April 1, 2025

Isaiah 3 vs Feminism

Isaiah 3 vs Feminism

A look at Isaiah 3 and how one sermon attempts to use it against feminism

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A look at Isaiah 3 and how one sermon attempts to use it against feminism

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Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is

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the Theology Central podcast making Theology Central. I am begging,

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I am pleading with someone to please explain to me

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what is the major disconnect between pastor standing behind pulpits

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and what the Book of Isaiah actually says. Why is

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there such a disconnect? Sermon after sermon after sermon that's

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preached on the Book of Isaiah has no actual connection

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to the words that are actually being used. Can someone

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explain to me what is going on? I don't get it,

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because here we are again today and once again I

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have my Bible open to the Book of Isaiah, where

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we have been opening over and over and over since

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what October of last year? I think October last year,

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and we've been looking at this and it is maddening

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at this point, like it's is it that complicated for

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a pastor simply to open say, everyone, open your Bibles

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to the Book of Isaiah, and guess what we're going

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to do today. We're going to actually study the Book

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of Isaiah based on the words that are actually used,

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and we're going to put them in their historical context,

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and we're not going to read things into it We're

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not going to force things into the text. We're gonna

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let the text speak for itself. I guess if you

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do that, everyone gets up and walks out of your church,

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going boom. We don't want to hear what the Book

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of Isaiah actually says. We want you to read things

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into it because that makes for better preaching. I don't know.

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I give up. I give up, But here we are

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not what I intended to do today. No no, no,

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no no. I have plenty of others. I have plenty

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of other things to work on, plenty of other things

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to do, other things that would prefer to do. But

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the Book of Isaiah. So in your Bibles to the

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Book of Isaiah. Go ahead. And if you don't have

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the Sermonadio app open or the Sermonadio website open, go

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ahead and open that because I'm going to have you

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look something up and I'm going to have you downloaded.

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All right. But before we do all of that, all right,

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I'm going to take a deep breath, ladies and gentlemen.

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Good afternoon. It is Tuesday, April the first, twenty twenty five.

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It is currently one one pm Central time, and I'm

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coming to you live from the Theology Central Studio located

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right here in Abilene, Texas. So here is how we

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have arrived at this very moment. Starting last year, I

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begin to notice that sermons on the Book of Isaiah,

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especially sermons somewhere between Isaiah chapter forty and fifty five,

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constantly took the text and for some weird reason, made

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it about us, made it about the church. And I'm like,

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Isaiah forty through fifty five is not about me, it's

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not about you, it's not about the church. It's not

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about us. It's about Judah and Babylonian captivity. And Isaiah

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forty through fifty five is the book of consolation. It

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is the book of comfort, bringing comfort to those and

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Babylonian captivity. That's what it is about. That's where we

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have to begin. So we started trying to correct it.

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We started trying to figure out where things went wrong.

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We traced it back to John Bunyan. We've done a

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lot of work and since then we've started our own

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verse by verse exegetical study of Isaiah forty through fifty five.

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We've made it to Isaiah chapter forty two, where on

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Sunday we spent two hours working on an observational outline,

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and we offered a completely new interpretation of Isaiah forty

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two that goes against pretty much everyone. But considering pretty

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much everyone doesn't handle Book of Isaiah correctly, then I

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don't know if I should even say, oh, we're offering

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a new interpretation. At this point, just trying to interpret

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interpret Isaiah. The Book of Isaiah correctly put you in

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the category of ooh, new, weird. You know, well, what

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is that that's unique? Now it's now unique, it's now weird,

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it's now considered. You're outside of the mainstream if you

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simply try to interpret the Book of Isaiah, I don't

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know anywhere remotely correctly. But okay, I won't get into

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all of that. But that's where this all started. Okay,

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So we've been working on working on it now today Tuesday, April.

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The first My goal here wasn't to sit down and

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talk about the Book of Isaiah, because we spent two

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hours doing that on Sunday. I needed to go talk about,

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you know, the believer's victory over sin. We need to

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get back to that that whole storms of life metaphor.

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We needed to get back to that study guide. Or

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we could take another trip back to Sale and do

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some work on Salem. So I have like three separate

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things I could work on. But I made the mistake. Oh,

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I made the mistake. I decided to look at my

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sermon audio app and I wanted to look at new sermons.

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A sermon that was published, I guess March the thirtieth,

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or that's when it was preached. I guess maybe it

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was uploaded today. I saw it in the new tab,

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all right. I saw it under the new sermon tab

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and I looked, and the first thing I saw was

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the title judgment on a feminist Nation. Judgment on a

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feminist Nation. I'm like, oh, I bet you. Someone obviously

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doesn't like feminism, and I'm assuming is going to now

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say that due to feminism, judgment is coming upon the

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United States of America. Now, I've only been told judgments

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coming upon the United States of America since I don't

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know the nineteen I don't know. It's over and over

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and over and over and over and over and over

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and over and over and over and over and over

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and over. Okay, we can get into that whole mindset

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of why preachers do that. But okay, so judgment on

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a feminist nation. So I'm like, all right, I bet

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you that's going to be somewhat political. It sounds like

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a sermon dealing with the culture wars. Do I even

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want to? And I got ready to scroll past it,

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and all of a sudden, I noticed underneath it it's from

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a series Old Testament prophets Isaiah, and I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait,

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wait wait wait Isaiah was speaking about judgment coming upon

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Israel upon Judah because they were a feminist nation? Or

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was Isaiah talking about judgment coming upon Babylon because they

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were a feminist nation? Wait? Wait, wait, time out and

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wait a minute. The term feminism wasn't even used at

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that time. Are we not reading something? Okay? Wait, how

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did we get to Isaiah? What is going on? So

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then I noticed the text was Isaiah Chapter three, and

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I'm like, wait, Isaiah chapter three is about judgment on

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a feminist nation. And I'm like, oh no, no, no, no,

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this can't be happening. So here's what I want you

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to do now. Typically, typically what I would do as

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I would I would say, okay, the sermon is available

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in the sermons, you know, the sermon audio app the

