April 8, 2025

Fear: Law and Gospel Pt 1

Fear: Law and Gospel Pt 1

We examine how Christianity typically handles the subject of fear and how a proper law and gospel understanding frees us

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We examine how Christianity typically handles the subject of fear and how a proper law and gospel understanding frees us

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Looking at our world from a theological perspective.

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This is the Theology Central podcast, making Theology Central. Good

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evening everyone. It is Tuesday, April the eighth, twenty twenty five.

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It is currently six forty three pm Central Time, and

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I'm coming to you live from the Theology Central studio

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located right here in Abilene, Texas. Well. We've been talking

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about a lot of controversial things over the last few broadcasts.

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Right We've talked a little bit about Salem, all of

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the fear, the panic, the paranoia. We have talked about

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the Great Satanic Panic of the nineteen eighties, fear, worry, anxiety, panic.

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We talked about the album Hell Awaits by the bands

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Slayer and All the Fear, Panic Can Worry in Anxiety.

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That album into the country in the midst of the

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Great Satanic Panic. In fact, the album was released on

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April eighth, nineteen eighty five. Today's what forty year anniversary

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of that album. We talked about that. We've talked about

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things that maybe typically Christian podcast may not even discuss

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or talk about, which again, hopefully is some evidence some

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proof that, you know, maybe there's a reason this podcast

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exists because we try to do things a little different.

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We don't try to follow the template that everyone else follows.

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And hopefully all of that has been interesting. But did

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you notice in a lot of what we talked about,

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we talked about fear, we talked about panic, we talked

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about anxiety, we talked about worry. And that's within the church,

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within the Christian world, within the Christian world. So I

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think that that's very interesting, and I think there's a

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lot we could we could talk about in regards to it.

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But I had kind of moved on, right, I kind

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of moved on. Okay, I covered all of that. I

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went back and listened to the last one. I could

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have done things a little bit better, but okay, there

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was a couple of times I got my notes got

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messed up, but I think for the most part, I

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did pretty good. To me, I do all of the

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broadcast live, so you know, there's no like editing or

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second take. So I'm thinking, okay, let's move on. And

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then I went to my mailbox. And then my mailbox

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was a Sword of the Lord newspaper, so I brought

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it and I threw it down on the stack of

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all of my other sort of the Lord newspapers. Because

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I have a lot of them, and a little while ago,

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I sat down here in front of the microphone, going, well,

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what should I broadcast tonight? I should do something tonight

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because I just feel like all of that discussion about

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Slayer and the hell Awaits album, that's gonna make a

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lot of people med. They're not going to like it.

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You know, maybe I could do something a little different.

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And so then I kind of looked down started going

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through the sort of the Lord newspapers, and I saw

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an article in the February the twenty first, twenty twenty

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five edition of the sort of Lord newspaper, on page

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twenty one, faithfully facing your fears fearlessly. Faithfully facing your

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fears fearlessly. I'm like, okay, well that's about fear. Do

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we face our fears fearlessly? Well, my first thought kind

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of I kind of laughed, I kind of chuckled. Well, clearly,

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in history, Christians have not faced their fears fearlessly because

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they they go into complete panic. And while twenty people

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die in Salem and sanity erupts in the late seventies

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eighties through the you know, for the Great Satanic Panic

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and all the other times where the Illuminati is going

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to get us, and this is going to happen, and

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this is going to happen, and it's fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear.

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So I'm like, in some ways the church never really

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handles it. And then on the other hand, the church

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preaches constantly fear that's a sign of spiritual immaturity, a

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lack of faith. Stop worrying, stop fearing, and they come

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after you telling you you should not have a spirit

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of fear. So on one hand, it's fear, panic, worry, anxiety.

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On the other hand, it's don't fear because it's a

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spiritual problem and it's a sin. And I'm like, I

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don't really know if the church has a good theology

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on fear. So I was just sitting here kind of

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running all of this through my head, and then I thought,

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you know what, I think the problem constantly in the

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modern church is that the church does not have a

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proper law gospel distinction. I talk about this all the time.

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I've even said the most important series I've ever done

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is on the proper understanding of law and Gospel. So

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I'm like, let's talk about fear and do so through

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a law gospel lens through a law gospel perspective. Most

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people have never heard a discussion about fear through a

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law gospel distinction. This should be interesting. We can take

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a long and winding road to get there, but I

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think once we get there, people should be like wow, whoa, Wow,

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I never heard that. Hopefully that's the reaction. Now, the

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reaction may end up being like, yeah, who cares. But

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I hope that the reaction will be like whoa. I

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gotta share this with all my friends. But I don't

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know if that will happen. But that's my goal. Now.

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That's going to take us a while to get there.

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So first, let's do this from the Sword of the

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Lord newspaper. I'm just gonna read some paragraphs here, all right,

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let's start right here. This is the third paragraph in

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the article. Again, this article is entitled titled Faithfully Facing

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your Fears Fearlessly. I believe this article is very much

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a law approach to fear, definitely not law gospel. There's

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all kinds of problems with it, but I'm not here

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to necessarily take it apart. I'm just gonna use this

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to get us into a good philological discussion. Are you ready,

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here we go, paragraph three. Fear is defined in the

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dictionary as painful emotion marked by alarm state or habit

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of fearing anxious concern. Fear produces dread, which often results

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in apprehension and anxiety, accompanied by loss of courage. Let

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me go through that again. Fear is defined in the

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Dictionary as painful emotion marked by alarm state or habit

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of fearing, anxious concern. Fear produces dread, which often results

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in apprehension, anxiety, accompanied by loss of courage. Now, I

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don't know if you're in a position to do this,

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but if you've got a notebook, a journal, just right now,

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just honestly, now, No, you don't have to let anybody

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see you're not in church. Ok, you're not in church

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because in church we have to pretend. Right, everyone's got

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to put on their little mask and we all got

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to pretend. But we're not in church. That's one of

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the wonderful things about a podcast. Right. I don't know

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where you are. You can you can take your phone

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and walk away and go hide in a in an

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empty room somewhere or a closet. You can go outside,

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you can go for a drive wherever. You need to be,

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but I want you to write down. Come on, what

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do you really fear? Really fear? What do you really

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worry about? You have anxiety about, You get stressed out,

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you get you get upset, you get bothered. I know,

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I know you're supposed to say. I'm a Christian. The

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spirit of God cast out all fear. God did not

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give me a mind of fear, but of courage, of

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a sound mind. He did not give me a spirit

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of fear, but a sound mind courage. That's what he

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I'm not to worry. I'm not to worry about tomorrow.

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I'm not to have any anxiety. I'm to cast all

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of that upon God, and the peace of God will

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pass all understanding. I know all the scriptures are what

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I'm supposed to do. I know you're supposed to say

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all of that, and I know some of those I

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wasn't quoting those scriptures exactly right. We will look at

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them and I will quote them more accurately. But you

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get the idea. Come on, what do you fear? Come on,

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be honest. I know I'm minya. I don't fear anything.

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I'm not scared of anything. Oh, I hear a lot

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of that big talk. But come on, deep down, you

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know what I find fascinating. I see on all the

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colleges that I've attended, seminaries, Bible colleges, all of the

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things I had to do in the United States Military,

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Airman Leadership School, in CEO Academy, all the different schools

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I went to get it working on a degree for

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what I did in the military, All the different things

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and all schools I had to over and over and over.

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I was put in play positions where I either had

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to take speech class class give speeches, had to do

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speeches in the military, And you know what I found,

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real big tough guys who supposedly weren't afraid of anything,

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fell completely apart when it came to public speaking. And

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some people have said that some people fear public speaking

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more than they do death. Now, if you were to

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ask them what do you fear, they would say nothing

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until put in the position that they had to give

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a speech. And over and over and over, I would

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always be called in, Hey, these people, they're gonna they

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got to give a speech, and they're scared to death,

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and so I would try to help them and see

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what I could do to, you know, give them some

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tips because I did never. I never had a problem

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with public speaking. It was never, never an issue for me,

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so but for others it was. And it's not because

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I'm brave, No, because I got plenty of other things

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that I fear and other things that I'm scared of.

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But I want let's be honest. We all have fear.

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I guess that's what I want us to do. I

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want us to all to admit we have fear, we

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have worries, we have anxiety. I know we say we're

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not supposed to and I know as Christians we try

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to claim that we don't. But there's fear, and there's worry,

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and there's anxiety, and there's paranoia, and there's all kinds

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of other things that shows up in the life of Christians,

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just like it shows anywhere else. I was in the military,

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found myself in some very you know, difficult situations, and

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guess what, the Christians were just as scared and worried

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in those situations as the non Christians. Fear, worry, anxiety,

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right right, admit it. At least. The article goes on

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to say, fear can cause one to be restless, it

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can weigh upon the soul like a mountain, slowing down

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spiritual progress as well as hindering effective service. It can

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rob one of spiritual joy and cause the heart to

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fear each new day. In other words, fear, anxiety, worry

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can have very negative consequences, not only spiritually, but emotionally, mentally, relationships,

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so many other things. It can have impact on. The

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article goes on to say a nationally prominent psychologist, in

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his book on Man's Fears, lists a total of two

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hundred and eighty eight fears. Now, this article does not

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give me the name of the book, so I cannot verify,

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cannot check. I didn't bother to ask Ai where this

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supposedly comes from. But let's just say it's true. There

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are two one hundred and eighty eight fears. The article

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goes on. Of all fears cited, six rise to the top,

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the fear of poverty, the fear of criticism, the fear

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of rejection, the fear of illness, the fear of old age,

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and the fear of death. He states that the fear

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of rejection is the greatest of all, stronger than the

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fear of death. Do you fear being rejected? Do you

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fear being the outcast, not received, the laughingstock, mocked, nobody

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likes you. Do you want to be accepted? Are you

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afraid to stand out different than everyone else? Oh? I

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know you're a Christian and you say God has given

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me the spirit of power and sound mind. I know

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what you're supposed to say. Stop the church talk. Okay,

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this podcast does not allow for church talk. Forget that.

