Oct. 20, 2024

Interpreting Joshua

Interpreting Joshua

A discussion about biblical interpretation

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A discussion about biblical interpretation

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Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is

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the Theology Central podcast, making Theology Central. Good evening everyone.

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It is Saturday, October nineteenth, twenty twenty four. It is

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currently six fifty pm Central Time, and I am coming

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to you live from the Theology Central studio located right

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here in Abilene, Texas.

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Well.

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It's Saturday evening, so we all know what that means, right,

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It means tomorrow morning, people all across the United States

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of America. I'll focus on America and I'm not going

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to get into all the other countries in your time zones,

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but here in the United States of America, tomorrow morning,

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people all across this country will wake up. They will

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get ready, they will have a breakfast. They will have breakfast.

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They will have a breakfast. They will have breakfast. They

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will grab their Bible, hopefully a notebook, something to write with.

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They'll get everyone in the car and they will drive

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to a church. They will drive to a place of worship,

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a church, and they will drive to churches that will

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say and that will believe something like this. The Bible

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is the an errant inspired Word of God. It is

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the sole authority we believe in sola scriptorrah scripture alone.

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The Word of God is the authority, not us. It

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is the Bible that is the authority. Then they will

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open the Bible and someone will preach from it. They

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will tell you that they are exegeating the text. They

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will tell you they're interpreting the text. They will tell

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you they're rightly dividing the word of truth. They will

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tell you that they are handling the Word of God

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the correct way, and that they and they may even

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criticize the way other people handle the Word of God.

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But they're going to preach and they're going to teach,

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and they're going to tell you that what they're preaching

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and teaching, they're going it's they're going to do it

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in a very dogmatic way, a very authoritative way, as

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if what they are saying is true, as if their

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interpretation is right. But they're going to keep telling you

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that the Bible is the authority. The Bible is the authority. Now,

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that's going to be happening in churches all across the

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United States of America. But what will be utterly fascinating

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if you just step you know, if you step back

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and look at it, all these people going to all

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these different churches, all claiming that the Bible is the

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final authority, that the Bible is the inerrit word of God,

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claiming that they're interpreting it correctly, rightly, dividing it correctly.

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If you take all of these interpretations, it's going to

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be this one contradicts that one, that one contradicts that one,

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that one contradicts that one, that one contradicts that one,

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that one contradicts that one. And they may even be

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saying those people do it wrong and those people do

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it wrong. And then those people are going to be saying, no,

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those people do it wrong, and those people do it wrong.

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And it's going to be just a you know, one

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two hours of Bible teaching tomorrow morning, all across the

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United States of America, and the totality of that, all

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of that teaching, the totality of all of that preaching

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is simply going to be no one agrees on anything,

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everyone contradicts the other, and everyone thinks they are right

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and everyone else is wrong. That'll be the totality of

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what's going to happen tomorrow. Everyone's going to go to church,

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everyone's going to hear the Word of God preached and

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everyone's going to think that what they hear preach is right.

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And if you're going to another church, you're hearing it wrong.

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Because we have it right and they have it wrong.

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We interpret it right, and everyone will claim the Bible

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is the final authority. Well, if the Bible's the final authority,

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you think there would be some agreement on what it

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actually says. Right. My hypothesis is, my theory is that

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the reality is the Bible is not the final authority. Oh,

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we want to claim that it is, but it isn't.

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Our interpretation is the authority. We interpret it. We believe

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we are right, and then we believe that our interpretation

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is authoritative on everyone else, and anyone who disagrees with

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our interpretation. We may go so far as to say

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they are a heretic. We may simply say they are wrong.

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We may say they're misguided. We may say something like

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if they would just learn how to read the Bible.

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I mean, it's so plain, it's so clear. But the

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point is we are the final authority. We're gonna claim

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the Bible's the final authority, but the reality is it's

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our interpretation. There's just literally no consistency. And if you

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just take one Sunday, just a one Sunday across the

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United States of America, and just go listen. Just wait

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till all the sermons are posted from tomorrow. You can

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just pick one platform. You can look all across the

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internet and go, Okay, here's this church. They've uploaded their sermon.

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This church is uploaded their sir, and just listen to

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all the different interpretations. If you'll really do that, you'll

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be like, wow, does anyone agree on anything? Radical different

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approaches to the text making the text say who knows what?

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But everyone thinking that they are right. Everyone thinks that

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they are right in their own eyes, and they think

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everyone else is wrong in their own eyes. Everyone believes

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that they interpret the Bible correctly, and anyone who disagrees

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with them interprets it incorrectly. It's just utter spiritual anarchy

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and confusion. And that's just if you step back and

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look at one Sunday, look at two thousand years of

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church history, the number of interpretations, it's innumerable. It's immeasurable

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to even be able to try to figure out how

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many interpretations there have been, how many contradict the other.

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That it's just in it's just crazy. You can go

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from commentary to commentary to commentary, and I mean just say,

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if we break it down to simple things, there's no

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agreement on baptism. There's no agreement on the Lord's Supper,

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there's no agreement on the church structure, there's no agreement

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on the word repentance. And when you sit back, you

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just sometimes just be like, I just don't know anymore. What,

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how do I even process? This is a reality. Look,

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this is not even debatable. It's a reality. It's a reality.

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It's not even debatable. Let me state it again, it's

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not even debatable. The number of interpretations are immeasurable. It's innumerable,

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and they just continue and continue and continue and continue.

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That's not even we can't even there's nothing to debate there.

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There's nothing to argue there. That's just the reality. Look

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at all the different denominations, look at all the different

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confessions of faith, look at all the and you said,

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but there's agreement on these things. But as soon as

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you say there's agreement on these things, there's agreement. If

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you keep it very vague, the more you dig in,

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the more you go, well, is there really agreement? Is

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there really agreement. Now, maybe on some things, but the

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point is the amount of disagreement. It's insane. And what

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some Christians say, well, we agree on the main things

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and all these other things are not really that important. Well,

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if all these other things are not important, then why

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do we yell and fight and scream and divide and

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leave churches?

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Over right?

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Okay, come on, Obviously it matters, because if the Bible's

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an errant, an eternal, an errant and fallible word of God,

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well then what it says matters. Correct. The point is

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we can't seem to agree on it.

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Now.

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Why am I discussing this because I've been sitting here

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almost all day just so frustrated, and it's really been

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building all week. It started when we went to Second

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King's chapter six. Remember, we're going to just review a

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sermon a Second King's chapter six about the axehead that floated,

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the floating axehead, And what did we found find out

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almost immediately in reviewing that sermon, Well, it's not really

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an accent. I mean, it's an axe head, but it's

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not really an axhead because the axeid actually represents it,

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actually pictures. So we're not going to really talk about

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a floating axe head. No, no, no, no. What we're

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really going to talk about is the axe head represents

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our effectiveness in the work of God. It pictures our

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zeal and passion for God, It pictures our fellowship, and

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it just depending on how I mean. There were so

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many things offered in one sermon, and then well, how

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does this work here? And how does this work with this?

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And there was no justification for what it means. It's

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just this picture's this, And everyone's sitting in the congregation

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was like, amen, Amen, Amen, what are you amening? You're

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amening someone just making up what the axe head represents.

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There is no scriptural defining what the axeid represents other

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than an axent Okay, But that they went all in.

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They went all in. And then we looked at a

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sermon that took it in a much more literal way.

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So are already we have a contradiction. Then we looked

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at a way that I learned in one of the

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schools I attended, where the taking the axe and chopping

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down the tree. That's us trying to keep the law.

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We cannot keep the law. So the axe head flies off,

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falls into the water. The water represents judgment the wrath

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of God, and we sink to the bottom because we're

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dead in our trespasses and sin because nobody can keep

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the law. And the stick being put in the water

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that's the cross, and it raises the axe head to

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the top because we've been resurrected. Oh sounds great, preaches good,

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everyone will be amen. I've never seen anything like that, Yeah,

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because the Bible and no way, shape or form would

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ever tell you that's what any of that represents, other

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than I don't know, maybe it's a literal axe head

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that literally came off and literally fell in water, and

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then there was a miracle performed, and then we can

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try to see what we can learn from that. But

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it pictures this, or pictures this, or pictures this, that's

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just wild speculation. So that was crazy. And I told

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you to listen to just random sermons on Second Kings

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chapter six and tell me what you find. And you know,

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I don't know what you found, but I guarantee it's

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going to be lots of craziness. And so then we

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ended up in Proverbs chapter thirty thinking, okay, well, this

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will be simple, right, this will be fun because that

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talks about there is a generation there is a generation. Okay,

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this could be we could really take this apart and

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we could probably Next thing, you know, we're listening to

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a sermon about Proverbs chapter thirty versus eleven through what

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was it seventeen, where we read there is a generation,

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there is a generation. There is a generation. There is

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a generation, right, and I'm like, okay, this will be fun,

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this will be interesting. And next thing, what did we

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find out? That this sermon spent about twenty minutes saying

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that there's coming a time where people will eat poor people.

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There's coming a time and I'm going to get graphic

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where they're going to chop off their heads, trank their blood,

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and eat their flesh. You think I'm making that up,

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but that's exactly literally what just what happened? And I'm

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like Proverbs thirty and the next thing, you know, it's

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some prophecy about people eating people. What in the name

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of bubblegum is going on? And then I just started

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thinking about about it. Well so so then so Proverbs

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thirty is talking about literally eating people. But then we

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found out in John six where Jesus says, if you eat,

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you have to eat my flesh and drink my blood.

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That's not literal. So then we had the weird inconsistency

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within one sermon. And then I just started thinking about

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other passages, right where pastors do crazy things. Right when

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David kills Goliath in what first Samuel chapter seventeen, I

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think is verse forty to fifty four. Next thing, you know,

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giant Goliath represents the giants in our life. He can

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represent fear, he can represent temptation. And then the stones, Oh,

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they represent this and this, and we need stones and

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our slingshot so we can take down the giant. And

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it all becomes some figurative, allegorical metaphorical who knows what.

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Or in Matthew eight, where Jesus is in the boat

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and there's a storm and he calms the storm. Oh,

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the storms are the storms and troubles in our life,

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and Jesus can come, what in the world are you

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talking about?

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Oh?

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And then we have never ending the Book of Joshua,

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the Book of Joshua, because the Book of Joshua once

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again becomes a picture, becomes a type and you can

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just make it basically mean whatever you want. And I'm

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just like, what is going on? So we've been working

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a lot on a lot of this. We've addressed a

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lot of this. I have literally, I'm not even using hyperbole.

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I'm not using a metaphor, I'm not using allegory. Literally,

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I have probably close to one hundred pages of notes

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on issues pertaining to the allegorical method, metaphorical language, picture assimiles.

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How do we handle it? What are some common errors

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and hermoneuticts? What are the hermoneutical principles we should abide by?

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point I've got to bring them all together to address this,

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because we can't. The reality of what is happening within

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Christianity and what's been happening for two thousand years, is

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a reality that, yes, you can just put on blinders

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and just pretend it's not a problem, just say, well,

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we interpret the Bible right, everyone else interprets it wrong,

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and I don't need to worry about it. But the

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reality is it's just entire, complete and utter. It's a

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free for all. It's people read the Bible and just

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say what make it and just make up whatever they want.

