Dec. 12, 2024

Leave Demonic Status Alone

Leave Demonic Status Alone

A look at a demonic statue and people tearing it down

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A look at a demonic statue and people tearing it down

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Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is

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the Theology Central podcast, making Theology Central. Christians leave the

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demonic statues alone. Let me say it again, Christians leave

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the demonic statues alone. Now, if you are a new listener,

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you probably thinking I'm telling Christians, hey, stay away from

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demonic statues. Don't get near them, because you know you

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could get I don't know, a demon could then impact

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you or oppress you, or just stay away from demonic statues.

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Don't look at them, don't walk by them, stay far

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away from them. And I can understand if you are

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a new listener why you would think that, because most

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Christian podcasters, if they're talking about demonic statues, that's probably

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how they're going to approach the subject. Right. They are horrible,

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they shouldn't exist, they should be torn down, there should

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be a law against it. Don't get near them, don't

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look at them. But I can understand why you would

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think that that's what I would be implying. But well,

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if you listen to this podcast for a long time,

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you know I'm not saying that. You know I'm not

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saying anything like that. If I'm telling Christians to leave

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demonic statues alone. If you've been listening for a long time,

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you'll know that I'm saying something completely different. What I

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am saying is this, Christians, keep your hands off demonic statues.

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They're not your property. You have no right to destroy them.

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You have no right to knock them over, you have

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no right to tear them down. They are not your property.

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Keep your hands off of them. Now. I know immediately

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Christians are gonna get mad. Me going, how dare you?

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You're supporting demonic statues? What is wrong with you? This

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podcast is evil? Well, are you willing to at least

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listen to a discussion? Are you willing to at least

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talk about this? Because once again we have another story

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another demonic statues. Someone tears it down and the Christians

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are like yay, And I'm like, yeah, go figure, because

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I guess we can't. I don't know, take five seconds

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to think about this logically, philologically, philosophically, biblically, legally, okay,

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Like there's a lot of issues here. So are you

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willing to talk about I hope you are, but I

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guess first I should do this. Good morning everyone. It

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is Thursday, December the twelfth, twenty twenty four. It is

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currently ten forty five am Central Time, and I'm coming

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to you live from the Theology Central Studio located right

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here in Abilene, Texas. Do you like me making this

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just like unnecessary pauses for no particular reason? Is it

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for dramatic effect? Does it make it more dramatic if

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I say good morning everyone, welcome. It is Thursday, December

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the twelfth, twenty twenty four, and I'm coming to you

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live from If I know it probably sounds irritating, probably irritating,

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it probably is, all right, So so no delays, no pauses.

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Let's jump right in. First, Let's go to the story

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the hot off the press, Hot off the press. It's

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not that hot off the press, so the pages are

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not that hot. I know I've got the paper here.

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I don't actually have a printed copy of the article.

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This is just sound effect. But it was hot off

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the press yesterday, December the eleventh, twenty twenty four. Right.

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It was published at the Christianpost dot com. You can

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go look at it for yourself, the Christian Post. Do

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They're currently sixty seven comments underneath the article, and about

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sixty two of them drive me to the point of

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screaming my head off. Okay, maybe that's a little exaggeration.

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I don't know how many I have to go look

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at all of them now, but some of the early

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comments were really irritating, and some of the comments I've

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seen on other websites about this, well, that's what's led

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me to do this. So hot off the press. All right,

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about twenty four hours ago, maybe less than twenty four

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hours ago, the Christian Post published an article with this headline,

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Demonic statue destroyed within forty eight hours and then they

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haven't quotes Santa wouldn't do this now. I don't know

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where the Santa wouldn't do this comes from, but we

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have an idea. Now, this demonic statue, let's get a

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little bit of context. Here. There's a picture of it

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right here, there's a picture of it. The the the

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statue was at the New Hampshire State House in Concord,

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New Hampshire. It is adorned in a purple kind of

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stole what they call stole, emblazoned or with an inverted

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pentagram and goatshead as the T S T logo, as

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well as two inverted crosses. Now tst means the Satanic Temple.

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All right. It has an inverted pentagram, it has inverted crosses. Okay, Uh,

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the statue is of Baffo May if you want to

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say it that way. Now in English you can say

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at Baffo May or Baffomet right. I think I think, i've,

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I think i've. I don't can't remember how we've talked

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about this statue countless times, because it gets torn down

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anytime someone puts it up. I think I I think

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I have told everyone the correct way to say it

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is Baffo May, which it is. But but it is

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actually okay to say Baffomet if you want to see

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it that way. But the statue of Bafome I'm gonna

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go with that was put outside the New Hampshire State House,

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all right. It's adorned in a purple stole emblazoned with

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an inverted pentagram and a goat's head a TST which

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is a TST logo that's the Satanic temple, and it

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has two inverted crosses. So in other words, if you're

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outside the New Hampshire State House, you would look over

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and go, oh, now you may know that that's the

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statue of Baffome. You may know, but you would see

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the pentagram and the inverted crosses and go, that's satanic.

