me take you on. Let's

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take the journey on how I ended up at this parable.

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If you haven't been listening to the podcast, you won't know,

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So I'm let me help you all figure out how

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I got there. For some weird reason, this Bible that

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I'm holding in my hand, the KJV Study Bible from Holman,

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It was sitting on that back table and somehow I

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ended up in my bag and ended up at my house.

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All right. Now, for me, if I see a book anywhere,

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if I see a book in the church, if I

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see a book at my house, if I look at

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the book and my mind immediately says, hmm, this is

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what my mind will immediately think, what have I done

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with that book? Have I taken extensive notes on that book?

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Have I read that book more than once? Have I

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turned that book into a sermon? Have I turned it

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into a podcast? And if I can't answer the affirmative,

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then I get bothered because I'm like, well, I've got

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to get as much out of that book as I

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possibly can, right, I've got to get as much out

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of either. I need a notebook filled with notes. I

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need something. So I saw the Homean Study Bible for

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some reason at the house, and I was like, what

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have I done with this study Bible? Have I used it? I?

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Do I have any notes on it? I'm like, well,

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I've got to do something with it, because well, that's

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how I am with any book. If I see a book,

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I've got to have done something with it. So I

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open it up and I started looking and I'm like, oh,

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here's an article on how to read and study the Bible. Okay, well,

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I love teaching Bible study methods. Let me grab this

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and I'll know what I'll do. I'll just work through

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this article on the podcast so that can turn it

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into a mini podcast series. This is simple, this is easy,

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this will be fun. I'll be able to say, well,

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here's their principles of Bible study. Here are my principles

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of Bible study. Maybe I'll learn from that one. Maybe

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I can develop a new Bible study method. This would

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just be a fun, easy time, right. So I read

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the first like little section. Okay, it's a little bit

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too much about like listening to God kind of thing.

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All right, all right, why spend time in the Bible.

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It's God's word, Okay, all right, no major issue. Then

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I get to the next section and the next section

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is entitled begin with the Heart, Begin with the Heart,

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And immediately I was like, I got a problem because

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to me my philosophy. When it comes to Bible study,

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you do not begin with your heart. You begin with

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your brain. You've got to learn, as we've even saw

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an Augustine's view of studying the Bible. Augustine said, we

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learned to study the Bible when when we learn how

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to read right. So you've got to begin with your mind,

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reading comprehension, things about the definition of words, the meaning

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of words, how words are connected together, context s intext

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all of the original languages. You've got to know hermeneutical principles,

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interpretive principles. You start with your mind, that's my philosophy.

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But start with your heart. Now, as soon as I

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saw begin with your heart, I'm like, however, I do

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know this preaching that if you want to be a

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good Bible student, if you want to understand your Bible,

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begin with your mind does not sound near as spiritual

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as begin with your heart, right, which one preaches, better

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begin with your heart, right, Hey, it's the condition of

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your heart that matters. Right. It doesn't matter how much

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you study, it doesn't matter how much you read. If

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your heart is not right, it won't be of any value.

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That preaches good. Everyone will say amen, and people will

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say I was so convicted by that pastor thank you.

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But sometimes the things that sound good and preaching are

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sometimes the most foolish, illogical things on the face of

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the earth. But I was not prepared for what I

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was about to read, So begin with the heart. Immediately

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I was like, I'm going to say, begin with your mind.

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Here's the words you're ready. In the Parable of the Seeds,

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that's how and soils, right, that's how they define it.

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In the Parable of the Seed and the Soils Mark

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Chapter four, verses three through twenty, Jesus used a word

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picture to describe the different levels of receptivity people have

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towards God's word, and then he goes on and kind

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of describes the parable. Basically, the argument is this, you

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can read your Bible, you can listen to sermons, you

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can study your Bible, and it will do absolutely nothing

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for you. It will be of no value unless the

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heart is right. First. Now, I could say that in

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almost any church, and everyone's sitting in the pew would

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say what amen. I would be the one sitting in

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the back of the church raising my hand, going uh,

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this is illogical, and let me try to explain if

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I have to get my heart right before the Bible

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is in of any value, don't we also argue that

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it's the Bible which helps transform the heart. Well, how

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can the Bible transform the heart if the heart has

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to be right before the Bible can transform anything? That

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makes absolutely no sense. Does everyone there understand what I'm saying.

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It's just like it's broken, right. So I was like,

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this can't make any sense. So I was like, well,

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maybe it's just me because I sometimes find a problem

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where maybe other people don't see a problem. So I

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even asked artificial intelligence and artificial intelligence. It was like,

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this is like circular reasoning. It's illogical. This doesn't make

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any sense. You can't say you've got to get your

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heart right for the Bible to have any effect, but

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the Bible is the thing that gets the heart right.

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That makes no sense. Well I'm like, well, I'm glad

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AI understands it makes no sense. But obviously Christians don't

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get that. So I was like, well, I've got to

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figure this parable out, right, So I started trying to

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work out. I started to trying this, trying that, trying

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to figure it out. Then I started reviewing sermons, which

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has been one of the worst experiences in the history

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of mankind. The three sermons that I have reviewed so

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far have been insane maddening. All right, So when you

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come to the parable, let's just work through a couple

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of things out. Go ahead and go to mark chapter four.

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I'll just start showing you where some of the disagreements

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are right. First of all, so does everyone see that

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if you have to get your heart right before the

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Bibles of any value, then once you get if who

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gets the heart right, then do I get the heart right?

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And if I'm getting the heart right, am I doing

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it apart from the Bible? So then what value is

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the Bible? If I already have my heart right before

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I can It's just the whole thing makes no sense.

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So that's already problem number one. Problem number two is

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nobody agrees on anything. For example, listen, behold a sower

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went out to sew. All right. Now, when we say

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he went out to sow, how do we typically interpret

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what that seed is that he is sewing. Well, if

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you go down to the interpretation of the parable, which

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begins where fourteen the sower sows the word, would you

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be surprised to know nobody agrees. And what the word represents.

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You would think the word represents what the Bible. Well,

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there's disagreement. Some say it's the Bible. Some say it's

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the word there represents basically the message of when Jesus

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came and started preaching. What did he preach about the

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Kingdom of God is at hand? It's the message about

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the kingdom. Others say the word there represents the Gospel.

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It's just the gospel. Some say it represents the entirety

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of God's written revelation. So there's not even agreement there,

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all right, So everybody already realized there's not an agreement

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even there. But now let's continue reading. And it happened

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as he sawed that some seed fell by the wayside,

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and the birds of the air came and devoured it.

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much earth, and immediately it sprang up because it had

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no depth of earth. But when the sun was up,

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it was scorched, and because it had no root, it

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withered away. And some seed fell among the thorns, and

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the thorns grew up and choked it out and yielded

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no crop. But the other seed fell on good ground

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and yielded a crop. And they sprang up and a

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crease and produced some thirtyfold, some sixty and some one hundred.

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All right, Now, typically what does everyone say the soils

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represent the heart? All right? Okay, the heart? All right? Now,

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here's the thing if we say it represents the heart,

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and here's where Now the next major disagreement is, okay,

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this represents the heart or different kinds of people. Correct?