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It's a never ending series of contradictory interpretations, because this

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one contradicts that. When that contradicts that, when everyone thinks

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that they're right, everyone condemns everyone else's interpretation. At the

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same time, we claim the Bible's the authority, but no,

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we're the authority and we won't admit it. How do

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we get back to the text? I don't know how

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put it this way. There is no getting back to

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the text. And we can argue. I mean, it's October

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the nineteenth, We're fast approaching October the thirty first Reformation Day,

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and whatever your thoughts are on the Reformation, we have

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to at least acknowledge the unintended consequences.

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You can talk about the Reformation being about you know, indulgences,

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or the Reformation about this issue or this issue. It

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really comes down to it. It was an issue about

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the authority of the church, and Luther said, the church

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is wrong. The church doesn't have the corner of the

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the truth, the church doesn't have the authority. I'm going

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to question the authority, challenge the authority. And then when

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he got basically ended up being removed from the Catholic Church, right,

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basically excommunicated and put out well then guess what he Now,

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Luther would have tried to argue, Okay, it's not the church,

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it's the Bible. It's the Bible. It's the Bible. It's

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the Bible. But once you remove the church is authority

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and you say it's the Bible. At the unintended consequence

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is it went from the church, not to the Bible.

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It went from the church to the individual. Now every

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individual can pick up a Bible and say this is

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what it says, Thus saith the Lord. This is what

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it means, this is what it teaches. And if a

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church says you're wrong, no no, no, no no no

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no no no no no, you can't tell me I'm wrong.

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The church could not tell Luther he was wrong, so

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you can't tell me I am wrong. Now it comes

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down to the individual. And so every individual can interpret

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the Bible, and their interpretation may contradict their interpretation. So

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what you do. You find a church of people who

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agree with your interpretation or you agree with theirs, and

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then all we're all good, and then we tell everyone

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else that they're wrong. They say, that's a very simplistic view,

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and you're being very cynical. But it's very very very true.

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starts a disagreeing with the church's interpretation. They either start

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causing trouble, tries to cause a church split, or they

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just leave and go somewhere else where do they go?

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They go to a church that agrees with their interpretation.

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So who really is the authority in the whole thing?

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The individual? Oh, you can create all the right language.

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plurality of elders, and we have a presbytery, and we

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have this, and we have this, we have chicks and balances,

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and any individual can walk in and go you're all wrong,

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and walk right out and go to another church. And

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in fact they can go start a church. And you

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really can't say they're wrong like you say Luther was wrong.

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Luther set the press it and he wasn't the only one.

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There are others who said the church is wrong. The

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authority doesn't belong to the church. We say it belongs

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to the Bible, but really the unintended consequence, it belongs

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to the individual. Because the individual now is supposed to

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study the Bible, and then the individual is the one

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who's supposed to determine what has preached is rather true

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or false. Meaning their interpretation now is how they're going

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to judge what the church is teaching. Well, now it's

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the individual's interpretation that judges the teaching of the church.

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But guess what nobody in the church can agree on

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what the right interpretation is. This church of disagrees with

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that church, this individual disagrees with that individual. Just go

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on any Christian website where there are is comments section,

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and just look at the Christians argue over interpretation. You'll

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get everything and everyone thinks they're right, and everyone will

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condemn the other. It's just it's I don't even know

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what to do with it anymore. And you say, well,

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why is it? I mean, this has been true for

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two thousand years. Why is it bothering you so much?

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On October the nineteenth because just think about the absurdity.

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ended up hearing a sermon telling me that there's coming

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a time where people are going to eat poor people

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based off some language and Proverbs chep to thirty, verse fourteen,

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and then they go to other scripture and the next thing.

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You know, there's coming a time they're going to chop

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because the Bible says it, even though it completely ignores

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the even the possibility of metaphorical language. Well, it acknowledges

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that it's possible metaphor. But then they would said it dogmatic.

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eat my flesh and drink my blood. No, no, no, that's

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not literal. So it's literal. Sometimes it's literally not time

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according to what the flip of a coin, or just

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because some individual decides so, just because some individual decides so, oh,

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an acid, it represents this in this this well, this

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role represents this, land represents this, This represents this, and

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this represents this, and this represents this, and this represents this.

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You can just make it represent whatever you want. Oh,

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but if you disagree with what I say it represents,

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then I'm wrong and you're right. Of course, it's subjective,

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it's arbitrary in some ways, it's meaningless. So while I

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was sitting here just trying to figure all this out,

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just kept compiling more and more notes and more and

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more notes, not even really knowing if I can even

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come close to a solution. It's kind of just the

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same frustration I had with the whole You know, we

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talked about Christians and sin. We still haven't even really

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resolved all of those issues, but we looked at a

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lot of that just how subjective and contradictory it all is. Well,

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now we stumbled upon this. I was not looking for

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any of this. We stumbled on again. When you listen

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to a sermon on Proverbs thirty, the last thing you

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think you're going to be talking about people eating people.

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I do? What do I do? I don't know, I

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don't know. I got to figure out what I'm going

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to do tomorrow. You know, how does this impact what

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I'm supposed to do tomorrow? How much of this do

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I teach? Do I only teach about this on the

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first hour maybe, and then the second hour go to

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Romans four? Well, we're supposed to be talking about the

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next there four? Because I really need to get to that.

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What do I do? What do I do?

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open up my you know feed tab or I think

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zero app and I'm like, well, this looks interesting. Victory

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when you can't see it, victory when you can't see it.

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So I start listening to it. That's a long intro,

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just talking about a lot of stuff, and then all

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of a sudden it says, turn the book to the

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Book of Joshua, to the Book of Joshua. I'm like, okay,

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we have what literary genre would be the Book of Joshua. Everyone, Oh,

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it's a historical narrative. Well, let's see what happens now.

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Already I already have an idea where it's going because

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I listen to a little bit of it and was like, Oh,

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you've got to be kidding me. So we can add this.

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kind of just led to a lot of this. We

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Psalm fourteen four, which is a cross reference to the Well,

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which they said is a cross reference to some to

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Proverbs thirty fourteen. So Proverbs thirty fourteen, Psalm fourteen four,

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them again Proverbs thirty fourteen, Psalm fourteen four, Micah three

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one through four, Second King six one through seven, John

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chapter six, verse fifty three, following Matthew chapter eight, verses

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twenty three through twenty seven, and First Samuel chapter seventeen,

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verses forty through fifty four. All of those passages leads

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to this never ending discussion about well does this picture this?

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that there's no Look, there's not even an agreement on

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what Well. What drives me crazy is even churches that

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say no, we hold to the grammatical literal method of interpretation,

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they violate it constantly when they will say, well, we're

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gonna look at this and this represents this, and this

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picture is this, and this picture's this, and this picture

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is this, and this picture is this.

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I thought we were talking about the literal, grammatical, historical

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means of interpretation. Well, but we can't forget this well,

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you just start violating it. So then people's hermeneutical system

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really is just a hybrid of just all kinds of

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concepts and ideas that they're at their theological team agrees with.

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want to follow depending on what your team will or

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will not allow. There's no there's nothing in the Bible

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that says this is the way you must interpret it.

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So we have to come up with principles and then

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apply those principles to scripture. But anyone can use any

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principle they want whenever they want it. If they want

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to go full blown typology, they can. If they want

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to say typology is wrong, they can't. I mean, there's

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no one governing it. And again, the people in the pew,

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according to the non Catholic system, are the ones who're

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supposed to be reading and studying the Bible to determine

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if what is preached is true or false. So then

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it's really up to the hermoneutical method that the people

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in the pew are utilizing, because they're the ones judging

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the preaching.

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It's just.

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What well to this and see what happens. Let's just

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listen to this to see what happens. All right, right,

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let's just listen.

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Joshua, chapter number six. If you don't know anything about

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your Bible, this is the walls of Jericho come crashing down,

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and it's their first victory in the new Land under Joshua,

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the leadership of Joshua after Moses has passed away. There,

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this is Joshua leading the nation of Israel. And our

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text will be found there. In verse two, the Bible says,

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now Jericho was straightly shut up because of the children

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of Israel. None went out and none came in. And

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the Lord said, unto Joshua. See, look, I'm trying to

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show you something. See I have given into thine hand Jericho,

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the king thereof, and the mighty men of Valor. And

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then the Lord goes on to all these instructions. Will

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not go and read them all. I'll encourage you to

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read it all, just for sake of time. Here, the

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Bible says, there they went around marched around that city there,

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and they march in a specific pattern. They march specific instructions,

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just want our attention. We called their verse number two.

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The Lord tells Joshua, he said, look over here, Jericho.

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Now now you're in the Promised Land. You donet cross

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the river, and now you're here in the promised land.

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He said, Now look see I have given into thine hand, Jericho.

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You know what that's telling me. The Lord's saying, you

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know what, there's victory right here for you. And I

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like how the Lord started out. He said, see, but.

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That's what the Lord is telling you? Or is that

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what the Lord was telling Joshua? Now do I run

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at this text and go, oh, I can just look.

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Oh there's my Jericho, there's my problem. Oh but look,

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but look there's victory. Wait wait, wait, wait, I'm supposed

462
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to look at my problems and see victory because Joshua

463
00:26:04.279 --> 00:26:06.200
was told to look at a situation and see victory.

464
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Is this in any way transferable? Now, I'm not saying

465
00:26:12.039 --> 00:26:14.839
he was being explicitly saying that you can feel where

466
00:26:14.839 --> 00:26:17.599
it's going, because that's what preacher after preacher after preacher

467
00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:20.319
after preacher after preacher does. Meaning that. But then they

468
00:26:20.319 --> 00:26:24.200
will tell you we hold to the literal, grammatical, harmoneutical method.

469
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We only take it literal. Well, then next thing, you know,

470
00:26:27.240 --> 00:26:31.799
what are they doing here? They're spiritualizing it, They're turning

471
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it into some kind of and they say, no, we're

472
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just applying it. Is there anything in the text that

473
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says I can apply the victory God gave Joshua to us?

474
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Remember the victories God gave Israel, and most cases were

475
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absolutely connected to a covenant which he made them, which

476
00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:51.799
was very specific about giving them land, about doing this,

477
00:26:51.960 --> 00:26:55.319
and about doing this. I cannot go take those promises

478
00:26:55.480 --> 00:26:58.359
and smack them into my you know, slap them onto

479
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my chest and go, God's go to do the same

480
00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:04.640
for me. Here's my Jericho, and God's going to bring

481
00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:08.960
down the walls. What are you talking about? It preaches

482
00:27:09.000 --> 00:27:11.759
good just it's not biblical hermeneutics.

483
00:27:12.119 --> 00:27:16.920
It's just it's it's.

484
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Now. Maybe he's not going to go that direction. Maybe

485
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maybe not. So I don't want to assume that's the

486
00:27:24.279 --> 00:27:26.920
direction he's going, because that won't make me end up

487
00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:30.160
looking foolish. But you can tell my where I'm you

488
00:27:30.200 --> 00:27:32.759
can tell where I think it's going. Just because of

489
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how this week has gone and listening to sermons, it

490
00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:39.559
just seems like we just cannot get anything that resembles

491
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a nose other than that one sermon that at least

492
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attempted to give a more you know, literal understanding of

493
00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:47.799
the act head. But everything else has just been literal

494
00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:52.359
insentive yet literally insane. So maybe this is just going

495
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to be much more nuanced. And maybe so let's I'm

496
00:27:56.880 --> 00:28:01.960
jumping the gun a little bit, so take a deep breath,

497
00:28:04.279 --> 00:28:05.279
let's see where it goes.

