Aug. 19, 2024

Fake News In Church Pt 2

Fake News In Church Pt 2

We finish a review of a sermon about fake news in the church

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We finish a review of a sermon about fake news in the church

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Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is

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the Theology Central podcast making Theology Central. Good morning everyone.

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It is Monday, August the nineteenth, twenty twenty four. It

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is currently nine forty five am Central Time, and I

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am coming to you live from the Theology Central studio

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located right here in Abilene, Texas. And once again I

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find myself asking why why did I even do this? Why?

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I always find myself in these situations where I question

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what I started, and I know, I know that that's

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kind of repetitive, and you're like, you say that all

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the time. I know, but don't you find it somewhat humorous? Sometimes?

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The way these sermon reviews go right In my mind,

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the sermon review is always going to be, Oh, it's

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going to be awesome. They're going to mention this, and

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we're going to be able to look at the TI

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and I'm gonna like this, and then I'm gonna be

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able to make this point and oh, it's going to

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be this really positive thing. And time and time and

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time and time again, I end up asking myself, you know,

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midway through the sermon review, why why am I doing

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a sermon review? Why do I do these sermon reviews,

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because it always ends up more frustrating than sometimes it

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does being beneficial, at least from my perspective. Now, I guess,

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I guess in one sense. I don't know if the

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audience perceives it this way, but I hope the audience

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at least sees this. No matter how frustrating the sermon

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review is, at least you are being given the opportunity

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to hear two perspectives. In one episode. You're hearing the

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perspective of the sermon I'm reviewing, and you're hearing my perspective.

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So you're getting two perspectives, maybe two different approaches to

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the text, two different interpretations, two different you know, systems

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of the So I do hope you find that to

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be beneficial. You may find it entertaining, because I always

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start off so positive. Oh, this should be interesting, this

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should be good. Oh Okay, I don't know where this

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is going to go, because I mean, I mean, it

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is fun at least a little bit for me, because

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I don't even know where it's going, right, Because you know,

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when I review a sermon, it's you know, I'm reviewing

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it in real time. I don't listen to it in advance,

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so I guess it is fun. Nobody really knows where

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it's going, but you probably start laughing because you realize, oh,

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we're fifteen ten minutes in, fifteen minutes in, and already

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it's taking a turn. So I don't know, maybe you

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find it fun. I try to be positive sometimes, but

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sometimes I just throw out my hands. I'm like, what

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in the world, and this one that we're currently reviewing,

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I am, I guess this one frustrates me so much

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because I don't really understand exactly what the point is,

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all right, So so this, this is what happened yesterday

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at Victory Baptist Church. We had no water. Right We

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don't know if there's some water issue going on in

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the Ovello, Texas area, but we were we had no water,

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so we had we had to we there were a

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few people there for Sunday school, so we went ahead

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and had Sunday school. But then we had to call

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everyone else, contact everyone else, sent out a notification, Hey,

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don't come to church because there's no water. So then

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we canceled what would have been the worship hour. We

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had the Sunday school hour, and we canceled the worship power.

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So that means I only had one hour of teaching

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to upload, all right. So when I came home, I

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was like, well, I'm gonna have to do something. I

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need to turn on the microphone and do something. And

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so I was just debating with myself what to do,

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and then all of a sudden, I get a notification

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on one of my podcast apps and the notification said

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fake news from the church. Fake news from the church. Now,

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at first I thought, oh, this is like some news

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podcasts and they've done some investigative report about how churches

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spread fake news. I'm like, okay, I'm always yelling and

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screaming about that. Okay, let me look. And I'm like,

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wait a minute. This is not from like a news podcast.

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This is from a church. I'm like, oh, this is interesting.

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The name of the church is FBC Independence, FBC Independence

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or it's known as the FBC Independence Podcast. It comes

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from FBC. I'm assuming first Baptist church in Independence, Missouri.

