Oct. 18, 2024

Metaphor or Literal ? Pt 1

Metaphor or Literal ? Pt 1

A discussion about Proverbs 30:14

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A discussion about Proverbs 30:14

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Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is

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the Theology Central podcast, making Theology Central. This generation, they

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are so entitled, they are lazy, they're disrespectful, They spend

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all of their time looking at social media. You can't

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get them to put their phone down. I mean, this

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generation is a mess. If this is the future, we

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are doomed. I mean, I can't stand this generation. Have

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you ever heard older people talk that way? Have you

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ever talked that way? What's the deal with people complaining

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about this generation? Well, in this episode, we're going to

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talk about there is a generation, and then we're going

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to talk about this phenomenon of older generations complaining about

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this generation. And we're going to do all of this

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in the context of a section of Scripture and Proverbs,

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chapter thirty. Sound interesting, sound like something you want to

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listen to, Well, keep listening and we'll get to that

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right after I do this. Good morning everyone. It is Friday,

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October eighteenth, twenty twenty four. It is currently eleven seventeen

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am Central Time, and I am coming to you live

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from the Theology Central studio located right here in Abilene, Texas.

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I think I have a plan, hopefully this will go well.

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So let me explain what's going on. I always like

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to I like to kind of give you the behind

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the scenes and how I have arrived at a specific

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subject or a specific topic. Why do I want to

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talk about this generation? Why do I want to talk

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about there is a generation? Because we're going to be

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looking up Proverbs chapter thirty, Proverbs Chapter thirty, versus eleven

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through seventeen, Proverbs Chapter thirty versus eleven through seventeen, And

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you're gonna see a phrase repeated a few times. Are

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you ready? Proverbs chapter thirty, start and verse. Starting in

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verse eleven, we read, there is a generation. Look at

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verse twelve, there is a generation. Look at verse thirteen,

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there is a generation. Look at verse fourteen, there is

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a generation. Okay, you see I'm not that clever, right,

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I see that. I'm like, okay, well, there is a generation,

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this generation. Okay, I can see some similarities how older

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generations say this generation, and here it's saying there is

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a generation. So we're gonna talk about it. Are you

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ready to read a little bit of this. Let's read

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a little bit of it, all right, are you ready?

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Here we go Proverbs verse eleven, There is a generation

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that curseth their father, and doth not bless their mother.

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Verse twelve. There is a generation that are pure in

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their own eyes, and yet is not washed from their filthiness.

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Verse thirteen. There is a generation, Oh, how lofty are

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their eyes, and their eyelids are lifted up. Verse fourteen,

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there is a generation whose teeth are as swords, and

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their jaw teeth as knives, to devour the poor from

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off the earth, and the needy from among men. The

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horse leech hath two daughters crying give give. There are

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three things that are never satisfied.

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YEA.

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Four things say not it is enough. The grave and

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the barren womb, the earth that is not filled with water,

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and the fire that saith not it is enough. Seventeen

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reads the eyes that mocketh at his father and despiseth

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to obey his mother. The ravens of the valleys shall

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pick it out, and the young eagles shall eat it. Wow,

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there's a lot going on in those verses. Proverbs thirty

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eleven through seventeen. I present these verses to you. Maybe

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you can make this the source of your meditation and

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your devotional time, Maybe your sermon listening maybe you can

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just spend time in Proverbs chapter thirty, verses eleven through

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seventeen over the next few days for the sermons two

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point oh app sermon challenge to look up sermons on

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Proverbs thirty verses eleven through seventeen. You may want to

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do that. So but how did I end up here?

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How did I end up in this section of scripture? Well,

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it's the sermon's two point oh app sermon Challenge. So

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I grabbed the app and I just started looking for

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random sermons and I found a sermon entitled Bible Study.