498
00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:11.240
See it. The idea was that you're not seeing it,

499
00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:15.400
and for whatever reason, Joshua and maybe in some of

500
00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:17.279
the nation Visia, they're kind of like, man, this is

501
00:28:17.319 --> 00:28:20.720
our first battle. Man when need to get ready. But

502
00:28:20.799 --> 00:28:23.519
now they're kind of like, well, I ain't seeing it. Lord,

503
00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:28.480
I don't know what you're trying to do here. Lord,

504
00:28:28.559 --> 00:28:31.240
we ain't got no wimping, we ain't got nothing. Lord

505
00:28:31.279 --> 00:28:36.160
says no, just look see it. There's victory. Get ready.

506
00:28:36.920 --> 00:28:39.599
But they're like, I don't know, Amen. So from that

507
00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:42.200
verse number two, there I got this title here tonight

508
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and hopefully be a blessing to you. There's victory even

509
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when you don't see it. Hey man, there's victory even

510
00:28:49.799 --> 00:28:53.480
when you don't see it. Tonight. It's available for you tonight.

511
00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:54.480
Ay man, I believe that.

512
00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:59.920
Okay, now, all right, So immediately he's taking this tech

513
00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:02.880
and telling you there's victory even when you don't see it.

514
00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:07.519
Victory is available to you. That may seem that I

515
00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:09.640
have to do something to get the victory there maybe

516
00:29:09.720 --> 00:29:12.240
some steps? Are there seven steps I've got? Do I

517
00:29:12.279 --> 00:29:15.160
have to march around the problem a certain amount of time?

518
00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:17.960
Do I blow a trumpet? Is that what I have

519
00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:20.000
to do? Are we going to take all of this

520
00:29:20.079 --> 00:29:23.680
and just turn this into one metaphor one? And is

521
00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:24.920
that what we're going to do here?

522
00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:25.480
And see?

523
00:29:25.480 --> 00:29:28.519
This is so acceptable in almost every church in the

524
00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:30.920
United States of America for me to turn on a

525
00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:33.960
microphone on a Saturday evening and say, hey, if your

526
00:29:34.039 --> 00:29:36.920
church is doing this, I think it's completely abandon anything

527
00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:41.160
resembling biblical hermeneutics. I'll be the odd one out. I

528
00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:43.799
understand that, I understand that I know no one's going

529
00:29:43.839 --> 00:29:45.519
to agree with me. But does it really matter if

530
00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:49.480
you disagree with me because your interpretation, my interpretation, who's

531
00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:51.640
right and who's wrong. It just shows you once again

532
00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:55.640
the subjectivity of it all. Everything is subjective. Everything is

533
00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:57.680
just do what is right in your own eyes. You

534
00:29:57.720 --> 00:29:59.960
think you're right. I think I'm right. You can tell

535
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:02.640
me I'm wrong. Who cares? I can tell you you're wrong.

536
00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:07.839
Everyone thinks they're right. For every one interpretation, there's thirty

537
00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:16.559
others right. So he clearly is going, hey, guys, guys,

538
00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:19.559
based on we're reading Joshua six and what does he

539
00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:21.960
want you to know? What's his basic hypotheses? There is

540
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:25.359
victory for you, even when you cannot see it. It

541
00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:32.880
is available to you based off Joshua six two. Joshua

542
00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:35.920
six two tells me nothing about victory being available to

543
00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:38.319
me has nothing to do with me having victory or

544
00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:42.759
not having victory. It literally has nothing to do about me.

545
00:30:46.839 --> 00:30:48.880
This Bible says that you know, and Baba says, there's

546
00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:52.279
thanks be to God which giveth us the victory through

547
00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:56.440
our Lord Jesus Christ. A wonderful book, man to read.

548
00:30:56.480 --> 00:30:59.200
Man is from the Book of Joshua. Of outside the

549
00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:02.640
Book of Joshua, good commentary. Alan Redpath wrote a lot

550
00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:04.839
of good stuff and wrote a lot of correlation.

551
00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:09.599
Alan Redpath is that is?

552
00:31:09.599 --> 00:31:09.720
That?

553
00:31:09.960 --> 00:31:14.359
Was that the name Alan Redpath? Let me look here,

554
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:17.200
Let me look here. I've got to see if I

555
00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:23.039
can find this name Okay, hang on, Here we go, Alan,

556
00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:28.799
hang on, go to Google? Was it Alan Redpath? Is

557
00:31:28.839 --> 00:31:29.799
that was that the name?

558
00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:33.319
Alan? Read? Hang on?

559
00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:48.200
If I can spell? Right on? Joshua victorious, Yeah, Victorious

560
00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:53.480
Christian Living studies in the Book of Joshua, Alan Redpath.

561
00:31:53.559 --> 00:31:57.039
All right, hang on, I'm going to do something here.

562
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:04.319
I'm going to see here. All right, here we go.

563
00:32:04.359 --> 00:32:13.640
I'm going to do a little work here. Hang on,

564
00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:15.799
I'm doing a little I'm doing a little research live

565
00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:28.200
on the air. Hang on, give me one second. Interpretive

566
00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:34.720
approach to Joshua.

567
00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:36.920
All right, here we go.

568
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:42.759
All right, and this is what I found. Summary of

569
00:32:42.839 --> 00:32:47.000
Alan Redpath's interpretive approach to Joshua and Victorious Christian Living

570
00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:49.880
and Victorious Christian Living. Alan Redpath explores the Book of

571
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:57.039
Joshua as a spiritual allegory oh for the Christian life,

572
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particularly in terms of victory over sin and living a

573
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life of faith. He presents the conquest of Canaan as

574
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a symbolic journey for spiritual warfare and growth, where each battle, obstacle,

575
00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:09.000
and victory experienced by the Israelites parallels the Christian's journey

576
00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:12.720
towards sanctification. Red Path emphasizes the idea that the Book

577
00:33:12.759 --> 00:33:15.559
of Joshua was not merely a historical account, but serves

578
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:19.480
as a guide for overcoming spiritual challenges, gaining personal victory

579
00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:24.480
over sin, and enjoying the promises of God. His interpretive

580
00:33:24.519 --> 00:33:27.240
method is deeply devotional, focusing on how the events and

581
00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:30.359
Joshua mirror of the struggles, victories, and faith required and

582
00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:34.559
believer's daily life. Possessing God's promise, just as Israel had

583
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:37.680
to take possessing possession of the promised land, Christians may

584
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:40.839
must take hold of the spiritual inheritance promised to them

585
00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:43.920
and christ victory through faith. A Red Path underscores that

586
00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:46.519
victory is not achieved by human effort alone, but through

587
00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:50.759
dependence on God's power and promises. Defeating spiritual strongholds. The

588
00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:55.359
battle Israel faces in Canaan symbolizes the believer's battle against sin, temptation,

589
00:33:55.680 --> 00:34:01.599
and spiritual strongholds. All right, yeah, well, he goes, I mean,

590
00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:04.079
this is a long list of everything that goes on here,

591
00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:05.839
but you can immediately see this is the book he's

592
00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:09.840
recommending to everyone. So immediately, what did I find again?

593
00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:13.280
This whole week, I pick a random sermon, and what

594
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:16.159
do I find another example of someone just taking a

595
00:34:16.199 --> 00:34:19.199
book in the Bible and just boom, just going to

596
00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:21.280
turn it into whatever we want to turn it into. Now,

597
00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:23.920
what he's doing, he's relying on someone else who just

598
00:34:23.960 --> 00:34:26.039
took the Book of Joshua and turned it into whatever

599
00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:28.880
he wanted to turn it into. So let's back this

600
00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:30.360
up just a little bit. Here we go.

601
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:33.719
This Bible says that you know, when Bible says, there's

602
00:34:33.800 --> 00:34:37.119
thanks be to God which giveth us the victory through

603
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:40.880
our Lord Jesus Christ a wonderful.

604
00:34:41.840 --> 00:34:44.079
Now before he mentions the name of the book again, yes,

605
00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:48.559
the Bible does talk about victory in Jesus. Now, some

606
00:34:48.599 --> 00:34:50.840
people say, well, the Bible speaks about victory in Jesus,

607
00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:52.679
so that I can take that victory in Jesus and

608
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:54.800
take it to the Book of Joshua and somehow find

609
00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:58.880
a parallel according to what Now, if the New Testament

610
00:34:59.719 --> 00:35:04.960
re differences Joshua and one of these battles and relates

611
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:07.719
it to the Christian life, then you would have spiritual

612
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:10.440
and scriptural justification for doing so. But if you don't

613
00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:12.679
have anything in the New Testament that does that, then

614
00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:16.480
you are just running and just making things up, you said,

615
00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:22.840
But there's a similarity. You are drawing that conclusion. We

616
00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:25.719
can read Joshua and say this is what God did

617
00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:30.000
for Israel based off the Covenant promises he made to them.

618
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:33.880
This is what God has done for us in Christ Jesus.

619
00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:36.639
Now if you want to do it that way, but

620
00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:40.360
don't immediately say well, this represents this, and this represents this.

621
00:35:40.599 --> 00:35:43.719
It's how you handle it. It's how you approach it.

622
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:45.840
Let's see what he does.

623
00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:49.800
Well. Book Men to read Man is from the Book

624
00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:52.880
of Joshua. Of outside the Book of Joshua. Good commentary.

625
00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:55.840
Alan Redpat wrote a lot of good stuff and wrote

626
00:35:55.880 --> 00:35:59.400
a lot of correlation between the New Testament Christian life

627
00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:02.119
and life of warfare and man match it up over

628
00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:04.800
here with the Book of Joshua. And I like the

629
00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:07.159
Book of Joshua. One reason there. Man, it's just a

630
00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:10.400
lot of warfare. Amen. That's what a blessing. And that

631
00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:12.440
to me is a man that just appeals to me.

632
00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:18.440
And I like warfare, Amen. I like fighting, Amen, And

633
00:36:18.480 --> 00:36:22.119
I just like watching fights. When I grew up in school,

634
00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:23.880
man as a kid, I remember, Man, they go here

635
00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:25.639
to get in a fight, and everybody fire fight where

636
00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:28.639
where man, we would be. We want to go over there.

637
00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:31.159
Here's a fighting seawing man. We run over there, man,

638
00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:33.360
and we might be late for class, but we're gonna

639
00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:37.360
see it. Amen. And something about that just appeals to me.

640
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:40.519
And this passage here the Lord's telling Joshua, he said,

641
00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:43.920
see I have given him there. And the idea here

642
00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:46.880
is that Joshua nation isray kind of I don't know, Lord,

643
00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:49.880
what are you talking about. We're not seeing it yet,

644
00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:52.360
but the Lord's honey, help them here tonight, lead them

645
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:54.119
to victory. And that's what I don't preach you not

646
00:36:54.199 --> 00:36:56.679
for a little while. Here there's victory even when you

647
00:36:56.679 --> 00:36:58.800
don't see it. I think to not you know what

648
00:36:58.840 --> 00:37:00.679
we need? We need some people to get some victory.