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I'm like, okay, this looks interesting. Fake news in the church,

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So what are they going to do? So my initial thought, well,

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maybe this is a sermon where the pastor has had it,

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he's tired of Christians. And tired of ministries and tired

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of churches spreading quote unquote fake news from the pulpit,

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that they're spreading fraudilent information, misinformation, disinformation, half truth, misrepresenting things,

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and he tired of it and he's going to let

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everyone out. I'm like, Okay, that's that could be interesting,

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and that would be something I would definitely agree with,

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because I get tired of all the misinformation and fraudulent

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information that churches put forth. Okay, all right, so maybe

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I'm going to be in totally a total agreement. Then

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I thought, well, maybe what he's going to do. Maybe

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he's going to say fake news from the church, and

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he's going to look at how churches teach fake things

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or fraudulent things while claiming them to be true. I'm like, okay.

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Or maybe there was also a little concern because, as

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I stated in part one of this review, I loathe

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the term fake news. I hate it right because what

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fake news has become is if you don't like the information,

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or if you disagree with the information, or if the

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information goes against your political ideology, or if you just

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whatever the case is, you don't like it, you just

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label it fake news. It's become weaponized, and basically now

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it allows anyone. Right. He's like, someone will make some comment,

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maybe about Donald Trump, and you say, well, actually it

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was reported that's not true, and that's not true. Fake news,

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fake news, No, what Donald Trump said was fake No, no, no,

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if you have a report that says what he said

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was wrong, that's fake news. So now it's weaponized, so

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nobody can challenge your ideology, nobody can change challenge your

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perspective because what you believe to be true is true.

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Any information that contradicts what you think is true is

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now fake news. That's why I hate the term so much.

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We cannot function as a society where you can just

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think whatever you want to think, and any information that

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contradicts it you just immediately label it fake news. I

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can't stand that. So then I thought, well, maybe, you know,

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I'm worried, maybe he's going to he's going to do

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the whole thing that a lot of Christians say, well,

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you know what they say out there in the media,

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it's all fake news. And in a roundabout way, he

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didn't disappoint He kind of went right there. So that

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was so I was kind of like, so, what is

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this sermon because he talked about fake news yellow journalism,

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and I'm like, he kind of made those synonymous when

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they're really not quite synonymous. Okay, so what's your real point. Well,

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he kind of did this whole introduction about fake news.

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Then he went to Romans chapter three. He went to

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Romans chapter three, verse nine, and he read, what then

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are we better than they? Not at all, For we

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have previously charged both Jews and Greeks that they are

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all under sin? And then he starts reading verse ten

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and following, there is none righteous, no not one. There

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is none who understands, there is none who seeks God

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after God. They have all turned aside. They've all together

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become unprofitable. There is none who does good, no not one.

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Then he jumped down to verse twenty eight. Therefore we

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conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from

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the deeds of the law. That's all Romans chapter three.

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If I didn't give you the name of the book.

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When he kind of pivoted to Romans three, first, I

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got very interested because we're kind of we're doing a

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series in our study of the Book of Romans on

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the word. Therefore, well, he read a there four passage

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in Romans. He was in Romans three, but then I

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was confused, Well, wait a minute, what does Romans three

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nine to twenty eight have to do with fake news?

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He just spent all of this time talking about fake news. Well,

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then he said, okay, there's a problem in the Church

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of Rome, and this problem was they were very basically,

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you know, God loves the Jews. God loves the Jews

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and he doesn't love the Gentiles. So there was a

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problem in the church. And then Paul began to try

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to fix the problem. Well, then he tried to kind

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of say that the problem was like fake news. I

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guess the fake news was God only loves the Jews,

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and he said that it came from the culture. But

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I'm like, well, no, this was a theological understanding, and

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so I didn't know how he was attaching it to

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fake news. It was kind of weird, right, So he

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never really addressed it. He never really addressed how the

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problem was resolved. Then he kind of moved to somewhere else.

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Then he started talking about his mom, who didn't like

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new music, only like traditional music. And the whole thing

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was kind of like, so, what is the sermon about?