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All right, now you see it there, you're out with

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your kids. Let's go. Let's kids, let's go drive to

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the new Hampshire State House and let's walk around it. Okay, kid, Oh,

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there's a satanic statue. There's a demonic statue. What should

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we do, kids, Well, let's see what happens. The demonic

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statue erected near a Nativity scene. And just note the

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fact they call it a demonic statue. A clearly obviously

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knows that the Christian Post is publishing this article, not

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so much as a journalist, but they're publishing it obviously

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with a specific agenda. Mine they refer to it as demonic.

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I mean, that's obviously then they're coming at it from

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a Christian perspective and just saying this statue of Baffomey, No,

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it's the demonic one. Okay, but let's go with the

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idea that from a Christian perspective, we believe it's demonic,

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we believe it's satanic, we believe it's ungodly. All right,

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we'll go with that idea again. The article the demonic

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statue erected near a nativity scene. Please note there's a

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Nativity scene outside the New Hampshire State House. Hmm, there's

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a Nativity scene. Now, let me do a quick let

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me do a quick study. I bet you that most

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Christians are all cool with the Nativity scene being right

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there in front of the New Hampshire State House. They're

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probably all for it. They have no problem. If the

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Nativity scene is inside the state House, they have no problem.

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If the Nativity is in any public building, political building,

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they they're all for it. Put a Nativity scene everywhere

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because we want the message of Christ, We want the

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story of the birth of Christ to be seen everywhere.

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We are all for it. We want it everywhere. We

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don't want it and if anyone was to say no,

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it's prohibited, if someone was to tear it down, we

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would be like, this is taking away our religious freedom,

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this is persecution. How dare this? Oh no, what are

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we going to do? So? As Christians, we want the

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Nativity scene everywhere, and if anyone prohibits it, forbids it,

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or tears it down, we immediately perceive its attack upon

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our religious freedom. And we want religious freedom. Okay, we

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don't even need to do an extensive study. I know

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that's how most Christians think. So there's a Nativity scene,

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and somewhere near, as they said, near a Nativity scene,

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is the statue of Bafomet, again adorn in a purple stole,

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emblazoned with an inverted pentagram, a goat's head, which is

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the TST logo, as well as an inverted cross. All right,

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and the TST is the Satanic teple. I'm just gonna

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describe it multiple times. I have a picture of it

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right here before. Well, what happens happens to it? So

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they put it outside near the Nativity scene. I'm gonna

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continue to stress that they did so last Saturday, and

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it was destroyed Monday night, prompting an ongoing police investigation.

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Less than forty eight hours after it was put up.

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It was poor put up. Forty eight hours later, someone

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tore it down. Oh but the Nativity scene was okay.

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No tore that one down. No no, no, no no. The

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Nativity scene was okay. But they tore down the statue

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of Bafome. It had to go. So the Concord deputy

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police chief, he said, Santa wouldn't do this. Santa loves everybody. Okay,

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that's just a ridiculous statement. I don't even know why

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the sheriff is seeing something so foolish. What he should

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say is, whoever did this? It was wrong? But okay, well,

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immediately underneath that, I don't know who they got someone's

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social media account. I don't know who this person is.

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They got the little blue check that they pay why

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eight dollars, nine dollars a month, whatever they pay for.

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I don't know who this person is, but I guess

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there's someone important. And it says today's photos of the

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Satanic Temple's holiday display and concord and it's all broken

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into pieces, and they have all these laughing, crying emojis like, oh,

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isn't it funny? They tore it down? Ha ha. And if

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you follow that social media account, everybody's like, yeah, about

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that's good. I would tear it down. I would destroy it.

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And everyone seems to be celebrating that someone's property was

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destroyed and it's a great thing because they don't like it.

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Oh wow, you gotta love this mentality. Now you can

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already hear from my tone. I told you I don't

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have the typical take that most Christian pastors, churches or

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podcasts are going to take on this. I think it's

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utterly ridiculous that small minded people who live with fear

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and superstition tore down a statue because they disagree with it.