649
00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:02.960
One of the things about a good revival, you know,

650
00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:05.840
a good revival, do it help you get some victory.

651
00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:07.800
There ought to be some things in your life that

652
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:10.599
you can point to and say, the Lord help me

653
00:37:10.719 --> 00:37:13.480
win that, the Lord helped me overcome, that the Lord

654
00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:16.239
helped me get through that like the preacher, Preacher and

655
00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:19.119
the Lord helped us get through Ben to see right there, Yeah,

656
00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:21.880
we made a mistake, we got we got there. Man

657
00:37:21.920 --> 00:37:24.559
in the middle of that thing. We took too long, man,

658
00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:26.800
We got in the storm, but the Lord helped us

659
00:37:26.880 --> 00:37:27.599
get through it.

660
00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:32.639
What I would wind is, I don't know, God, just

661
00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:38.840
help us never sin again, wouldn't I just.

662
00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:41.920
Right? I mean?

663
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:47.280
So God? So does he allow the problems to come?

664
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And then he helps us through the problems? And what

665
00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:51.760
happens when he doesn't help us through the problems? And

666
00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:53.760
if God is the one who decreed the problem, why

667
00:37:53.800 --> 00:37:56.000
would help us get out of the problem he decreed? Well,

668
00:37:56.039 --> 00:37:58.159
then we get into all kinds of questions there. But

669
00:37:58.280 --> 00:38:00.599
if God is the one doing the helping, then just

670
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:02.559
help us be holy as he is holy, because it's

671
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literally what he calls us to be. So then why

672
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:08.440
we know, well, he doesn't help us do that practically?

673
00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:12.920
So does God? Is God still doing the help? Why

674
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doesn't he help us like he?

675
00:38:14.199 --> 00:38:14.519
I mean?

676
00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:15.960
Does he help like?

677
00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:16.880
I mean?

678
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Do we understand that he's going to do the same

679
00:38:19.199 --> 00:38:21.679
miracles that he did here, well he brings down the

680
00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:25.440
entire walls of a city? Or are we just gonna

681
00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:27.920
say no, he doesn't do those miracles. He does miracles

682
00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:30.840
now in a different kind of way. Now some will

683
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:33.280
say no, he will do the exact same miracles, you know,

684
00:38:33.480 --> 00:38:35.719
And so you've got some charismatics to say that they can,

685
00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:38.880
you know, raise the dead, hill the sick, they can

686
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:41.599
run out and stop a tornado and stop a hurricane.

687
00:38:41.639 --> 00:38:43.360
Of course, over and over all these claims are proven

688
00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:46.639
to be fraudulent, fraudulent, fraudulent, fraudulent, fraudulent, fraudulent. So I

689
00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:48.599
think what others do is say, well, God need these

690
00:38:48.599 --> 00:38:50.679
great miracles, but now he does the miracles, and kind

691
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:53.719
of a you know, it's it's there. You just have

692
00:38:53.800 --> 00:38:56.679
to say, if it goes well, it was God doing it,

693
00:38:56.719 --> 00:38:58.559
and if it doesn't go well, it's just because God

694
00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:02.800
didn't want it to go well. I don't know. But again,

695
00:39:02.840 --> 00:39:05.239
I don't know how you're getting any of this from Joshua,

696
00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:10.000
because it's not about us. But okay, let's see where

697
00:39:10.039 --> 00:39:10.440
this goes.

698
00:39:11.960 --> 00:39:14.519
That's a victory. It may it may not have been

699
00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:17.159
looked like at the beginning, but it ended up turning

700
00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:19.840
out to be a victory. And a lot of times

701
00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:22.760
in our life here we need victory. I think there's

702
00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:25.599
something about every time you win something, it kind of

703
00:39:25.639 --> 00:39:27.800
just man fires you up, makes you want to keep

704
00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:30.559
going at it. When you hit the ball, you get

705
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:34.320
a man, you get a hit there in baseball softball,

706
00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:36.239
when you get that hit, you know what it does.

707
00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:39.039
It makes you want to take another swing again. Now

708
00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:41.480
you run down the bases like, man, that was good. Man.

709
00:39:41.519 --> 00:39:43.639
When you're playing football, man you throw the ball, man,

710
00:39:43.679 --> 00:39:45.639
you catch it, or you make a good tackle. You know,

711
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:48.360
just say, man, that was good. That was a victory there.

712
00:39:48.800 --> 00:39:50.840
It may not have been a complete but man, there

713
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:52.840
was just a little victory that makes you want to

714
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:54.880
go on. I think a lot of times there's a

715
00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:59.000
lot of Christians they don't have them little victories and

716
00:39:59.119 --> 00:40:01.800
the result they just don't want to go on. Yeah,

717
00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:06.800
they're like, well, having no good I've heard you that. Man,

718
00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:08.760
if you had had any victory and whow I pray

719
00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:10.039
this week God give you some?

720
00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:15.599
Yes, Well, why wouldn't you have the victory? If God

721
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:17.719
is the one who gives you the victory, then why

722
00:40:17.719 --> 00:40:20.840
have you been going so long without the victory? So

723
00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:24.519
because you didn't follow fourteen steps thirteen steps, You didn't

724
00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:27.079
crush your fingers, you didn't throw salt over your shoulder.

725
00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:30.679
A black cat crossed your path, you walked under a ladder,

726
00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:32.719
you broke a mirror. If God is the one who

727
00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:34.440
gives you the victory, then why haven't you had the

728
00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:36.880
victory because you didn't do the right steps to get

729
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:39.159
the victory? Well, does anyone have the Book of the

730
00:40:39.239 --> 00:40:41.079
Right Steps? So then we can all say, here are

731
00:40:41.119 --> 00:40:43.000
the twelve steps you have to have, and if you'll

732
00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:45.039
do these twelve steps, then you'll be in victory. And

733
00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:47.519
if we're always in victory, wouldn't that didn't imply we

734
00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:50.000
would never sin? Because if you're constantly sinning, are you

735
00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:53.039
in victory? God says, be you holy as He is holy?

736
00:40:53.239 --> 00:40:55.119
You're never holy as He is holy? So are you

737
00:40:55.159 --> 00:40:58.760
ever in victory? Wouldn't you be perpetually in defeat at

738
00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:02.280
least practically speaking? Or is victory a positional thing?

739
00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:04.320
Oh?

740
00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:06.960
See, well, and once again I'm asking all these hard questions.

741
00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:08.920
But these are the problems that arises when you go

742
00:41:08.920 --> 00:41:11.159
to the Book of Joshua and tell me that somehow

743
00:41:11.360 --> 00:41:13.880
this is about my victory when it has nothing to

744
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:17.480
do with my victory at all, It has zero none

745
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:19.880
unless you can find me something in the New Testament

746
00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:23.400
that specifically applies it to us. If you can, then

747
00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:25.920
all right, we can talk about that. Let's see if

748
00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:27.920
he connects it to anything in the New Testament. So

749
00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:28.840
far there hasn't been.

750
00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:32.679
There's victory for you, even if you don't see it.

751
00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:37.079
You said, picture, you just started that. My problem, My

752
00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:41.199
problem is this big that's what the way, the way,

753
00:41:41.280 --> 00:41:44.920
the way Jericho look to the thanks of Israel, the

754
00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:49.280
giant walls. Lord, how nor are we gonna get up there? Lord?

755
00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:52.039
We ain't got no rope. Lord, we ain't got a

756
00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:54.880
sealed team six to go in and the men insert.

757
00:41:55.239 --> 00:41:57.400
We ain't got no copters that go in, dropping the

758
00:41:57.480 --> 00:42:00.960
team and open the doors. Isn't we ain't got that? Lord? Oh,

759
00:42:01.119 --> 00:42:03.000
I see there'll be something there. There'll be a victory

760
00:42:03.039 --> 00:42:05.880
for you. You may not see it now, but there's

761
00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:08.880
victory waiting for you. And I want to encourage not

762
00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:09.679
Christian ton.

763
00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:14.920
There's victory waiting for you. Now. Let me just make

764
00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:17.039
sure I understand. I just go through things I have

765
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:25.159
seen in my Christian life. There's victory waiting for you. You,

766
00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:30.800
young person being molested year after year after year by

767
00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:36.159
maybe someone in a church, maybe by pastor, by youth leader,

768
00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:40.800
or by a relative. Oh, but there's victory. Oh, A

769
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:46.119
young mother with two small children gets cancer. Oh she died.

770
00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:49.480
Oh I've seen that multiple times now, even while other

771
00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:53.760
Christians said God was going to heal her or held them.

772
00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:59.760
You see, was that victory? Was that victory? Or a

773
00:42:59.800 --> 00:43:09.360
fan family whose daughter was murdered? Was that victory? Children

774
00:43:09.679 --> 00:43:13.400
born with terminal illnesses who live for a couple of

775
00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:16.400
years suffering and then they die? Is that victory?

776
00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:17.719
Now?

777
00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:18.880
What do you mean by victory?

778
00:43:20.440 --> 00:43:20.599
Now?

779
00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:24.440
If you mean eternally, if you mean positionally, I'm all

780
00:43:24.519 --> 00:43:27.440
day with you. Does God promise victory in this life?

781
00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:31.440
Because he's seeming to need to, implying that, Hey, you

782
00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:34.360
need victory, victory is available to you. Well, victory is

783
00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:36.840
available to you. Then I just named the problem. And hey,

784
00:43:36.920 --> 00:43:39.800
if the problem looks big, don't forget the walls of Jericho.

785
00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:42.320
Well what does the wall Jericho have to do with

786
00:43:42.360 --> 00:43:43.079
my problems?

787
00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:52.079
If you're saved and not, I want to encourage you.

788
00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:54.800
Now there's victory even if you don't see it. And

789
00:43:54.840 --> 00:43:57.000
now I'll tell you what that's. If there's any reason

790
00:43:57.000 --> 00:43:59.400
to get saved. Nine man, that's a good one, right there. Man,

791
00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:02.880
Just get so you can have some victory. The world

792
00:44:02.920 --> 00:44:06.360
talks about victories with with their men made programs and

793
00:44:06.440 --> 00:44:08.440
all the things that they do out here in this world.

794
00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:11.079
They got all their little man made programs, their self help,

795
00:44:11.119 --> 00:44:16.280
their psychology, their philosophies, and they get temporary victories. But

796
00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:19.400
I'll tell you what, man, there's lasting victory in the Lord.

797
00:44:19.440 --> 00:44:26.039
Denied again, positionally or practically. Because Christianity looks just like

798
00:44:26.119 --> 00:44:30.559
the world. Marriages fall apart, problems, this happens, This happens

799
00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:34.320
in church splits, this, this, this, this, this, look at

800
00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:39.079
all the sexual abuse that's happened with inside churches, on

801
00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:42.800
and on and on. Where's the victory? Where's the victory?

802
00:44:42.840 --> 00:44:43.119
Oh?

803
00:44:43.239 --> 00:44:44.960
Because they didn't do the right steps?

804
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:46.840
That is that the issue.

805
00:44:46.960 --> 00:44:48.519
I don't know if you can be saying get saved

806
00:44:48.519 --> 00:44:51.360
and you'll have victory. You can get saved and what

807
00:44:51.639 --> 00:44:58.000
now Positionally, yes, eternally, yes, Spiritually yes, you can't make

808
00:44:58.039 --> 00:45:02.719
any promises about practical victory.