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So who out of those different soils, how many different

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soils are there? Go ahead and count them. We got

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the wayside, We got the stony places. Is how it's

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referred to. Is that that's the second one. Then the

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third one is with the thorns, and then the fourth

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one is the good ground. Is that fair to say?

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Is that a easy side? All right? Out of those four,

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how many of those people are saved? Oh, this is

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the next big debate. Okay, Well, when all the sermons

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that we've reviewed, this is how they've gone. Some say

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only one is saved the last. Others say two of

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them are saved. Some say everyone is saying right so,

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some so so. And then some of the sermons, even

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though they say only one is saved, they will say

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that we can all somehow experience these things. So then

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it gets all complicated. Right, So who's saved who's not safe?

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So we don't agree on what the word is. We

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don't agree on who's saved is not saved. But here's

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even the more complicated issue. How do you fix the problem?

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If the ground represents the heart, how do you get

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the heart fixed where it's no longer the wayside or

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the packed down hard ground. How do you get to

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the tilled up ground? How? What? Who fixes it? Now

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this is where you're gonna get into some logical fallacies,

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right because if you say God fixes it, well, then

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why doesn't God just give everyone good ground? Why was

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that right? But I'm just saying whether whether they get

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fixed or don't get fixed, The point is, how do

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you get to the good ground? Who does it? If

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you say it's God, then what would be the logical question? Then?

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Why doesn't everyone just have good ground? So some say, well, yeah,

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well all Christians have good ground? So all Christians have

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good ground. Now wait a minute. If you connect this

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the Bible study, then you would say with then all

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good Christians will be effectual Bible students who can understand

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the Bible when they become saved. Well, we got two

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thousand years of church history showing Christians don't all agree

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on the Bible, understand the Bible, or even know what

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to do with the Bible, so connecting it to Bible

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study already seems to fall apart. Well, then if you say, well,

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Christians will bear fruit, now we're back to the idea.

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How do you know when they're bearing fruit? Do you

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base that off external? Do external things always amount to

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actual good fruit? No? Hey, Lord, Lord, didn't we do

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this and this and this and this. I'm sorry, I

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never knew you. So then how do you judge whether

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it's good fruit? Was it an internal external? Then this

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all becomes complicated and convoluted, right, And if God, I'm sorry,

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go ahead. It looks to look at people, so it's

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an expect it possibly could it possibly could observe, Well,

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it would be. I guess you could say it's God

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making the observation, right, since he's the one tell on

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the parable So but but typically, typically, once you get

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into all of this, you see how convoluted and different

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it can be. But typically hermeneutically speaking, the rules were

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parable are what is one of the fundamental rules about

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a parable hermeneutically speaking, interpreatively speaking, what's the number one

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interpretive rule when it comes to a parable. It's like

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basic hermeneutics, one on one, Like, okay, well, I think

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the number one rule is that parables are to be

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understood as giving one meaning, because when you get into

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all the details and this represents this, and this could

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be this, and this could be this, you almost inevilably

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end up in just circular, confused reasoning because the parables

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are really designed to have just one primary meaning. Right. Well,

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even one of the sermons I reviewed said it only

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has one primary meeting, and by the time the sermon

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was over, I don't know if we ever got what

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the one primary meeting meaning was, because once again it

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broke down and well, this is this, and this could

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be this and this this, and it's like, ah, So

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the primary meaning to me simply is what as the

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seed whatever that word is, goes out, there's gonna be

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different responses. It's just showing you the different responses. It's

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just using a word picture to say there's gonna be

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different responses. Now, philologically, the question is why are there

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different responses to it? Now? I think maybe I'm wrong,

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but I think if I'm just very practical and honest,

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even within a church where you have actual believers, do

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you not get different responses to the word. Hey, some

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people are very receptive. They take it in, they meditate

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on it, they think about it, they take notes, they

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talk about it, they do something with it, and others

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kind of be like whatever, whatever. And one of the

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pastors made the argument that basically, if you can't remember

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what was preached, then you're the hard soil and the

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word is just bouncing off I'm like, well, if I'm

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gonna base it off that, then I've preached to people

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everyone has been the hard soil because nobody can remember

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anything when I review the next week, right, So, like

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that's the way we're gonna judge people. And I mean,

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we've got all the statistics that say that what's preached

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on a Sunday, by the following Sunday, unless people open

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up their notebook, they will not remember it, which then

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makes me go, what you preach really is meaningless because

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no one's going to remember it a week later. By

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some statistics, by what's preached Sunday morning can't even be

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remembered Sunday Night. Do you understand how discouraging so well?

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Then does that mean everyone has a heart. I don't

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think that's the way you can judge the soils based

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off that, right. I think that's a ridiculous way to

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judge it. But the point is we all know in

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our Christian lives we have different interactions with the word

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do we not? Sometimes we're kind of cold to it,

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it kind of not does much other times? So how

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do we understand all of this? I don't have any

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easy answers, So what I set out to do is, like,

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you know what, since no one can come up with

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these answers, I'm going to come up with my own.

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So I'm going to offer two completely different interpretations to

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this parable. This parables found in Mark four. This parables

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also found in Matthew thirteen. Those are the two passages

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that has been the focus this week. I think it

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may also show up in Luke, but Matthew thirteen and

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Mark four is where we're going to spend most of

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our time. I'm going to offer two completely different and

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unique ways to interpret the parable. I am not saying

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my ways are right. What I'm going to say is

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that I'm simply trying to come up with a solution,

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because someone's got to be able to explain this, right,

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Someone's got to be able to explain it. And just

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to say one group of people are saved. I don't

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think this parable was designed as a test for salvation. Yeah, yeah,

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it doesn't. It just showing you the different responses, right right,

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So oh, exactly, yeah, exactly, I don't. I don't. And

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and what some do. Some try to argue, well, by

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your fruits you will know them, which is a quote

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from the Matthew. Well, ladies and gentlemen, that is the

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worst cross reference in the history of humankind because that

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verse in Matthew about by his fruits you will know

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them is not a reference to the fruit and Mark four.

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will know them is how you can understand if someone

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is a false teacher. By your fruits will know them.

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is saved or not saved. It's knowing if someone is

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a false teacher. So so even that, in fact, I

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spent an hour talking about that in the podcast, that

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that cross reference is ridiculous. So there's just so many

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problems with this parable so many problems. So are you

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ready to try to work something out? All right? So

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here we go. All right, I'm going to put forth

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some of the principles that I came up with. We're

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gonna call this first one. I don't now. This is

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a work in progress. Right, So everyone can be patient

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here because I may have to. You know, one of

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the things I always say now is that we try

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to do theology here. We don't just learn theology. See

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learning theology. I would just pick a commentary, choose one,

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and just preach whatever that commentary says in my own words,

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and then everybody would say, amen, oh that was a

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good sermon. It had three points and it was wonderful.