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The Satanic Temple continued its annual holiday tradition of erecting

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Satanic displays near Nativity scenes on government government property last

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weekend by unveiling a statue of the of the demon

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Betholmet at the New Hampshire State House. According to a

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live feed of the ceremony that aired on Facebook. Now,

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guess what the Satanic Temple's doing. Oh, you put a

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Nativity scene on government property. Well, then if there's if

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you can put a religious scene on government property, then

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you have to allow all religions. I mean, that's that

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just makes sense logically, That just makes sense legally. And

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guess who should be the most supportive of this. It

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should be Christians, not supportive of demons or Satan or

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the Satanic Temple, but supporting the freedom of other religions

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to be able to display things they want, because guess

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what if you don't support their freedom, you're not supporting

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your freedom. And this is I know This is so

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complicated for some Christian minds, But if you take away

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their freedom, you're ultimately taking away your freedom. If you

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want freedom, give freedom. If you want to lose freedom,

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restrict freedom. It's not that complicated. The statue depicted a

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black clad statue of baffle May with glowing eyes, clutching

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a bouquet of purple flowers in its right hand, symbolizing

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the state flower of New Hampshire. It was also adorned

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with a purple stole emblazoned with the inverted pentagram goat's

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head of the TST logo and two inverted crosses. Okay,

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I've already now described it now multiple times, but the

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article describes it multiple times. At the base of the

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statue was a tablet listing the seven tenants of the

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Satanic Temple, and to its left was a black and

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white Satanic flag, right, okay, which would make sense. They're

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going to have the basic tenets of Satan or of

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the Satanic Temple, and yeah, okay, but just remember it's

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it's it's just it's near the Nativity scene. Now, the

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minister of the tst's New Hampshire and Vermont Congregation, that's

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the uh the uh, what's the Satanic Temple? Right? The

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Satanic Temple? The New Hampshire and Vermont Congregation said during

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the life that the apple and the figures left hand

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symbolized our quest for knowledge, defiance in the face of

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arbitrary authority, and our commitment to self determination. Nice. In

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other words, it has symbols of different things that would

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be important to the overall tenets of the Satanic Temple.

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The Statue of Bafomey first appeared in writings during the

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eleventh century and featured in rituals of prominent occultists such

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as Alistair Crowley. It was destroyed Monday night, according to

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the The nh Journal or the New Hampshire Journal. The

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state Representative Ellen Reed, a Democrat from Newmarket who invited

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the display, claimed that symbols of Christianity were left at

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the scene. According to The Friendly Atheist, a sub stack

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maintained by the atheist. Hermit maintained by an atheist, and

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they give the name of the atheist. Sorry, so the

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so guess what so what they're trying to say there?

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I know I didn't read that correctly, But what are

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attempting to say? Is this the statue of Bafomet was

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torn down, the Nativity scene was left alone. No one

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touched the Nativity scene all right, And that was according

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to state Representative Ellen Reed, who's a Democrat who invited

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the display. Claimed that the symbols of Christianity were left

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at the scene, and this was also according to The

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I don't know how to say their name. I'm not

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even going to attempt to do so. Someone left a

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Santa hat, a cross and as a Christmas ornament on

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the statue, according to the New Hampshire Public Radio. So

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when they tore down the statue, someone left a Santa hat,

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a cross and a Christmas ornament. Oh boy. So Reid,

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who introduced legislation to strip God from the state oath

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of office and to ban circumcision from state medicaid coverage,

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appeared to be emotional as she was photographed picking up

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the remains of betho May and placing its legs and

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a car, according to photos published by New Age Journal. Now,

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I may not agree with all of what Reid wants

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to believe or what she's attempting to do. My point

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is this, the Christians who are celebrating the tearing down

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of this statue seem to be completely just not even

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thinking about this logically. Uh. They go on to say Reid,

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who described herself as agnostic, suggested that religious people were

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behind the vandalism and attacked them in comments to I

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guess that atheist and that sub set. She reportedly expressed

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sadness that whoever destroyed the statue couldnot tolerate a simple

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expression of belief by a group that doesn't believe as

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they do. The city of Concord released a statement last

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week noting that they approved the permit for the statue

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to avoid litigation. Of course, you can't say, hey, we

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can have this religious symbol, but we can't have that

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religious symbol. You can't do that.

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They go on, they talk a lot more here, and

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they talk about another Bafflemete statue being torn down somewhere else,

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and then we go on here. All right, So so yeah,

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basically it's a lot of people who are celebrating that

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it got torn down, and yay, yay, yay. Some of

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them quote Old Testament scriptures, of course, demonstrating a poor hermeneutic.