809
00:45:03.000 --> 00:45:05.880
Amen. I'm glad that there's not only lasting victory, but man,

810
00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:09.320
there's satisfying victories in the Lord. I mean, there's some

811
00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:12.840
things that God has helped me win, helped me overcome that. Man,

812
00:45:12.920 --> 00:45:15.760
I tell you what, It just satisfied my heart. And

813
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:18.519
I'm so grateful. I'm thinking, Lord, Man, thank you for

814
00:45:18.639 --> 00:45:21.280
helping me get through that. Thank you Lord for helping

815
00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:23.960
me overcome that. Lord, thank you Lord God that you

816
00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:26.320
did that. Lord and man did that in my life. Lord,

817
00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:30.320
what a blessing it is to have victories from the Lord. Man?

818
00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:32.960
And I'm like I said, I think they're law folks.

819
00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:36.320
They just hadn't had victory in a long while. Now,

820
00:45:36.360 --> 00:45:38.800
don't answer out loud, just answer in your heart. When

821
00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:42.639
was the last time you had some victory? When was

822
00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:44.639
the last time you had some victory over something in

823
00:45:44.679 --> 00:45:49.400
your own personal life that no one knows about? Amen?

824
00:45:50.599 --> 00:45:52.480
When was the last time you had some victory over

825
00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:55.480
maybe some of the things in your thoughts and your heart,

826
00:45:55.599 --> 00:46:01.079
your spirit, some of them sins of the spirit. Where

827
00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:03.119
the last time you had some victory? Man? In your

828
00:46:03.159 --> 00:46:06.880
personal line? Man, when the last time you experienced some victory? Collectively?

829
00:46:06.920 --> 00:46:07.519
As a church?

830
00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:12.239
Again, if God will give us victory over these things,

831
00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:16.000
then one, don't he just give us victory? Like it's

832
00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:19.000
such a weird definition of victory. God gave me victory

833
00:46:19.079 --> 00:46:22.199
over this thing. But I'm in a perpetual status sin.

834
00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:25.400
But God gave me victory over this thing. But I'm

835
00:46:25.400 --> 00:46:28.400
in a perpetual status sin. Unless God gives me victory

836
00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:31.679
over all sin, I'm still in sin even if I

837
00:46:31.679 --> 00:46:33.920
have victory over one sin. And how do I measure

838
00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:36.119
victory over one sin? When the Bible says if I'm

839
00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:37.960
guilty of one point in the law, I'm guilty of

840
00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:40.000
all of it. So I'm in a perpetual status end,

841
00:46:40.159 --> 00:46:42.519
So how do I How am I even measuring victory? Well,

842
00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:46.760
I stop doing this. Well, congratulations, but you're still in sin.

843
00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:50.880
From a philological perspective, are you any better off? You

844
00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:53.159
may be better off, I guess from a practical way,

845
00:46:53.159 --> 00:46:56.079
because you're not doing that anymore. But are you not

846
00:46:56.159 --> 00:47:01.480
doing that anymore external? But you're still doing it internally.

847
00:47:01.519 --> 00:47:05.960
Are you saying you stop doing it internally? It seems

848
00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:10.440
like a very subjective way to measure any form of victory.

849
00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:16.000
I said, Man, God really did something for our church. Well,

850
00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:18.239
I'm going to tell you something tonight. There's victory. You

851
00:47:18.239 --> 00:47:22.519
don't see it. Tonight, praychuard our problems. This big man.

852
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:25.760
The walls of Jericho were huge, but God gave them

853
00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:27.599
some victory. Now I pray that God do that for

854
00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:29.800
us this week. Amen, let's pray and we'll get your

855
00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:32.280
message here. Lord. I pray now you bless what's being

856
00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:35.119
said here, Lord God, to help your people that I see,

857
00:47:35.159 --> 00:47:37.239
Lord God, some victory. Lord God. I want people to

858
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:39.440
see victory. Lord. I'm thankful to the things you've done

859
00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:41.519
for me. Now I want your people to see some

860
00:47:41.599 --> 00:47:43.960
of that. May you God in direct now, Lord help us. Now.

861
00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:46.000
We love you, and I pray the blood of jests

862
00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:49.639
would cover this place, sanctify it, Lord God, rebuke, runoff,

863
00:47:49.719 --> 00:47:52.360
restrain anything they will try to hurt our harm Lord,

864
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:55.000
to service or steal away from you. May your word

865
00:47:55.039 --> 00:47:57.119
have a free course, Lord God, and may your spirit

866
00:47:57.159 --> 00:48:01.239
have liberty. Lord help us. Now we pray in Jesus name. Amen, Amen, Amen,

867
00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:04.840
you know there's victory even when you don't see it.

868
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:07.840
I think you know. Joshua them, you know, what were they?

869
00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:10.840
What were they seeing? Joshua and his people, And when

870
00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:13.679
they looked at the Jericho, what they saw was walls,

871
00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:19.840
large walls, imposing walls, walls that justlike, we can't get

872
00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:22.159
in there. I don't know how we're gonna do that.

873
00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:26.039
When when what they saw, they saw other warriors. They

874
00:48:26.079 --> 00:48:29.280
saw the warriors of the Canaan. The giants, they saw

875
00:48:29.559 --> 00:48:33.280
the warriors, men of of of Jericho, they saw everyone

876
00:48:33.320 --> 00:48:36.320
else out there had shields and spears and arrows, and

877
00:48:36.400 --> 00:48:38.559
you know what they had, They just had rams horns

878
00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:43.199
in an arc aymen. The Lord didn't say, man, gird

879
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:45.159
you're sword upon your thigh? He know what he said?

880
00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:46.320
He said, all right, I want you all get some

881
00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:51.159
ram horns and were Lord, they got they got sword,

882
00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:53.480
they got shield, they got spears, and you know you

883
00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:57.119
want to take ram horns? I think that was that

884
00:48:57.159 --> 00:48:58.599
word to show fard what were you wanted to get?

885
00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:00.239
To get one of them and just go out there? That?

886
00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:05.199
Are you kidding me? Lord? Well, they see walls, they

887
00:49:05.239 --> 00:49:08.840
saw warriors, they saw weapons, man weapons men that man.

888
00:49:08.920 --> 00:49:10.880
They felt like, man, I never seen something like that.

889
00:49:10.920 --> 00:49:12.280
How in the world we're gonna do deal with that

890
00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:15.480
right there? How are we gonna defend against that man?

891
00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:18.400
The siege warfare? Have you ever studying about want warfare?

892
00:49:18.519 --> 00:49:20.960
Siege warfare is a little different than warfare out in

893
00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:25.159
the field. Siege warfare you come upon a place, surround it. Man,

894
00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:27.760
it's a war of attrition. You try to break down,

895
00:49:27.840 --> 00:49:30.039
cut off all their supplies, make sure the people in

896
00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:33.159
there not getting reinforced. I mean, you demorrowize. I mean

897
00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:36.519
it's it's different warfare. But this warfare for them right there,

898
00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:38.440
just war You're gonna march around in front of everybody.

899
00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:43.639
Everybody's gonna laugh, and you know you're marching out there different. Amen,

900
00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:47.599
their weapons, they saw men that their warfare was unconventional

901
00:49:47.639 --> 00:49:51.679
to them. Everything they saw about it didn't look good.

902
00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:54.360
I think a lot of times, as Christians, men are life,

903
00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:59.519
when we look at this world, it don't look good. Amen, here,

904
00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:02.039
remind me this story. This old Indian man, Indian man

905
00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:04.840
had a horse there, real nice, a good horse. You know.

906
00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:07.039
By the way, if you don't know, I'm Nablo Indian. Amen,

907
00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:09.239
in case you don't know, In case you haven't figured

908
00:50:09.280 --> 00:50:12.280
it out yet. They been there was this old Navil

909
00:50:12.360 --> 00:50:15.119
man standing by the road there selling the horse. As

910
00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:17.239
he's selling that horse there, man, this guy man looked

911
00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:19.400
at it. He saw it. Man, this this white trader.

912
00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:21.679
He looked. He said, man, that's a beautiful horse. He

913
00:50:21.719 --> 00:50:24.679
turned around and went back he's head and then he said, uh,

914
00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:30.360
I said, a real nice horse. In innocent. My wife's

915
00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:32.199
been a good week out there in the resist now

916
00:50:32.239 --> 00:50:34.840
so she can testify to this. And they don't say much.

917
00:50:35.480 --> 00:50:41.960
She's always like you all, don't communicate them. He said, oh,

918
00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:43.559
you know, I'll give you. I'll give you. I'll give

919
00:50:43.599 --> 00:50:46.800
you five hundred dollars for that horse. And then said,

920
00:50:47.480 --> 00:50:50.239
you know, it looks so good. He said, are you

921
00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:52.000
kidding me? Look at me, Look at the haunches on

922
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:53.559
the thing. Man, Look at look at the man. I

923
00:50:53.639 --> 00:50:57.280
think at least fifteen sixteen hands on that thing. He said, Man,

924
00:50:57.360 --> 00:50:59.920
the man is beautiful. He's a matter of fact. He said,

925
00:50:59.880 --> 00:51:02.679
I can give you two thousand dollars for that horse.

926
00:51:03.880 --> 00:51:10.760
And then he said he no, looks so good. He said,

927
00:51:11.639 --> 00:51:15.920
I don't know. You're driving a hardbarg ending five thousand,

928
00:51:19.760 --> 00:51:23.159
bought the horse, took it. Left. A week later, here

929
00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:25.800
come that ending, that white trader coming down fine, trying

930
00:51:25.840 --> 00:51:28.199
to find that now I'm man. Finally found him beside

931
00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:31.239
the road, mad at him, I mean, just fired up,

932
00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:33.760
and he said, I'm on the wall and walk the world.

933
00:51:33.800 --> 00:51:37.239
You just you show me a blind horse. He said,

934
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:43.119
he do look so good. When I was, when I was,

935
00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:45.599
when I when this election coming up, you know, it

936
00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:53.679
looks so good. Society and the economy. Right now, you

937
00:51:53.800 --> 00:51:54.599
do look so good.

938
00:51:56.280 --> 00:52:04.519
But you know what the Lord says, there's victory.

939
00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:10.440
I don't even know what to say. A funny story,

940
00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:13.760
Joshua six has nothing to do with any of this,

941
00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:17.519
Ladies and gentlemen. Nothing. Now, you could go to some

942
00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:19.679
of the New Testament passages about the victory. But the

943
00:52:19.760 --> 00:52:23.519
victory that God is talking about is our spiritual victory

944
00:52:23.559 --> 00:52:27.079
in Christ Jesus. It's our positional victory.

945
00:52:31.400 --> 00:52:36.239
But if you don't see it, even if you by yours, well,

946
00:52:36.280 --> 00:52:39.559
I'm virtual. I just ain't seeing it. Bro Walkey, I

947
00:52:39.679 --> 00:52:41.159
just ain't saying it. You want to have a meet

948
00:52:41.199 --> 00:52:45.000
and do this, I just ain't seeing it. There's still victory,

949
00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:47.559
the Lord told Joshua. He said, I know you ain't

950
00:52:47.559 --> 00:52:49.280
seen it, and I know your people might not be

951
00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:53.639
completely convinced. But see here's victory.