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The only problem is you would walk out of here

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no smarter than when you walked in. Sometimes you got

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to blow up that ridiculous sermon concept that everybody so

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loves because it does no one any good. We've got

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two thousand years of sermons and Christians are more biblically

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illiterate than at any time in human history. Sermons don't work,

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all right, at some point we got to actually study, right,

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to put our concept of not just teaching theology but

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doing it into practice, which we always do. So we're

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gonna work on this, so in real time, we're gonna

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try to figure this out. I've got two ideas. The

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first one, I'm just gonna reference this as to understand

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the parable of the Sower, we need to understand this

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and context of Israel. I'm gonna refer to this as

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a more dispensational approach. Ai argued with me because I

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had Ai analyze my interpretation, and Ai called it more

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in line with covenant theology. I don't care what team

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is I don't care about the team, right, I don't

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care about the team. What do I care about trying

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to figure out the text? Right? So, and Ai doesn't

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really care about the team. But so me and Ai

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we disagreed on its analysis of my interpretive concept here,

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but we're gonna work to it. So I'm just gonna say,

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well that to understand the parable of the Sower, we

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need to under stand Israel. All right, That's how I'm

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going to approach this. Does that sound okay? Okay? All right?

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So Ai said that my interpretation aligns well with they

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say covenant theology. It says, which often emphasizes continuity in

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God's dealings with his people through the covenants, and tends

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to interpret scripture in light of the whole narrative of redemption.

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the parable of the sower. So it breaks down my

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interpretation into points. Right. I gave my interpretation. Ai Ai said, hey, this,

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this looks good. Here's how it would be articulated, and

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then it broke it down for me, all right, which

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I love that. So but me and Ai, we don't

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necessarily I don't think it's in line with covenant theology.

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I think it's in line with dispensationalism. But we disagreed,

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and I'll read some of our back and forth here

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in a little bit. All right, So here's how it's

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broken down. You're ready. Point number one. The seed as

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God's message to Israel. Point number one. And my interpretation

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is when I read that the seed, the sower went

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out to sow the seed, and he threw the seed

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out that seed. That word is a word to Israel.

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It's a word to Israel. Okay, right, Jesus primarily spoke.

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I mean there was times he went to the Gentiles,

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but his message was to whom first, to the Jews.

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I think we can all agree with that, right. And

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before we get really to the death barrel and resurrection

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of Christ, things are still operating in very much an

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Old Testament mindset. Right. They're talking about things about washing

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your hands and eating and the Sabbath, and they're going

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to the synagogue and they're going to the temple like

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things are very much in an Old Testa mindset. Right.

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I know that's a very dispensational way to look at it,

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but I think this is a very dispensational concept here.

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So my interpretation holds that the seed represents the message

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of God's covenant promises and his kingdom consistently offered to

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Israel throughout their history. The focus is on Israel's response

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to God's covenantal outreach from the time of the Exodus.

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So when I wrote out my interpretation and to give

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it to Ai, I was like, Hey, the seed represents

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the message to Israel, and then everything that follows is

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going to outline Israel's response to that message from the

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time of the Exodus all the way up to the

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time of Jesus. It covers that entire period of time

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because when you look at those soils, all of those

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soils to me sound like Israel over and over and

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over again from the time they came out of Egypt.

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That's my argument. So does everyone understand my perspective? Right?

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So I'm saying, forget me, forget you. This is this

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is God trying to show the Jews, this is what's happened.

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The seed has been sent out and has been spread

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all throughout Israel's history, has it not? They could say

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God's God's seed has been has been sown to Israel

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from Abram Abram all the way on correct, over and

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over and over. What was Israel given? They were given

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the prophets, they were given the promises, they were given

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the law. They were given everything, over and over and

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over and just more seed and more seed, just being

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thrown out, thrown out, thrown out, over and over. And

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they were given it all. They were the ones giving

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God's revelation. But that priest. They had the tabernacle, they

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had the temple, they had the prophets, they had the law.

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I mean, what more could they need, correct. So, so

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the number one, the seed is God's message to Israel.

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It deals with the Covenant, It deals with the kingdom,

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right and over and over. Do we not see all

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those covenants being talked about the Israel, Oh, all the

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way from from from and from the Abrahamic Covenant. We

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can we can move all the way forward, right, Abrahamic,

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all the way Davidic. When we've been talking about those

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covenants in our study of eschatology, right, we talked about

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those covenants in light of our study of dispensationalism, did

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we not? So we've been really really doubling down on

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that idea all the way to the new covenant that

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we believe has made with whom Israel over and over

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and over. Okay, So keep that mine right. So that's

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number one, The seed is God's message to Israel. Number two,

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The different soils is Israel's historical responses. The different soils

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represent the different historical responses of Israel. Okay, So the

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Ai broke it down this way they call it. They

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called it the path. The rocky soil, the thorny soil,

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and the good soil. This is the way that broke

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it down. Here's how Ai decided to take my interpretation.

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The path could symbolize periods in Israel's history when the

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people were hardened and unresponsive to God's word, such as

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during the wilderness wanderings, or in the times of the Judges,

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whenever Wind did what was right in his own eyes?

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Is that not fair to say? Over and over and over?

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What would many times? What would Israel do? Now? Listen?

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Did not Jesus himself? Does he not mention how Israel

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was sent the prophets? And what did they do to

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the prophets? In many cases they killed them? Did they

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listen to Jeremiah? Did they listen to Isaiah? They listened

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to Ezekiel? That's the path, is it not? The seed

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kept being sown, and Israel just kept like it, just

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kept bouncing off of them, bouncing off of them, bouncing

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off of them. Even when the word in the flesh

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00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:40.839
comes to Israel, which is Jesus himself, crucify him. That's

470
00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:44.640
the path, is it not? That's the hard soil? How

471
00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:47.759
about the rocky soil? This could represent times of initial

472
00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:51.599
revival or acceptance followed by quick apostasy, perhaps reflecting the

473
00:29:51.599 --> 00:29:54.279
reigns of certain kings. Who initially followed God but quickly

474
00:29:54.319 --> 00:29:57.759
turned away like Saul or Solomon. Did we not see

475
00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:01.000
that in Israel's history there'd be a a little sign

476
00:30:01.039 --> 00:30:06.279
of what, oh, revival, They're they're, they're, they're reforming, they're

477
00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:14.240
they're doing things right, and inevitably what happens. Inevitably what happens?

478
00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:16.759
They fall right back away? Do we not even see that?

479
00:30:16.839 --> 00:30:21.960
In the judges? They seem to be following God and

480
00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:30.160
then they become apathetic, complacent, turn to idols. Then God

481
00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:35.559
brings them into bondage. They cry out to God. God

482
00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:39.000
raises up a judge, they are delivered. There's a sign

483
00:30:39.079 --> 00:30:43.240
of everything's going great. Then they become apathetic. Then over

484
00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:47.200
and over. It wasn't a one time cycle. It was

485
00:30:47.240 --> 00:30:51.559
a continuing, going on cycle. Is it not so? The

486
00:30:51.559 --> 00:30:54.240
the path could represent the periods of history where they

487
00:30:54.359 --> 00:30:56.960
just don't care. The rocky soil could represent times of

488
00:30:57.000 --> 00:31:00.759
initial revival, the third the thorny soil. This might reflect

489
00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:03.599
periods like the Divided Kingdom, where idolatry and the influence

490
00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:06.559
of surrounding nations choked out true worship. They do we

491
00:31:06.599 --> 00:31:10.640
not see that constantly in Israel? Hey? Israel? When you

492
00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:15.160
go into the land, don't do what, don't be influenced

493
00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:18.359
by them, And inevitably they would go and they would

494
00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:20.599
be like, we're gonna worship God. And the next thing

495
00:31:20.680 --> 00:31:23.920
you know, they're corrupting their worship, and their worship is

496
00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:27.680
choked out by the cares of the world right, politics,

497
00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:34.160
war relationships, and then it would get choked out. Good soil.