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So you get the idea. So here's what we're going

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to do. Let's just talk about this from a couple

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of different perspectives, right, this is not something that should

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take a long time. I think most I think most

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listeners to this podcast know my perspective on this, know

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my position. Right. I think this is just I think

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it's just childish. It's ridiculous, it's closed minded, it's it's superstitious,

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it's just foolish all the way around, and it just

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makes no sense. So let's just try to talk about this,

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all right. So the destruction of the beatho May statue

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near a Nativity scene outside the New Hampshire State House

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has elicited This is how one reported it, celebratory reactions

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from some Christians. Now that's how some people describe it.

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I say that endorsing such acts, endorsing celebrating the destruction

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of the Bafomet statue represents to me, it presents. Maybe

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not the word represents it presents, and it should present

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to everyone concerns from a logical, philosophical and philological perspective.

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Let's just look at it from a perspective. When Christians

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celebrate this, support this, or engage in the tearing down

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of Bafome or any other statue or religious symbol from

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another religion, you're basically being inconsistent and upholding free expression.

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See when you advocate for the removal of religious symbols,

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you're contradicting the principle of free expression. If Christians support

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the destruction of symbols from other beliefs, it undermines their

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position when defending the public display of their own Christian symbols.

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If you're going to argue the freedom of expression, and

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so Christians have a right to put a Nativity scene

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or put across or put the Ten Commandments, and you're

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going to defend that and defend that, defend that, then

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you'd better defend every other religion who wants to put

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up their symbols. If you want the freedom, give the freedom.

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If you don't want the freedom, take the freedom away.

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It's just simple, it's logical. It's not that complicated. Christians

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want to be able to like no to everyone else,

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yes to us. We do not live under a theocracy,

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nor should you want to. This is a Christian nationalistic

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idea that has become so prevalent in the minds of

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some Christians, and it's sickening and it's ridiculous. You think

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it's all great, Oh, we want a theocracy. Yeah, as

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long as your particular brand of Christianity is in charge.

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What happens if Catholics are in charge and decide that

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all Protestant churches need to close down. What happens? Of

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Mormons or Jovah's witnesses take over. What happens? Oh, if

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Christians lose power and then Muslims take over and they

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want to an Islamic theocracy, it never works. Well. Whenever

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there's any attempt to do that, people die and guess what, So,

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not only is it inconsistent, then you just set up

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an end higher scene for a potential of people retaliating

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and doing the same thing. So if you endorse the

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destruction of a non Christian symbol, you just set up

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a precedent leading to similar actions against Christian symbols. So

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this goes back and forth. We do it to them,

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they do it to us, and it just escalates tensions

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and it results in just a cycle of a back

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and forth. And what are you accomplishing that that way?

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Nobody is hearing the message of Christ. Or just seeing

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religious people fighting and tearing each other symbols down. That's

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a better argument for atheism than it is for anything else.

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inconsistent in the upholding of free expression, and it just

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leads to the potential of just retaliation and going back

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and forth, back and forth, back and forth, and it's

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just nobody is going to gain anything. But from a

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philosophical perspective, this becomes an erosion of pluralism. Celebrating the

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destruction of symbols from other belief systems undermines the values

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of pluralistic society, which thrives on the coexistence of diverse

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beliefs and practices. Now we may not look, we may

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not want pluralism from a like a purely theological perspective,

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a theological perspective, we believe there is one truth, one God,

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there's right and there's wrong. But for a society, you

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should embrace pluralism. As far as this is concerned, you

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want them to have freedom, you want them to have

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rights because you want to have freedom and rights. And

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unless you're going to try to force everyone to be

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Christian by some law or demand but you cannot force

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people to be Christian. You can force them to be

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Christian as some national identity, but you don't force conversion,

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you don't force salvation. We don't want the erosional pluralism.

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hey that we're in a pluralistic society, different beliefs, different backgrounds.

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an erosion of pluralism, it's a promotion of intolerance. Such

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actions foster and environment of intolerance where different viewpoints are

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not respected, leading to societal fragmentation and conflict. You just

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start fighting and fighting and fighting and fighting. Look, I

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can condemn your belief, I can speak against it, I

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can preach a counter belief, but at the same time

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I can be say we are to be tolerant of

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those we disagree with. And see, I think there was

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some person by the name of Jesus. Yeah, I think

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he's important in the Christian story. I don't know. Maybe

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I could be wrong, but I think the Jesus in

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the Bible says something about love your enemies, and from

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a theological perspective, it contradicts. It's a contradiction to Christian

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teaching on love and tolerance. Christianity emphasizes love, tolerance, and understanding.