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Is this sermon about fake news? Or is this sermon

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about Romans three nine to twenty eight. If it's about

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nine to twenty eight, then let's figure out what the

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problem was, how Paul addressed the problem and what we

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can learn from it. But he didn't seem too interested

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in actually dealing with Romans Chapter three, even though that's

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the text. So then I'm like, okay, so what is

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the fake news? I don't really understand exactly what the

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sermon is even actually about that. So he said many

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things that I agreed with, he said some things I

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wasn't so sure about, But the main frustration we found

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ourselves was I don't really know what the sermon is about,

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which then led me to as I began this episode, saying,

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why why did I end up here? I really thought

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it was going to be I don't know. I guess

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I had all kinds of ideas. But that's why we

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listen to sermons, right, We never know what we're going

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to get, but we have to do something positive with it.

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So we will deal with Romans three. We may not

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deal with it here in this episode. If he doesn't

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deal with it, then we'll just we'll just you know,

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make comment on whatever he talks about. But in our

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Romans series, we're going to be doing all these messages

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on We're going to go through every therefore through the

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entire book of Romans. And then we looked yesterday at

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four Greek words that are translated therefore that there are

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slight differences to each one. Well, we'll get to the

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Romans three twenty eight therefore, which will make us go

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back and look at Romans three nine and following, so

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we will look at that just may not be in

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this particular message. But I don't know. I don't I

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think he's getting ready to give us some list of

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what he calls fake news in the church. I don't

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know if this has anything to do with Romans three,

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if it has anything to do with his mom not

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liking new music. I don't really know what this has

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to do with. But we're about to find out. I

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backed this up a little bit. He's just finishing the

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story about his mom not liking new music. All I

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can really do is just kind of walk us up

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to the edge of the pool and say let's jump in,

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and then we'll just we'll go from there. If you

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miss part one, go back and listen to it. Let's

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let's hope Part two. I don't know what we're gonna

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we're gonna do. I'm gonna do my very best to

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try to find something positive to come from this. But

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here we go.

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Remember the test is always biblical teaching. When you say something,

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have a conviction, it's okay to hold it. But before

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you say I test it, does the Bible say X done?

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Now we talked about this in part one. Let me

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talk about it again in part two. I know the

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Church loves to say that the test is what does

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the Bible say? Whatever you think, whatever you believe, whatever

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conviction you have, the test is what does the Bible say?

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That sounds so good, it sounds so righteous, it sounds

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so perfect. But let me remind you over and over

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again the reality. Look the way we sell Christianity as

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everyone holds up a Bible and go, this is the authority,

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and what we say and what we believe and what

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we do is based on the inerrant and fallible word

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of God, and everybody says amen, and everybody acts like, well,

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see it's all it's how perfect for us. But here's

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the reality. When you strip away all of the religiosity

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and the bravado and the fake spirituality. Here's the reality.

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As much as we want to say the Bible is

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the authority, what becomes the authority is your interpretation of

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the Bible. People who believe Christians should not own a television,

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who should not go to a movie theater, who should

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not play cards, who should not listen to any music

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that has, you know, a drum. Whatever. The women should

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not cut their hair, women should not wear makeup, whatever

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the case. No matter what the view is, everyone who

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holds those convictions and say they will say they gave

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it the Bible test and that the Bible agrees with them.

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The Pentecostal believes the Bible agrees with them, The Church

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of Christ believes the Bible agrees with them. The Lutheran

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believes the Bible agrees with them. You go just the Presbyterian,

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the Baptist, name the different kind of Baptists, the Methodists.

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You just go from denomination to the Charismatics. It doesn't

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matter the assemblies of God. You just go from denomination,

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church to church. Everyone will say, oh, I gave it

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the Biblical test and the Bible agrees with me. It

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sounds so good. To say, hey, whatever your conviction is,

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you have to give it the biblical test. Does the

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Bible support it? That sounds great. The reality is, though

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everyone thinks the Bible agrees with them, everyone thinks the

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Bible agrees with them. Everyone anyone who emails me to

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argue with me, or to tell me I'm wrong, or

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to tell me I'm stupid, or they believe the Bible

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is on their side. Well, obviously I would believe the

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Bible is on my side. So it's great to say that.