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sermon audio website. I have downloaded it, and we're going

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to just start the review. And at this point we

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would just jump in and start the review, but I'm

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not going to do it that way. I'm gonna I

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don't even know if I'm going to review the sermon,

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because here's what's going to happen most likely. And now,

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I did have artificial intelligence do a analysis of the transcript,

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and AI ripped it apart. AI ripped it apart. I mean,

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AI was like, this thing is a mess. It pointed

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out factual errors, historical errors, philological errors, errors in logic,

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hermeneutical errors. It, I mean, it probably pointed out I

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don't like twenty things wrong in the sermon. It. AI

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did not was not happy with the sermon. It was

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just like, this has got plenty of problems. So I'm like, well,

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if I review this, I've got to find a way

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to make this somewhat more profitable, right, something more profitable. Now,

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we may review it. We may review it, but here's

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where I would like to begin. First, I want you

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to go to the sermon audio app, and I want

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you to download it. Judgment on a Feminist Nation. Go

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download it right now. Download it I'm telling go download it.

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In fact, I'm looking at my screen right now, go

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download it? Right? Yes, okay, it looks like two of

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you have downloaded it. So thank you very much, two

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of you have downloaded it. I appreciate that. Okay. So,

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and I want you to listen to it on your own.

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I want you to draw your own conclusions, right, I

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want you to listen for yourself and I and look

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judgment on a feminist nation. I don't know if if

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men will hear it differently than women, so that'll be

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interesting to hear. Men may be like, yeah, judgment on

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a feminist nation, and women may be like, this is trash.

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Maybe it's going to be viewed differently by different genders.

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I don't know. To me, I don't care how men

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feel about it and how women feel about it. I

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care about how does the sermon line up with the

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actual text, because I'm baffled on how we're talking about

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judgment on a feminist nation based off Isaiah three. I'm

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just I don't get it. So, but you go listen

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to the sermon on your own, please. And I'm just

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I'm begging you go listen to the sermon, Okay, let's

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get them. I don't care if it gives them nine

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thousand downloads. Everyone go to the sermon audio website Sermon

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Audio app. Look for judgment on a feminist nation. It's

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from a series Old Testament profits Isaiah. It's from Foundation

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Baptist Church. Right, go download it, you review it, you

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analyze it, you critique it. We're going to back way

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up now we will talk about the title of the

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of the of the title of the sermon, because even

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even Ai had Ai even had problems with that. But

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here's what I intend to do over the next Ever,

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how long, right, are you ready? Here's what we're going

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to do. It seems that in the sermon, even though

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at the beginning of the sermon, he basically says to

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read Isaiah three one through eight, but it appears that

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somewhere in the sermon is focused or he begin he

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begins to use verse twelve Isaiah chapter three, verse twelve.

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As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women

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rule over them. Oh, my people, they which lead thee

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cause THEE to err and destroy the way of thy paths.

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Right now, here's the question. Is Isaiah chapter three, verse twelve,

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saying that Judah as for my people or Israel in general.

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Is this text saying that Israel or Judah is being

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judged due to feminism? Is Isaiah three twelve saying something

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about feminism? Does it have any and does it have

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any application to the culture war on feminism here in

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the United States of America? Does that have anything to do? Oh?

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I don't like this feminism. I hear feminism. Oh, women

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just need to shut up and stay in the kitchen

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and be barefoot pregnant and cook me and bring me

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in and cook me a mill and bring it to me.

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That is that what it's about? Is that? Is that

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what Isaiah three even? Is he even is it related

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to that in any way, shape or form. I'm going

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to put forth the hypotheses that Isaiah three to twelve

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is not implying that feminism as we understand it today

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is part of the reason for God's judgment. It's not

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even implying it. I will go so far to say

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it's not stating it, it's not implying it. It's not

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explicitly saying it. I just I don't I'm going to

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put forth the hypothesis that it's not true. Now, I

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just told you the sermon to go listen to for yourself, right,

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So you can go listen to them put forth their argument.

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All right. Just make sure you fact check everything said

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in the sermon, right. I won't go through all the issues,

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but you just just fact check everything, all right. So

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let's try to break this down. Let's just start with

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the concept feminism, right, because judgment on a feminist nation,

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that's the title of the sermon. So let's just start

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with the term feminism. Feminism is a modern concept. The

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term feminism typically is used to refer to a modern

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political and social movement for women's rights and equality, especially

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emerging from the nineteenth century onward. Isaiah Is writing in

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the eighth century BC and an ancient patriarchal society, the

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concept of modern feminism would have been unthinkable and non existent.

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Im Poorting it into the text is a form of anacharism,

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forcing modern categories into ancient texts, and that's a hermeneutical error.

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It's a form of anacharism where you take a modern idea,

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a modern category and you place it back into an

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ancient text. That's a hermeneutical error. We do not do that.

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You don't take this modern concept. Go oh, let me

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throw it in here. Oh now, now it's here. Now

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let's use this text to condemn this modern concept. Well,

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that text has nothing to do with that modern concept

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because the modern concept doesn't exist. That's an acharism. We

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don't do that. The text concern in Isaiah three is

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on corruption, not gender. The issue in Isaiah three is

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that those in leadership, regardless of who they are, are

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corrupt and unjust and leading people astray. I mean, look

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at the text as for my people, children are their oppressors?

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Does that just kind of ring a little weird? Children

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are their oppressors? Now, I know we want to read

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that into Look at children today, they're out of control.

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It's not about today. For crying out loud, Okay, what

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do you think is happening there? Just think about this

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reading that children are their oppressors and women rule over them. Oh,

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my people, they which lead the cause thee to err

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and destroy the way of the paths of thy paths.

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I'm sorry, not the paths of thy paths. I want

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to be accurate. What do you think is happening here? Well,

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I don't think the text is. It's not about gender.

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It's not about age. I think it's about corruption, all right.

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The issue in Isaiah three is that those in leadership,

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regardless of who they are, are corrupt unjustin leading people astray.