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I can't stand church talk. I hate it. I loathe it.

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I despise it. Right, I used to do that when

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I when I was teaching youth in a church in Nebraska,

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and they would come walking into the youth room like

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you see the trash can put your church mask down,

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put it right there, just leave it, leave it. I

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don't want your I don't care church kids. I know

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you know all the right answer. I don't care about

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your church answers. I just need you to be real

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and authentic. That's the only place we can get anywhere.

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We don't have to be all pretend. We don't have

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to show up and pretend to be saints when we

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all know we're aints, all right? Oh that that that

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that was pretty clever, wasn't it. Not really, it's pretty

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old saying. But you get the idea. Some fear high places,

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others fear low places. Still others fear being squeezed into

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close a close space or small space claustophobia, Right, do

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you have that? Some people are scared of heights? What

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are you scared of? Here's some Now I'm probably gonna

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mispronounce every one of these. So so I'm gonna fear

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looking stupid here, but I'm gonna confront my fear by

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doing this. How about my sophobia? My sophobia the fear

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of dirt or germs? M Y s O P h

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and I do it all the time and I end

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up looking stupid and I feel humiliated. But my sophobia,

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there's one. Do you have that phobia? Do you have

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the fear of dirt or germs? Do you? I worked

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very long time, and I had a person who worked

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for me, and he he was a germaphobe. He was

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constantly worried, and so he would like even he would

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wear like gloves, even eating his food. Right, he didn't

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e in one his hand, touching foot, even if he

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cleaned his hands, it was like it was over the top.

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He was always always had a mask on. I mean,

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this is way before COVID. I mean it didn't matter.

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He didn't want to He didn't want to be around

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anyone anything. I think he I think he almost had

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a nervous breakdown. Even just walking into work. He was like,

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I'm in a hospital. There's germs around. I'm like, how

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did you end up in the medical world? I don't understand, Okay,

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but he definitely had a fear of germs. Do you

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have a fear of dirt? I live in West Texas.

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gonna have to move. But that's that's my See. I

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just I thought I said it all correctly, and then

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I say it incorrectly. Mysophobia. How about hydrophobia, the fear

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of water? Are you scared of water? Are you some

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people are scared to death. They don't like it in

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any way, shape or form. They don't want to swim,

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they don't want to be on a boat. How about nicktophobia,

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the fear of darkness? Nicktophobia the fear of darkness? Do

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you have the fear of darkness. Now, when I was little,

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other kids were scared of the dark. I never was.

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I always I didn't want a night light. I didn't

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want any lights anywhere. And a lot of times, I

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know this is gonna you're gonna say, no, wonder, You're

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you're weird, Okay, But when I was a kid, they

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would be like, if anybody was looking for me, if

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they wanted to find me, I typically was like, you

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could find me inside a closet, pitch dark, pitch dark,

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and I would have like a little radio in there,

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just listening to the radio. I like being in a

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dark place. I like darkness. I like it dark. Even now,

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if I go to sleep there can't be a light anywhere.

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I will cover up every known light I can find.

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I want the room so dark that I can't see anything.

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Like So, I'm definitely not afraid of darkness. I'm not.

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Are you afraid of darkness? That's nicktophobia. How about not

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this one. I'm gonna get all wrong. T half a phobia, tapophobia.

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Now I'm gonna get that one right. I got that

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one right, taphophobia, I got that one right. That's the

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fear of being buried alive, tafophobia? Are you afraid of

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being buried alive? And even saying I'm not afraid of

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being buried alive? Are you? Are you sure? Are you not?

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All right? Are you not? Are you sure? Because I

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bet you if you put in a situation where you

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thought you were about to be buried alive, you would

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get very scared, very quick. I know I would. Okay,

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I know, I can't even think about that, like being

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buried alive, that would be that's gotta be the Can

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you imagine someone puts you in a box, they know

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it shut, and then all of a sudden they drop

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you in a hole and you hear the dirt being

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dropped on top of it. Come on, does that not

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start making you Your heart start pounding a little faster,

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and you're just in there. You feel like you're suffocating.

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But you're a Christian. You're not supposed to have any fear,

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no worry, no anxiety. Oh well, and then, of course

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won't make five hundred exceptions. But okay, how about xenophobia

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the fear of strangers are foreigners. That's been talked about now.

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Some people say xenophobia, that's one of that that's woke stuff. Okay,

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all right, Xenophobia is a real phobia, right, How about him?

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A taphobia? Hima taphobia? I think I'm saying that right

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him A taophobia? That's the fear of blood. What happens

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when you see blood? What happens when you see a

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blood hum atophobia? I think I'm seeing it correctly. See,

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I have more. I have more of a fear of

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seeing it incorrectly than I have the fear of blood.

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But do you get what happens some people when they

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see bloody they're gone. I remember we were in basic

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training military. I don't know where we were at. I

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don't know if it was like, I don't know what

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building we were in, because when you're in basic training,

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you spend most of your time. I'm just marching looking forward.

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You don't. You can't see what's around you. You're always

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looking at the person right in front of you. Leof loop,

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leof bruh. And you're like, okay, I can't say I

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want to look around, I want to take this in, okay,

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but all you do so. I don't know where we were,

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but we were getting blood drawn. I don't even know

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why they were taking our blood. You never asked questions. Right,

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It's like when we got when you get to basic

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training and get your vaccine, that's put you in a

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line with the people with those guns and you're just

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getting shot with that everything. You don't even know what

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they're putting in you. You have no idea if they

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say roll up your sleeve or taking your blood, you

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don't have You don't know what's going on. They're always

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sticking you with something. But they were, they were taking blood,

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and the person sitting next to me, obviously you had

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some form of fear of blood something. But they start

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taking they get they're trying to poke the you know,

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the vein, they're trying to hit the vein, and I

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can't remember exactly what happened, but just it was just

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a little bit of blood that came out, and the

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person next to me just like, boom, boom, just drop.

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Just want the sight of blood. Just drop. MoMA. You're

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in the military and the sight of blood makes you

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a drop Hmm. I don't really know how this is

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gonna work out for you. How about necrophobia the fear

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of dead, of the dead or death necrophobia? Do you

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have the fear of dead people or the fear of death. Now,

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I think sometimes some people don't like to be around

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a dead body. They may that may make them uneasy,

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I think, I think I don't really I like kind

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of separating those, right. The fear of dying, I think

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is very different than the fear of maybe something about

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making you uneasy about around a dead body. Now, this

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one I'm definitely not going to say correctly. Tris guide decaphobia,

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trisc guide decaphobia. That's the fear of the number thirteen.

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Trisc guide decaphobia. Now, a lot of people have some

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weird phobias, fear superstitions. I worked with a lot of

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these ladies when I worked in an office in the hospital,

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and they had this weird phobia that you could not

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like take off the like we had a calendar there

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and you couldn't remove the calendar until the day of

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If you removed it early then I don't know, you

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would have some kind of bad luck. I'm like, what

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is wrong with you people? And they were like, and

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so I tore it one day and they got furious

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at me, and I'm like, calm down, it's a calendar.

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But so do you have a fear of thirteen, I don't,

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I mean, do you? I don't know. How about agaphobia

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the fear of pain? That's kind of a weird who

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won who's not afraid of pain? I mean, who's like,

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I'm not afraid of pain at all? You know, And

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I'm gonna I'm gonna hit myself in their head with

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a hammer and put a knell through my Isn't everyone

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have a fear of pain? How about photophobia the fear

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of light? Okay, I have the fear of light. Turn

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off the lights. I always want it dark. Maybe maybe

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maybe I'm a vampire. Okay, now I'm joking. I'm not

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a vampire. So those are phobias, those are fears. There's

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so many again, according to this article here, in this

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sort of the word newspaper, they reference a book that

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don't give us the name, two hundred and eighty eight Fears, worries, anxieties.

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Now that seems to tell me that I think everyone

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has their share, their share of fear and worry and anxiety.

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I know we always try to play it down. I

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think it's more there than anybody wants to admit. So

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how has Christianity typically approached the subject of fear and

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maybe phobia and worry and anxiety. Well, the more classic

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evangelical maybe devotional response. Typically it tries to be encouraging,

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but it's often very oversimplified. They basically would say, fear

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is the opposite of faith. Oh you haven't you heard

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that preach fear is the opposite of faith. We do

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not fear. We have faith. And everybody's like, amen, oh

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this is so good, and they write it in their

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notebook and then we're all like, I don't have fear.