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But the reality is, this is the way it really

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really works when you really just want to be honest.

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we like to believe that the Bible is, but it

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really isn't. And you say, well, so what is the solution.

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I think the solution is that we have to acknowledge

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we already have this problem, and then we have to

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see if we can strip away our presuppositions, our previous

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understanding of the text. And every time we come to

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the Bible we study it anew, and we actually study

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the text carefully using Bible study methods, which we've talked

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about trying to handle things hermeneutically in a way where

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we truly understand how the text is put together, and

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that we're really willing to admit when the Bible seems

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to go against or does not support what we think.

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we've got to constantly see how we are, you know,

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how we're kind of you know. Sometimes I'll use this

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as an illustration. Maybe it's not the best illustration, but

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there's always the discussion about Wuiji boards, right, and everyone

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that no, no, you're moving it. You're you're moving it

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because you've got your hand on it. No, no, I'm

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not moving it. No you're moving it. Well, I think

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it's the same thing with the Bible. Everyone puts their

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hands on it, like, no, you're moving it. No I'm

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not moving it. Well you're moving it up, I'm moving

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it down. No, no, no, stop, get your hands off

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of it. It's God's word. But no matter how much

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we want to admit it or not, we move it.

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We make it say what we wanted to say. People

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disagree with me because they believe the Bible disagrees with me.

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I may disagree with them because I believe the Bible

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disagrees with them. Obviously, not everyone can be right, but

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it sounds good to say it must pass the biblical test. Well,

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the test it must pass ultimately is what you think,

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because that's ultimately who the authority is.

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Doesn't then you got to be careful.

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Sometimes fake news tends to divide us because there are

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these kinds of people and those kinds of people, like

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in the passage in Roman Jews and non Jews. Now,

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the problem with the gentiles in church wasn't that they

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didn't claim Jesus.

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They claimed the very same Jesus.

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They got baptized, they got saved, they made all those commitments,

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they were tigers and all those things in it church.

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It's just they had a different background. And because they

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had a different background, well they ate different foods, they

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liked different music, they dressed differently.

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They were just different.

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my people are God's people.

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See what I don't like about the way he's presenting

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the wrong Now see now he's back to the Romans problem. Okay,

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I don't like the way he presents the problem. He

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seems to look at it. Oh wait, these gentiles come

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in we don't like this, we don't like that. Oh,

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it's just easier for us to say, well, we're God's chosen.

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This way of thinking did not happen because the Gentiles

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came into the church. This way of thinking predated the

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gentiles arrival in the church. They already thought this way.

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going to send the Messiah. He's going to destroy all

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of our enemies, and he's going to establish the key

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them on earth, and we're gonna rull and reign with him.

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They already understood themselves to be we are children of Abraham,

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we are God's chosen. They already understood that. They didn't

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need the Gentiles to show up to go, oh, well,

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it's just easier to say this. No, they already thought that.

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what do we do with the gentiles? And there was

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immediate conflict because the identity of the early church was

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Jewish and they did not like the Gentiles. They thought

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the Gentiles in a sense, were defiled, were corrupted, not

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to eat with them, not to have anything to do

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with them. This way of thinking predated the Gentiles arrival.

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the Gentiles were there. They already held the idea. They

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only presented and spoke the idea when the Gentiles arrived.

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They were already speaking the idea before the Gentiles arrival.

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So I don't like the way he's kind of reshaping

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what actually occurred. Again, I don't know if this is

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about Romans three or he keeps saying it's about fake

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I don't really know what the sermon actually is about yet,

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but hopefully we'll find out.

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preacher said. People were hanging on to that because old

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habits die hard, you know. And so Paul had to

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write listen, and then he wrote the passages we read

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We're all sinners, none righteous, no, not to one.