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I believe this is kind of my hypothesis that women

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and children are used symbolically to represent inversion and disorder

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in the cultural understanding of authority, not as a judgment

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on women or even feminism. The pivotal line in Isaiah

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three twelve is is they which lead thee cause THEE

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to err and destroy the way of thy paths. That's

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the pivotal line. That's the central issue. It is, uh,

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that's the central issue. False failed leadership. It's not based

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on the gender nor the age of the leadership. It's

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based off they're false they they are failed leaders. It's

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using this in a symbolic way. Obviously children are not

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actually oppressing them. That's obviously not being used in a

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very wooden, literal way. You see, the reasons for judgment

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are explicit and they're not gender based. Isaiah three and

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chapters one through five give a list of reasons for judgments.

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Let me let's go through some of them. Injustice and oppression,

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look at Isaiah chapter one, verse twenty three. Isaiah Chapter one,

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verse twenty three. Thy princes are rebellious and companions of thieves.

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Everyone loveth gifts, and followeth after rewards. They judge not

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the fatherless. Neither doth cause of the widow come unto them.

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The princes, not the princesses. The princes all right. So

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the problem here is injustice and oppression. Look at chapter three.

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into judgment with the ancients of his people and the

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princes thereof. For you have eaten up the vineyard. The

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spoil of the poor is in your house. What mean

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ye that ye beat beat my people to pieces and

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grind the faces of the poor? Saith the Lord, God

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of host One of the reasons for judgment is injustice

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and oppression. That's the issue, and that's the issue in

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a number of places. A second reason for judgment is

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pride and arrogance. Look at Isaiah chapter two. Isaiah chapter two.

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The lofty looks of man should be humbled, and the

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haughtiness of men should be bowed down, and the Lord

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alone should be exalted in that day. For the day

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of the Lord of Hosts shall be upon everyone that

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is proud and lofty, and upon everyone that is lifted

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up and should be brought low. These are the reasons

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for judgment, injustice and oppression, pride and arrogance. But hey,

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we're going to do a sermon, and we're going to

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take from this text. Look, it's feminism. How about Isaiah

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chapter two, verse eight. How about Isaiah chapter two, verse eight.

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Their land also is full of idols. They worship the

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works of their own hands, that which their own fingers

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have made. Oh wait, Oh, it's idolatry. So why is

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the reason for judgment in this section against Judah. Well,

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if we just take chapters one through five this context

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here where chapter three shows up right in the middle,

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it's injustice and oppression, it's pride and arrogance. It's idolatry.

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How about Isaiah three sixteen through twenty four. How about

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Isaiah three sixteen through twenty four. Moreover, the Lord said,

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because the daughters of Zion are haughty and walk with

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stretched forth necks and wanton eyes, walking and minting as

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they go and making a tinkling with their tinkling with

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their feet. Therefore the Lord will smite with a scab

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the crown of the head of the daughters of Zion,

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and the Lord will discover their secret parts. In that day,

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the Lord will take away the bravery of their tinkling

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ornaments about their feet, and their calls, and their round

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tires like the moon, the chains and the bracelets, and

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the mufflers, mufflers, the bonnets and ornaments of the legs,

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and the headbands, and the tablets, and the ear rings

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and the rings and the nose jewels, the changeable suits

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of apparel, and the mantles, and the wimples, and the

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crisping pins, the glasses and the fine linen, and the

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hoods and the veils. And it shall come to pass

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that instead of sweet smell there should be stink, and

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instead of a girdle a rent, and instead of of

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well set hair, baldness, and instead of a stomacher, a

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girding of sydcloth, and burning instead of beauty. All right,

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a lot of different words that we would have to

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look up to get the exact meaning, but you get

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the idea. What's going on here. He's going after them,

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judgments coming because of their luxury and their self indulgence,

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while the poor suffer and people are oppressed. Many of

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them set around and luxury and indulgence, and they have

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and they have and they want more. And it uses

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all of this type of ornament and different types of

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dress and jewelry to show that luxury. I've read through

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that very quickly in the King james US's terms that

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we would have to slow down and look up. But

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you can look at it any translation and get the

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basic idea, not about feminism, about luxury and self indulgence,

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all right. Isaiah chapter one, verse four. Isaiah chapter one,

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verse four, Awe sinful nation, a people laden with the iniquity,

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a seat of evildoers, children that are corruptors. They are

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forsaken the Lord. They have proved provoke the Holy One

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of Israel unto anger. They're gone away backward. Now, if

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you look at Isaiah one four through five, Isaiah five

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twenty four, they're being judged because of rejection of God's

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law and prophetic voice. So Isaiah three. And if you

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take up that section Isaiah one through five, they get

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a list of clear reasons for judgment and justice and oppression,

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pride and arrogance, idolatry, luxury and self indulgence, rejection, of

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God's law, rejection of the prophetic voice. Right, none of

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these are feminism. There's nothing here even resembling feminism. It

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has nothing to do with feminism. So why doesn't feminism

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fit the text? Even if someone personally opposes feminism, even

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if you hate it, you despise it, you think it,

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feminism as one of the greatest evils to ever fall

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upon the history of humankind. Using Isaiah three to argue

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that feminism brings judgment is philologically unsound. It attributes to

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God what he didn't say. It's textually unfaithful, it's twisting

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the context and harmoneutically irresponsible because it misleads others about

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what scripture actually teaches. The chapter is about spiritual rebellion,

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social and justice, and failed leadership. It's not about gender ideology.

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It's not about feminist it's not about feminism. So let's

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look at Isaiah three twelve. Now, we already kind of

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did a little bit in its broader context. Judah is

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going to be judged, and there's lots of reasons given.

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There's lots of reasons given. So let's look at Now

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let's kind of go ahead and once again try to

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set this up in a historical context. We kind of

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looked a little bit of its textual context, and we'll

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do that again. Let's try to just dig in so

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that we can try to understand this correctly. Now, I

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know at times I'm saying this in a very kind

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of dogmatic way, but let me make sure I'm trying

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to set forth at least an interpretive hypothesis that you're

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going to listen to the sermon and you may disagree

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with me, but I'm trying to give you all the

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context and trying to challenge this. Okay, So how about

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a historical context. Isaiah three is part of a larger unit,

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Isaiah one through five. That's why I was referencing Isaiah

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one through five and those things I was showing you

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that lists the reasons for judgment. Those are the reasons

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for judgment that are listed, and you could probably find more.