952
00:52:55.599 --> 00:52:58.559
Again. I know, preachers, it's easy to do. When you

953
00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:01.079
start telling these stories. You start putting words in God's

954
00:53:01.119 --> 00:53:03.639
mouth that God said this, or that the people said this,

955
00:53:03.800 --> 00:53:06.119
or that Joshua said this, when the text does not

956
00:53:06.199 --> 00:53:12.719
record any such dialogue.

957
00:53:14.440 --> 00:53:16.360
How high is there gonna be victory? I'll say number

958
00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:18.360
one here. Now, you want to have victory like this,

959
00:53:18.679 --> 00:53:21.320
I want to say it here, there's victory because our

960
00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:25.159
hope is in him. You know why there's victory when

961
00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:27.760
we don't see it, because our hope is in him.

962
00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:30.559
I like that verse in Romans chap Number four when

963
00:53:30.559 --> 00:53:33.360
it gets to talk about Abraham, men who believed God

964
00:53:33.400 --> 00:53:35.920
and it was counting him for righteousness, and by Able said,

965
00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:39.039
I like that phrase. Who against hope? And I mean

966
00:53:39.119 --> 00:53:41.199
believing in hope. I mean he just man, he was

967
00:53:41.199 --> 00:53:44.760
just trust that God regardless. Aben. You know why we

968
00:53:44.840 --> 00:53:49.039
got victory because our hope tonight is in Him. Our

969
00:53:49.119 --> 00:53:52.480
hope is in the Creator. Our hope is in God Almighty.

970
00:53:52.880 --> 00:53:55.760
Our hope man is in there the Lord Jesus Christ.

971
00:53:56.800 --> 00:54:00.800
My hope ain't in the government. See, I I gonna

972
00:54:00.800 --> 00:54:03.239
tell you all long time ago, don't trust the government.

973
00:54:05.480 --> 00:54:09.159
I could have told you that long time ago. Some

974
00:54:09.239 --> 00:54:13.400
of you just now realizing it. You know, I'm worried

975
00:54:13.400 --> 00:54:14.679
about to go I could have told you that. Our

976
00:54:14.760 --> 00:54:17.559
people couldn't told you long time you go home. That's

977
00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:20.760
not where your hope should be. Hey, man, you know

978
00:54:20.800 --> 00:54:22.519
where your hope ought to be. Your hope ought to

979
00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:23.559
be in him. Din.

980
00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:27.079
Now I see This is one of the things that

981
00:54:27.119 --> 00:54:29.599
can make this difficult when we're dealing with this is

982
00:54:29.840 --> 00:54:33.679
a lot of the points are good, a lot of

983
00:54:33.679 --> 00:54:36.360
the points are great. Our hope should be in Him,

984
00:54:36.559 --> 00:54:40.880
absolutely great. I got no problem with the point here.

985
00:54:41.480 --> 00:54:44.480
So you if you took the story here and you

986
00:54:44.519 --> 00:54:50.320
did it this way. In this text, they were faced

987
00:54:50.599 --> 00:54:54.639
with an insurmountable problem which there was no hope for them.

988
00:54:54.679 --> 00:54:56.960
There was no way to overcome it. It was beyond

989
00:54:57.000 --> 00:55:03.480
their ability. That was beyond anything well we face. I

990
00:55:03.480 --> 00:55:06.119
mean again, you can't apply it to every day life

991
00:55:06.159 --> 00:55:08.719
because God may not intervene. You have no idea what

992
00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:10.519
God's going to do, so you really can't apply it

993
00:55:10.519 --> 00:55:12.800
to that. You could say, I guess you could do

994
00:55:12.840 --> 00:55:17.239
it this way. Well, our problem, we have problems in life,

995
00:55:17.320 --> 00:55:20.119
but we can't take these promises applying to our problems

996
00:55:20.119 --> 00:55:23.440
in life. But we have insurmountable spiritual problems, which is

997
00:55:23.480 --> 00:55:25.920
our inability to keep God's law and our hope is

998
00:55:25.960 --> 00:55:28.199
only in Christ Jesus. I guess you could draw a

999
00:55:28.199 --> 00:55:31.119
correlation that way. Now you're not saying that this is

1000
00:55:31.239 --> 00:55:35.440
picturing that, because it's not picturing that. It's a historical

1001
00:55:35.519 --> 00:55:38.239
narrative about what God did for them, that he was

1002
00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:40.599
faithful to Israel to do what he said he was

1003
00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:44.000
going to do. But so you got to And again

1004
00:55:44.079 --> 00:55:47.960
it's dangerous to say, see, whatever problem you face, we

1005
00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:50.360
have hope. But now we do have hope in God,

1006
00:55:50.400 --> 00:55:52.519
but our hope is not that God's going to do

1007
00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:55.639
something in the here and now, because there's no guarantee

1008
00:55:55.679 --> 00:55:57.599
he's going to do anything in the here and now.

1009
00:55:57.679 --> 00:56:00.159
So this becomes a very mixed message in depending on

1010
00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:03.840
the way you articulate it. Now, I could say we

1011
00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:06.719
face insurmountable spiritual issue, which is the law of God

1012
00:56:06.760 --> 00:56:09.199
which we cannot overcome and we cannot defeat, and we

1013
00:56:09.199 --> 00:56:12.159
can't do anything. We can only trust in God. But

1014
00:56:12.199 --> 00:56:15.079
that's really not the point of Joshua anyway, right, that's

1015
00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:17.880
still not the point of the text. If I want

1016
00:56:17.920 --> 00:56:23.119
to try to draw some kind of application, maybe that

1017
00:56:23.159 --> 00:56:26.800
would be at least much more philologically consistent, and philologically

1018
00:56:27.119 --> 00:56:30.639
it's much more biblically and theologically consistent to say, their

1019
00:56:30.880 --> 00:56:34.880
insurmountable opposition is us facing the law of God which

1020
00:56:34.920 --> 00:56:37.639
we cannot overcome, and God has to be the one

1021
00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:38.480
to take care of it.

1022
00:56:38.559 --> 00:56:38.920
For us.

1023
00:56:39.199 --> 00:56:41.920
That's at least more philologically consistent. If I take this

1024
00:56:41.960 --> 00:56:44.760
and say, when you see your problems, just trust in God.

1025
00:56:45.159 --> 00:56:48.320
Well implying somehow God's going to intervene in your behald,

1026
00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:52.360
there's no guarantee God's going to do anything for you.

1027
00:56:52.360 --> 00:56:54.159
You can have a terminal disease. He's not going to

1028
00:56:54.199 --> 00:56:56.559
make the terminal disease go away. You can have this problem,

1029
00:56:56.559 --> 00:56:59.480
this problem, this problem. There is no guarantee God's going

1030
00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:02.119
to intervene in any way, shape.

1031
00:57:01.920 --> 00:57:08.440
Or form, and not just in any person out there.

1032
00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:12.480
I hope out of being God of this Bible right here, man,

1033
00:57:12.519 --> 00:57:14.800
I hope we have great hope in him. Deny, you

1034
00:57:14.840 --> 00:57:18.800
know what are hoping him? Because of his personality? Do

1035
00:57:18.880 --> 00:57:22.440
you know the personality of God. There's no reason why

1036
00:57:22.480 --> 00:57:24.760
you and I should not know the personality of God.

1037
00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:27.719
You know why the personality of God is interwoven in

1038
00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:31.079
the pages of this King James Bible. The more time

1039
00:57:31.159 --> 00:57:34.280
you spend reading it, the more you learn his personality.

1040
00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:38.079
You never find out, man, what he likes and what

1041
00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:41.119
he don't like. Matter of fact, not even that he

1042
00:57:41.159 --> 00:57:44.480
don't like it, he says he hates it. You find

1043
00:57:44.519 --> 00:57:49.199
out what he loves. Find out what he blesses, find

1044
00:57:49.199 --> 00:57:53.199
out what he enjoys. Find out what brings him pleasure

1045
00:57:53.280 --> 00:57:58.159
and what thrills him. Amen, how he operates, and why

1046
00:57:58.199 --> 00:58:00.760
he does things, and how he does I tell you what, Man,

1047
00:58:01.000 --> 00:58:05.000
we have hope tonight because of him and his personality

1048
00:58:05.079 --> 00:58:07.400
that we find in this book right here, tells me

1049
00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:09.679
he's man. Even though he's a god of wrath and

1050
00:58:09.719 --> 00:58:12.480
a god of judgment. The Bible also says that he's

1051
00:58:12.519 --> 00:58:16.159
a god of great mercies. He's a god that has

1052
00:58:16.320 --> 00:58:20.239
compassions fail, not a man. Bible says he's faithful. Man,

1053
00:58:20.280 --> 00:58:24.440
they knew every morning. Man, we got a great god tonne.

1054
00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:26.679
You know why there's victory and we can't see it

1055
00:58:26.719 --> 00:58:30.199
because of who we're trusted. My hopes in him. The

1056
00:58:30.280 --> 00:58:32.960
song says, my hope has been on nothing less but

1057
00:58:33.079 --> 00:58:37.840
Jesus blood and his righteousness on Christ, the solid rock

1058
00:58:37.880 --> 00:58:42.159
I stand. All other ground is sinking sand. There's no

1059
00:58:42.239 --> 00:58:45.360
one better. He has not failed in the past, and

1060
00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:48.960
he was not gonna fail now. He came through for

1061
00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:52.159
the nation of Israel. He met their need before man,

1062
00:58:52.239 --> 00:58:55.920
He's gonna meet our need. He's gonna gone forward for us. Man,

1063
00:58:55.920 --> 00:58:57.519
I tell you we serve a great God.

1064
00:58:57.559 --> 00:59:01.679
Today. Our God has not been defeated. Our God is

1065
00:59:01.719 --> 00:59:04.639
not dead it, man, Our God is alive and well

1066
00:59:04.760 --> 00:59:07.639
he's on the throne tonight. Our God ain't worried about

1067
00:59:07.639 --> 00:59:11.559
the election. He's not sitting up there like, oh what

1068
00:59:11.599 --> 00:59:15.360
they're gonna do now? Oh man, they're gonna steal it again.

1069
00:59:16.199 --> 00:59:19.000
Oh man, ah man, the Lord ain't it.

1070
00:59:22.159 --> 00:59:30.159
They're gonna steal it again. Man, Okay, I'm just I'm

1071
00:59:30.159 --> 00:59:33.079
just gonna let it go. We're almost at sixty minutes.

1072
00:59:33.679 --> 00:59:44.440
This not gonna get into all this. I just don't

1073
00:59:44.440 --> 00:59:45.880
even know. All right, here we go.

1074
00:59:47.280 --> 00:59:51.719
They're worried by any conspiracy theory whatsoever. None of that

1075
00:59:51.800 --> 00:59:57.559
bothers him. A man, Why he's un control tonight. There's

1076
00:59:57.679 --> 01:00:00.639
victory tonight and the Lord tonight. Because our hope is

1077
01:00:00.679 --> 01:00:04.360
in him. My hope is not just in our money system.