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Celebrating the destruction of others religious symbols contradicts this very

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core teaching. Now if we look on it, if we

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look at it from a historical perspective, it is true

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that Christians have engaged in the destruction of pagan images,

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often viewing them as demonic. However, such actions have been

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reevaluated over time, recognizing the importance of respecting cultural and

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religious artifacts. It's a major problem now now for many Christians.

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It is ridiculous for Christians to celebrate and support the

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destruction of other people's property, other people's religious symbols, simply

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because we disagree with it and we think it's wrong.

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That is look you're setting if you if you support

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the destruction of Bafomet in front of a state house

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in New Hampshire, if you support that, well, then guess what,

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ladies and gentlemen, Then I support the destruction of Nativity

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scenes and tearing down of crosses and anything else that's

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Christian because you can't. You can't support one and then

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get mad when someone tears down our symbols. If you

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want your symbol on public property, and then guess what,

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other people have the same right, and you have to

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defend their right. If you want freedom, give freedom. If

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you want to take away freedom, lose your freedom. It's

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that simple. But for some weird reason, as soon as

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you say this, there's probably already emails showing up on

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my inbox. You need to read your Bible. You need

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to read your Bible. You're right. I've never read my Bible.

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I don't even know how to read. I can't stand

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that's Christian's always the go to if you disagree with

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them is because you haven't read your Bible, or maybe

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just maybe I have read my Bible countless times, and

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I understand that there's a major difference between the Old

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Testament and the New Testament for a lot of very

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logical reasons. So let's consider this. When we look at

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the Old Testament and we see them tearing down statues

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and killing people and all the things that occurred, we

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have to remember it was operating under really two governmental systems,

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a theocracy which we do not operate under, and they

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weren't even operating under it in the New Testament and

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a theocratic monarchy, and the Old Testament, Israel was a

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theocracy where God directly governed the nation and the people

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were bound to a covenant that demanded exclusive worship to Yahweh.

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Idolatry was seen as a direct violation of this covenant

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Exodus twenty three through four, Deuteronomy six thirteen through fifteen. Thus,

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tearing down idols and pagan altars were not only a

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spiritual act, but was a civic and national requirement. No

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one can deny that. But they were operating under a

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first a covenant that God made directly with the nation.

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All right, that's already unique. That's not the way it

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is for the United States of America, even though Americans

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want to pretend that it's not the case. God made

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a covenant with Israel and they were operating under a theocracy,

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and then they were operating under a theocratic monarchy. Leaders

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like Hazekiah Josiah were commanded or commended, i should say,

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for removing idols and pagan altars from the land. You

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see this a Second King's Chapter eighteen, Second King's Chapter

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twenty three. These actions were part of purging the nation

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to ensure covenantal faithfulness. This is all about the covenant.

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The covenant, the covenant God made with the nation. The

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land itself was considered holy and set apart for God.

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Deuteronomy seven five through six. The destruction of idols was

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about maintaining the sactty the sanctity of a theocratic kingdom.

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But when you get to the New Testament, I know

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this is going to come as a shock, you know,

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but you know, maybe only people who don't read see this.

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The New Testament is a completely different context. It's no

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longer a theocracy, not even a theocratic monarchy. Now you're

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very much in a pluralistic society. By the New Testament era,

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the Church existed within a pluralistic society. Under Roman rule.

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Christians were not called to establish a theocratic state, but

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to live as citizens of Heaven while engaging in the world.

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We are in it, but we are not of it.

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Our citizenship is in heaven a or we are strangers,

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we are pilgrims, We're just passing through. That's the New Testament.

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down statues and tear down temples and set up a theocracy.

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for that, the Apostles did not call for that. And

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if you look at the New Testament, there was an

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acknowledgment of idols, but no call to destroy them. Idols

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and pagan temples were everywhere in the Roman world, yet

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there is no record of Jesus or the Apostles calling

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for their destruction. Paul encountered idols and athens, but he

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did not seek to tear them down. He said he

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used them as an opportunity for dialogue preaching about the

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unknown God. We see this in Acts, chapter seventeen, verses

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twenty two to thirty one. He didn't say, tear this down,

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push it over, destroy it, and then take a selfie

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standing next to it. Oh, look at me. I knocked

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down someone else's property. I'm so godly. No, he didn't

456
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do that. He used it as an opportunity. Hey, everyone,

457
00:29:58.079 --> 00:30:01.799
see this statue of Bethome, Well, Befomet shows up in

458
00:30:01.839 --> 00:30:06.680
like the eleventh century. It was it's a false god.