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And I'm like, okay, well, Bible Study. Do I really

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want to click on this because yesterday we had that

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one about the allegorical method of Bible study and a

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series on Bible study and that turned into a complete

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and total disaster. So I hit play, and as soon

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as it started playing, it said hey, Proverbs chapter thirty,

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verse eleven and started looking at this section. I'm like, well,

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you know what, I'm going to at least listen to

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this for a couple of seconds. So I started listening

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to it, figured out the text, then did my own work,

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my own research, my own study. I have probably four

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or five pages of notes, and guess what, that's what

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we're going to do. We are going to We're going

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to listen to this and then maybe go to my

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own notes. We're just going to kind of introduce all

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of this and this. I'm really liking this approach. You know.

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I find a sermon, I start listening to the very

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beginning of it. I get the text, I get the

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basic idea. I go to my own research. Then we

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come back to start the review. And if the review

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just goes crazy, if the review goes off the rails,

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I can stop it at any point and just go

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back to all of my notes and try to do

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something more productive with it. I like that because it

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gives me, you know, I listen for five minutes, maybe

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maybe ten minutes, get the basic idea, and then I

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go off and do my own study. So I'm kind

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of using sermons now really to just dig in more

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for my own than just relying on the sermons. Because

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some of the sermon reviews have gone so negatively. I

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like having something more positive to fall back on. So

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we will start this and get kind of a basic

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idea of where they're going. Maybe we'll end up staying

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with it. Maybe we will not. Maybe we'll get to

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all of my notes, maybe we will not. I don't

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know where we're gonna go, but we've got lots to do.

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So let's just see how far we can get. And

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we'll stop whenever I need to stop. Are you ready? Here?

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We Gomber thirty down around twelve and thirteen about these

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generations and says, there's a generation that are pure in

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their own eyes, and yet it's not washed from their filthiness.

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There is a generation old. How lofty are their eyes?

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Exclamation point? And their eye lids are lifted up? And

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I said, Sunday at the end, what ultimately, damn somebody

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is pride? I mean, they don't they think they're pure

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in their own eyes, self righteousness, They don't need a savior,

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they don't need to do anything about their sins. They

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justify all their sins and say that it's okay. Look

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at turn to Psalms one point thirty one. Then we're

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gonna go to Isaiah for a few minutes. This thing

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about being old, how lofty are their eyes? And that's

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the statement that's got to do with pride. Psalms one

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hundred and thirty one. David says, Lord, my heart is

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not haughty, nor mine eyes lofty. You see how that

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lofty eyes go along with the haughtiness. Neither do I

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exercise myself in great matters or things too high for me.

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He's not getting it over his head. He's not getting

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lifted up in pride and getting You see how I

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stay it humble, staying low, not getting into things it's

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too high for him, not trying to get in something

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over his head. He mentions their lofty eyes. Look at

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it again in Isaiah chapter number two Isaiah chap number two.

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It goes without saying, but I'll say it anyway. The

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Bible teaches humility, and the Bible teaches all through out it.

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What our problem is is ourself, you know, and our

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stinking pride, and even natural we're saved. We gotta be

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careful with it and stay and ki. You don't want

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God to humble you better if you humble yourself. I mean,

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just take this knowledge in and realize you're stuck on yourself. Amen,

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and just you know, get down and stayed down. Uh,

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Isaiah too, look at Bristomber eleven. The lofty looks of

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man shall be humbled. That's a promise from God said,

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he will humble you, and the haughtiness of men shall

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be bowed down, and the Lord alone shall be exalted

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in that day. I guess that's the problem. It's this

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competition going on. See, we we want, we wanna exalt

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ourself above the Lord. That was the devil's problem back

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now's there fourteen.

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Okay, So it looks like he's going to approach this

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by just focusing really on verse thirteen. There is a

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generation or how lofty are their eyes and their eyelids

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are lifted up. It seems like he's going to focus

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on the subject of pride, which is a very good

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subject to discuss. Right, and now he kind of made

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that phrase, well, even after you're saved, he kind of

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makes it like we kind of struggle with it. Let's

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just make it very clear, saved, unsaved, it does not matter.

