Aug. 21, 2024
Job 5:19 True or False?
We consider a devotional on Job 5:19
We consider a devotional on Job 5:19
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Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is
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the Theology Central podcast, Making Theology Central. Good afternoon, everyone,
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and I have a confession to make. Oh devotionals, Oh devotionals,
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How I love you and how I loathe you? Yes,
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this afternoon, I have to make a confession. I love devotionals,
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have one right here, and I loathe them. I have
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a love loathe relationship, a love hate relationship. Do you
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feel the same way about devotionals? Do you love them,
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do you loathe them? Or do you just kind of
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shrug your shoulders and like, I don't know what the
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big deal is about them. I don't use them. I
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don't know what your feelings are. I have a love
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hate relationship, and we're going to talk about why I
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have that love hate relationship. We're going to explore a
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devotional that I was looking at I don't know, early
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this morning, and well, we're going to talk about it.
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It sounds like a plan. Sound like a plan. Well,
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I guess I should probably give you a proper introduction.
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Good afternoon everyone. It is Wednesday, August the twenty first,
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twenty twenty four. It is currently one fifty pm Central Time,
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and I am coming to you live from the Theology
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Central Studio located right here in Abilene, Texas. And in
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this very studio there are stacks of devotionals. I have
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all kinds of devotionals. Yeah, I mean, you name it,
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I have them. I use devotionals all the time. And
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not only that, on all of my podcast apps I
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subscribed to. I don't even know how many different devotional podcasts.
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I don't even know. Some of them are five minutes long,
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some of them are ten minutes long, some of them
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are about fifteen minutes long. And they serve kind of
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like a daily devotional. So I have audio devotionals. I
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have devotionals in print. I have them and little booklets.
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I have them in full like large books where it
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covers an entire year devotional for every day of the year.
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You name it. I have looked at every I constantly
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will hear. Oh, this is the best devotional. No, this
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is the best devotional. Oh it's Morning and Evening by
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Charles Haddon Spurgeon. That's the best. Oh No, it's my
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Utmost for His Highest that's the best. Oh No, it's
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John MacArthur's. I can't remember what one of the devotional
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books he has written. There's a couple of volumes he
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has done. No, it's this one, it's this one, and
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everyone has what they think is this is the devotional
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that transformed my life. It changed my life. But so
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in one sense, I do love them. I love the
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idea that I can click on a podcast and get
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a five or ten minute little devotional thought so I
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have something to think about through the rest of the day.
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I love having something printed, you know, a booklet of
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some sort that I can carry with my Bible, and
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if I get a few minutes, I can open up
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the devotional and there it is. I can be given something.
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I love that idea, but I loathe what I think
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the devotional mindset has done to American evangelicalism and to
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American fundamentalism. I think what we have is we we
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have generations of Christians who think like devotionals. What do
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I mean by that? They think about the text of
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Scripture in a devotional type of way and a devotional mindset.