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So Isaiah three is a part of a larger unit

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that pronounces judgment on Judah and Jerusalem for their rebellion

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against God. The setting is eighth century BC, likely during

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the reigns of Issaiah, Jotham, AHAs and Hazekiah. The nation

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is marked by injustice, pride, idolatry, and a disregard for

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God's law. That's that's what the nation is marked by injustice, pride, idolatry,

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and a disregard for God's law. That's what I just

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went through the list showing you, and I gave you

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the text to even demonstrate that. So even if you

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want to try to argue something about feminism, by no

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means it's the sole reason, Okay, and not only that.

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Isaiah three twelve is not about feminism. God's response to

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this situation. Well, it's basically it's judgment. God says he

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will remove competent leadership and chaos and immaturity will rise

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in their care and their place. So when verse twelve

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says children are their oppressors, it's not literal children ruling.

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It is describing a breakdown of mature leadership and social order. Right,

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So I mean, just right there, you know you've got

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to stop and go. It's not literal children ruling over them.

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there's kind of the historical context. Jude is going to

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be judged. Where do that? What's that judgment ultimately amount

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to going into Babylonian Captivity, chapter thirty nine. Then you

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have forty through fifty five are the words of comfort

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to those in captivity. So let's break the verse down.

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the first down. Children are the oppressors. This seems to

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be metaphorical and or maybe a little bit of political imagery.

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Children here symbolizes rulers who are immature, in competent, or reckless,

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not necessarily biologically young. This reflects what was stated earlier

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in Isaiah three to four. I will make boys their princess,

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and infants shall rule over them. Right, there's the broader

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there's the broader context. Now women will rule over them.

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This has often been misinterpreted or misapplied. It is best

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understood not as a blanket condemnation of female leadership, but

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as a rhetorical parallel to the mention of children. So

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it's a rhetorical device being utilized here, children women, children women.

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In other words, the leadership is not in that culture.

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Children and women would not be in positions of leadership.

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That would be the concept. So something is the whole

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leadership is going to lead them astray? Right in this culture,

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women were not typically in positions of civil leadership. I

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think we could agree to that. So this is a

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way of saying, though who not equipped or intended to

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lead are doing so, it is a sign of societal breakdown.

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are royal mothers, uh if you if you compare Athalayah

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and Second King's eleven, who in times of national decline

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occasionally seized power. Right, that's Athaliah and Second King's eleven.

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that leads That will lead then to the last part. Right,

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They which lead the causes THEE to err or err

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and destroy the way of thy paths. This is the

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main clause. This is if you're reading Isaiah three twelve.

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This is the main clause. The leaders, whoever they are,

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are misleading the people. The emphasis is not so much

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on the gender or age of the leaders. It is

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on their corruption and their failure. That's Isaiah three twelve.

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As for my people, children are their oppressors. Women rule

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over them? Oh, my people, They which lead THEE cause

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THEE to err and destroy the way of the past.

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That's the key to the whole verse. It's not talking

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about Oh, you gotta focus on the age. You gotta

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focus on the gender. Now you focus on the fact

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that they're misleading you and destroying the path that you're

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supposed to be walking in. They're leading you into error.

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It's the they are the wrong kind of leader. They

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are leading you in error. It's not a statement about

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age and gender. The real indictment is not against women,

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but against a society where the natural order has understood

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and ancient Israel has collapsed due to their sin. This

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passage points to the consequences of rebellion and the need

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for righteous leadership, which in the broader prophetic and Messionic context,

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anticipates the coming of the righteous branch Isaiah four to

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two and Isaiah eleven one. Now, what is this passage

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not saying. It's not teaching that all female leadership is

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sinful or for forbidden. Scripture affirms women like Deborah, Hulda, Esther,

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Priscilla and leadership or influence. It's not a treaty, a

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treatise on gender roles. That's not Isaiah's point. His point

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is judgment on failed corrupt leadership, whoever it may be.

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It's not an endorsement for patriarchal dominance as a sign

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of righteousness. The emphasis is on God's righteous order, not

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on reinforcing human hierarchies. That's not what it's about. Isaiah

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three twelve. So I asked Ai give me a summary.

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I asked AI for a summary. And again, all of

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that I just gave you was my hermeneutical hypothesis. I'm

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not being dogmatic. I know i'm sounding dogmatic. I'm not

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trying to be I'm just trying to say, hey, here's

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a different way of looking at it. Go listen to

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the sermon and draw your own conclusion, and we will

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review the sermon at some point. Isaiah three twelve in context,

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is a poetic and prophetic description of societal or social

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and political collapse under divine judgment. The reference to children

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and women are symbolic of immature and disordered leadership, not

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an indictment of women themselves or a doctrinal stance against

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their leadership roles. Their real target is the corrupt leaders

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who mislead God's people. The emphasis is not on the

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identity of the leader's age or gender, but on the

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failure of leadership and the consequences of falling corrupt and

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competent or un goodly rulers. That is what it's about,

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all right. Isaiah's real concern is not ultimately about who

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is leading. It's about what kind of leadership is being provided?

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Is it destructive, deceptive, and spiritually ruin? Right, The descriptions

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children and women are simply literary devices. These terms function

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as symbols of societal disorder. Children immature women in this

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context is just showing a breakdown in normal order. It's

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not a statement on female capability or dignity. Right. So

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when you come to the title of discernment Judgment on

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Feminist Nation, I asked Ai, how should we understand this

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title judgment on Feminist Nation? Since the title is on

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a sermon based on Isaiah three. This is what Ai says.

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It's massively misleading, it's still logically inaccurate, and it's hermoneutically

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flawed for several reasons. Now, now I'm gonna use this.

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I'm gonna use specifically Ai for this, right because I

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had Ai. So I tried to help me, and AI

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went back and forth and try to formulate a hermeneutical hypothesis.