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The sinful nature which you still possess even after salvation.

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The very essence of it is pride. The very essence

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of your nature is arrogance. The very essence of your

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nature is all about you. As I typically say, sin

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is the exaltation of the eye sin si, and it's

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the exaltation of the exultation of making us the center

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of everything. It's about me, me, me, me, me me,

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my wants, my desires. That's what we are in our essence.

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We're arrogant, self centered, prideful. That is what we are.

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And pride is a sin, and it's a sin in

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the church. Now, the thing is, you rarely see anyone

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getting in trouble for pride. Pride is one of the

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I mean, it's really the root of everything. It's the

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problem with everything. But we have a tendency to look

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at other sins and treat them as you know, these

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are the big ones. But pride really kind of we

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kind of overlook it. Now sometimes we will preach against it,

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but we still treat it radically different. And I think

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because you can kind of cover up pride, you maybe

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can make pride look good in certain ways. It may not,

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it doesn't look as scandalous as other sins. Now, let's

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see if he's just going to make this all about pride,

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or if he's gonna circle back and come back and

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put it in and you know, do something with the

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Proverbs thirty section, right, Is he just going to make

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this all about pride or is he going to go

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back to this phrase, there is a generation. There is

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a generation. There is a generation. There is a generation.

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Is he going to start talking about a generation or

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is he just going to focus on pride. If he's

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just gonna focus on pride, I'm going to then come

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back in and we're going to focus on this idea

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there is a generation, and we're gonna look on not

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there is a generation, but we're gonna look at the

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phrase this generation, and we'll talk about, well, that's the

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direction I want to go. I don't know which direction

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he's going to go, but we will see. Right here

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we go, Let's let's find.

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Out he's going to resolve himself above the throne of God.

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We were his children, you know that before we got

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born again, And that's that's in all of us. You

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gotta we got to hit to keep it down. Look

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at verse number twelve. For the day of the Lord

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of host shall be upon everyone that is proud and lofty,

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and upon everyone that is lifted up, and he should

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be brought low while we in Isaiah. Look at Isaiah five.

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Our proverb says, there is a generation. Oh, how lofty

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are their eyes? And their eyelids are lifted up. You

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are taught by this world that you are it self esteem.

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It's all about you.

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I think the reason you're taught that in this world

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is because it's what we are in our nature. Our

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nature is prideful, it's about exaltation of self. Therefore, the

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world simply reflects back what's inside of all of us.

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It's not so much that the world teaches us to

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be that we are already that the world is teaching

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what we all know. It's just reflecting what's inside of us.

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Is how I would. I would challenge that a little bit.

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It's not that we're taught to be that that's what

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we are. The teaching simply reflects what's inside all of us.

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You can do it, you know. And uh, that's totally

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opposite with the Bible teaches. The Bible teaches you ain't

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no good. You ain't no good. You understand, and you

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got to keep that thing in bout us. Man. I

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understand you need a certain amount of self esteem to

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make it through, but it's it should be leaning on

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God to get you through, not yourself. You see the difference,

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because somewhere in there you'll cross the line. It turns

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into pride and haughtiness and lofty eyes five fifteen. And

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the mean man shall be brought down, and the mighty

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man shall be humbled, and the eyes of the lofty

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shall be humbled. So the opposite of humility is these

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lofty eyes. One more time, Isaiah fifty seven. I've always

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thought this was interesting to know about the Lord. And

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he can do that because he is God. And this

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is why I say we're in competition with him with

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our pride, said Isaiah fifty seven. Fifteen. Thus say, if

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the high and lofty one, now we can't do that, well,

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God can one that inhabited eternity that is pretty high.

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to one day. But even then, God did it for you.