459
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Someone made it, someone create put this together with their

460
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own hands. It can do nothing. It is it, it's it,

461
00:30:13.440 --> 00:30:17.119
it's it's powerless. But let me tell you about the

462
00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:21.960
God who created the heavens and the earth. You use

463
00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:25.119
it as an opportunity to preach, don't use it as

464
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an opportunity for vandalism and destruction and then act like

465
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you're somehow godly. The early Church was instructed to avoid idolatry,

466
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but not to destroy idols physically. Christians were called to

467
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spiritual separation, but not physical destruction. Spiritual separation, not physical destruction.

468
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See Christians, they want they want to ban it, they

469
00:30:51.720 --> 00:30:53.519
want to they want to burn it, they want to

470
00:30:53.599 --> 00:30:56.799
silence it. That's not the way it's supposed to work. Now,

471
00:30:56.839 --> 00:31:00.039
if you have an idol of your own and you

472
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:03.400
come out of Christianity, then you may want to destroy

473
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it to show your separation from it. But that's you

474
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:15.319
destroying your property. That's not you destroying someone else's property.

475
00:31:16.079 --> 00:31:19.799
The New Testament places emphasis on spiritual transformation and the

476
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tearing down of internal strongholds such as false beliefs and

477
00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:30.920
idolatrous desires. The battle against idolatry shifts from a physical

478
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to a spiritual one in the New Testament. It's not

479
00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:37.039
the physical idolist what's inside of us. And if the

480
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Old Testament teaches you anything that's the case, Israel would

481
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tear this down, destroy this, kill this person, do this,

482
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and they still continue to send over and over and

483
00:31:46.640 --> 00:31:49.599
over because the issue never was the external things, that

484
00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:51.759
was the thing inside their heart. I don't know how

485
00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:57.039
Christians can't catch onto that lesson. And then if you

486
00:31:57.079 --> 00:31:59.759
go to the New Testament, Christians are instructed to respect

487
00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:04.160
God authorities, even those that maintain pagan temples and rituals.

488
00:32:04.279 --> 00:32:06.759
We see this in Romans thirteen and one Peter two.

489
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The Old Testament's destruction of idols were tied to Israel's

490
00:32:14.279 --> 00:32:17.440
unique covenant relationship with God and its identity as a

491
00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:21.319
holy nation under a theocratic monarchy or just a pure theocracy.

492
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:26.319
The New Testament reflects the Church within a pluralistic and

493
00:32:26.359 --> 00:32:32.000
secular society, emphasizing spiritual transformation over physical confrontation. The Old

494
00:32:32.039 --> 00:32:34.960
Testament demanded a physical removal of idols, well, the New

495
00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:37.799
Testament calls Christians to focus on proclaiming the Gospel and

496
00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:43.480
addressing the idolatry of the heart. The distinction highlights the

497
00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:46.839
shift in God's covenant relationship with this people, and how

498
00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:50.440
the Church's role is fundamentally different from that of Israel

499
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:52.920
in the Old Testament. You know why the Church's role

500
00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:55.880
is fundamentally different than Israel in the Old Testament, because

501
00:32:55.920 --> 00:33:12.319
the Church isn't Israel. Shot King. I know. There you

502
00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:14.640
have it. I don't know what else to say, what

503
00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:17.599
else can be said? Now? In some ways I believe

504
00:33:17.599 --> 00:33:20.480
this is a her or hermoneutical issue more than anything. Now,

505
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:23.240
if I was to go to the comments underneath.

506
00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:38.160
This, uh, let's see you see here, I'm looking here.

507
00:33:38.200 --> 00:33:45.519
There's just a lot of things here. Okay, there's a

508
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:49.880
lot of people who've added all kinds of other stuff here. Oh,

509
00:33:49.920 --> 00:34:00.559
there are some people who stepped up saying this is ridiculous. Okay, man,

510
00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:09.039
there's a lot of craziness stuff here. Okay, there's just

511
00:34:09.079 --> 00:34:32.480
a lot of back and forth. See here, I'm looking. Okay,

512
00:34:33.480 --> 00:34:35.840
some people are just laughing about it. Some people quote

513
00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:42.519
first Samuel five one through four, where there's a there's

514
00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:54.480
a idol setup that falls down. Okay, so yeah, they

515
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So there's a bunch of comments here. I'm not going

516
00:34:56.760 --> 00:34:58.039
to read all of them. Like I said, there's like

517
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over probably getting close to set No. But so for

518
00:35:02.559 --> 00:35:04.800
the most part, there's a lot of people just sing

519
00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:07.800
a lot of ridiculous things. But if you follow the link,

520
00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:11.159
if you follow the link from the social media thing

521
00:35:11.199 --> 00:35:14.840
that they have here, you go to that, you almost

522
00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:17.639
all you get, just like like the very first comment

523
00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:21.880
praise God. Someone praises God for the destruction of someone

524
00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:30.639
else's property. Someone said, was meant for the trash anyway?