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So what I just spent thirty minutes giving you as

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my hermeneutical hypotheses. I had to do a lot of

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just reading it, but we tried to break it down,

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all right, So then that summary was all Ai, and

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then this is all AI, trying to make sure I

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draw the distinction as best as possible. But because I

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wanted AI like, what do you think about the sermon title?

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Because for me the sermon title itself, I didn't give

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it much thought until I saw, wait, this is on

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Isaiah three. Whoa whoa, whoa whah, whoa whoa whoah. Wait,

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that's not what this chapter is about, or not even

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what that verse is saying. So this is what AI says,

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it misrepresents the biblical passage. Isaiah three is not about feminism.

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The chapter addresses the judgment of Judah and Jerusalem for

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their rebellion against God and justice, suppression of the poor, idolatry,

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and social disorder. The mention of women ruling in Isaiah

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three is descriptive, It's not prescriptive. It's part of a

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broader poetic portrayal of societal collapse, not a doctrinal condemnation

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of female leadership. To label the chapter as a rebuke

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of feminism is to impose a modern political term onto

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an ancient prophetic text. This is a classic case of

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Isogesus reading into the text rather than Exegesus drawing from

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the text. So Ais already condemned this sermon for using

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anacharism and using is Jesus. All of those are hermeneutical errors. However,

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you watch how popular a sermon condemning feminism based off

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Isaiah three will be in the majority of churches. Ai

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goes on to say it reflects a political and cultural

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bias rather than a biblical message. The sermon turns Isaiah

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three into a culture war manifesto, using feminism as a

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scapegoat for national decline. No biblical definition of feminism is offered.

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There's no engagement with the fact that scripture includes godly, strong,

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and even leading women Debra Esther, ruth Lydia, Priscilla. The

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title leverages fear and blame rather than biblical clarity and

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gospel centered analysis. Next, it misidentifies the cause of judgment.

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According to Isaiah, Judah is judged because their tongue and

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their doings are against the Lord. They're arrogant, unjust, unrepentant.

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They oppress the poor, defy God's word, and walk in

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pride again. All of the things I said, I gave

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you a list of all the scriptures going from Isaiah

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one through five, and I didn't even do an extensive study.

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I just looked up things quickly. AI pulls up the

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same things. It just pulls all from chapter three. The

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title false narrows falsely narrows God's judgment to one social factor, feminism,

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while Isaiah speaks broadly and theologically about sin, rebellion, and

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covenant breaking. AI goes on to say the title misleads

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the listener. A person encountering the sermon title would expect

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an exegetical treatment of modern feminism and light of scripture,

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a careful philological critique of ideologies from a biblical worldview.

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What do they get? A sermon that equates female leadership

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with divine judgment without scriptural warrant, A blending of political commentary,

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conspiracy rhetoric all right, and it names a lot of

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things in the sermon. This distorts the hearer's understanding of

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the nature of God's judgment and the function of biblical prophecy.

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And then it says it undermines the gospel. By making

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feminism the central issue, it turns the problem of sin

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into a gender political critique, distracts from the core biblical

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message God's called a repentance trust in His mercy and

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righteousness through Christ alone. There is no redemptive hope for

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women or men, only condemnation based on external and cultural observations. Right,

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And it goes on to say a lot more. So

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I was left with hmm, Okay, this thing is a mess,

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all right, this thing is a mess. Isaiah three is

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not about this. And again, if you just read Isaiah

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three twelve, it's not the issue with the leadership is

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what they do. It's not. It's just showing that the

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leadership it's using a poetic wasting. The leadership is in capable.

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They're they're corrupt, they they're false, they're fraudulent, and they

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are leading you into error and they're basically destroying the

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right path. That's the point. So then I was just like, hmm,

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well does the Bible. I was just curious, does the

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Bible show a nation being judged because of feminism? Does

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the Bible warn that judgment will come due to feminism

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or anything like that? So I asked Ai Basically, hey,

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does the Bible show a nation being judged? Does it

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even warn that judgment will come due to feminism or

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anything like it? Right, Here's what AI does. First, it

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defines what feminism is, of course, which we've already defined.

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Feminism is a modern concept, not a Biblical one. It

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relates to social, political, and economic movements aimed at securing

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rights and equality for women. The first wave begin again

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in the nineteenth century of the suffrage property rights, followed

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by later waves focusing on workplace equality, reproductive rights, and

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gender identity. Because feminism is modern, post biblical phenomenon, it's

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never mentioned or directly addressed in Scripture Number two. What

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does the Bible actually say about national judgment? When God

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judges nations? And scripture, the reasons are clear and they

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are repeatedly stated. Here seems to be the real causes

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of judgment. Seeing across the Old Testament, everybody ready for

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number one? What do you think everybody should get? Number one? Idolatry?

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Everybody should get number two? In justice and oppression of

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the poor number three, violence and bloodshed number four, pride

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and arrogance number five, and morality and unrepentant thin those

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seems to be the ones mentioned over and over and

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over and over and over and over again. And remember though,

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the issue, and I cannot state this enough, whenever you're

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talking about Judah, are talking about Israel. You're talking either

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divided kingdom or them united as just Israel. You have

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to realize you're dealing with a nation that was under

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a specific covenant with God that said if you do this, great,

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If you don't do this, or if you do the right,

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then everything's great. If you do the wrong, everything's going

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to be bad. So much of the Old Testament is

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just that covenant concept playing out over and over and

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over again. You can't impose that concept on the United

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States of America or any other nation because we're not

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under that covenant. It's not even that complicated to figure out.

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And in the Bible, women in leadership doesn't seem to

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be presented as a reason for judgment Deborah Judges four

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through five. Deborah was a prophetess and judge of Israel,

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raised up by God to lead and deliver the nation.

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There is no condemnation of Deborah in the text. In fact,

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she's a hero of the faith and blessing to the people.

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Holda Huldah Holda was a prophetess consulted by King Josiah.