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Whose name is holy. I dwell in the high and

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holy place with him. Also, he's way up there high

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now as well you say it. But he also dwells

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with people that are of a contract and humble spirit,

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so he can respi he can revive the spirit of

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the humble and revive the heart of the contract. Once

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back to Proverbs thirty, don't forget there's a generation that

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is pure in their own eyes. Verse number twelve. You're

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you're there. People justify almost anything, any sin imaginable now

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and say it's say it's okay, pure in their own eyes,

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and they're not washing their filthiness.

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all right. So there is a generation and he's saying

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we are in that generation. That's what I was waiting for,

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This generation does this, This generation does it. This is

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just like just common language, all right, And we're gonna

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talk about this phenomenon because I think we need to

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discuss it. Let him go a little bit further. His

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style here is kind of very just very methodical and

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kind of very much calmer than I am, so but

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we'll let him just take this a little further. I

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knew at some point he was gonna say, hey, we're

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in that generation. I knew it was coming. If we

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were in Vegas, I would have put money down on it.

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just saying that's how sure I was that it was

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going to happen.

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And there's a generation there's full of pride. Version I'm

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a thirteen in that interest. That's verse thirteen. Yeah, look

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at fourteen. There's a generation whose teeth are as swords

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and their jaw teeth as knives. Well, what for to

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devour the poor from off the earth and the needy

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from among men? You could just read that and say, well,

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that's just metaphorically speaking, But uh, there is coming a

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time on the earth when men will eat poor folks

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with their teeth and with their jaws, just like that

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I'm trying to think, is he referencing something in Revelation?

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All right, okay, all right, let's see if he explains this.

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Just a few places. Look at Psalm's fourteen. Psalm's fourteen,

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coming through the Book of Proverbs, all thirty one chapters,

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there is just all kind of prophetic stuff in there

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about the tribulation the anti Christ. You know how we

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kept running across versus It says the wicked, the wicked,

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the wicked, And I could have run off and talked

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all bunch of stuff about the wicked being the devil,

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the Antichrist, and got your adoptal truth there. I've been

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coming through here, just trying to get a practical application

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that we can apply to ourselves. Okay, well, I guess

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we could do the same thing and Proverbs thirty fourteen

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and just get a practical application. But it's just pretty

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evident here. The thing is literal. Look at Songs fourteen

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when you put it with some other verses in the Bible.

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I'm just going to show you three and we'll move

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on Songs fourteen four Have all the workers of iniquity

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no knowledge? That's a good question. We're studying right now

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about add knowledge daily. I guess without it, you've become

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a worker of iniquity. And look what it says after.

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I'm a little perplexed. And where he's kind of going here.

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I had to look this up now according to AA,

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according to artificial intelligence, because I have it right here.

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It just makes it quick to look things up. AI

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says the Bible does not explicit teach that there will

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be a time when people will literally eat the poor. However,

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there are several passages where extreme oppression or exploitation of

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the poor is described in metaphorical terms, which must give rise,

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which might give rise to this interpretation. It makes a

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reference to Proverbs thirty fourteen right. It quotes Micah three

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verses one through three. Here, ye heads of Jacob and

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rulers of the House of Israel, is it not for

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you to know justice? You who hate the good and

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love the evil, who tear the skin from off my people,

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and their flesh from off their bones, who eat the

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flesh of my people, in flay their skin from off them,

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and break the bones in pieces, and chop them up

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like meat, and a pot, like flesh and a cauldron.

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not necessarily prophetic. Here the prophet Micah condemns the leaders

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of Israel for their oppression of the people. The language

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of eating is metaphorical, illustrating the extreme cruelty and injustice

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of its leaders. Then, so I'm fourteen four. I think

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where he's getting ready to go? Have all the workers

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of iniquity no knowledge? Who eat up my people as

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they eat bread, and call not upon the Lord? Again?