525
00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:33.800
Some person said indeed, someone said, the devil made me

526
00:35:33.880 --> 00:35:40.480
do it. Definitely. Uh so everyone's just mocking it, mocking it.

527
00:35:40.679 --> 00:35:45.320
You're happy, so amazing. Someone said, yeah, it definitely sends

528
00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:48.880
a message that we don't support hailing Satan. Oh yeah, woa.

529
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:51.480
So like it's all like yay, it's a good thing.

530
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:54.119
So the Christian post now their articles are I don't know,

531
00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:56.519
their comments are filled with all kinds of other stuff.

532
00:35:56.719 --> 00:35:59.719
But under the social media it's straight like, hey, this

533
00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:04.119
is awesome. There's nothing awesome about it. You destroyed someone

534
00:36:04.159 --> 00:36:07.559
else's property. What would you do if someone came in

535
00:36:07.639 --> 00:36:11.159
your property and tore down your cross, your Nativity scene?

536
00:36:11.480 --> 00:36:13.880
What would you do? Go to your church? Like you

537
00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:19.320
would be furious vandalism? This is wrong, call the cobs investigate, Oh,

538
00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:23.119
I'm being persecuted, but you support the persecution and destruction

539
00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:27.239
of someone else's religious symbols. It's ridiculous that Christians cannot

540
00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:32.000
see be on their own blind. I don't understand, They're

541
00:36:32.039 --> 00:36:34.599
just blind and to it. The good thing is there

542
00:36:34.599 --> 00:36:37.679
are some Christians who do understand, all right, but I

543
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:43.760
get furious at the ones who don't. And then there's support.

544
00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:46.920
As always, they quote some Old Testament passage so far

545
00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:50.039
out of context, no concept what they're doing. And it

546
00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:53.440
goes back to should Christians in the Bible? You know

547
00:36:53.559 --> 00:36:56.920
I can find a verse? Okay, well, great, congratulations, you

548
00:36:56.960 --> 00:37:01.400
have any idea what you're doing with the verse? Any idea?

549
00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:06.239
So please, Christians, leave the demonic statues alone. Just leave

550
00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:09.480
them alone. And if you're the one who wants to

551
00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:12.880
argue and find that you want Christian symbols on public

552
00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:16.119
property and public buildings, you want Nativity seeds, you want

553
00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:18.639
the Cross, you want the ten Commandment, you want it everywhere.

554
00:37:18.760 --> 00:37:20.960
You want the Bible in your public school, you want

555
00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:24.960
Christian symbols in your public school, then you better be

556
00:37:25.239 --> 00:37:30.159
prepared that the Satanic temple, Muslims and other religions have

557
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:35.480
the same right and the same freedom, and you better

558
00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:39.119
defend their right, and you better defend their freedom because

559
00:37:39.239 --> 00:37:43.519
we don't control the world, and we should not even

560
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:46.639
want to. This is not our home. We're supposed to

561
00:37:46.639 --> 00:37:48.800
be in it, but not of it. We're not supposed

562
00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:52.119
to be trying to take control of it. Preach Christ,

563
00:37:52.679 --> 00:38:01.599
don't be trying to control and censor everyone else. All right,

564
00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:08.119
there you go. I think I handled that really good.

565
00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:10.119
Hang on, let me I think there was one thing.

566
00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:16.159
Did I say one thing incorrect? Here? I kept using

567
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:19.480
the word emblazoned. That's it, okay, it's emblazoned, all right.

568
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:23.679
And when I was describing the uh, the baffo ma

569
00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:28.679
the statue, yeah, adorned in a purple stole and emblazoned

570
00:38:28.840 --> 00:38:32.119
right with an inverted pentagram and goat's head of the

571
00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:35.199
t ST logo, as well as two inverted crosses. It

572
00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:41.760
is emblazoned, all right. The word just wasn't emblazoned. That's

573
00:38:41.800 --> 00:38:44.000
the way. It doesn't sound like the right word, but

574
00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:49.000
it's that's the word, okay. I just like it would

575
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:51.559
I kiss. Maybe that's the right word. I don't know

576
00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:53.880
if that's the word I would use but okay. So

577
00:38:53.960 --> 00:38:56.079
I kept throwing me off, but I kept re reading it,

578
00:38:56.119 --> 00:38:57.760
and that's the only way I knew to say it.