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I have faith, everybody, and we all talk a big game.

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We may quote a scripture like the one I was

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misquoting or the one I was horribly paraphrasing Tewod Timothy

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chapter one, verse seven, for God hath not given us

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the spirit of fear, but of power and of love

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and of a sound mind. Now, of course we don't

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bother to put that in any textual historical context. It's

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just like God has not given us a spirit of fear,

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so we don't fear. Christians don't fear. And if you fear,

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that's because you are not responding in faith, and basically

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you are sin and sin because it's a command. Basically,

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that's how it's understood Philippians four six. You can write

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all of these down. You probably have a lot of

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times you're told to memorize these. If you're struggling with

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any fear or worry in anxiety, and you go to

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biblical counseling, you'll be told to memorize these. Put them

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on your refrigerator, put them everywhere. Philippians four to six.

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Be careful for nothing or be anxious for nothing, but

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in everything, by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving thanksgiving, let

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your request be known unto God. We don't respond in fear.

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We respond in faith and prayer. And everybody will be

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like ay Man again, as if we don't have these

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issues Isia, they will quote Isaiah forty one ten fear

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not for I am with you now. Don't even get

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me started on people using Isaiah. But okay, they will

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quote it. Matthew six. Do not worry or take thought

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about your life. That's Matthew six, twenty five through thirty four.

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All of these are like fear is the opposite of faith.

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We do not respond with fear. We respond with faith,

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and we memorize these scriptures, and we quote these scriptures.

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And therefore we overcome fear. Typically, in the classic evangelical

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devotional tradition, it'll be something like anxiety is typically portrayed

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as spiritual weakness. You have anxiety, you have worry, you

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have fear because you're spiritually weak. The solution will go

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something like this, pray more trust God, claim scripture, quote scripture,

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memorize scripture, go to church. Just you're basically giving a

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list of things to do. Basically, it comes down just

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stop doing it, stop it, stop it. And you're like, Okay,

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I'm gonna do it. I don't do it, and I

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don't do it. I don't do it, and well, that's

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typically the way it's kind of it kind of works, right,

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or what you're told fear is treated as a sin

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or lack of trust. Now you're in sin, you don't

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trust God. Now. What this does is almost always ignores

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clinical or neurological aspects of anxiety and panic. It doesn't

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even acknowledges the clinical or neurological aspects of it. Acts

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like that doesn't even exist. It typically induces guilt or

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shame and sufferers, and it usually does not allow space

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for a lament or ongoing struggle. And so it typically

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leads to people pretending claiming that they don't have any fear, worry,

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or anxiety until everything comes crumbling down and you're like

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that seems like you have a lot of fear, worried,

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anxiety for someone who claims that they don't, or you're

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overcome with this, never any sense of guilt and shame.

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Why do I worry? Why am I afraid? Why do

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I have this? Why am I thinking about this? What

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is wrong with me? What is wrong with me? Because

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it's very law based, that's the evangelical devotional tradition. When

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we jump over to the Reformed tradition, so I may

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say the Reformed traditional philological tradition, this tends to be filled,

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logically rich sometimes though it can be very abstract or cold.

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Sometimes it even sounds good. Fear shows our need for Christ. Now,

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I like that fear shows our need for Christ. That's

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getting to a law gospel distinction. And I like that

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that goes back to Luther. Right, this goes back. Remember

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when we say the Reform tradition, forget the modern reform.

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What you see in many modern reform churches, which is

457
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a weird mix of Reformed as far as maybe Calvinism.

458
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But then it obliterates a law gospel distinction, and it's

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almost mixed with a lordship's salvation. It's not even really

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a truly reformed thing. If you're gonna go really truly reformed.

461
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Law gospel is a very part of that tradition that

462
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in many so called reform churches they would know the

463
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distinction between law and gospel if it slapped them across

464
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the phase three times. Fear shows you your need for Christ.

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Keep that in mind. In this tradition, fear would be

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seen as a result of the fall in our separation

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from God. That's why fear exists and would and if

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you wanted to expand upon it. Because of the fall,

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we are all born with corrupt bodies. That's when we

470
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get sick. And guess what isn't a part of being

471
00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:23.960
sick not only an illness, a virus, a disease, not

472
00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:28.680
only breaking a bone, but it can deal with mental, emotional,

473
00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:33.319
neurological sickness and disease that somehow the church ignores as

474
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if that doesn't actually exist. It's weird. If you have depression,

475
00:28:38.359 --> 00:28:42.079
if you're filled with a phobia, worry, anxiety, that's a

476
00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:44.960
spiritual problem. But if you get the flu, or you

477
00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:47.480
get any or you get a heart attack, then that's

478
00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:50.359
not seen as a spiritual issue. Why both of them

479
00:28:50.400 --> 00:28:52.960
are sicknesses that come from the body. Some may come

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from the heart, that may come from the liver, and

481
00:28:54.799 --> 00:28:56.880
may come from the kidneys, that may come from or

482
00:28:56.920 --> 00:28:59.839
it can come from the mind, it can come from emotion.

483
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That we are, we are corrupted, our bodies grown under

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the results of the fall. The fear of the Lord,

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and the reform tradition, they typically say the fear of

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the Lord is the only proper fear. Okay, all other

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00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:21.759
fear should drive us to Christ's sufficiency. I got no

488
00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:26.079
problem with that. Typically the and again I'm saying the

489
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traditional reform view, this is typically not the modern day

490
00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:33.279
reform view, which doesn't really look reform to me. But clearly,

491
00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:37.160
in a traditional reformed view, you're gonna have a clear

492
00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:44.039
law gospel distinction. Fear reveals your weakness, that's what. Hey,

493
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the Bible says, don't fear, don't fear, don't fear, don't fear,

494
00:29:46.960 --> 00:29:49.160
don't fear. Guess what you're going to do. You're going

495
00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:51.559
to fear, You're going to worry, you're going to anxiety

496
00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:54.519
because whatever the command is, we never meet the command.

497
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We never fulfill any command in scripture. You're incapable and

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capable of fulfilling the comm in scripture because you are

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still a sinner, You're still in a fallen body. I

500
00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:05.839
don't care. You can try to claim all day that

501
00:30:05.880 --> 00:30:07.880
when you become a Christian you can do it. You can't.

502
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So all of your fear reveals your weakness, and it

503
00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:21.160
drives you to Christ because Christ is your peace. Christ

504
00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:25.359
is your righteousness. Christ is your obedience to those commands

505
00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:29.319
not to fear. And we will clearly, you know, work

506
00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:31.559
this out in greater detail as we go through all

507
00:30:31.599 --> 00:30:39.000
of this. Typically, in the reform tradition, they will emphasize

508
00:30:39.039 --> 00:30:42.759
assurance and justification. Your assurance is not whether you fear,

509
00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:46.200
don't fear, you have worry, you have anxiety. Your assurance

510
00:30:46.240 --> 00:30:50.200
is in justification because in Christ, his righteousness is imputed

511
00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:53.359
to your account. You stand perfect. That's where your assurance

512
00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:59.440
comes from. However, sometimes in reform circles, especially traditional ones

513
00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:03.880
and even ones, they can minimize emotional or psychological realities.

514
00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:06.519
And that's where once again the Church constantly does this.

515
00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:10.839
It doesn't want to acknowledge emotional and psychological issues. It

516
00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:14.559
always plays that down as it makes it spiritual, spiritual, spiritual.

517
00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:17.359
It's like, well, why do you make that spiritual, but

518
00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:21.039
you don't make that heart disease or this or this

519
00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:24.839
or all these other medical issues. They make that physical. Well,

520
00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:28.640
our bodies are made up, we have a mind, we

521
00:31:28.720 --> 00:31:31.640
have chemicals, we have all the things going on. All

522
00:31:31.720 --> 00:31:34.880
these other things are just as much a we can

523
00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:37.519
call it a disease, we can call it a medical issue,

524
00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:45.400
as any of the others. Sometimes in the reform world

525
00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:49.640
they tend to spiritualize suffering without offering practical mental health solutions.

526
00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:53.839
They can tend to focus on so much on sin

527
00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:57.799
and depravity that those with anxiety feel condemned. Now, in

528
00:31:57.799 --> 00:32:01.039
some ways it's messed up because the reform reform tradition

529
00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:05.119
tends to say law gospel, which should remove that condemned feeling,

530
00:32:05.400 --> 00:32:07.440
But sometimes when it comes they won't really want to

531
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:12.839
acknowledge the psychological and emotional issues, so that it's basically,

532
00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:14.640
this is because of your sin. This is because of

533
00:32:14.680 --> 00:32:16.720
your depravity, This is because of your sin, this is

534
00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:19.480
because of your depravity. Just look to Christ, well, That

535
00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:22.440
does sound good from a theological standpoint, but it's not

536
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:27.400
going to help someone with their fear, worry, anxiety, discouragement, depression,

537
00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:34.359
or anything like that, because those are deeper issues. Now

538
00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:41.000
let's go to the charismatic Pentecostal tradition. Their tone is

539
00:32:41.039 --> 00:32:45.759
typically victorious. You're to be victorious over all fear, victorious

540
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:49.599
over all worry, all anxiety, all doubt, all discouragement, and

541
00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:53.720
it can be very confrontational. And the charismatic world, it's

542
00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:57.680
typically fear is from Satan and must be rebuked. Fear

543
00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:01.680
comes from Satan, it doesn't come from God. So if

544
00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:05.759
you have fear, Satan is doing that. Satan is doing this,

545
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:10.279
and so you have to rebuke it. Typically, in the

546
00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:14.720
charismatic world, fear, anxiety, panic, it's gonna be linked to

547
00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:19.400
demonic oppression. Satan demons are oppressing you. The reason you

548
00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:22.720
have fear anxiety, maybe you're having a panic attack. It's Satan.