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The eating is a metaphor, So I yeah, I don't

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know where he I don't know where he's getting unless

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he's going to say that these metaphor are actually prophetic

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and it's not a metaphor. Now, now we get into

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an argument kind of we talked about allegorical you know,

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the allegorical method. Well, he's trying to go very literal,

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but is this metaphorical language? See it's you want to

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be literal, but if the language is a metaphor, you

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don't want to then take a metaphorical language and then

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make it literal. What do you what do you think

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about those passages? Do you think, well, one, are they

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speaking of something future? Or they seem to be describing

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something happening at that time? That's number one, he said,

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it's something that will happen. And number two, what would

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be your argument for making the language literal or making

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the language metaphorical? All right, so maybe maybe we'll come

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back to that. Let's see where he takes this. It's

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not exactly where I want to go with this, but

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that's the beauty of listening to sermons. That's why we

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listen to sermons, because we're confronted with ideas and concepts

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that we may not even be thinking about. So here

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I got the idea of proverbs thirty and I'm sitting

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here trying to take the passage apart outline it execute it,

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and he's what he's doing is kind of going from

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verse and just just doing them, finding phrases and then

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just doing random cruss referencing. Seems to be his approach.

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That who eat up my people as they eat bread,

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and call not upon the Lord. So there are some

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people that don't call on the Lord. They're workers of iniquity.

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they eat bread. Said, well, that's probably just metaphoric. I

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don't know. Look at Isaiah six, Isaiah six in the

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Bible when it says my people, who is that? That's

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Israel Isaiah sixth thirteen. But yet in it shall be

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a tenth, and it shall return and shall be eaten

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as a teal tree and as an oak whose substance

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is in them when they cast their leaves. So the

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holy seed shall be the substance thereof that holy seed

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is Israel. That's a child of Israel. And he's talking

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about he's talking about a tenth of those people returning,

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as this oak tree whose substances in them when they

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cast their leaves. Right now, the sap is going down,

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the trees. See, he says, the Holy seed shall be

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the substance thereof, it's the substance of those of those

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tenth right there, turned to Micah Micah, chapter number three.

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Then we'll go to revelations.

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going in completely different direction. My notes mine, I want

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to get into this generation discussion. We will, we may get,

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we may not get very far. I'm gonna let him

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take this and just I have to correct this. It's

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not revelations, it's revelation. It's the it's the revelation. It's

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not revelations. But that's okay. That maybe just be you know,

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a cultural thing. I say things sometimes very incorrectly because

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you know, being from West Texas, born and raised so

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I and just sometimes just not saying things correctly. So

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I'm not making a big deal out of It's just

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it's the Book of Revelation. It's not revelations, Okay, it's

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it's the revelation of Jesus Christ.

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going to be literally eaten. I don't know where he

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seems to be making it prophetic right, that there's coming

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a time that people are going to be eaten. I I,

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this is kind of interesting. I had no idea. Okay,

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this is kind of we we talked about the allegorical

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method and we got all fresh or at least I

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got all frustrated and the way that went down, and

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I thought we were gonna get all away from that.

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But now we're getting into a discussion at what point?

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So I think, well, we're good. Where's gonna where's this

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gonna go with this? We're gonna go with this. So

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here's really the question, how how do you know when

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language is metaphorical? And how do you know when language

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is to be taken literal? In the Bible? How can

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what what rules do you follow to go that's metaphorical,

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that's clearly not literal? Now, when when the passage talks

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about people being eaten? Do you when do you go

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that's metaphorical? When do you say that's literal? If if

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we go back and look at all of his cross references,

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and he's given a lot I haven't written all of

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these down. I'm kind of angry at myself. I shouldn't

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have been writing all of these down. Typically I have

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a notebook here in a pencil, but I got I

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got distracted because I thought this is going a completely

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different direction. So if someone can go back and the

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name of this sermon is Bible Study by Mike G. Marshall.

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Bible Study Mike G. Marshall, I think it was posted today.

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If someone can go back and get all of these

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cross references, that would be great. But yeah, I'm just

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I guess this just serves as a good example. And

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let's be very I'm not in any way insinuating anything

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negative about this person. He's reading the text and he's

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approaching it kind of arguing, well, I know everyone's going

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to say it's metaphorical, but what if it's not metaphorical.