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They look at a verse and say, oh, this verse
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says this, or this verse says this to me, and
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this verse spoke to me, and this is what God
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said to me. Today They think of it in a
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very devotional mindset, and a devotional mindset is anathema. Devotional
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mindset is a cursed A devotional mindset is anathema to
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true biblical understanding. A devotional mindset is anathema to truly
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understanding the Bible. Or we could say this, a devotional
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mindset is anathema to biblical hermoneutics. If you truly care
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about biblical hermaeutics, if you truly care about proper Bible
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study methods, you know, devotionals are anathema. They are totally
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They are the annihilation of correct way of thinking. In fact,
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devotionals devotional mindset is the soil in which biblical misinterpretation
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is planted. A devotional mindset is the soil in which
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biblical misinterpretation is planted. It grows from that soil because
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everyone just likes this, Oh, okay, what's the devotional thought today? Okay,
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here's the scripture. Let me just read that, and then
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they just go away with that thought. And it's like, well,
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wait a minute, is that thought even truly accurate? Is
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that a correct use of that scripture? Is that a
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correct interpretation of that scripture? And I don't care how
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now I will say some are better in the devotionals
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that have their name attached and really being more careful
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and trying to be more and like what they tend
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to do. Some of them, well, they'll cover the same
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passage for like a week or two weeks, so that
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they can be much more exegetical, much much more placed
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in context. And those do much better. But other devotionals
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I don't do that. Well, here's the verse for today,
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and tomorrow's a completely different verse. They just jump around
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from verse to verse, from passage to passage, from chapter
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to chapter. And then the devotional thought in many cases
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is almost I think, anathema. Well it is to really
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understanding the text of scripture. And I think, and I
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think that that's a very damning and dangerous thing. But
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on the other hand, I love them. Give me a
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devotional and because here's my mindset, give me a devotional,
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no matter if the devotional is any good, no matter
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if the devotional is bad. When I open it up,
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what does it give me? It gives me a text
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of Scripture. In fact, let me look behind me. I'm
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getting up here. Right here, behind me, I have a
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devotional right here. Pathways to his presence a daily devotional. Now,
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this is a devotional for every day of the year.
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So I'm just gonna open it up. Here is February
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the eleventh scripture reading Colossians three, five through nine, key
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verse Romans five eight, Colossians three five through nine, Romans
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five to eight. Now, I don't even care what the
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devotional says at that point. What I'm going to do
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is I'm gonna go read Colossians three five through nine
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and Romans five eight one. I'm gonna see if is
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there any connection between the two. Then I'm just gonna
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start going. Okay, So what's going on in Romans chapter five? Okay,
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all right, what's the message here? How does verse eight
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fit into the overall message? Okay, what's going on in
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the Book of Colossians chapter three? Well, how does five
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and nine fit into the overall thing? And I'm just
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going to immediately utilize that as Okay, you're giving me
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a I see, the devotional is handing me a challenge,
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your challenge today, if you are your mission today, if
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you choose to accept it, is Colossians three five through nine,
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Romans five to eight. Go and then and then I
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already have so I don't even need the devotional at
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that point. Now, at some point I may read the devotional.
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In many cases, I'm like, what does I even have
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to do with Colossions three, five through nine. That's not
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what the text is saying, that's not what the chapter
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is about. And then but it gives me a starting point. Now,
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the problem is many people don't use it as a
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starting point. It's the beginning, it's the end. It's all
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right there and so and and and they will see
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it in a very like oh almost, uh, I think
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in a in a really poor way. The way they
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look at it there is just leads to such misunderstanding.
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And look, I'm not the only want to say this.
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This is one of those cases that many seminary professors
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have said these devotionals have literally destroyed the minds of
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young Christians and how to actually handle the text of scripture.
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They just see it as like, you know, oh, here's
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the verse. Oh God spoke to me today. This is
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what God said. And no, God's not he was speaking
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to Abraham. That's not about you, and what are you doing?
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And so even many seminary professors have been frustrated by this,
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and so I'm not the only one, and I wish
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more pastors would would condemn this way of thinking and
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try to get Christians to actually know how to engage
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the text. Now, the problem is, as a pastor, I
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also know the frustration. You can stand behind the pulpit,
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hour after hour teaching every known Bible study method you
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can come up with. Chapter summary, chapter analysis, biographical, topical, thematical.
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You can go. You can go from every time, you
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can go from every type of book, background, book survey,
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chapter seven, you can go. You can go through every
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Bible study methods you can think of, teach the methods,
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and then find out that no one will actually use
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the methods. They won't engage, they won't use them, They
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just refuse because they require work. A devotional takes five
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to ten minutes. An actual Bible study method may take hours,
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if not weeks, It could take months, depending on what
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you're doing. And they're like, no, no, no, no, no, just
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give me a little devotional. Just give me a little devotional.