549
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:26.279
It's Satan. It's Satan. It's Satan. It's Satan. It's Satan.

550
00:33:26.440 --> 00:33:33.279
It's Satan. Breakthrough is often emphasized, you just gotta you

551
00:33:33.279 --> 00:33:35.759
gotta press on, You gotta grab onto God, hold on

552
00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:38.599
to God, hold on to his promises, Claim his promises,

553
00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:42.880
Profess his promises, Confess his promises. Speak it into existence,

554
00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:45.119
and you will get your breakthrough. And then the demon

555
00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:47.599
the demons will flee from you, and you'll no longer

556
00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:54.079
have fear, worry, anxiety. You'll be fixed. That's so, that's

557
00:33:54.160 --> 00:34:02.480
such the charismatic world. Almost inevitably, they're going to ignore

558
00:34:02.599 --> 00:34:07.400
medical or psychological conditions. Almost all Christian traditions ignore medical

559
00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:12.679
and psychological conditions. They typically blame the sufferer for our

560
00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:15.199
lack of faith or failure to rebuke demons. This is

561
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your fault. You don't have enough faith. You're not rebuking demons.

562
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:20.320
You're not speaking you're not speaking power into existence. You're

563
00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:24.039
not speaking faith into existence. And it almost always lacks

564
00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:29.480
any nuance. So there's the evangelical, there's the kind of

565
00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:33.039
reform or reform a traditional reform view, and there's a

566
00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:38.639
charismatic view. How about a more pastoral counseling approach. Typically,

567
00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:44.559
this approach will be much more compassionate and holistic. It

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00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:47.199
will be something like God meets us in our fear

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and healing may include many tools. Typically, they will recognize

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00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:55.639
that anxiety and panic can be both spiritual and clinical,

571
00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:01.440
and you know what kind of weird. A lot of

572
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:05.360
times this approach doesn't happen inside the church. This happens

573
00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:08.079
outside the church, which is kind of weird because this

574
00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:11.519
is sometimes referred to as the pastoral or counseling approach,

575
00:35:11.639 --> 00:35:13.000
but in many cases you have to go to a

576
00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:15.360
counselor because you're not going to get it in the church.

577
00:35:16.119 --> 00:35:20.119
Isn't that weird? The pastoral counseling approach is usually not

578
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:22.679
done by the pastor because the pastor is going to

579
00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:25.679
typically handle it from a philological perspective, which is almost

580
00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:26.760
going to deny.

581
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:32.760
The the physical and the mental or how would we say this,

582
00:35:33.079 --> 00:35:38.039
the clinical type of approach, the medical type of approach.

583
00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:48.719
Now, this will encourage prayer, community support, counseling, and sometimes

584
00:35:48.760 --> 00:35:51.039
but even this approach, they're still going to be very

585
00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:54.639
iffy about medication, still going to be very iffy about medical.

586
00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:56.960
The other ones are not even going to consider medication.

587
00:35:57.039 --> 00:36:00.000
They're almost always going to be anti medication. It's weird.

588
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:04.480
You can get medication for your high blood pressure, medication

589
00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:08.400
for cholesterol, medication for this, medication, for that, medication to

590
00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:11.239
fight this, medication for this, but when it comes to

591
00:36:11.639 --> 00:36:14.679
anything possibly emotional or mental. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

592
00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:18.159
no no. Now, I'm not saying medication is always the

593
00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:20.599
first approach. I'm not saying that. I understand some of

594
00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:23.559
the negative consequences that come from mental health, some mental

595
00:36:23.559 --> 00:36:28.320
health drugs. I understand that, But you don't just throw

596
00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:30.800
it out. You at least acknowledge that there can be

597
00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:38.159
a deeper issue than just a spiritual issue right now. Typically,

598
00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:41.280
in the pastoral counseling approach, they will embrace the idea

599
00:36:41.360 --> 00:36:44.320
that the psalms are a model of emotional honesty before God,

600
00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:46.719
which I think is a big step. Man, if you

601
00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:50.000
can just acknowledge that in scripture you can be blatantly

602
00:36:50.119 --> 00:36:53.719
honest with your emotions, with your depression, with your anxiety,

603
00:36:53.960 --> 00:36:57.440
with your worry, with your anger, with your frustration, with

604
00:36:57.480 --> 00:37:00.360
your bitterness, and that doesn't mean you're committing a sin.

605
00:37:01.880 --> 00:37:03.719
To me, it's more of a sin to hide it

606
00:37:03.760 --> 00:37:06.679
and pretend than just being able to scream it out.

607
00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:13.000
The pastoral counseling approach typically will point to Luke twenty

608
00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:16.519
two and Jesus agony in the Garden of Gethsemane right

609
00:37:18.599 --> 00:37:22.800
Elijah's despair under the tree in First Kings nineteen, Paul's

610
00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:26.679
admission of fear and trembling in First Corinthians, David's lament,

611
00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:30.400
and the Psalms. So he says, hey, these people in

612
00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:33.679
the Bible, they express pain suffering. How about job He

613
00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:39.119
expressed his I wish I was never born. But in

614
00:37:39.159 --> 00:37:41.599
many cases you have to go outside the church to

615
00:37:41.679 --> 00:37:43.960
really get this. In some cases, I'm not saying in

616
00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:51.880
every case, but in many cases. Typically this approach will

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00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:55.559
affirm mental health as a part of Christian health. It

618
00:37:55.559 --> 00:38:01.039
does not shame people for emotional struggles. It usually encourages

619
00:38:01.159 --> 00:38:05.599
long term healing, not quick fixes. Typically this is used

620
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by Christian therapists and biblically integrated counselors. Please note not churches,

621
00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:18.159
not pastors, and usually not from the pulpit. Sometimes I'm

622
00:38:18.159 --> 00:38:21.280
not gonna say always, but a lot of times the

623
00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:24.719
church goes with these more philological traditions that plays this down,

624
00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:26.679
which is kind of weird, that like, if you really

625
00:38:26.719 --> 00:38:28.280
need to get this, you got to leave the church.

626
00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:37.320
That's not the way it should be. So there's the evangelical,

627
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:41.559
the reform, the charismatic. The more we'll call it biblical

628
00:38:41.679 --> 00:38:50.239
counseling approach. How about in more contemporary philological circles, or

629
00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:54.039
what's going on maybe from a contemporary theilological perspective, What

630
00:38:54.199 --> 00:38:57.800
is happening from a contemporary perspective, Well, some will say

631
00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:02.079
that there is at least a move and a contemporary perspective.

632
00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:05.880
To be more realistic and nuanced, The message is something

633
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:09.639
like fear is human. God works through it, not just

634
00:39:09.719 --> 00:39:18.719
in spite of it. It typically emphasizes lament as worship. Hey,

635
00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:22.519
the Bible and the Psalms has lament in our worship.

636
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:27.199
We can offer lament. See typically you think when in

637
00:39:27.239 --> 00:39:31.519
worship you can only offer praise, you can only offer thanksgiving. No,

638
00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:35.639
in your worship, you can offer lament, a spiritual scream,

639
00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:39.440
a spiritual scream of pain. You can acknowledge your pain.

640
00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:43.559
You're suffering, your fear, your doubt, like in many people,

641
00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:46.719
in many churches, people would lose it if if someone

642
00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:50.440
begin to pray, Lord, I come to you today in worship,

643
00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:54.280
and I want to tell you I am angry, I

644
00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:57.400
am upset. I wish I was never born. I wish

645
00:39:57.400 --> 00:39:59.800
I could die. I don't know how my life is

646
00:39:59.840 --> 00:40:03.280
in up in this mess I feel alone. I feel abandoned.

647
00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:06.440
I feel that my needs are not being met emotionally physically,

648
00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:09.360
and I'm angry. God, you have the power to fix it,

649
00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:14.000
and you've abandoned me. Oh try that in church. You'll

650
00:40:14.039 --> 00:40:15.599
be probably someone to come and grab your arm and

651
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:18.119
tell you to shut up and sit down, because the

652
00:40:18.199 --> 00:40:23.280
church doesn't want raw, honest worship. Know, you're supposed to

653
00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:25.239
put everyone's supposed to lift up their hands and put

654
00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:27.079
a smile. And if they say God is perfect, God

655
00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:30.400
is good, everything is wonderful. My life is perfect, even

656
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:34.239
though marriages are falling apart at their sins. There's worry,

657
00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:37.000
there's anxiety, there's fear. No no no no no no

658
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:40.000
no no no no. We all show up to pretend

659
00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:47.079
because church is simply drama club. It's just a staged performance.