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I mean, that's a good question to ask, But to me,

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the question is, how do we know when it's metaphorical

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and how do we not. There's got to be some

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rules that give us some kind of clue. Right, the

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person sitting in the pew who reads the Bible's got

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to be able to determine, oh, that's literal that's metaphorical.

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demonstration of how Christians can come to radically different conclusions.

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evil or just trying to change the Bible. No, this

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is real questions. So he's going to go to the

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Mica passage, which we've already read. Now, artificial intelligence is

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clearly it's convinced it's metaphorical. It's convinced it's metaphorical. But

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even Ai said, let me quote how AI stated it,

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that there are certain passages which might give rise to

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this interpretation of the Bible saying that people will be eaten. Right,

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that may give rise to it. And the passages he

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quoted as Proverbs thirty verse fourteen, which is what started

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all of this. And then Micah chapter three, verses one

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through three, and I saw im fourteen to four, which

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he just read. Now he's going to go to the

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Book of Revelation. That's where I was thinking, is there

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something in Revelation where it's going to go and there's

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a passage I I think maybe, but it's not about

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people eating people, is it or am I missing something? Well,

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let's go to the He's going to go to Micah

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chapter three, if you want to turn there, Let's see

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where this goes. He does this very interesting thing where

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he talks and he'll just stop for like a long

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period of time, a long period of time, just silence.

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So that's okay. I mean that's just again you listening

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to preaching. You hear different styles, different ways of communicating,

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which it can be fascinating from just a purely examining

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it from the technique that's being utilized to communicate. But okay,

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he's turning to Micah. He may be having a problem

462
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finding it. Sometimes that can happen. You think you know

463
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where a book is. Next thing, you're like you're turning

464
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and you're turning, and you're turning and your turn usually

465
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you will say something. But okay, all right, but he's

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he's in the minor prophets, he's in Micah. There it

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is all right. Chapter three. I mean, I've got the

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verse right here in front of me. I don't need

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to turn here, but all right, so here we go.

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Daniel Obah, Diah Jonah, Micah.

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That a way, Yeah, I think he was having trouble

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finding it for a second, and I just know that

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because someone is who's taught for so many years. Sometimes

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I'll be like, okay, there's even been times like I

475
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just can't find it for some reason. I don't know

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why what I do, and no one should ever be

477
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ashamed of doing this. I just flipped to the beginning

478
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right to the table of contents. Look, oh, there's the

479
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page number, and just go to the page number. The

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minute I realized, oh, I can't find it, I just

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flipped to the table of contents and go. I mean,

482
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I'm ninety nine percent of the time I find it.

483
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I mean, I've been reading a staying in the Bible forever,

484
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but there's always those times for some weird reason, and

485
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you're like, wait, where is this, And especially if you're

486
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standing in front of people, just flip to the table

487
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of contents real quick. It takes five seconds. And I

488
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think what preacher should do is tell everyone it's okay.

489
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I think what you should do is, hey, I can't

490
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find this right now, I'm going to go turn to

491
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the table of contents. He said, Well, that destroys your

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perception of authority. Who cares, We're real human beings, we're sinners.

493
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We're all trying to figure it out. Make people feel

494
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comfortable with turning to the table of Contents. It's not

495
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a bad thing if you need to use it, Okay,

496
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it's okay.

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Right.

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The key is everyone finding the passage. Who cares how

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you get there? Right? So all right, it's all right.

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But I'm not saying he was doing anything wrong there,

501
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just like I could tell something was going on. And

502
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then when he started going through the books to get

503
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there to me, was that's why there was that silence there?

504
00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:52.960
He was like, wait, where did where is where? Why

505
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am I missing it? And especially with the minor profits,

506
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you can just go right past it real quick, and

507
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then you go back and you pass it again. You're like,

508
00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:02.799
where is it? I know it's here? Who moved it

509
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:05.200
from my Bible? Where is it? And then you have

510
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to just start going. You's got to turn page by

511
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and there it is, there's Micah. All right, all right,

512
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So here we go.