498
00:31:34.440 --> 00:31:38.440
This reflects moments that remain that this reflects the remnant

499
00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:41.319
that remained faithful, such as during the reforms of Hezekiah

500
00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:43.960
or Josiah and those who wouldultimately be part of the

501
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:48.720
restored Israel under the New Covenant. Now hear that. Now,

502
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:51.400
I do believe it has some reflection to those good

503
00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:54.680
periods of the Remnant in Israel's history. But I believe

504
00:31:54.720 --> 00:31:59.680
the good Soil ultimately represents restored Israel and the new

505
00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:05.279
covet it because I believe that being thirtyfold, sixtyfold, one hundredfold,

506
00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:10.720
the fruitfulness is New Covenant language. And I will try

507
00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:12.920
to demonstrate that here. And well, I mean, y'all should

508
00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:14.920
already know, because I'm gonna tell you to look up

509
00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:16.880
the passages. I tell you to look up five hundred

510
00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:19.480
times when we ever mentioned the New Covenant, but we

511
00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:21.920
won't look them up right now, all right, So what

512
00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:26.720
is my interpretation? The seed is the message of the

513
00:32:26.759 --> 00:32:32.799
covenants and of the Kingdom to whom Israel the soil represents.

514
00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:40.039
The soils represent what Israel's historical response to that message. Right,

515
00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:45.240
And it's been the path, right, that's the hard soil,

516
00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:50.119
the next the rocky soil, and next the thorny soil,

517
00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:57.039
and then the good soil. Right. So Number one, the

518
00:32:57.079 --> 00:33:00.160
seed is God's message Israel. Number two, the soils represents

519
00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:07.920
Israel's historical responses. Number three alignment with the New Covenant

520
00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:12.279
promises and the Covenant or we'll call it the Land

521
00:33:12.319 --> 00:33:17.079
Covenant in Deuteronomy. That this allignment well, So if I

522
00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:19.880
do it in order, this aligns with the Land Covenant

523
00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:26.279
in Deuteronomy, and the New Covenant promises. The fruitful response

524
00:33:26.680 --> 00:33:30.200
of the good soil can be likened to the blessings,

525
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:33.440
the blessings promised in Deuteronomy twenty eight through thirty. Everyone

526
00:33:33.440 --> 00:33:36.039
turned to Deuteronomy twenty eight through thirty. You start looking

527
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:39.720
through there and tell me what kind of promises seem

528
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:43.880
to be given to Israel if they will be faithful

529
00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:46.279
if they will do what God calls them to do,

530
00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:50.119
if they will believe you. Just look, Start looking through

531
00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:55.759
Deuteronomy twenty eight through thirty and tell me what you find.

532
00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:06.759
Look at the blessings. Oh wait, wait, what's what's almost

533
00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:13.800
immediately used? Fruit? Can I remember in Mark four? What's

534
00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:17.920
the thing? The good soul is going to be fruitful? Right?

535
00:34:18.840 --> 00:34:20.800
That stood around me? Twenty eight what's the first verse

536
00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:26.039
that uses the word fruit? Twenty eight four? Okay, and

537
00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:28.400
then as it begins to describe everything else, what does

538
00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:32.760
that describe to start going through some of those blessings? Okay,

539
00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:45.920
keep going, Yeah, everything's going to be fruitful and blessed. Right,

540
00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:48.760
just keep keep going through it. Just keep going through this,

541
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:59.280
go out. Enemies are going to be defeated, You're gonna

542
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:02.440
be blessed. There's gonna be fruitfulness. Doesn't talk about the

543
00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:15.440
land being producing all kinds of good stuff? Yeah? Does

544
00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:19.199
that sound like being fruitful? Right? So in my mind

545
00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:23.639
when I read Mark four and I'm like, hey, thirtyfold, sixtyfold,

546
00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:29.119
one hundredfold, that sounds like Deuteronomy. That sounds like Deuteronomy.

547
00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:31.559
This is the promised guy. And remember I said that

548
00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:34.800
when we read all of those prayers in the Old Testament,

549
00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:37.840
that the reason that Israel could pray a certain way

550
00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:41.119
is because of all the blessings given to them. Correct, right,

551
00:35:41.320 --> 00:35:43.920
God promised all the things blessings, so Israel could pray

552
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:47.119
for the destruction of the enemy, for blessing, this blessing,

553
00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:49.960
this being fruitful here, being fruitful there, because they were

554
00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:54.639
praying consistent with the Covenant. Well, what Jesus will say, hey, Israel,

555
00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:57.639
the message has been given to you, and you guys

556
00:35:57.639 --> 00:35:59.639
have responded this way, in this way, in this way.

557
00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:02.960
How however, the ultimate promise is that you can be

558
00:36:03.000 --> 00:36:08.000
fruitful and have thirty sixty and one hundredfold blessing. And

559
00:36:08.039 --> 00:36:12.199
that goes all the way back to Deuteronomy. All right, now,

560
00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:16.559
please know so this aligns with the promises in Deuteronomy

561
00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:18.480
and the New Covenant. So let me read how hey

562
00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:21.239
I put this. The fruitful response of the good soul

563
00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:24.199
can be likened to the blessings promised in Deuteronomy twenty

564
00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:27.119
eight through thirty for obedience and the spiritual renewal and

565
00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:32.039
national restoration outline in the prophetic books. So now everyone

566
00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:37.760
go find the passages in the Ezekiel that speaks of the

567
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:40.280
New Covenant. You knew I was going to go there.

568
00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:54.960
You knew I was going to go there. I make

569
00:36:55.039 --> 00:37:06.719
y'all look these up all the time. Well, there's a bunch.

570
00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:08.960
I think there's mentioned a couple of times. So the

571
00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:14.280
New Covenant promises in Ezequel, what do we got is Eequel.

572
00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:22.239
We'll get to Jeremiah. We'll get to Jeremiah. Okay, all right,

573
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:27.280
So what do we have? Well, we go with the

574
00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:29.840
Esequel first. Why do we always go to Ezequel first?

575
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:32.239
Because Ezequiel is the one that makes it very clear

576
00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:34.280
about a new heart that everyone always talks about that

577
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:51.159
I think everyone rips it completely out of context. Right, Well,

578
00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:57.800
thirty six is probably a good place to start, right, Okay,

579
00:37:57.920 --> 00:37:59.639
all right, we'll go to thirty six first and then

580
00:37:59.639 --> 00:38:02.840
will bounce back to thirty three. Go to Ezequel thirty six,

581
00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:07.960
starting in verse twenty four. Okay, oh, verse thirty three, okay, yeah,

582
00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:09.239
we'll get to that one, all right, So we'll go

583
00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:11.239
to thirty six twenty four, and then we'll get down

584
00:38:11.239 --> 00:38:14.440
to verse thirty three. All right, everybody ready, thirty six

585
00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:17.159
twenty four, God speaking to Israel, for I will take

586
00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:19.920
you from among nations, gather you out of all countries,

587
00:38:19.960 --> 00:38:23.880
and bring you into your own land. Then I will

588
00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:26.119
sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean.