660
00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:55.880
There is some contemporary trends saying no lament as belongs

661
00:40:55.920 --> 00:41:00.960
in worship. There's a there's some trends in the contemporary

662
00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:07.039
Christianity that questions this triumphant, triumphant Christianity that seems to

663
00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:11.960
almost deny suffering. It encourages faithful presence and endurance and

664
00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:17.599
fear rather than escape from it. It typically encourages wrestling

665
00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:24.239
honestly with fear, doubt and trauma. It will bring in psychology, neuroscience,

666
00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:28.280
and theology, and it will recognize that healing. Guess what,

667
00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:30.719
for some, it's not going to come in this life.

668
00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:32.679
In fact, there's millions of things. We're never going to

669
00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:34.000
be held up. We're not going to be held of

670
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:35.280
our sin in this life. We're not going to be

671
00:41:35.320 --> 00:41:37.639
held of all of our physical problems. We may not

672
00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:39.039
be healed. We're not going to be held of all

673
00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:42.599
of our mental problems, emotional problems. We're not because we

674
00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:44.960
live in a fallen world. And guess what. Your life

675
00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:47.480
is filled with pain, suffering, death, And there's what it's

676
00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:50.239
all around us, and it's not fixed tal glorification. You're

677
00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:53.440
still going to sin every single day until glorification. You're

678
00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:56.320
going to have worry, fear, anxiety, doubt, and depression. And

679
00:41:56.400 --> 00:41:58.840
different people will have different levels because that's how it

680
00:41:58.920 --> 00:42:02.039
works in your life. Some people that don't have physical elements,

681
00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:04.679
others have many. Some people have a great life. Other

682
00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:09.239
people are alone, abandoned and have no one. Some people

683
00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:10.760
get all of the If you want to look at

684
00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:13.719
that hierarchy of needs, all all of their needs are met.

685
00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:17.639
They've got friends, they got family, they've got intimacy, they've

686
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got their physical needs met, sexual needs met, they've got shelter.

687
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They got it all. And other people look at that

688
00:42:24.039 --> 00:42:27.199
list of hierarchy and needs and they're like, I'm missing

689
00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:31.480
about eighty percent of those, and some people will die

690
00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:36.000
with those ever being met. And it gets really sick.

691
00:42:36.039 --> 00:42:38.639
I get really sick and tired of many Christians who

692
00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:40.960
get all of them met looking down on the other scone,

693
00:42:41.000 --> 00:42:43.360
What is your problem? Just have enough faith? God is enough.

694
00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:45.880
All you need is Jesus. He's efficient, do all things.

695
00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:48.280
We're all grumbling and complaining. Don't have any worry, don't

696
00:42:48.280 --> 00:42:51.159
have any anxiety. Get over yourself. Now, go home, live

697
00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:53.119
by yourself. And I'm going to go and have all

698
00:42:53.159 --> 00:42:55.119
the things that I have and my life is perfect.

699
00:42:55.159 --> 00:42:56.800
I don't know what your problem is. You just don't

700
00:42:56.800 --> 00:43:05.840
have enough faith. No, we live in a lot of

701
00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:08.400
world that it may never get better, and we have

702
00:43:08.519 --> 00:43:14.760
to acknowledge that. Now. I asked AI to make a

703
00:43:14.880 --> 00:43:18.199
chart of these different approaches and break it down. I'm

704
00:43:18.239 --> 00:43:20.280
not going to go through the chart. It is pretty interesting.

705
00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:22.360
It gives me the approach it gives me the view

706
00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:25.079
of fear and anxiety, the strengths and weaknesses. It does

707
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:29.599
a really good job. But that's kind of a journey

708
00:43:29.639 --> 00:43:34.199
through how the Church has typically handled it. So I

709
00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:37.480
started thinking about, Okay, that's I think that's fair. I

710
00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:42.519
think I've tried to cover every basic tradition, right. Obviously,

711
00:43:42.559 --> 00:43:46.800
that's not like I'm not being very clear. I'm not

712
00:43:46.840 --> 00:43:50.639
seeing that covers every view within Christianity. Obviously I tried

713
00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:53.719
to look everything from the contemporary to the traditional reform,

714
00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:57.320
to the charismatic, to the evangelical, to the biblical counseling.

715
00:43:57.360 --> 00:43:59.679
I tried to cover every typical view. And you're going

716
00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:02.199
to get something in there. So this is a good

717
00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:05.679
moment on your time and you're in this broadcast for

718
00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:07.280
you to write on that same paper where I told

719
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:09.679
you to write down your fears. How have you basically

720
00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:13.119
been told to handle fear, worry, anxiety, depression, discouragement, all

721
00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:15.480
of these things? How have you been told to handle

722
00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:18.760
it as a Christian? What suggestions have you been given?

723
00:44:18.960 --> 00:44:21.760
What help have you been given? Or is it basically

724
00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:24.599
always read your Bible more, pray more, go to church more,

725
00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:27.000
do more, go to church? Don't miss a small group,

726
00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:29.679
seeing more, do this, do this. It's always a list

727
00:44:29.719 --> 00:44:32.039
of here's the fifteen things you need to do, and

728
00:44:32.079 --> 00:44:44.679
then everything will be perfect in your life. Now what

729
00:44:44.840 --> 00:44:50.280
I find interesting? In fact, I asked artificial intelligence about this.

730
00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:52.440
I asked artificial intelligence. This is what I said to

731
00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:57.760
artificial intelligence. Isn't interesting that while Christianity at large says

732
00:44:57.960 --> 00:45:01.519
don't fear, fear is wrong, don't worry, don't have any

733
00:45:01.559 --> 00:45:05.480
anxiety because it all shows a lack of faith. It

734
00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:08.159
shows immature faith. It shows that you're not trusting God.

735
00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:13.039
It's sinful. They will, at the exact same time constantly

736
00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:16.440
preach about all the things we're supposed to ultimately be

737
00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:25.960
afraid of. Satanists, LGBTQ, music, books, movies, culture, wokeness, liberals, Muslims,

738
00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:31.159
on one hand, don't have any fear. And the other thing,

739
00:45:31.320 --> 00:45:33.079
you need to be worried about this. You need to

740
00:45:33.079 --> 00:45:35.079
be worried about this. Don't let your kids do this,

741
00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:38.480
don't don't worry, worry, worry, worry, worry. I find it

742
00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:45.000
somewhat contradicting in my mind. So I asked Ai, Am

743
00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:49.239
I onto something here? In Ai says this contradiction is

744
00:45:49.239 --> 00:45:57.079
not only interesting, it's deeply revealing. This is what AI says,

745
00:45:57.199 --> 00:46:02.400
you're naming a real and widespread thingological and cultural inconsistency

746
00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:07.239
within much of modern day Christianity, especially in the United States,

747
00:46:09.199 --> 00:46:13.920
within the evangelical world, and it's offshoots. So I says that, hey,

748
00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:16.559
you're pointing out something that's very real and it's a

749
00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:21.239
real inconsistency, and he and AI not he. AI focuses

750
00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:25.840
on the United States evangelical world, and it's offshoots, so

751
00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:28.159
it doesn't talk about what's going on outside of the

752
00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:30.800
United States, but it focuses here on the United States,

753
00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:32.800
which I found it found it interesting that that's where

754
00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:37.880
AI put its focus. So AI said, let's look at

755
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:42.760
this contradiction at a glance. On one hand, the church

756
00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:49.519
says things like this, do not fear. Fear is a

757
00:46:49.599 --> 00:46:55.480
lack of trust in God. Fear shows weak faith. God

758
00:46:55.559 --> 00:46:58.639
has not given us a spirit of fear. Perfect love

759
00:46:58.880 --> 00:47:04.000
cast out fear. But on the other hand, the church

760
00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:10.280
often uses fear. Be afraid of Satanist infiltrating schools, be

761
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:15.280
afraid of Satanic symbols and Disney movies. Be afraid of

762
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:21.199
the LGBTQ agenda, corrupting your children. Be afraid of books, movies, music,

763
00:47:21.400 --> 00:47:28.760
they're gateways for demons. Be afraid of culture, wokeness, vaccines, ai, globalism,

764
00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:36.360
drag queen story time, be afraid of everything. In those cases,

765
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:41.280
fear isn't really discouraged, it's weaponized. In fact, fear becomes

766
00:47:41.320 --> 00:47:45.440
the fuel of outrage, which is then disguised as just

767
00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:50.559
righteous concern. We're not really afraid, we just have righteous concern.

768
00:47:50.840 --> 00:47:54.079
Now once again, go to sixteen ninety two Salem. We've

769
00:47:54.119 --> 00:47:58.199
been talking about this absolute full blown panic and insanity

770
00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:01.559
that resulted in twenty people dying. Nineteen were hung, one

771
00:48:01.719 --> 00:48:08.800
was crushed under rocks. That's straight up fear, panic, worry, anxiety, insanity.

772
00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:16.760
Jump to the nineteen eighties. Widespread satanic panic was everywhere.