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Her prophecy led to national repentance and reform. Again, no

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hint of judgment due to her position at Second Kings

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twenty two. I believe you have Esther. Esther's bravery saved

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the Jewish people. She held great influence. Her leadership is

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depicted as an instrument to God's providential care. Nowhere are

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these women, or the men or nations around them, judged

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for their leadership or prominence. As we have discussed, some

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try to use verses like Isaiah three twelve to argue

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that women ruling is a curse, but that is miscle

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misreading the poetic language, ignoring the actual cause of judgment,

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and forcing modern political agenda into the text. Isaiah three

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point twelve is describing the collapse of wise leadership, not

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prescribing male only rule or condemning women and authority. Rather

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than warning against feminism. The Bible calls all people, men

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and women, to righteousness, justice, humility, and faithfulness. Leaders are

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judged by character and obedience, not their gender. So in conclusion,

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nowhere in scripture do we find a nation being judged

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for feminism, female leadership, or a woman having influence. Every

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time a nation is judged, the root causes are idolatry

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and justice, oppression, pride and morality, and a rejection of

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God's word. And I think in most cases when it's

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talking about the judgment upon Israel or Judah, it's because

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of a direct violation of the covenant which they are

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in with God and which they have. Certain things they're

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supposed to do and certain things are not supposed to do.

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If they do the right thing, they get blessing it

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they don't, they get the curse. That's the story of

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Israel in the Old Testament. Judgment judgment, judgment, judgment, because

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they cannot keep God's law, which is a philologically clear

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lesson that nobody can. And so that's why we need Christ,

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and that's why they there's going to be a new

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covenant made. A new covenant is made with Israel. So

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Isaiah three is not about feminism. It's not about that

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in any way, shape or form. Now did you go

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download the sermon? Did you? If you haven't, I'm doing okay.

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A couple of other of you have download the sermon.

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Look for the sermon Judgment on a feminist nation, all right,

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Foundation Baptist Church, you can listen to their approach. Now

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everything I've said, let me make it very clear. I've

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stated things in a dogmatic, assertive way. But I'm offering

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you a hypothesis, a hermita interpretive hypothesis that needs to

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be challenged and needs to be tested. That's what I

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have done. Now, AI does not like the sermon, all right.

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If I was to go and in fact, I can

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go back to AI. I didn't copy it. Let me

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see if I can find it. I gave AI the

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the transcript. Let me see if I can find it.

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It's a Is it all the way at the top

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because it's long? Okay, yes, all right? All right? So

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AI gives me one two three factual errors in the sermon,

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gives me one two three. Logical errors in the sermon,

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gives me one two three. Philological errors in the sermon.

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Gives me one two three hermeneutical errors in the sermon.

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All right. So it says this sermon contains significant interpretive, factual, logical,

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and philological problems. It misuses Isaiah three by applying it

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without a proper historical or theological boundary to modern America.

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It demonstrates gender bias under the guise of biblical fidelity,

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ignoring broader scriptural teaching. It leans heavily into political ideology,

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which may alienate hearers and blur the gospel message. So

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it had some serious problems with the sermon. Now that's AI.

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That's AI. Now you may say it it's it's logical. Well,

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I think typically AI is pretty good at finding logical

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errors because you have the logical fallacies. You can tell

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if a sermon's committing a logical fallacy. It's It's going

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to be hard for you to say AI is wrong,

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because it's going to get the factual errors usually pretty right.

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And it's also going to do very good pointing out

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it's uh, it's uh philological errors and it's hermaoneutical errors.

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I probably could ask it for more. There's a lot

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of errors. But now I will tell you to do

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this when you listen. Don't allow any logical error, don't

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allow any factual error. Don't allow any of that to

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stop you from seeing. Strip that all the way. Let

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me stay it this way. Strip all of that away,

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and at the end, see how they handle the text right.

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They can get they can make all of those mistakes

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and still be handling the text better than I am.

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All right, let's make that very clear. Just because a

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sermon has fifteen mistakes in it, when you strip away

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all of that at its very core, it could still

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be handling the text accurately, right, don't get that. So

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you could listen to a sermon and the guy the

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pastor mispronounces something seventy five different ways, gets this wrong,

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gets references wrong, confuses this with this, makes nine hundred mistakes.

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But when you strip it all away, they still handle

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the text correctly. All right. Don't ever allow those other

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mistakes to immediately condemn the way the text is being handled. Right.

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It comes down to how is the text being handled?

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Is Isaiah three about feminism? Isaiah three even indicating that

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Judah was judged because of feminism? Should feminism even come

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up as a word when you're teaching Isaiah three? Is

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Isaiah three twelve making an argument against you know, hey,

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you got to have be the right age, in the

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right gender to be in leadership. Or is it about

696
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the fact that these leaders are causing the people to

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error and destroy the way of his of God's paths?

698
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How should it be read. Now, what I want to

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do is start playing the sermons. Say what I want

700
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to do is this.

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It's Isaiah chapter three, on to read through verse eight here,

702
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just to give us a context of the passage as

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we continue looking at God's judgment upon a nation. Is

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Isaiah chapter three, Notice versus one and following for behold

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the Lord, the Lord of hosts.

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I want to just jump right into the sermon. You

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notice how low the volume is. That's even with me

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artificially amplifying it. What is the deal with pastors in

709
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that way they record their sermons? I don't get it. Okay,

710
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but all right, So but I'm not going to do

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that because I tried to work through that in a

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number of different ways. So what did we do. Let's

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go back and look at all the things we did.

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Here's what we did. We considered Isaiah three twelve and

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the chapter as a whole. And what we discovered is

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that we don't believe. I don't believe my hypotheses. It's

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not saying that Judah is being judged due to feminism,

718
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and I don't believe it's not even implying that feminism

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is a part of the reason for God's judgment. So

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we broke down feminism and we broke down the text

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is the text concern is corruption, not gender. We looked

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at the reasons for judgment are explicit and we talked

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about them and justice, suppression, pride, arrogance, idolatry, luxury, and

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self indulgence. The luxury section was all kinds of you know,

725
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descriptions of clothing and jewelry that I probably did not

726
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say everything correctly, but you get the basic idea and

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a rejection of God's law. None of these are feminism

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or anything resembling it. We talked about why feminism doesn't

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fit in the text, and we looked at a conclusion.