589
00:38:26.320 --> 00:38:28.599
I will cleanse you from all filthiness and from all

590
00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:32.159
your idols. I will give you a new heart and

591
00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:34.280
put a new spear within you. I will take the

592
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:36.519
heart of stone out of your flesh, and will give

593
00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:39.119
you the heart of stone out of your flesh. And

594
00:38:39.159 --> 00:38:41.239
we'll give you a heart of flesh. Now, wait a minute,

595
00:38:41.440 --> 00:38:45.440
what's the hard ground. Everybody says it's the heart. Well,

596
00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:48.639
who's the only one promised to get a new heart?

597
00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:53.320
Everyone says, that's us. That's ridiculous. Execuel's not about us.

598
00:38:54.159 --> 00:38:57.239
It's about Israel. When will they get a new heart

599
00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:03.119
when God the new covenant with them. Has it happened yet? No?

600
00:39:03.679 --> 00:39:05.360
And what's going to happen when He gives them this

601
00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:07.440
new heart. I will put my spirit within you and

602
00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:11.679
cause you to do what walk in my statutes, And

603
00:39:11.719 --> 00:39:14.719
you will keep my judgments and will do them. Let

604
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:17.280
me make it very clear, if we were given a

605
00:39:17.320 --> 00:39:22.360
new heart, what should be the results perfect obedience? There

606
00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:25.239
is no perfect obedience. You don't have a new heart

607
00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:28.360
and any Christian who tells you that is drunk and

608
00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:32.440
out of their minds, okay, because it's not true. It's

609
00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:36.519
just ridiculous for Christians to continue to believe that. But

610
00:39:36.599 --> 00:39:38.519
you tell Christian friends you know that you don't have

611
00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:41.079
a new heart, they'll be like, because you're not saved,

612
00:39:41.400 --> 00:39:43.840
And then they'll quote Ezekiel or they'll say you're in

613
00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:46.320
Who knows what they'll reference you ask, but I don't

614
00:39:46.360 --> 00:39:50.239
know what they're talking about, right, And I'm grown very

615
00:39:50.360 --> 00:39:53.800
tired of this debate, all right, because anyone who can

616
00:39:53.840 --> 00:39:57.480
read Ezekiel knows this is about Israel, right, And then

617
00:39:57.519 --> 00:39:59.639
he says, so what's going to happen. You're gonna walk

618
00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:01.920
in my statutes, You're gonna keep my judgments. Then you

619
00:40:01.960 --> 00:40:10.440
shall verse twenty eight. Then you shall dwell in the land.

620
00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:16.360
Why is that important? Because I know that immediately knows

621
00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:20.239
it's talking about Israel, right, Okay, you should dwell in

622
00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:23.360
the land that I gave to your fathers. And there's

623
00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:26.760
no way to make this about the church. This is

624
00:40:26.760 --> 00:40:30.079
where I go sick and tired to reform. People Stop

625
00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:35.719
telling me I can't read. It's obvious, yes, all right,

626
00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:39.079
Then what happens, you shall be my people, and I

627
00:40:39.079 --> 00:40:43.159
will be your God. I will deliver you from I

628
00:40:43.159 --> 00:40:47.159
want everyone to read verse twenty nine. All your uncleanliness,

629
00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:53.559
all that means what spiritual perfection? This is not us?

630
00:40:55.360 --> 00:40:57.199
And I will and I will call for the grain.

631
00:40:57.320 --> 00:40:59.559
Oh the way, you know, we talked about being fruitful,

632
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:04.360
so we have the hard ground mentioned, yes, that rocky

633
00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:07.239
soil and the thorns. In a sense, it's all mentioned

634
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:10.239
here because God's gonna redo what, clean it all up.

635
00:41:11.679 --> 00:41:13.800
He's gonna clean it all up. And then what's going

636
00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:20.400
to happen. What's the next part here? Yeah, I'm he's

637
00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:23.719
gonna I'm going to uh call, I'm gonna call for

638
00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:27.199
the grain and multiply it and bring no famine upon you,

639
00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:31.519
and I will everyone read the next verse, multiply the

640
00:41:31.559 --> 00:41:34.159
fruit of your trees and the increase of your fields

641
00:41:34.159 --> 00:41:38.519
that you need never again bear reproach. Oh wait a minute,

642
00:41:38.599 --> 00:41:47.199
now we got fruit. That's literally Mark chapter four. It's

643
00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:52.039
literally the New Covenant. What Jesus is saying, if historically

644
00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:54.440
the seed has gone out to you and get guess

645
00:41:54.480 --> 00:42:00.280
how you guys have responded. You've responded like hard soil.

646
00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:03.159
You've responded with a little bit of like, Ooh, it's

647
00:42:03.199 --> 00:42:05.519
going okay, but there's no root, so it doesn't last.

648
00:42:05.719 --> 00:42:09.000
Or you sound like it's all good, but immediately it

649
00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:12.599
gets choked out. But the time is coming when the

650
00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:17.440
ground is going to be perfectly tilled, and then the

651
00:42:17.480 --> 00:42:19.599
fruit is going to a crow. And who's gonna till

652
00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:25.840
the ground? Who's gonna make it? Right? God? God? Now

653
00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:30.440
what verse were you referring to? Uh Sarah? Verse thirty four?

654
00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:33.519
The desolate land should be tilled? Oh there, look at

655
00:42:33.559 --> 00:42:37.239
that instead of lying desolate and the side of all

656
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:40.599
who passed by, And so what's going to happen to

657
00:42:40.639 --> 00:42:44.239
the land that was desolate has become like the garden

658
00:42:44.360 --> 00:42:49.280
of Looking verse thirty five. Eden. And when when we

659
00:42:49.400 --> 00:42:50.960
think of the garden of Eden, what do we think

660
00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:57.159
of fruit? This is the whole parables about it, the

661
00:42:57.199 --> 00:43:00.440
history of Israel, and nobody in Christian he seems to

662
00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:04.280
be able to figure this part out. So we're over

663
00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:08.360
here having all of these arguments, who's saved, who's not saved? Wait,

664
00:43:08.760 --> 00:43:11.800
this is how you read your Bible. All you're gonna

665
00:43:11.840 --> 00:43:14.079
do is just read it in the context of who

666
00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:22.159
it's being spoken to. Does that make sense? Yeah, you

667
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:24.559
get the valley of the dry bones and then ultimately

668
00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:33.039
what happens complete restoration, which is Israel. Yeah, it's just

669
00:43:33.119 --> 00:43:38.880
the same word picture, right, I mean Jesus was Jewish?

670
00:43:39.239 --> 00:43:44.760
What scripture did Jesus know? He's just using this same picture.