773
00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:22.880
Christians were scared, fearful, worried. Oh, cal Oh, I gotta

774
00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:25.079
get into my kids room, find that album, burn it,

775
00:48:25.199 --> 00:48:27.920
or demons are gonna take over them. Oh, we gotta

776
00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:30.360
get rid of Harry Potter. Burn Harry Potter books because

777
00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:32.639
Harry Potter's gonna have all of our kids flying around

778
00:48:32.679 --> 00:48:34.639
on broomsticks. This is the end of the world, The

779
00:48:34.719 --> 00:48:37.760
end is here. Oh, the Illuminati is everywhere. It's everywhere,

780
00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:41.760
the Illuminati, reptilians. This, Oh, there's a secret criball of

781
00:48:41.800 --> 00:48:43.679
this group, in this group and this. Oh, we gotta

782
00:48:43.679 --> 00:48:45.400
be aware. Oh no, no, don't look at this. There's

783
00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:48.159
symbolic messages in movies. Wait, they're playing. If I listen

784
00:48:48.239 --> 00:48:54.079
to that album backwards, I'll hear hidden messages. But no, no, no,

785
00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:57.840
we're not really afraid. It's just righteous concern. It's full

786
00:48:57.880 --> 00:49:05.079
blown panic. Happens all the time within Christianity. Well, here's

787
00:49:05.079 --> 00:49:11.360
the theological problem that exists in this clear contradiction within Christianity.

788
00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:16.000
They will go something like this, They will go something

789
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:18.800
like this. Here's kind of the theological problem. All right,

790
00:49:18.840 --> 00:49:27.400
So here's the theological problem. Selective application of scripture. Fear

791
00:49:27.639 --> 00:49:37.599
is sinful unless it serves Christianity, Christianity's agenda. This is

792
00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:42.320
a selective use of scripture, and it creates confusion and manipulation.

793
00:49:43.880 --> 00:49:47.639
The fear that should be cast out is embraced when

794
00:49:47.679 --> 00:49:55.320
it's aimed at others. It sometimes is a misuse of

795
00:49:55.360 --> 00:49:58.079
the fear of the Lord. The Bible commands the fear

796
00:49:58.119 --> 00:50:01.920
of the Lord as reverent, awe and humility, but many

797
00:50:02.039 --> 00:50:05.760
churches replace that fear with cultural, political, or social fear,

798
00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:10.320
often rooted in control or moral panic. So instead of

799
00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:14.719
fearing God, Christians are taught to fear their neighbor, fear

800
00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:19.920
the world, fear the liberal fear, this fear that no say,

801
00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:22.639
I'm not afraid of it. Oh, it's full blown fear.

802
00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:30.360
And this has a psychological social dynamic because fear. Oh, oh,

803
00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:33.760
you got to listen to this, And I mean, I

804
00:50:33.800 --> 00:50:35.719
wish I could take you back to the nineteen nineties

805
00:50:35.840 --> 00:50:37.800
and you could hear the Prophecy Club that aired on

806
00:50:38.039 --> 00:50:41.800
Christian radio in Nebraska and around the country. The Prophecy Club.

807
00:50:41.800 --> 00:50:43.679
I think it's still out there somewhere on the internet.

808
00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:47.000
It's all insanity. It sounds like Alex Jones on crack is.

809
00:50:47.199 --> 00:50:53.360
Just throw in a lot more Bible verses. Because fear

810
00:50:54.639 --> 00:51:01.840
is a powerful motivator. See fear sells books, Fear drives donations,

811
00:51:02.440 --> 00:51:06.400
bear builds political alliances. Fear keeps people coming back to

812
00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:16.920
the church for answers. That last one, fear keeps people

813
00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:20.079
coming back to the church for answers made me think

814
00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:23.320
of this book right here, and now you know what

815
00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:27.960
this is. Come on, Do you know what that is?

816
00:51:30.960 --> 00:51:40.280
That's the Satanic Bible, Oh fear you open it up

817
00:51:40.639 --> 00:51:52.039
for Diane. Table of contents, introduction kind of the story

818
00:51:52.039 --> 00:51:54.519
of Anton Leavey, how he ends up becoming a Satanist,

819
00:51:55.480 --> 00:52:01.119
goes on for number of pages. The Satanic Bible, the preface,

820
00:52:01.679 --> 00:52:12.519
the prologue. Here they are the nine Satanic statements? Do

821
00:52:12.559 --> 00:52:16.119
you know what number nine is? Come on so they

822
00:52:16.159 --> 00:52:18.199
may you know what number nine is? Are you good

823
00:52:18.239 --> 00:52:20.639
Satanist out there? Do you know what number nine is?

824
00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:22.840
These are the nine Satanic statements? If you want to

825
00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:25.360
be a Satanist, these are This is like their confession

826
00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:31.599
of faith, This is like their creed satan Satanic statements,

827
00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:36.239
Number nine. Satan has been the best friend the church

828
00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:41.320
has ever had, as it has kept it in business

829
00:52:41.400 --> 00:52:46.840
all these years. You could say fear has been the

830
00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:49.559
best friend the church has ever had because it keeps

831
00:52:49.599 --> 00:52:55.760
it in business. Point out the danger. Fearful of this,

832
00:52:56.039 --> 00:52:59.039
fearful of that, fearful of this. But you gotta keep

833
00:52:59.079 --> 00:53:02.960
coming here the answers to get the protection. You need us.

834
00:53:03.079 --> 00:53:06.480
You need our books, you need our conferences, you need this,

835
00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:09.719
you need that, you need my DVD set, you need

836
00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:12.159
this you need to subscribe to this. You need this,

837
00:53:12.280 --> 00:53:16.800
you need this. The Church has been using fear to

838
00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:20.159
manipulate people forever. On one hand, it will condemn fear.

839
00:53:20.320 --> 00:53:23.480
On the other hand, it uses it all day. Well,

840
00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:31.840
someone sent me an email. Oh man, I won't even

841
00:53:31.840 --> 00:53:35.800
go into it, but it's a famous Christian speaker telling

842
00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:39.719
us about the dangers and the possible prophetic messages found

843
00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:42.440
in the movie Snow White, or at least the prophetic

844
00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:46.079
message supposedly found in the movie Snow White. It's ridiculous.

845
00:53:46.159 --> 00:53:48.239
I gave it to Ai, and AI is like, basically,

846
00:53:48.599 --> 00:53:50.840
you know what I'm done. I give up on humanity.

847
00:53:50.880 --> 00:53:53.360
You people. I don't get it right. It's bad, But

848
00:53:53.440 --> 00:53:56.000
I mean there's always like ooh this and this is

849
00:53:56.039 --> 00:53:58.239
going to happen, and this is going to happen, and

850
00:53:58.519 --> 00:54:00.440
be fearful of this, and this is happened, and the

851
00:54:00.480 --> 00:54:03.119
coming economic collapse and this is going to happen, and

852
00:54:03.199 --> 00:54:06.079
Satanists they're taking over in this and they're gonna come again.

853
00:54:06.159 --> 00:54:08.280
I can go back through so many things I've witnessed

854
00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:10.840
in my Christian life. Forget the Satanic panic which I've

855
00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:13.039
been talking about. I can go back to when Obama

856
00:54:13.159 --> 00:54:16.880
was coming coming into office. We were all gonna become Muslims.

857
00:54:17.079 --> 00:54:19.159
Surreal law was going to be issued. They were going

858
00:54:19.239 --> 00:54:22.800
to burn down churches, shut down churches, take away our bibles.

859
00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:24.719
We were all gonna be locked up in FEMA camps.

860
00:54:24.760 --> 00:54:27.800
We're going to be injected with some vaccine that has

861
00:54:27.840 --> 00:54:29.920
a chip in it that's basically the mark of the beast.

862
00:54:30.159 --> 00:54:32.440
On and on and on and on and on and

863
00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:34.960
on and on and on, and all those people sold

864
00:54:34.960 --> 00:54:37.239
books and did all of this stuff. I remember when

865
00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:40.360
when Pope Benedict was going in he passed away and

866
00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:42.639
we were going to wat to Pope Francis. Oh, then

867
00:54:42.639 --> 00:54:46.400
there was just supposedly the prophecy of the last Pope,

868
00:54:46.519 --> 00:54:47.960
and then all of a sudden this was gonna He

869
00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:49.880
was gonna be the anti Christ and we were all

870
00:54:49.880 --> 00:54:52.039
gonna be. And I remember all the Christians telling me

871
00:54:52.079 --> 00:54:54.480
about it, and I'm like, this is ridiculous. Oh no, no,

872
00:54:54.639 --> 00:54:56.960
you just don't see it. You should be worried about this,

873
00:54:57.000 --> 00:54:58.679
and you should be worried about that. And there's this

874
00:54:58.760 --> 00:55:00.760
conspiracy and they're coming to get you here and they're

875
00:55:00.760 --> 00:55:02.360
coming to get you there, and I don't know what

876
00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:04.400
your problem is you need to warn people, and then

877
00:55:04.960 --> 00:55:07.920
every single time it all goes away, and where are

878
00:55:07.920 --> 00:55:11.599
those people? Do they come back apologize saying I was ridiculous,

879
00:55:11.679 --> 00:55:14.320
over the top and fearful. No no, no, no, They've

880
00:55:14.320 --> 00:55:15.920
moved on to the next thing. We're supposed to be

881
00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:19.679
fearful love. At the same time, the church says, don't fear,

882
00:55:19.960 --> 00:55:22.679
don't worry, don't have anxiety. Well, which is it? Am

883
00:55:22.719 --> 00:55:25.039
I supposed to be scared of everything because Satan is

884
00:55:25.039 --> 00:55:28.239
behind every rock, The Illuminati and Reptilians are five seconds

885
00:55:28.239 --> 00:55:31.239
away from taking over my brain? Which is it? Christians?