1078
01:00:05.920 --> 01:00:08.079
Our hope in today is not just because I'm an

1079
01:00:08.119 --> 01:00:11.440
American and live in this great country. My hope is

1080
01:00:11.480 --> 01:00:13.760
not just because I got good friends and I got

1081
01:00:13.760 --> 01:00:18.400
a good church. My hope is in Him tonight. I'm

1082
01:00:18.440 --> 01:00:21.159
glad I'm saved, and not I'm glad. I know I'm

1083
01:00:21.159 --> 01:00:24.559
going to heaven. My dad is a Baptist night, he's

1084
01:00:24.599 --> 01:00:27.599
a Baptist preacher, king jan Bible believing Baptist preacher. He's

1085
01:00:27.639 --> 01:00:30.559
missionary to our people, the Navijo folk. Man. He just

1086
01:00:30.599 --> 01:00:32.639
started another when one church out there in the New

1087
01:00:32.679 --> 01:00:35.800
Mexico side of the reservation. This church he's got going

1088
01:00:35.840 --> 01:00:37.320
out there, man, I mean he's there. He is about

1089
01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:40.480
seventy but sixty nine, and he's out there just trying

1090
01:00:40.480 --> 01:00:42.760
to do another work for God out there. And you

1091
01:00:42.800 --> 01:00:47.000
know what, because of who he is, I'm not going

1092
01:00:47.000 --> 01:00:49.920
to heaven because of that. My hope is not because

1093
01:00:49.960 --> 01:00:54.719
of my dad. My hope Tony isn't because I'm trusting

1094
01:00:54.800 --> 01:00:58.079
Jesus Christ as my savior or not. If you gonna

1095
01:00:58.079 --> 01:00:59.400
make it, you know how, you're gonna make it through

1096
01:00:59.480 --> 01:01:01.079
Jesus Christ.

1097
01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:06.320
You can see. This is just I mean, I mean,

1098
01:01:06.360 --> 01:01:09.320
this is just I don't really, I don't know what

1099
01:01:09.360 --> 01:01:11.559
you what is this doing to the Book of Joshua.

1100
01:01:11.760 --> 01:01:14.400
It's not going as bad as I thought it was

1101
01:01:14.440 --> 01:01:18.000
going to go, right because now he alluded to a

1102
01:01:18.000 --> 01:01:20.840
book that goes all all this direction. Just turning this

1103
01:01:20.960 --> 01:01:23.000
all the entire Book of Joshua into some kind of

1104
01:01:23.000 --> 01:01:27.960
picture and type, and it's just you know, the subjective craziness.

1105
01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:32.199
He's not going all there. But all he's doing is like, see,

1106
01:01:32.320 --> 01:01:35.840
I've given into thine hand, Jericho, and then from that

1107
01:01:36.639 --> 01:01:40.159
he just extrapolates it and then says, Okay, guys, this

1108
01:01:40.239 --> 01:01:43.239
is all for us. So whatever we face, God's going

1109
01:01:43.280 --> 01:01:46.000
to give us the victory, which implying that's in a

1110
01:01:46.119 --> 01:01:50.039
practical way, then then it begins to fall apart if

1111
01:01:50.039 --> 01:01:54.480
you take it and say God gives us spiritual victory

1112
01:01:54.639 --> 01:01:57.159
when we see no spiritual victory. And what would cause

1113
01:01:57.199 --> 01:02:00.800
us from not seeing spiritual victory the inevitable reality that

1114
01:02:00.840 --> 01:02:03.159
we live in perpetual state of sin. Because God is

1115
01:02:03.159 --> 01:02:04.719
holy calls us to be holy, We're never going to

1116
01:02:04.719 --> 01:02:07.159
be holy as God is holy. Therefore we're always falling short,

1117
01:02:07.239 --> 01:02:10.559
We're always in sin. So what is our hope in Christ? Jesus? Now,

1118
01:02:10.599 --> 01:02:13.519
if I go there, I can see I may not

1119
01:02:13.599 --> 01:02:15.679
be able to see the victory, but there's a victory

1120
01:02:15.679 --> 01:02:17.599
even when I can't see it. Okay, now if you

1121
01:02:17.639 --> 01:02:19.679
want to apply it there. Now, again, this is not

1122
01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:22.000
what Joshua is about in any way, shape or form.

1123
01:02:22.039 --> 01:02:25.119
That's not what Joshua's telling it's not what it's showing,

1124
01:02:25.400 --> 01:02:28.400
and I don't even know if it's you. It's an

1125
01:02:28.440 --> 01:02:34.679
application that is really it's separated from the Book of Joshua,

1126
01:02:34.760 --> 01:02:38.960
but at least it's somewhat philologically consistent. Once you take

1127
01:02:39.039 --> 01:02:41.480
this and try to apply this that you know we

1128
01:02:41.519 --> 01:02:44.119
can have Hey, whatever we face, don't worry about it,

1129
01:02:44.159 --> 01:02:46.480
because we can have victory. But he's not really telling

1130
01:02:46.519 --> 01:02:48.239
me how we can have it. He's just telling me

1131
01:02:48.320 --> 01:02:51.599
that we have it in God. Okay, so he's still

1132
01:02:51.679 --> 01:02:54.119
yet to tell me. And if we can have it,

1133
01:02:54.119 --> 01:02:56.920
then why isn't every Christian just one hundred percent victorious?

1134
01:03:00.119 --> 01:03:02.440
I mean, I mean like it just raises more and

1135
01:03:02.480 --> 01:03:05.639
more questions and becomes more and more problematic. So I

1136
01:03:05.679 --> 01:03:07.119
don't think this is going to go anywhere. We'll just

1137
01:03:07.159 --> 01:03:10.960
listen to another minute or two. You know, maybe it'll

1138
01:03:10.960 --> 01:03:13.440
turn into something later. But as far as you can

1139
01:03:13.480 --> 01:03:16.119
kind of see how it's handling the Book of Joshua,

1140
01:03:16.159 --> 01:03:19.840
and a lot of preaching handles it this way.

1141
01:03:21.679 --> 01:03:26.639
Our hope isn't him The Lord said Joshua, see the victory,

1142
01:03:28.119 --> 01:03:30.760
And Joshua probably kind of thought, well, reason why I'm

1143
01:03:30.760 --> 01:03:34.920
going have victory because of you, Lord. It ain't because

1144
01:03:34.920 --> 01:03:37.320
of our armies, it ain't because of our abilities, ain't

1145
01:03:37.320 --> 01:03:40.559
because of anything. Our hope is in you, Lord, And

1146
01:03:40.599 --> 01:03:42.920
if you don't come through it ain't nothing gonna happen.

1147
01:03:44.280 --> 01:03:46.440
And really, today, I mean, that's the way our life

1148
01:03:46.440 --> 01:03:50.039
should hang upon him. We hang our soul and our

1149
01:03:50.119 --> 01:03:53.559
eternal destination upon him. And said, Lord, I'm going to

1150
01:03:53.599 --> 01:03:56.679
have him because of you, what you've done on Calvary.

1151
01:03:56.840 --> 01:03:59.519
I'm going because I'm trusting you, Lord, God, nothing else

1152
01:04:00.719 --> 01:04:03.280
but they're in our daddy life. Lord. Well, I don't know, Lord,

1153
01:04:03.360 --> 01:04:05.719
I don't know. I know you're taking me to heaven.

1154
01:04:05.760 --> 01:04:07.599
You're getting me out of hell. Lord, and you're gonna

1155
01:04:07.639 --> 01:04:10.639
give me eternal you're giving me eternal life. But Lord,

1156
01:04:10.639 --> 01:04:12.199
today I just don't know if you can help me.

1157
01:04:15.800 --> 01:04:19.800
There's victory tonight. You can get deliverance tonight. You can

1158
01:04:19.840 --> 01:04:23.079
get some help tonight. You can overcome something tonight, you

1159
01:04:23.079 --> 01:04:27.480
can get through it tonight, you can endure tonight. You

1160
01:04:27.519 --> 01:04:30.840
know why now what our hope is in him? Amen

1161
01:04:31.800 --> 01:04:34.000
number two here now you know you know why. There's hope,

1162
01:04:34.239 --> 01:04:37.280
yes good and not hope, but there's victory there's victory tonight. Man,

1163
01:04:37.320 --> 01:04:40.159
there's victory, and when we don't see it, when we

1164
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just heed these instructions that he gives, just heed his instructions.

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The Lord told specifically to Joshua, how they were gonna

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take down Jericho.

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All right, the way you get victory is you just

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keep the instructions and then you have victory. So then

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01:05:03.480 --> 01:05:05.519
is that God giving me the victory? Or am I

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01:05:05.639 --> 01:05:09.119
earning the victory? If the way I get victory is

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01:05:09.199 --> 01:05:12.159
just follow the instructions, so that would be every law.

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01:05:12.320 --> 01:05:14.039
So I got to keep the law perfectly. If I

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01:05:14.119 --> 01:05:16.639
keep the law perfectly, I have victory. Well, if it's

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01:05:16.639 --> 01:05:18.960
God giving me the victory, well, then for God to

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01:05:18.960 --> 01:05:21.679
give me the victory, then I would keep all the instructions.

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01:05:23.800 --> 01:05:28.079
I don't even understand. Hey, you want victory, just keep

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01:05:28.119 --> 01:05:31.159
the instructions. If you keep the instructions, you have victory.

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01:05:32.960 --> 01:05:35.800
So I can keep the instructions perfectly. So is it

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God giving me the ability to keep the victory to

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01:05:38.639 --> 01:05:41.320
keep the instructions? And if God's the one giving me

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01:05:41.360 --> 01:05:43.440
the ability to keep the instructions, then I should be

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01:05:43.440 --> 01:05:45.159
able to keep up perfectly. So why don't we keep

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01:05:45.159 --> 01:05:49.360
it perfectly. Okay, then this just becomes But now once

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01:05:49.400 --> 01:05:51.760
again he's just going now through the chapter and just

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01:05:51.760 --> 01:05:55.280
making this all about us and making it somehow instructions

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01:05:55.320 --> 01:05:57.880
for us. This is this is not.

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He said. You know how you're gonna be Jericho. He says,

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gonna take you a week. It's gonna take you seven days.

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You're not gonna do them on in the first day,

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and each day, you know what, You're gonna get up.

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01:06:12.119 --> 01:06:14.840
You're gonna have these men march. You gonna have these

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priests go forward with rams horns, You're gonna have the arc,

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01:06:18.079 --> 01:06:20.440
you gonna have these guys man, these wars in the bank,

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01:06:20.639 --> 01:06:24.039
and you're gonna march around this thing. And man, he said, Matthew,

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01:06:24.119 --> 01:06:26.639
march on just one time, he said, And you can

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01:06:26.679 --> 01:06:32.400
go back to the camp and do nothing else. Then

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01:06:32.480 --> 01:06:34.440
that next day you're gonna get up. You're gonna do

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that again the next day. I mean, he gave detail instructions,

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he said. Then on that seventh day, you know what

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you can do, he said, May You're gonna get up

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01:06:43.559 --> 01:06:45.159
there and you can go march around that thing. Man

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01:06:45.519 --> 01:06:47.519
on that day only you can march around seven times. There.