671
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:50.000
It's not that complicated. Now it is complicated. You know

672
00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:54.320
why it's complicated because we listen to sermons. If we'd

673
00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:58.880
stop listening to sermons, we'd all be better off Christians

674
00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:02.599
because sermons have He's ruined the parable that we can

675
00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:04.519
And what did Jesus say? If you can't figure this

676
00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:07.519
one out, you can't understand any of it. I think

677
00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:11.320
we've all missed the point. Now. I know I'm being

678
00:44:11.360 --> 00:44:13.960
more dogmatic than I typically would be with the hypothesis,

679
00:44:14.159 --> 00:44:16.280
so I am going to at least remind you I

680
00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:18.119
still believe this is the hypotheses, and I got to

681
00:44:18.159 --> 00:44:20.119
work it out. But I just think this is This

682
00:44:20.159 --> 00:44:23.039
removes all of these other problems, doesn't not. This is

683
00:44:23.079 --> 00:44:25.119
not telling me how to be a good Bible student.

684
00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:26.920
This is not trying to give me a test on

685
00:44:26.960 --> 00:44:29.320
who's saved or not saved. This is trying to say

686
00:44:29.719 --> 00:44:32.400
Israel I've shown up. And from the very minute he

687
00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:36.880
started preaching, what did he say, repent for the The

688
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:40.760
Kingdom of Heaven is at hand right Israel. The king

689
00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:45.800
has arrived, the kingdom, and what did they do? Don't

690
00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:48.159
want it? And even when we get to it, right

691
00:44:48.199 --> 00:44:51.599
before he ascends, what did the disciples ask? Are you

692
00:44:51.639 --> 00:44:56.320
going to restore the kingdom now? No? Not, You're not

693
00:44:56.360 --> 00:44:58.199
going to get the kingdom now, But the kingdom is

694
00:44:58.239 --> 00:45:00.159
going to come. And when the kingdom comes, what's going

695
00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:04.159
to happen. The ground's going to be tilled, They're going

696
00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:06.960
to be restored, and it's going to be like Eden.

697
00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:13.079
They're fruitful, and God will be their God. There will

698
00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:16.519
be his people and that will be cleaned from all

699
00:45:16.599 --> 00:45:32.880
unrighteousness because I see it. Yeah, I don't think we're

700
00:45:33.039 --> 00:45:35.719
with a parable you're supposed to do that. I think

701
00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:37.559
that what we're supposed to do with the parable is

702
00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:40.800
is what is it? Just demonstrating thirty six to one

703
00:45:40.840 --> 00:45:43.960
hundred is just saying what it's fruitful. I don't think

704
00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:46.599
it's supposed to like what thirty represents this, sixty represents

705
00:45:46.599 --> 00:45:53.679
this a right, But I just think it's going to

706
00:45:53.760 --> 00:45:58.719
be fruitfulness, just going to be fruitful. I mean, if

707
00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:00.760
you went, if we want to break it, then the

708
00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:02.880
parable is never We're never gonna be able to interpret

709
00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:04.679
the parable if we're going to try to make every

710
00:46:04.719 --> 00:46:09.280
part fit, but nothing else is going to work, nothing else,

711
00:46:09.559 --> 00:46:11.960
everything else is going to fall apart. This at least

712
00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:17.920
there's gonna be fruit. And what's gonna happen. There's gonna

713
00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:20.880
be fruit, right, I think now by all means, if

714
00:46:20.920 --> 00:46:23.599
it doesn't work for you, that's that's perfectly okay. All

715
00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:27.039
I can do is offer the best interpret interpretation I can. Right,

716
00:46:27.119 --> 00:46:30.800
if you go to Jeremiah thirty one, just to double

717
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:33.679
down on this, Jeremiah thirty one. We're going to run

718
00:46:33.719 --> 00:46:43.719
out of time. Jeremiah thirty one, thirty one through thirty four.

719
00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:49.079
All right, we know this right thirty one thirty one. Behold,

720
00:46:49.119 --> 00:46:50.639
the days are coming. Say it's the Lord that I

721
00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:52.480
will make a new covenant with the House of Israel

722
00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:54.800
and the House of Judah, not according to the covenant

723
00:46:54.840 --> 00:46:56.239
I made with their fathers in the days that I

724
00:46:56.280 --> 00:46:57.599
took them by the hand to lead them out of

725
00:46:57.599 --> 00:47:02.039
the land of Egypt, my covenant which they they broke.

726
00:47:02.840 --> 00:47:06.079
Right now, what's awesome about that that covers all those

727
00:47:06.119 --> 00:47:10.440
other responses, does it not? Though I was a husbandman

728
00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:12.840
to them, says the Lord. But this is the covenant

729
00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:14.519
that I will make with the House of Israel and

730
00:47:14.559 --> 00:47:16.360
those days, says the Lord. I will put my law

731
00:47:16.400 --> 00:47:18.039
in their minds, and I will write it in their hearts,

732
00:47:18.039 --> 00:47:19.519
and that will be their God, and they shall be

733
00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:21.800
my people. No more shall every man teach his neighbor,

734
00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:23.880
and every man his brother, saying know the Lord, for

735
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:25.960
they shall all know me, from the least of them

736
00:47:25.960 --> 00:47:27.800
to the greatest of them, says the Lord. For I

737
00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:30.840
will forgive their iniquity and their sin. I will remember

738
00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:34.000
no more, that says the Lord. And he goes on

739
00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:39.400
and talks about everything that's going to occur, right, and

740
00:47:39.679 --> 00:47:42.679
everything that's going to occur sounds like it's going to

741
00:47:42.719 --> 00:47:44.760
be fruitful, it's going to be beneficial, it's going to

742
00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:47.159
be great, it's going to be wonderful. Ezekiel goes into

743
00:47:47.159 --> 00:47:53.559
far more detail. Obviously, all right, so this is how

744
00:47:53.840 --> 00:47:57.000
this is how I, uh, this is how AI rewrote

745
00:47:57.039 --> 00:48:01.400
my interpretation. AI said this these passages, those passages right there,

746
00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:05.480
and I gave Ai the Deuteronomy passage and the Ezekiel

747
00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:08.199
passage in the Jeremiah passage. So then it took those

748
00:48:08.199 --> 00:48:11.639
passages and said this, these passages promises a new heart,

749
00:48:11.800 --> 00:48:16.519
a new spirit, leading to obedience and blessing, paralleling the

750
00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:21.119
fruitful soil that yields a harvest. So AI was like, Hey,

751
00:48:21.159 --> 00:48:24.000
the whole point of Mark four about the thirty sixty

752
00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:27.760
hundred is just simply what it yields a harvest, not

753
00:48:28.679 --> 00:48:32.199
the individual numbers. Again, if that keeps you from accepting

754
00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:34.920
my hypothesis, that's perfectly okay. I just don't know what

755
00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:38.760
you put in place of it, because the thirty sixty

756
00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:40.760
hundred you're going to have to do something with it. Anyway.

757
00:48:41.000 --> 00:48:43.440
Now I can pull out MacArthur and go full blown

758
00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:46.360
lordship with it. I can go full blown lordship with it.

759
00:48:46.360 --> 00:48:47.800
And it's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in

760
00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:51.760
the history of humankind. Right, it's trash okay. So, but

761
00:48:52.119 --> 00:48:54.719
I understand that position because I used to preach the

762
00:48:54.719 --> 00:48:58.280
parable that way. So I know the lordship way. Right.