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We then went and looked at Isaiah three twelve and

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its historical context. We looked at its textual and we

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did a literary analysis of the text. We broke it

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down into three basically. We broke it down basically into

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three lines. Basically, children are the oppressors. Women rule over them.

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They which lead the cause thee to error and destroy

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the way of the paths. We broke it down into

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these three lines. We looked at the thiological and canonical

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context to some degree. We looked at what it's not saying.

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And then we basically continue to look at Isaiah three twelve,

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and we looked at the descriptions of children and women

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as literary devices. We looked at the philological message to

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some degree. A lot of this I went through really quick.

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Then we went through the title of the sermon itself.

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We talked about how it misrepresents the biblical passage. It

745
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reflects a political and cultural bias rather than a biblical message.

746
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It misidentifies the cause of judgment, It misleads the listener,

747
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and it undermines the gospel. And then we looked at

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in the Bible is anywhere, like, Hey, you're all being

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judged because of feminism. You got that woman over there

750
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in leadership. That's the end. And I heard Christians say this,

751
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if Hillary gets elected, it's the end of America because

752
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God will judge a nation with a woman president. It's

753
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against God's Where's Oh? I heard that over and over

754
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and over. We can't have a woman president because it's

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against God's wheer's we'll all go to hell. It's the end. Okay,

756
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all of this just cons drives me crazy. So we

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broke it all down so that at least you have

758
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a better understanding of Isaiah three twelve. I wanted to

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get to the sermon, but what I've done so I

760
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flipped it in reverse. Typically we would do all of

761
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this after we review the sermon, or in the midst

762
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of reviewing the sermon. I decided, no, why sit there

763
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and review the sermon, get frustrated and get irritated. I

764
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just will go ahead and kind of give you my

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take on it. And I've already pointed out AI's take

766
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on it. AI completely rips it into shreds. And and

767
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I know some of you are like, well, give him

768
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one of your sermons I gave. I gave Ai my

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sermon from Sunday. I gave A. I do I give

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Ai my messages all the time, all the time, and

771
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tell me it will rip mine apart too if it

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if it doesn't like it, and I tell it to

773
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be to be, to be aggressive, mean, nasty, tell me

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I'm an idiot. I can take it all right, So

775
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don't don't think I don't so, because when after we

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gave our kind of new interpretation of Isaiah forty two,

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I gave Ai to critique it in AI. Well, in

778
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that particular case, thought that what we did was pretty impressive.

779
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So and again that whole interpretation we did in Isaiah

780
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forty two is because of someone in the church, not

781
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necessarily because of me. They just handed it to me

782
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and I ran with it. So yeah, the issue is

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is I to me, the real issue is it's not

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even about what you think about feminism. So where everyone's

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going to miss the point? They're like, oh, you're supporting feminism.

786
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The issue isn't feminism. The issue is Isaiah three. Isaiah three.

787
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In fact, the very first thing Ai says, you want

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to hear, the very first thing, Ai says, I could

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play the audio of this, but here we go. Ai says,

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the Fall of Judah five eighty six BC is referenced

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as a precise template for interpreting modern America. While moral

792
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parallels are often made in preaching, drawing a one to

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one historical equivalence is problematic. America is not a covenant

794
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nation like Israel and is never mentioned in scripture. So

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the first factual error, or one of the factual errors

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the Ai mentioned, is that this sermon is historical misapplication.

797
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It goes on to say, a misapplication of covenant theology.

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The preacher implies America holds a similar covenant status before

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God is ancient Israel that is not supported by scripture.

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No New Testament teaching suggests any modern nation inherits Israel's

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covenantal standing. And it goes on to say that it

802
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over allegorizes and modernizes the text. Isaiah's message is historic

803
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and prophetic concerning Judah. Applying every detail to contemporary America

804
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economic policy, political parties, and women mayors distorts the original

805
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context and intention. Not only that the preacher reads personal

806
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and political views into the passage, particularly around feminism, COVID restrictions,

807
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and economic theory, rather than drawing meaning from the text itself.

808
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And then it goes on it missueses Isaiah three by

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applying it without proper historical or theological boundaries to a

810
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modern America. It's about that. I don't care if the

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if the person wants to yell and scream about oh,

812
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women mayors, there's there are mayors in this country that

813
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are women. Oh my goodness, we're in trouble. I know

814
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we can't have a can't have a female mayor. Nope,

815
00:53:26.599 --> 00:53:28.239
can't have a female governor. I guess we can have

816
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a female center. We can't have females in leadership. Make

817
00:53:32.039 --> 00:53:40.440
them all shut up and go home. Oh man, unbelievable, unbelievable.

818
00:53:41.119 --> 00:53:44.280
But you listen to the sermon yourself. You listen again,

819
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I am begging you to go listen to the sermon yourself.

820
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You draw your own conclusion. Don't take it. I'm I'm

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just trying to take a part. How Ai breaks it down,

822
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But I'm trying to get you. And again, see that's

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one of the reasons I'm already doing it. One of

824
00:53:56.920 --> 00:53:58.880
the reasons that did not want to review the sermon

825
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is because that's exactly what would happen. I just made

826
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the mistake. I took the bait. See AI points out

827
00:54:05.519 --> 00:54:07.119
some of the things that says, and I just start, Oh,

828
00:54:07.159 --> 00:54:09.960
we're going to talk about stinking COVID restrictions again, Oh

829
00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:13.360
my goodness, the World Economic Form and we're gonna go

830
00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:16.039
conspiracy theories. Are we going to talk about Charles Swab

831
00:54:16.159 --> 00:54:17.920
and all this? I mean, it's going to sound like

832
00:54:17.960 --> 00:54:20.119
an episode of Alex Jones. See, I would get so

833
00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:22.400
caught up in all of that, just lose my ever

834
00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:25.519
living mind of how pastors do this nonsense from the

835
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pulpit And then guess what you would miss, you would

836
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miss an actual explanation of Isaiah chapter three. That's why

837
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I started with Isaiah three and didn't review the sermon,

838
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because it would sound like I'm reviewing an episode of

839
00:54:39.719 --> 00:54:42.679
Alex Jones for the most part, and I don't care

840
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to get into all of that. People want to argue

841
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all day COVID restrictions in the World Economic Form the

842
00:54:48.679 --> 00:54:50.840
world because I think the I think the sermon actually

843
00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:53.079
mentions the World Economic form according to AI. Let me

844
00:54:53.119 --> 00:54:59.800
look here, yes, the World Economic Form. It makes statements

845
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like Putin was a WEF World Economic Form young global leader.