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Michaeh three one, And I said, here, I pray you,

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old heads of Jacob and ye, princes of the House

515
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of Israel. Is it not for you to know judgment

516
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who hate the good and love the evil who pluck

517
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off their skin from off them, and their flesh from

518
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off their bones, who also eat the flesh of my people,

519
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and flay their skin from off them, and they break

520
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their bones and chop them in pieces, as for the pot,

521
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and as flesh within the cauldron. Then shall they cry

522
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to the Lord, But he will not hear them. He

523
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will even hide his face from them at that time,

524
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as they have behaved themselves ill in the doings. You

525
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see all stuff about eighting people. Yeah, it's gross, all right.

526
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So this is what we're gonna do. This is what

527
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we're gonna do. I'm gonna leave it right here. So

528
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what I want you to do, I'm gonna give you

529
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an assignment. I want you to go to. I want

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you to go to you see here, I'm going to

531
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go to these verses. I want you to go to

532
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Proverbs thirty. I want you to write these down Proverbs

533
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thirty fourteen Micah three verses one through three, Proverbs fourteen

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to four, where it seems to indicate the eating of people,

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the eating of their flesh, the ripping off their flesh.

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And what I want you to do is take those verses,

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do some more cross referencing and see if there's any

538
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other verses that seem to indicate the same concept. And

539
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then I want you to try. I want you to

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make a list of why should be taken metaphorically or

541
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why you shouldn't take it you should take it literally.

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I want you to make a determination why it should

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be metaphorical or why it should be literal, and then

544
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we will come back at some point, maybe today, and

545
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we will see what we can discover. I think that's

546
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what we'll do this way, a completely different direction. I

547
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wanted to get to this generation. That's how I even

548
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started it. This generation. Well, we can't get to this

549
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generation because we have well that generation. I don't know

550
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how old he is that generation. I don't know what

551
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generation he's part of. That generation saying that when we

552
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read these verses in the Bible about eating people, that

553
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it's not metaphorical, it's literal. Well, is it or isn't it.

554
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We'll figure that out and then we'll get to this

555
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generation discussion at a later time. Yeah, I'm going to

556
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I'm going to just stop it right there. I think

557
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that's a good place. Gives us an assignment, and we'll

558
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come back and we'll work on this. This kind of

559
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fell back into the allegorical metaphorical kind of discussion. I

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wanted to get to this generation. I have all of

561
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these notes about how this idea of the older generation

562
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criticizing the younger generation goes all the way back. So

563
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where did I trace it? All the way back to

564
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Socrates in ancient Greece, and then we have an ancient Egyptian,

565
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a three thousand year old Egyptian text which laments and

566
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I quote, how youth do not respect their elders and

567
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are filled with rebellion. So this idea that this generation

568
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is messed up goes all the way back to a

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three thousand year old Egyptian text saying that. So we

570
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will get to that. But now it's all about metaphorical

571
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language in regards to eating people. So you can consider

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that and we will see what we can do with that.

573
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All right, there you go. It kind of fell into

574
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a Bible study exercise. Now you start working on it,

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have a discussion. You can gather everyone around the kitchen

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table as you're getting ready to serve lunch and say

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hey to day's discussion. Does the Bible teach that people

578
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will eat people? Or does it not discuss all right,

579
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You could do okay? Is that is not? Is that

580
00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:14.599
not really appropriate? Okay, I'm sorry? Did I Did I

581
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offend somebody? But I mean that's that's what we're discussing.

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You may not want to do it around the dinner table,

583
00:37:19.679 --> 00:37:26.679
maybe after dinner, all right, but metaphor are literal. You decide,

584
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let me know what you find. Thanks for listening. We'll

585
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talk about this again soon and say what we can

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come up with. God bless