763
00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:03.920
Unless you do this, you're not saved. Now everybody hears it,

764
00:49:03.920 --> 00:49:07.039
we'd all I'm served. I'm served, And it doesn't matter

765
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:09.719
what fruit we had or we would convince ourselves that

766
00:49:09.760 --> 00:49:13.280
we have some level of fruit. But how so what

767
00:49:13.360 --> 00:49:15.400
we tell it's just the whole thing's ridiculous. And at

768
00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:17.519
the same time, the whole lords of view is based

769
00:49:17.559 --> 00:49:18.960
on that you've got the new heart while I got

770
00:49:19.079 --> 00:49:22.440
the new heart, then I should be perfect. Right, the

771
00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:28.039
whole thing falls apart. So all right, but uh so, well,

772
00:49:28.079 --> 00:49:30.119
I guess I can go to the next point. All right,

773
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:34.480
So this isn't now Ai. Again, I didn't. This is

774
00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:37.920
where me and Ai had a problem. So number one,

775
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:41.000
the seed belongs to the seed is the message to Israel.

776
00:49:41.039 --> 00:49:44.199
Number two, the different soul represents Israel's historical responses. Number

777
00:49:44.239 --> 00:49:48.880
three it aligns with Deuteronomy and New Covenant promises. And

778
00:49:48.920 --> 00:49:51.159
then number four, this is how Ai wrote it, So

779
00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:55.039
don't write it down this way. AI wrote down implications

780
00:49:55.639 --> 00:49:59.679
of a covenantal view. Now I don't like that. Refer

781
00:49:59.760 --> 00:50:03.519
to it the covenental view, because the way the way

782
00:50:03.599 --> 00:50:06.440
I'm explaining my view, almost everyone would refer to that

783
00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:11.280
as what kind of a view? Dispensational. Most would not

784
00:50:11.320 --> 00:50:13.960
put covenantal. I don't know why Ai. I think the

785
00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:17.239
reason Ai is using the word covenental is because and

786
00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:19.360
I didn't have I like I was going to argue

787
00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:22.119
more last night with it, but I had other things

788
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:29.679
going on. So well, because is it because Deuteronomy, Ezekiel,

789
00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:32.840
and Jeremia are all covenant versus So I think it's

790
00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:36.360
using covenantal in that way. I when I hear covenantal,

791
00:50:36.360 --> 00:50:41.119
I'm thinking covenant theology. So I didn't have a chance

792
00:50:41.159 --> 00:50:43.599
to continue back and forth with Ai to get there.

793
00:50:43.960 --> 00:50:46.960
But so I'm going to say this the I'm gonna

794
00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:50.960
put it this way. Number four, the implications of this view,

795
00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:55.039
the implications of my view. So AI wanted me to

796
00:50:55.079 --> 00:50:58.400
know the implications of what I was saying, right, Well,

797
00:50:58.400 --> 00:51:01.519
that's good. I wanted AI to child. I wanted it

798
00:51:01.599 --> 00:51:04.360
to analyze my hypotheses and see what we could come

799
00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:07.480
up with. All right, So here's what AI believes are

800
00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:12.480
the implications of my view, all right. Number one, God's faithfulness.

801
00:51:13.360 --> 00:51:18.480
This interpretation or your interpretation, underscores God's faithfulness and patience

802
00:51:18.480 --> 00:51:23.000
with Israel despite their repeated failures. He highlights it highlights

803
00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:27.880
the continuity of his covenant promises and his plan for redemption.

804
00:51:29.400 --> 00:51:32.840
So AI believe that my view shows that God remained

805
00:51:32.880 --> 00:51:39.920
faithful to continue doing what with Israel seed? What did

806
00:51:39.960 --> 00:51:45.079
he not do? Stop? He kept giving them seed? Right

807
00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:49.239
even to this day, the Gospel stills to be preached

808
00:51:49.239 --> 00:51:56.320
to Israel, is it not? Okay? So second Israel's role

809
00:51:56.360 --> 00:52:00.639
in future. It also maintains a strong future orientation, affirming

810
00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:03.000
that Israel still has a role in God's redemptive plan

811
00:52:03.239 --> 00:52:05.679
and that the promises of restoration and blessings under the

812
00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:08.760
New Covenant will be fully realized in the future. So

813
00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:12.039
AI is like, Hey, your interpretation says God has not

814
00:52:12.079 --> 00:52:17.400
done with Israel, and Israel will be what the tilled

815
00:52:17.480 --> 00:52:26.679
ground that will produce root, just as God promised, just

816
00:52:26.719 --> 00:52:31.559
says God promised. All right, Okay, everybody got that next

817
00:52:32.039 --> 00:52:35.400
universal application and this one made me a little nervous, right,

818
00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:38.480
So now AI wants to apply this universally. This is

819
00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:42.320
what AI said, while focusing on Israel, your interpretation can

820
00:52:42.360 --> 00:52:47.199
also apply can apply universally, reflecting the broader human condition

821
00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:50.199
and the various responses to God's message across all nations

822
00:52:50.760 --> 00:52:54.079
and times. Okay, I have no problem with that that

823
00:52:54.159 --> 00:52:59.039
in some ways we parallel Israel? Do we not? Do

824
00:52:59.079 --> 00:53:02.559
we not parallel? Is? Think about it? Now? Tell me

825
00:53:02.599 --> 00:53:08.599
if this works. Israel was in bondage too. Egypt they

826
00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:11.079
were set free, and from the moment they were set free,

827
00:53:11.760 --> 00:53:14.599
they had every one of those soils present in their

828
00:53:14.639 --> 00:53:18.760
history correct. And they will not be the good soil

829
00:53:19.360 --> 00:53:25.199
producing all the fruit until till the end. We have

830
00:53:25.320 --> 00:53:29.280
been delivered from the penalty and condemnation of sin. And

831
00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:34.599
what is the history of our lives? Does it not

832
00:53:34.679 --> 00:53:38.360
parallel those soils. Sometimes we're hard, and we don't listen

833
00:53:38.480 --> 00:53:41.679
very well, do we not? Sometimes we are like yay,

834
00:53:41.880 --> 00:53:44.480
and it doesn't last very long. And then sometimes we're

835
00:53:44.480 --> 00:53:46.599
like and in all the cares of the world and

836
00:53:46.639 --> 00:53:50.599
the thorns, and we get deceitfulness of riches, and then

837
00:53:50.639 --> 00:53:53.320
we get pulled away from scripture. When are we ever

838
00:53:53.440 --> 00:53:56.079
going to be the good soil producing thirty sixteen one

839
00:53:56.119 --> 00:54:04.039
hundred glorification? Why? Because we will get a a new heart.

840
00:54:04.960 --> 00:54:07.239
The old will be remembered. I know that's gonna take

841
00:54:07.239 --> 00:54:12.280
off every Christian who I've got a new heart now perfect? Now, okay, Well,

842
00:54:12.280 --> 00:54:14.599
you continue to believe that nonsense because I know you're

843
00:54:14.639 --> 00:54:20.920
not right. You know why I know you're not because

844
00:54:20.960 --> 00:54:27.119
I'm not right. Two thousand years of church history. What's

845
00:54:27.119 --> 00:54:34.480
the one thing we know, we're all trash, right, Okay,

846
00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:38.960
well nobody wants to say that. Okay, we're all trash now.