886
00:55:31.239 --> 00:55:34.239
Can you make up your mind? Oh? Fear works for

887
00:55:34.320 --> 00:55:38.360
you when it helps you get power, position and make

888
00:55:38.400 --> 00:55:41.840
a lot of money and keeps your doors open. Fear

889
00:55:41.920 --> 00:55:44.639
is not good when you want to tell everyone be good,

890
00:55:44.760 --> 00:55:47.559
nice little boys and girls and don't fear and just

891
00:55:47.800 --> 00:55:50.800
don't worry. But I mean you need to worry about this.

892
00:55:51.199 --> 00:55:54.039
We don't care about consistency. We care about keeping the

893
00:55:54.079 --> 00:56:00.920
doors open and the money coming in. You see, if

894
00:56:00.920 --> 00:56:03.840
you can convince someone that the world is increasingly dangerous

895
00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:08.800
and you alone have the solution, you gain tremendous power.

896
00:56:10.639 --> 00:56:14.360
This is why some Christian leaders or media constantly portray

897
00:56:14.440 --> 00:56:18.119
believers as under siege, even if the facts don't support it.

898
00:56:18.159 --> 00:56:22.920
We're under see Christmas is under siege. This is under siege.

899
00:56:23.000 --> 00:56:26.760
We're under attack. We're being persecuted. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no,

900
00:56:26.840 --> 00:56:29.599
we have a I'm gonna throw the microphone across the room.

901
00:56:29.639 --> 00:56:31.440
Oh no, no no. We put up a Nativity scene.

902
00:56:31.480 --> 00:56:33.440
And you know what the Church of Satan did the

903
00:56:33.480 --> 00:56:36.639
Satanic Temple. They put up a display of a demon.

904
00:56:36.840 --> 00:56:40.599
Oh no, Christianity is under attack. I don't know. Are

905
00:56:40.599 --> 00:56:43.000
we under attack or do you need to be afraid

906
00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:44.719
of it? I thought we're not supposed to be afraid.

907
00:56:44.760 --> 00:56:46.599
I'm not. We're supposed to be worried. Can you make

908
00:56:46.679 --> 00:56:55.360
up your mind. Here's what's kind of the weird thing.

909
00:56:56.199 --> 00:56:59.679
Fear is then used to fight fear. You're told don't

910
00:56:59.679 --> 00:57:04.480
fear death, trust God. But you're also told fear drag queens,

911
00:57:05.280 --> 00:57:11.119
fear yoga, fear Marvel movies, fear dungeons and dragons, fear targets,

912
00:57:11.159 --> 00:57:21.599
pride section, fear your public library, fear MTV, fear TikTok,

913
00:57:22.760 --> 00:57:27.079
fear Taylor Swift, fear Harry Potter. I mean what are

914
00:57:27.079 --> 00:57:30.119
we not supposed to be afraid of? But don't fear death?

915
00:57:30.199 --> 00:57:36.519
Trust God? This cultivates a perpetual anxiety, not peace. Christians

916
00:57:36.519 --> 00:57:39.519
are conditioned to see the world as hostile and demonic.

917
00:57:40.119 --> 00:57:43.679
They view themselves as constantly under spiritual attack, and they

918
00:57:43.679 --> 00:57:47.760
fear the erosion of their cultural power and this world.

919
00:57:47.800 --> 00:57:50.519
Fear becomes righteousness as long as it's aimed at the

920
00:57:50.599 --> 00:57:54.039
right enemy. Oh, you can't fear, but you can fear that,

921
00:57:54.320 --> 00:57:56.440
because we got to have an enemy, because we have

922
00:57:56.519 --> 00:57:59.760
an enemy that keeps us in business, right, that gives

923
00:57:59.800 --> 00:58:05.079
us in business. Anton LeVay understood the way the church

924
00:58:05.119 --> 00:58:07.440
stays in businesses It needs satan, it needs fear, it

925
00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:15.440
needs an enemy. What does this result in? It results

926
00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:19.320
in a double minded discipleship. Christians live with kind of

927
00:58:19.320 --> 00:58:23.800
a spiritual whiplash. Told to be fearless, but then constantly

928
00:58:23.840 --> 00:58:28.000
fed fear. Told to trust God but trained to panic.

929
00:58:28.840 --> 00:58:31.519
Told to love their enemies, but warned that their enemies

930
00:58:31.559 --> 00:58:36.440
are demon possessed threats to their children. This produces anxiety

931
00:58:36.840 --> 00:58:41.400
masked as discernment, bitterness masked as boldness, and division massed

932
00:58:41.440 --> 00:58:48.920
as holiness. Now a healthy Christian theology of fear should

933
00:58:49.000 --> 00:58:53.679
condemn manipulative fear used to control or politicize. It should

934
00:58:53.719 --> 00:58:58.119
distinguish between reverent fear of God and cultural panic. It

935
00:58:58.159 --> 00:59:02.440
should call out hypocrisy and churches preach peace for promote panic.

936
00:59:03.519 --> 00:59:07.079
It should recenter on Christ, who constantly told people fear,

937
00:59:07.199 --> 00:59:11.840
not even when they were surrounded by real threats. It

938
00:59:11.840 --> 00:59:15.000
should affirm that fear is human, but must be interpreted

939
00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:20.079
through the Cross, not Fox news, not TikTok, not charismatic influencers,

940
00:59:20.360 --> 00:59:24.519
not YouTube, not the next crazy, ridiculous thing going on

941
00:59:24.639 --> 00:59:26.599
in the Christian world. That I'm all supposed to be

942
00:59:26.599 --> 00:59:31.039
worried and we're all going to die. So if Christianity

943
00:59:31.119 --> 00:59:33.920
truly took what it typically says about fear and applied

944
00:59:33.960 --> 00:59:37.360
it to all of those things, it would actually teach

945
00:59:37.400 --> 00:59:43.840
people to respond in a completely different way. If Christianity

946
00:59:43.920 --> 00:59:47.599
consistently and faithfully applied its own teaching about fear across

947
00:59:47.639 --> 00:59:51.079
all areas of life, not just personal struggles, but cultural

948
00:59:51.119 --> 00:59:53.920
issues too, it would look radically different from what we

949
00:59:53.960 --> 00:59:58.800
see today. See a Christianity would if Christianity actually taught

950
00:59:58.800 --> 01:00:03.320
people to respond to fear both theologically and practically. Number one,

951
01:00:03.440 --> 01:00:08.239
it would begin with this foundational message, fear not because

952
01:00:08.280 --> 01:00:11.760
God reigns. The Lord is my Light and my salvation.

953
01:00:12.159 --> 01:00:16.320
Whom shall I fear? Psalm twenty seven to one. Christians

954
01:00:16.360 --> 01:00:18.639
would be grounded not in panic over the state of

955
01:00:18.679 --> 01:00:21.880
the world, but in the sovereignty, goodness, and ultimate justice

956
01:00:21.880 --> 01:00:25.559
of God. That means, no matter what happens culturally or politically,

957
01:00:25.960 --> 01:00:28.480
God is not surprised. God is still on the throne,

958
01:00:28.679 --> 01:00:31.760
and the mission of the Church hasn't changed. This removes

959
01:00:31.800 --> 01:00:35.320
the need for fear driven reactions and replaces them with

960
01:00:35.400 --> 01:00:42.320
stability and perspective. It would encourage critical thinking, not moral panic.

961
01:00:42.719 --> 01:00:45.599
Be wise as a serpent and harmless as a dove.

962
01:00:45.719 --> 01:00:49.519
Matthew ten sixteen says, if fear is not from God,

963
01:00:49.760 --> 01:00:52.000
then you don't need to panic about a movie because

964
01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:54.719
it includes magic. You don't need a boycott a company

965
01:00:54.800 --> 01:00:57.880
out of paranoia or outrage. You don't need to label

966
01:00:57.920 --> 01:01:03.800
your neighbor as an agent of Satan simply because they're different. Instead, Christians,

967
01:01:03.800 --> 01:01:08.280
we'd be taught to engage culture thoughtfully, not fearfully, discern

968
01:01:08.519 --> 01:01:15.599
without demonizing, challenge ideas, without attacking people. It would replace

969
01:01:15.960 --> 01:01:19.599
enemies with evangelism, Love your enemy, Bless those who curse

970
01:01:19.639 --> 01:01:22.199
you Matthew five point forty four. If fear leads to

971
01:01:22.199 --> 01:01:26.119
seeing others as a threat, love does the opposite. A

972
01:01:26.239 --> 01:01:31.119
Christianity consistent with its fear teachings, would say, don't fear

973
01:01:31.280 --> 01:01:35.320
LGBTQ people see them as image bearers, created in the

974
01:01:35.320 --> 01:01:40.119
image of God, sinners just like you and me. You

975
01:01:40.159 --> 01:01:43.960
don't fear wokeness. You understand the concerns and speak truth

976
01:01:44.039 --> 01:01:47.639
with grace. You don't fear secularism you live a compelling

977
01:01:47.679 --> 01:01:54.079
alternative Christianity would engage without rage and resist the temptation

978
01:01:54.159 --> 01:02:01.440
to turn cultural differences into spiritual warfare, validate human emotion

979
01:02:01.840 --> 01:02:05.679
while calling for trust. Fear, anxiety, and panic attacks wouldn't

980
01:02:05.679 --> 01:02:08.800
be treated as sin or failure. Instead, Christians would hear,

981
01:02:09.559 --> 01:02:13.239
You're not condemned for being afraid. God meets you in it.