846
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That this is often repeated in conspiracy circles but not

847
00:55:07.440 --> 00:55:12.639
verifiable through WEF or World Economic Form records. Some listed names,

848
00:55:12.719 --> 00:55:17.480
Bill Gates, Angela Merkle are not confirmed alumni of this

849
00:55:17.559 --> 00:55:19.719
specific program, so it has to go through all these

850
00:55:19.800 --> 00:55:23.679
claims that are made. Talks about Trump's business records again,

851
00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:28.440
talks about COVID restrictions female mayors, Like, No, if I

852
00:55:28.519 --> 00:55:32.280
get into that, we'll never get to Isaiah three. I

853
00:55:32.320 --> 00:55:34.840
don't care about any of that. I don't care. I

854
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don't care if the man who doesn't want a woman

855
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to ever leave the house, and that she can't lead anything.

856
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I don't care. I really don't care that you guys

857
00:55:43.239 --> 00:55:46.679
fight that. What I care is using Isaiah three in

858
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a proper way. That's what I care about. As far

859
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as this message. I'm not saying I don't care about

860
00:55:51.719 --> 00:55:54.159
those other issues in the right context, and may have

861
00:55:54.360 --> 00:55:57.320
strong arguments against some of that kind of crazy thinking,

862
00:55:57.480 --> 00:56:01.079
but I just care about people the Book of Isaiah,

863
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stop misreading it. And it's not about stinking America, man,

864
00:56:08.760 --> 00:56:15.679
so tired of that. It's about Judah. Why do they

865
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get judged the way they do because they're in a

866
00:56:17.960 --> 00:56:23.000
covenant relationship with God, a specific covenant with specific rules

867
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and specific instructions and specific blessings and specific punishments assigned

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00:56:27.360 --> 00:56:34.039
to them. It can't transfer that to America, man, I

869
00:56:34.079 --> 00:56:38.679
don't understand that. If Christians can't figure that out, you

870
00:56:38.760 --> 00:56:41.920
know what, then that means the entire seminary industrial complex

871
00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:45.360
is a failure. Bible colleges are a failure, Bible institutes

872
00:56:45.360 --> 00:56:50.400
are a failure, and churches are a failure. There were

873
00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:52.559
a better chance of never going to church, never going

874
00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:55.119
to Bible college, never going to seminary, and never reading

875
00:56:55.159 --> 00:56:59.559
a commentary and just learn how to read the Bible. Yeah,

876
00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:05.920
just mad over it. That's what I was trying to avoid.

877
00:57:06.280 --> 00:57:08.679
But what did I just do at the fifty three

878
00:57:08.760 --> 00:57:11.360
minute mark? I took the bait? Did I not? I

879
00:57:11.480 --> 00:57:20.039
took the bait. I was trying to avoid that. And

880
00:57:20.119 --> 00:57:23.599
we see this and within Christian literature that go to

881
00:57:23.719 --> 00:57:27.920
Isaiah and you know, oh, nine to eleven, it's September

882
00:57:27.960 --> 00:57:29.639
the eleventh, two thousand and one. It's in the Book

883
00:57:29.639 --> 00:57:32.800
of Isaiah. Whitn't that the harbinger did that? Nonsense? Oh? Look,

884
00:57:33.000 --> 00:57:36.519
Isaiah's telling us what's coming to America. What's coming? Isaiah's

885
00:57:36.559 --> 00:57:46.719
not about America. Oh, but there's parallels. Even if there's parallels,

886
00:57:47.159 --> 00:57:50.199
what's happening in there to Judah is based off the

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Covenant relationship. Now I'm just repeating myself because I'm trying

888
00:57:54.840 --> 00:57:57.119
to repeat myself in a calmer way to say, see,

889
00:57:57.159 --> 00:57:59.599
he calmed down. But it's just at some point you

890
00:57:59.679 --> 00:58:02.599
just get so it's just like, what's the point anymore?

891
00:58:04.280 --> 00:58:06.679
I'm telling It's like it's like yelling at a brick wall.

892
00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:11.639
Never going to change. I'm never gonna change it. I'm

893
00:58:11.679 --> 00:58:13.880
never I'm not gonna make any impact on it. I'm

894
00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:17.519
telling you. The more i'm the more sermons I listen to,

895
00:58:17.800 --> 00:58:20.639
and the more sermons I engage, the more I realize

896
00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:24.280
that there is no point in doing Christian broadcasting. There's

897
00:58:24.320 --> 00:58:27.880
no point in preaching sermons. There's no point because you

898
00:58:28.440 --> 00:58:32.280
Christianity is what Christianity is, and there is no fixing it,

899
00:58:32.480 --> 00:58:42.360
changing it, or impacting it. It's just maddening. And this

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Isaiah thing is driving me. Man who knew that in

901
00:58:46.000 --> 00:58:50.280
what October of twenty twenty four that just thinking about

902
00:58:50.360 --> 00:58:52.639
talking about some things that Isaiah was going to lead

903
00:58:52.679 --> 00:58:55.599
to all of this. Now we're in April and it

904
00:58:55.760 --> 00:59:01.360
just doesn't stop. All Right, I give up. I quit.

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Thanks for listening, everyone, have a great day. I'm retiring.

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This is the end of the Theology Central broadcasts or

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in the Theology Central podcast. All content will probably be

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deleted in the next i don't know, a couple of hours.

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Thanks for listening. God bless