579
00:38:57.840 --> 00:39:02.119
So but like I said, Baffo May, it is okay

580
00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:04.079
to stay baffle met. I may have said before that

581
00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:06.679
it wasn't okay, but I was listening. I was trying

582
00:39:06.679 --> 00:39:08.760
to make sure I had the pronunciation right, and it

583
00:39:08.840 --> 00:39:12.119
was like baffle May, but it could be baffle met,

584
00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:17.159
so it's not necessarily wrong, right, So all right, there

585
00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:19.360
you have it. I think I've corrected any mistakes I

586
00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:22.599
may have made. Well, I know this. Whatever mistakes I

587
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:29.079
have made in this broadcast, at least I'm not tearing

588
00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:36.079
down other people's property. That's I know. I'm really spiritual.

589
00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:39.039
Ladies and gentlemen. If I go out today and I

590
00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:43.039
see someone having a religious display that I don't like,

591
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:45.880
I can assure you I will not tear that down.

592
00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:49.760
I may commit fifteen other sins today, but I have

593
00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:53.519
no desire to tear anybody else's property down. And you

594
00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:56.079
know what I would do. If I was outside the

595
00:39:56.079 --> 00:39:59.239
New Hampshire State House and I saw someone trying to

596
00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:01.960
tear down the staff to a baffle May, I would

597
00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:07.599
defend it. I would defend it and say, no, you're not.

598
00:40:08.760 --> 00:40:10.679
You better call the cops because we're getting ready to

599
00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:13.800
have a confrontation. You're not going to touch someone else's property.

600
00:40:14.039 --> 00:40:16.800
You're not going to tear it down. Back off. I

601
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:18.840
don't care if you're a Christian. We're gonna be at

602
00:40:18.840 --> 00:40:22.039
odds with one another. It's not yours. Keep your stinking

603
00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:26.559
hands off of it. And he said, oh, you're defending Satan. No,

604
00:40:26.840 --> 00:40:32.639
I'm defending people's rights to have displays of something I

605
00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:38.599
disagree with. I would want I would hope an atheist,

606
00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:42.679
an agnostic, or someone from the Satanic temple would not

607
00:40:42.760 --> 00:40:46.440
allow someone to tear down a Nativity scene because they

608
00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:50.599
want freedom. They support my freedom. I want freedom. I

609
00:40:50.679 --> 00:40:55.719
support their freedom. That's not controversial, that's not radical. That's

610
00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:58.960
not like some wow, you have to go to seminary.

611
00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:02.039
That's like, I don't know, what is that old saying

612
00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:08.679
treat others the way you want to be treated? Is

613
00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:13.800
that really that complicated? Hey man, look someone's trying to

614
00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:16.599
tear down your statue. I'm standing here defending it. You

615
00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:18.679
probably should come out here. I want you to know

616
00:41:18.840 --> 00:41:21.880
I disagree with the entire thing. I disagree with Satanism.

617
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:24.760
I'm a Christian. I believe that there's one God, the

618
00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:26.880
True God, and I believe that there's a heaven and

619
00:41:26.920 --> 00:41:29.639
there's a Hell. I believe satan has been defeated by

620
00:41:29.639 --> 00:41:31.559
the work of Jesus Christ on the christ. I got

621
00:41:31.559 --> 00:41:34.880
no problems to stating what Christians believe and saying that's

622
00:41:34.880 --> 00:41:37.159
what I believe. But at the same time, man, I'm

623
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:42.119
gonna I'm not gonna let anyone tear down your statue

624
00:41:42.199 --> 00:41:47.079
because what didn't Paul say, what is an idol? It's useless,

625
00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:50.119
It's meaningless. Now I know someone saying, oh, oh a demon.

626
00:41:50.360 --> 00:41:52.519
If you get near it, a demon will jump out

627
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:56.280
and get on you. I'm not so into that approach,

628
00:41:58.519 --> 00:42:02.239
but you know what, then don't go look at it,

629
00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:09.719
don't walk by it. It's amazing how sometimes Christians can't

630
00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:11.519
just say, well, I just won't watch that, I just

631
00:42:11.559 --> 00:42:13.840
won't read that. But now we want to control what

632
00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:16.039
other people watch, what other people listen to, what other

633
00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:20.440
people read. I'll never understand that. But at the same time,

634
00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:23.760
we want them to be able to read the Bible

635
00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:28.440
in our Christian book. It's so weird. I'll never understand

636
00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:33.519
sometimes the Christian mentality some Christians, not all Christians. All right,

637
00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:39.239
thank you for listening. Everyone, have a great day. God

638
00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:39.639
bless