982
01:02:14.599 --> 01:02:17.320
There would be taught to pray their fears honestly, like

983
01:02:17.400 --> 01:02:21.000
David does in the Psalms, to seek help both spiritually

984
01:02:21.159 --> 01:02:24.960
and clinically, to walk in faith with fear, not pretending

985
01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:31.519
it doesn't exist. It would cultivate peace, not perpetual alarm.

986
01:02:32.039 --> 01:02:34.639
Let the peace of Christ rule your hearts. Colossians three

987
01:02:34.639 --> 01:02:38.400
point fifteen. Many Christians live in a perpetual alert mode,

988
01:02:38.519 --> 01:02:42.280
always ready for the next outrage, scandal, or enemy. But

989
01:02:42.320 --> 01:02:45.320
if the church truly applied its doctrine of fearlessness, it

990
01:02:45.360 --> 01:02:48.920
would stop feeding panic through fear based media and sermons.

991
01:02:49.119 --> 01:02:52.239
It would teach rest and trust, not urgency and alarm.

992
01:02:52.400 --> 01:02:55.480
It would remind believers that fear driven discipleship is not

993
01:02:55.639 --> 01:03:01.280
discipleship at all. It would say, fear dry control, love

994
01:03:01.559 --> 01:03:06.039
actually frees people. Much of what passes for concern in

995
01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:10.400
modern day Christianity is really fear driven control, controlling schools,

996
01:03:10.519 --> 01:03:15.719
controlling what others say, controlling moral behavior though fear though

997
01:03:15.880 --> 01:03:19.960
fear of hell. Let me state this again, controlling moral

998
01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:25.639
behavior through the fear of hell or decline, but perfect

999
01:03:25.679 --> 01:03:28.719
love cast out fear. A church that believes that would

1000
01:03:28.719 --> 01:03:32.039
teach holiness out of love, not terror, trusts the Spirit

1001
01:03:32.079 --> 01:03:35.039
to work rather than trying to force cultural change through fear.

1002
01:03:35.280 --> 01:03:39.440
Proclaim the Gospel that saves, not a morality that threatens.

1003
01:03:44.199 --> 01:03:49.519
Much of modern day Christianity almost tries to sound like Stoicism,

1004
01:03:50.440 --> 01:03:54.159
with things like basically, don't feel be strong, push down

1005
01:03:54.159 --> 01:04:00.800
your fear, fake your trust, Christianity, he says, feel it,

1006
01:04:00.880 --> 01:04:03.320
admit it, let it drive you to the cross. Christ

1007
01:04:03.400 --> 01:04:06.360
obeyed where you couldn't, and he loves you even in

1008
01:04:06.400 --> 01:04:11.000
your trembling. Now that brings us to the sixty four

1009
01:04:11.039 --> 01:04:12.800
minute mark. I had to do that last part quick,

1010
01:04:15.719 --> 01:04:18.119
and I fear that I didn't get it all right,

1011
01:04:18.599 --> 01:04:21.400
and I fear I went too fast. But there's a

1012
01:04:21.440 --> 01:04:25.280
lot there because the Church is so inconsistent. On one hand,

1013
01:04:25.320 --> 01:04:28.760
it's don't fear, don't fear, do this, we should not fear.

1014
01:04:28.800 --> 01:04:30.239
On the end of the hand, we're supposed to fear

1015
01:04:30.280 --> 01:04:33.519
literally everything, because we're constantly under attacking. We're five seconds

1016
01:04:33.519 --> 01:04:36.079
of bay driven and driven down to the pit of hell.

1017
01:04:41.440 --> 01:04:46.400
But the real answer is approaching fear from our proper

1018
01:04:46.480 --> 01:04:51.440
law gospel distinction. Now I hinted at that next time

1019
01:04:51.519 --> 01:05:01.280
in part two, we will look at fear not as

1020
01:05:01.440 --> 01:05:08.519
law and gospel. That's what we'll do next time. We've

1021
01:05:08.559 --> 01:05:11.039
covered all. We've taken a while, we took it a

1022
01:05:11.159 --> 01:05:14.400
long journey, right, We've looked at how Christianity handles it.

1023
01:05:14.599 --> 01:05:17.320
We look at how Christianity teaches us not to fear,

1024
01:05:17.360 --> 01:05:20.960
but then teaches us to fear. We've talked about this inconsistency.

1025
01:05:21.280 --> 01:05:23.440
We talked about the problems, We talked about what it

1026
01:05:23.480 --> 01:05:26.840
would really look like if Christians actually were consistent with

1027
01:05:26.880 --> 01:05:29.679
their teaching of do not fear, we would approach the

1028
01:05:29.719 --> 01:05:32.519
culture radically different. But for two thousand years, the church

1029
01:05:32.599 --> 01:05:37.440
is constantly afraid, constantly a moral panic. I know I'm

1030
01:05:37.440 --> 01:05:41.039
gonna get credit. We're not afraid. We're just concerned. We're

1031
01:05:41.079 --> 01:05:44.880
not afraid. We're just not blind to the problems. Yeah,

1032
01:05:44.920 --> 01:05:48.000
the problem that you're screaming about today will be forgotten

1033
01:05:48.079 --> 01:05:50.199
fifteen minutes from now, and you moved on to the

1034
01:05:50.239 --> 01:05:52.880
next thing that's five seconds away from destroying us. It's

1035
01:05:52.920 --> 01:05:55.599
always fear, and sooner or later you always see who's

1036
01:05:55.599 --> 01:05:59.559
getting the money by promoting the fear. Same thing. This

1037
01:05:59.719 --> 01:06:03.519
goes on. This is the whole political way it works. Politics.

1038
01:06:03.559 --> 01:06:05.320
You got to give something everyone to be afraid of.

1039
01:06:05.440 --> 01:06:07.760
You got to point at an enemy and then be afraid.

1040
01:06:07.920 --> 01:06:10.280
This enemy's going to deshore you. Vote for me, Vote

1041
01:06:10.280 --> 01:06:12.800
for me, vote for me, give me power, give me money,

1042
01:06:12.840 --> 01:06:14.840
give me power, get me money, and then I'll take

1043
01:06:14.840 --> 01:06:17.000
care of that fear, and I'll keep finding you new

1044
01:06:17.039 --> 01:06:19.199
things to be afraid of and new things to worried about,

1045
01:06:19.280 --> 01:06:21.360
so that you'll keep voting for me, so I'll keep

1046
01:06:21.360 --> 01:06:23.679
getting power, and I'll keep getting money, and you'll just

1047
01:06:23.760 --> 01:06:28.039
keep getting taken and played. And Christians should be the

1048
01:06:28.079 --> 01:06:30.039
one like I don't need to be afraid. I'm not

1049
01:06:30.079 --> 01:06:34.559
supposed to be afraid. If we're going with the typical

1050
01:06:34.679 --> 01:06:38.360
Christian teaching, I think ultimately we need a long gospel approach.

1051
01:06:43.159 --> 01:06:48.360
All right, there we go. I think that went pretty good.

1052
01:06:49.920 --> 01:06:53.199
I fear that about the forty eight to forty nine

1053
01:06:53.199 --> 01:06:57.679
minute mark, my throat made some weird sound and I'm

1054
01:06:57.679 --> 01:07:01.920
fearful of it because I feel like horrible, feel like

1055
01:07:01.960 --> 01:07:06.760
it's embarrassing. So I'm going to go find it. Almost instantaneously,

1056
01:07:07.039 --> 01:07:10.239
I'm going to upload it to Audacity. I'm going to

1057
01:07:10.320 --> 01:07:12.400
find it. I'm going to cut it out, and then

1058
01:07:12.400 --> 01:07:15.199
I'm going to re upload this because I'm fearful of

1059
01:07:15.280 --> 01:07:18.960
being humiliated. I'm fearful of sounding stupid. I'm fearful of

1060
01:07:19.000 --> 01:07:22.360
sounding like a human being, where sometimes your throat when

1061
01:07:22.400 --> 01:07:26.840
you're swallowing, can make weird sounds. But I don't want

1062
01:07:26.880 --> 01:07:29.480
those weird sounds because I want to sound perfect. Because

1063
01:07:29.519 --> 01:07:33.599
I'm fear. Fearful of sounding less than perfect because of

1064
01:07:33.639 --> 01:07:42.880
my own ego, my own pride. I always wanted to

1065
01:07:42.960 --> 01:07:47.880
sound smarter than I am. There's my fear. What do

1066
01:07:47.920 --> 01:07:55.960
you fear? What's the answer. I think along on gospel's

1067
01:07:55.960 --> 01:07:58.440
the answer, and we'll talk about it next time. God

1068
01:07:58.480 --> 01:08:00.320
bless h