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And many publishers have realized this. So then remember they
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like daily devotions, and it was five minute devotions. I
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even remember getting a book called one minute Devotions and
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it was all about, Hey, for people who are so busy,
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here's here's here's something that will get you into the
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word of go God. The only problem is that cannot
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be the beginning and the end. That little devotional is
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just the start. It should then lead to longer meditation
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and more work. But you can tell Christians who have
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a devotional mindset, and in many cases they're unskilled and
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actually handling the text. Now I say all of that
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because well, we're going to look at a devotional. We're
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going to look at what they did in the Book
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of Job, Job chapter five, Job chapter five. And I
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heard this devotional today on the sermon's two point Oh
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app are you ready? You want to hear it? Job
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chapter five. Now, if you need context, the person speaking
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in Job five is the person speaking in Job chapter four.
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Elephas Eliphaz is speaking in chapter five. If you know
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anything about the Book of Job, the Book of Job
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has well. Job is suffering horribly, and he has these friends,
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and these friends give these long sections of dialogue or
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almost like a speech, and they say all kinds of
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things to Job. Now do you go run to one
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of those speeches where his friends may be saying things
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that are accurate, or maybe saying things that are completely
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untrue and build a devotional off that I would be
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highly suspect, And well, let's see what happens. Here we go.
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Our devotional for today is entitled Deliverance not Limited. The
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text is Job, Chapter five and verse nineteen. He shall
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deliver thee in six troubles yay in seven. There shall
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no evil touch thee. Eliph as in this spoke the
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truth of God.
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Whoa okay, elafhas in this spoke the truth of God.
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Now what I always find it interesting is I've seen
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pastors deal with the Book of Job, and it's funny.
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Sometimes they'll say, elafas he was wrong here and wrong
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here and right, but he was right here. Now what
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determines if he's wrong and right? Now? They will say
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Scripture determines whether he's wrong or right. I say, the
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reality is you're determining if he's wrong or right. I
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just think all of his friend's speeches have to be
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considered problematic because most of their attempts are are their
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issue with Job. I mean, if you don't know the
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Book of Job, I mean simply Job is suffering. Why
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because well, God set the entire situation up. He says
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to Satan, have you considered my servant Job? And Satan's
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basically like, well, he worships you only because you protect
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him and you've blessed him. Let me, let me basically
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make him suffer and he will curse you. So guys like, okay,
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go ahead, Well, Job then suffers, people die. There's just
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there's physical pain, suffering. He's suffering, suffering, suffering, and his
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friends show up and nerve. The basic premise of his
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friends is you're suffering because you are a sinner. But
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the text he's not suffering because he's a sinner. He's
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suffering because, well, God set up some challenge with Satan
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and that's why he is suffering. All right, So but
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their whole premise is questionable from the very job, you're
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suffering because you sin, which seems to imply that everyone
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who suffers, you're suffering is because of some sin, and
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if you would just simply stop sinning, then you would
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stop suffering. So with that kind of basic premise in mind,
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when I read Job five nineteen and Eliphast says to Job,
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he shall deliver you in six troubles yay, in seven,
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no evil shall touch you. Wait, So how do we
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understand that they'll come a point where no evil will tell? Now,
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what is he trying to say to Job? What does
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elephas mean in light of Job's suffering? Is he simply saying, hey, Job,
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that all your suffering's going to stop? Is that simply
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what he's saying. Well, we'll consider at least another source
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on this, but let's see how this devotional handles it.
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Are you ready? Here we go. We'll start it over.
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Our devotional for today is entitled Deliverance not Limited. The
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text is Job, chapter five and verse nineteen. He shall
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deliver thee in six troubles, yay, in seven, there shall
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no evil touch thee. Eliph as in this spoke the
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truth of God. We may have as many troubles as
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the work days of the week, But the God who
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worked on those six days will work for us till
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our deliverance is complete. We shall rest with Him and
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in Him on our sabbath.
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Now I agree with that we may suffer every day
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of the week. Ultimately God will deliver us. Now I
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