847
00:54:39.519 --> 00:54:42.639
Then the next thing is gonna give me is stillological relevance.

848
00:54:43.159 --> 00:54:48.239
But we'll wait. Now, this is my first attempt to well,

849
00:54:49.079 --> 00:54:52.239
let me take it back. This is my second attempt

850
00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:55.400
to interpret it. I took my second and made it

851
00:54:55.480 --> 00:55:01.360
first today because my first AI rejected. AI had a

852
00:55:01.400 --> 00:55:04.320
problem with my first interpretation. It didn't have a problem,

853
00:55:04.480 --> 00:55:07.039
AI first said, my first attempt to interpret it was

854
00:55:07.079 --> 00:55:11.119
really good until I pointed out a possible flaw in

855
00:55:11.199 --> 00:55:15.360
my view, and then AI was like, well you do realize, yeah,

856
00:55:15.360 --> 00:55:18.760
that's a problem and things you may need to rethink

857
00:55:18.800 --> 00:55:22.960
your interpretation. So but AI liked this one. My other

858
00:55:23.039 --> 00:55:25.519
one it kind of liked. But then it was like, well,

859
00:55:25.760 --> 00:55:27.840
there could be a problem here we have to consider.

860
00:55:28.000 --> 00:55:30.840
And that problem is you're interpreting Mark four in a

861
00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:33.719
way that may not work with how you interpret Matthew thirteen,

862
00:55:33.760 --> 00:55:36.199
where the same parable is found. So but we're going

863
00:55:36.280 --> 00:55:38.880
to test that theory coming out. So my way of

864
00:55:38.880 --> 00:55:42.559
interpreting it, if you were to summarize, right, so if

865
00:55:42.599 --> 00:55:44.360
you go somewhere today and people like, what did you

866
00:55:44.440 --> 00:55:46.679
learn in church? We talked about the parable of the Sower,

867
00:55:46.679 --> 00:55:49.599
and they'd be like, oh, good, so they met their

868
00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:52.079
first question. Maybe, so who did y'all determine is saved

869
00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:54.199
or not saved in the parable? And then you can

870
00:55:54.199 --> 00:55:56.159
look at them going, I don't know what Bible you're reading,

871
00:55:56.239 --> 00:55:58.960
but that's not what the parable is about. Right, So

872
00:55:59.079 --> 00:56:09.760
now summarize my interpretation of the parable. Go well, okay,

873
00:56:09.800 --> 00:56:11.440
that's a good way. Or we could just break down

874
00:56:11.480 --> 00:56:15.480
bullet points. The seed is God's message of the Covenant

875
00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:21.000
in the Kingdom to Israel. The soils represent Israel's responses

876
00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:26.800
from the time of the Exodus all the way to

877
00:56:26.880 --> 00:56:34.960
their restoration. Okay, that's it. That's it, and just as

878
00:56:35.000 --> 00:56:37.440
simple as you can put it. Obviously there's more elements

879
00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:39.679
to it. Meaning then we don't need to get into

880
00:56:39.760 --> 00:56:42.480
all the arguments about it. How do we see ourselves

881
00:56:42.559 --> 00:56:46.199
in it? Just as Israel was delivered, we have been

882
00:56:46.239 --> 00:56:49.199
delivered from the penalty. I know Christians say from the

883
00:56:49.199 --> 00:56:51.239
power of sin. We haven't obviously been delivered from the

884
00:56:51.239 --> 00:56:53.920
power of sin. That's ridiculous. We've been delivered from the

885
00:56:53.920 --> 00:56:59.079
penalty and condemnation of sin, and yet our path parallels

886
00:56:59.239 --> 00:57:03.199
Israel's path. Sometimes we're very hard hearted and the seed

887
00:57:03.320 --> 00:57:09.239
just kind of bounces off of us. Right. Sometimes there's

888
00:57:09.280 --> 00:57:12.199
a little bit of excitement, but it doesn't last the

889
00:57:12.280 --> 00:57:15.800
same thing. And obviously we know. And so it's not

890
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:18.480
about well, God's the one who changes the heart. God's

891
00:57:18.559 --> 00:57:23.199
not going to change the heart to win glorification. I

892
00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:25.800
know that goes against everything you've ever been taught. But

893
00:57:25.920 --> 00:57:28.400
I there's no way you can tell me God has

894
00:57:28.440 --> 00:57:31.760
transformed my heart now, because if He's transformed my heart now,

895
00:57:32.119 --> 00:57:36.360
then guess what I should be? Basically perfect? And are

896
00:57:36.400 --> 00:57:38.920
you perfect and not? I'm perfect? No? And how do

897
00:57:39.000 --> 00:57:43.679
I know God does not transformed the heart. Here's what

898
00:57:43.719 --> 00:57:45.159
I want. Here's what I want you to look up,

899
00:57:45.199 --> 00:57:47.079
and we'll read it in the next hour. Okay, So

900
00:57:47.119 --> 00:57:48.599
here's what I want you to look up. You're ready.

901
00:57:50.000 --> 00:57:53.039
Find the verse where Jesus refers to it's out of

902
00:57:53.079 --> 00:57:59.639
the heart that comes all to sin. Find that verse. Okay,

903
00:58:00.039 --> 00:58:03.559
it's in it. It's in I think, Matthew, I believe

904
00:58:03.559 --> 00:58:06.039
it's in Matthew. Okay, Well, we'll look it up and

905
00:58:06.039 --> 00:58:07.760
we'll read it in the next hour. For now we'll pray.

906
00:58:07.760 --> 00:58:09.800
All right, Lord God, we come before you. I am

907
00:58:09.840 --> 00:58:14.000
so thankful. There may not be many people here, This

908
00:58:14.079 --> 00:58:16.679
building may be sold, and this may be the end

909
00:58:16.800 --> 00:58:19.599
of what we do here. But Lord, I'm grateful for

910
00:58:19.639 --> 00:58:22.239
the time that we've had to be a church where

911
00:58:22.280 --> 00:58:26.800
we can put forth hypotheses like this and challenge interpretations.

912
00:58:27.199 --> 00:58:29.480
I would not get away with this in almost any church.

913
00:58:29.639 --> 00:58:32.760
I would be fired on the spot because people don't

914
00:58:32.760 --> 00:58:38.400
want to have things challenged or to look for new interpretations.

915
00:58:38.719 --> 00:58:40.719
So Lord, I'm grateful for the time you've given us

916
00:58:40.760 --> 00:58:43.280
here to do these types of things. Lord, I pray

917
00:58:43.320 --> 00:58:47.679
that we would always, no matter where this what happens here,

918
00:58:48.119 --> 00:58:50.320
we would always be people who will continue to pursue

919
00:58:50.480 --> 00:58:56.480
truth and not just rely on previous interpretations. Because Lord,

920
00:58:56.559 --> 00:58:59.199
I think so many times our previous understanding has been

921
00:58:59.239 --> 00:59:02.440
so flawed and so broken, and we ask you to

922
00:59:02.480 --> 00:59:04.159
forgive us for those times. And we asked us in

923
00:59:04.199 --> 00:59:06.760
Jesus name, and God's people said