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01:06:47.599 --> 01:06:51.480
You can go all around, not just once. Then on

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01:06:51.519 --> 01:06:53.360
that final day, he said, Man, after you've done that

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01:06:53.360 --> 01:06:56.480
final march, you that you're gonna shout to the victory,

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He said, then them are gonna fall down flat. The

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Lord gave them exactly how to get victory. He laid

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it out for them. Now you know there were some

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01:07:09.280 --> 01:07:15.159
people in there that thought you kidding me. Lord, there's

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01:07:15.159 --> 01:07:18.639
probably some men in there, probably like myself. Now, Lord,

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01:07:18.639 --> 01:07:24.159
give us some ar fifteens. Amen, give us some ar fifteens. Man,

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01:07:24.239 --> 01:07:28.880
some grenade launchers. Man, we'll take this wall down. Give

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01:07:28.960 --> 01:07:31.280
us some nods. We'll go in at night. Man, we'll

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01:07:31.320 --> 01:07:33.960
go there and infiltrate man, an attackt and man, we'll

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01:07:34.079 --> 01:07:38.199
take all everything out. Man, we'll sneak up there. Lord's

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01:07:38.199 --> 01:07:40.480
a no. You know how it's gonna be done, the

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01:07:40.519 --> 01:07:43.360
way I tell you to do it. You wanna get

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01:07:43.360 --> 01:07:48.039
a victory night, You gotta heed his instructions. Amen, you

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01:07:48.079 --> 01:07:51.559
know I'll go step further. You gotta heed God's men

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01:07:51.679 --> 01:07:54.920
in this thing. Joshua is the one that told him

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01:07:54.960 --> 01:07:58.000
how to do it, and you gotta follow Joshua. God

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01:07:58.039 --> 01:08:00.440
gives I believe this now. God gives every every church

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01:08:00.519 --> 01:08:03.800
or pastor I'm thankful I got a pastor tonight, Brother

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01:08:03.880 --> 01:08:07.559
Tim Spades, pastor of Liberty Baptist Church, pel City, Alabama.

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It's my pastor. Amen. He calls checks on us, helps

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01:08:13.199 --> 01:08:15.320
us with things, man, And when I need advice, I

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01:08:15.400 --> 01:08:18.880
call him. Ask him. I worried about people who don't

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01:08:18.880 --> 01:08:22.760
have a pastor. He said, why, because, man, who do

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01:08:22.800 --> 01:08:27.239
you follow him? I have not arrived. I've got saved

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nineteen eighty three. I surrendered preach in nineteen ninety three.

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But you know what, that doesn't mean I arrived anything.

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01:08:35.760 --> 01:08:37.840
I appreciate a pastor and now and then I saidro Terrence,

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01:08:37.840 --> 01:08:42.720
you need to do this. You need to do that way, Amen,

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01:08:43.479 --> 01:08:44.960
you want a lot of people don't like it, don't

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01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:45.359
like to do that.

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So he's just taking don't I don't even know how

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01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:58.760
it would. Yeah, they don't even know what to do

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01:08:58.840 --> 01:09:05.720
with any of this. I didn't even get to my notes.

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I actually have notes on the on the on some

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of the issues with this and the way this is

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typically handled and the way this is typically approached. When

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a pastor takes the Book of Joshua and interprets it

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01:09:19.800 --> 01:09:22.680
as picturing the Christian life for spiritual warfare. This approach

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01:09:22.840 --> 01:09:27.880
is subjective and represents a mix a mix of allegorical

1245
01:09:28.119 --> 01:09:33.640
and topological hermeneutics. This approach is typically inconsistent with a literal, grammatical,

1246
01:09:33.680 --> 01:09:37.359
and historical hermeneutic and relies heavily on interpretive methods that

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01:09:37.399 --> 01:09:45.800
can be problematic if not applied carefully. Now he didn't.

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He's not going it as bad as I have heard,

1249
01:09:48.039 --> 01:09:50.640
but it's he's walking through it, saying this is for us,

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01:09:50.680 --> 01:09:52.560
This is for us, this for us, and and and

1251
01:09:52.720 --> 01:09:55.199
and and and. The issue is when you start doing this,

1252
01:09:55.399 --> 01:10:01.520
the philological problems it creates, the fil logical problem it creates.

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01:10:01.560 --> 01:10:04.399
So you want victory, just follow the instructions. So the

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01:10:04.479 --> 01:10:07.760
instructions is God's work. All right, I want victory. I

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01:10:07.800 --> 01:10:11.159
just obey the word. So that means I can obey

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01:10:11.199 --> 01:10:13.399
it perfectly. Well no you can't. Well, then I'll never

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01:10:13.439 --> 01:10:15.600
have victory because I can never can keep the instructions.

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01:10:15.720 --> 01:10:17.720
Well you can have some victory. Well again, how do

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01:10:17.760 --> 01:10:20.680
you measure victory? If we're measuring are we measuring victory

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01:10:20.680 --> 01:10:23.039
in the most practical way? Are we measuring it in

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01:10:23.079 --> 01:10:25.880
a spiritual philological way? If I'm measuring it in a

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01:10:25.880 --> 01:10:28.800
philological way, victory is being holy as He is holy,

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01:10:28.960 --> 01:10:31.079
because that's the standard. I'm never going to do that.

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Therefore I'm never truly victorious. But in Christ Jesus, I'm

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01:10:34.920 --> 01:10:37.399
victorious because in my position, I am holy as He

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01:10:37.479 --> 01:10:39.640
is holy. All right, So then that's the victory we

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01:10:39.640 --> 01:10:42.159
should refer to. If we're referring to practical victory, it

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01:10:42.199 --> 01:10:45.239
becomes very very very very very very very very subjective.

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You can look at one area say well, you're victorious,

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but you're not ultimately victorious. And now he's saying that

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we have to listen to the pastor, well, how much

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01:10:57.439 --> 01:11:00.560
do we listen to the pastor? Because of the same time,

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01:11:00.920 --> 01:11:03.680
in the non Catholic world, the people are supposed to

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01:11:03.680 --> 01:11:05.680
be judging whether the pastor is preaching that which is

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01:11:05.720 --> 01:11:08.159
true or false. So are you really listening to the pastor?

1276
01:11:08.199 --> 01:11:10.720
You're listening to yourself because you're the one making the

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01:11:10.760 --> 01:11:14.119
determination whether the pastor is right or wrong. So then

1278
01:11:14.119 --> 01:11:23.600
who's really the authority, the pastor or you? I want

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01:11:23.600 --> 01:11:38.039
to keep going, but yeah, I mean, yeah, it's more

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01:11:38.159 --> 01:11:45.840
of the just this. I mean, I don't even know anymore. Literally,

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01:11:46.039 --> 01:11:48.039
I just think we can just make the text do

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01:11:48.159 --> 01:11:50.800
whatever we want it to do. We literally can't. And

1283
01:11:50.840 --> 01:11:53.680
there's really very I mean, everyone can say you're wrong,

1284
01:11:53.960 --> 01:11:57.239
but who really can say anyone is wrong. It's just

1285
01:11:57.720 --> 01:12:01.920
it's just chaos. And so yeah, now this is much

1286
01:12:01.960 --> 01:12:07.000
more reasonable than I have heard, making some good spiritual points.

1287
01:12:07.079 --> 01:12:09.479
I'm not disagreeing with all the points. It's just like,

1288
01:12:10.079 --> 01:12:16.520
but how are you using Joshua six for this? And

1289
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you're just raising other theilological issues. But again, in most

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01:12:20.279 --> 01:12:23.159
Christians' mind, they don't care about the philological issues.

1291
01:12:23.199 --> 01:12:23.479
They don't.

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01:12:23.720 --> 01:12:25.640
They don't, they're not worried about it. They don't even care.

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01:12:25.680 --> 01:12:28.800
If it's consistent, if it just sounds good, if it

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01:12:28.920 --> 01:12:32.520
just preaches good, if it and if it doesn't appear

1295
01:12:32.560 --> 01:12:36.039
to go against your your system of theology, then it's

1296
01:12:36.039 --> 01:12:38.960
all good. And how it's being interpreted, how the text

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01:12:39.000 --> 01:12:42.319
is being handled, nobody cares. And tomorrow, all across the

1298
01:12:42.399 --> 01:12:45.079
United States of America, people will go to church, and

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01:12:45.199 --> 01:12:47.119
who knows how the text is going to be handled.

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01:12:47.119 --> 01:12:49.279
I know this, it's going to be handled differently than

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01:12:49.279 --> 01:12:51.680
it's handled somewhere else, and it may be contradicting how

1302
01:12:51.680 --> 01:12:54.000
it's being held somewhere else. And you will think your

1303
01:12:54.119 --> 01:12:56.239
church is right, and they will think their church is right,

1304
01:12:56.520 --> 01:12:58.560
and they will and you will think your church studied

1305
01:12:58.560 --> 01:13:00.520
the Bibble correctly, and they will think think their church

1306
01:13:00.560 --> 01:13:03.399
study the Bible correctly. You will judge them, they will

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01:13:03.479 --> 01:13:05.600
judge you, and everyone will go home thinking that they're

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01:13:05.680 --> 01:13:10.680
right in their own eyes. But both can't be right.

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And it's been going on for two thousand years. The

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01:13:19.039 --> 01:13:21.760
number of interpretations, the number of ways of handling the

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01:13:21.760 --> 01:13:27.079
text are innumerable, and it's you can't even measure how

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01:13:27.159 --> 01:13:42.279
much contradiction has been put forth. All right, I'll stop there.

1313
01:13:42.319 --> 01:13:43.720
I mean, I don't know what to do. It's seventy

1314
01:13:43.720 --> 01:13:45.520
three minutes. I don't know. I mean, I could just

1315
01:13:45.600 --> 01:13:49.159
keep pressing forward. But when we're getting the idea of

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01:13:49.199 --> 01:13:51.159
how the text is being handled, most likely if we

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01:13:51.239 --> 01:13:54.920
keep listening. Most likely, if we keep listening, it will

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01:13:54.920 --> 01:13:59.119
become almost like this, this represent I mean, he's already

1319
01:13:59.119 --> 01:14:01.920
made it very clear. Our problems are the walls of Jericho,

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01:14:02.239 --> 01:14:04.520
and God gives us victory even when we can't see it,

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01:14:04.560 --> 01:14:07.720
and our hope is in him, almost implying that he

1322
01:14:07.720 --> 01:14:09.640
can make the walls come down. Well, how do you

1323
01:14:09.680 --> 01:14:12.079
get the victory. Well, you've just got to follow the instructions.

1324
01:14:12.760 --> 01:14:15.520
So why because God gave them specific instructions, so well,

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01:14:15.520 --> 01:14:17.479
then what would be our instructions would be the law.

1326
01:14:17.560 --> 01:14:19.640
So if we just keep so, then this seems to imply,

1327
01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:22.840
is this taking it from a Pelagious a Pelagian view

1328
01:14:22.880 --> 01:14:24.880
that we have the ability to keep there's just one

1329
01:14:24.920 --> 01:14:29.439
theological problem after another theological problem after another theological problem,

1330
01:14:29.600 --> 01:14:32.760
and that's that's the never ending issue. And you're not

1331
01:14:32.800 --> 01:14:39.039
supposed to ever ask those questions though in preaching. All right,

1332
01:14:42.399 --> 01:14:49.000
this did not help everyone have a great evening. Hopefully

1333
01:14:49.000 --> 01:14:51.800
it's better than the way I feel right now because

1334
01:14:51.840 --> 01:14:55.760
I'm just like I just I just I don't know,

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I just don't know. Thanks for listening, God bless