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So on screen are some.

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Ideas of fake news and how it can take shape.

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teachings or giving false teachings for instance. You know, churches

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are good about this, and I hope this doesn't offend you,

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but it has been on placards.

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God hates fags, and you know what I mean.

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a time that it never was acceptable, but it was

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common to hear that kind of thing. And I was

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taught things like that growing up, and taught things like

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that and even in college that there were certain groups

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God probably hated them.

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Okay, now, wow he went there. Okay, again, I don't

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really understand exactly the structure of a sermon, but let's

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just set all of that aside. That there was that

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in the church. There has been times where these placards

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would show up that God hates and then a very

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derogatory term, a very derogatory term that is, that was

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used to refer to homosexuals. Now, yes, I have witnessed

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that kind of nonsense in the church. I have fought

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against it almost since day one. I remember my church

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in Papilion, Nebraska, there was a past a guest speaker

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who came to the church and talked about punching homosexual

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in the face. And I literally could not believe what

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I was hearing. I was so angry. There was literally

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almost promoting like you know, hatred and vi against someone

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because of their sexual preference. And I'm like, for crying

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out loud, this is ridiculous. Yeah, so I have seen

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and heard this kind of thing inside the church. It

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is horrific. It is horrible, it is ungodly. It's not

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showing love to our enemy, which we are literally called

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to do. There's nothing righteous about it. It is ridiculous.

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used by people who don't even who don't even really

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of our educational things that we had to do. They

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would sometimes bring us all in and then that would

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put these different signs on the wall. One would be

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agree strongly agree, disagree strongly disagree, and then they would

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throw out controversial subjects and you would have to get

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then everyone would argue. Now, what they wanted to demonstrate

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is that everyone in the military comes from radically different backgrounds,

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with radically different beliefs, but yet you have to come

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together for the for the mission and to be able

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to you know, to work together. But what would drive

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me crazy is one of the things they brought up

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one time, uh in Aerman leadership school was the thing

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of homosexuality. And then you had all these people start

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yelling and screaming about homosexuality, that it's wrong and it

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doesn't belong in the military and all this stuff. And

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then they would start they would start make trying to

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make our well, God hates it and the Bible condemns it.

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where were you last night? You were at the strip club?

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You you were, you were sharing your pornography. But yet

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you're gonna use the Bible to condemn homosexuality. What what?

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What ridiculous? That's ridiculous. Okay, if you're gonna come on,

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we're we're all sinners now, by by no means am

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I saying we justify sin. What I'm saying is when

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the church does put forth this idea of hate someone

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because of a sexual preference, that look, you can say

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that the sexual preference is wrong, you can say the

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action is sinful, you can say that it's ungodly. But

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just remember, while you're pointing at their sexual sin, you

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better look at your own sexual sin. Come on, you

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better look at your own Better look at your own lust,

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your own desires, all the things you have done, all

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the things you want to do, all the things you

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may be looking at now. Again, I don't know what

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this has to do with fake news, but I guess

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what he's trying to demonstrate is the church has promoted

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this idea that God hates this particular group, and then

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that is fake news. So this would be fake news

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being originated inside the church. He's using the term fake news.

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I would just say, this is just utterly, horribly, just sinful.

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and oh getting I'm getting ready to take off some people.

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But I definitely have known Christian men who yell and

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scream about how horrible homosexuality is, so horrible homosexuality is,

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and screaming about it, maybe at an unguarded time or

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maybe when they come for help, they will admit that

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they have a porn problem. And then when you find

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out what they're some of the porn that they're looking at,

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you're like, well, that's that's two women. I thought you

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loathed and hated homosexuality. See, so sometimes our hatred, it's

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just because we dis we two men that may disgust us,

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that may be vile to us, but it may be

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a fleshly hatred. It may be a fleshly discussed and

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has nothing to do with godliness. Yeah, so I mean

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that something that has to be discuss So all right,

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so let's see where he's going to take this. This

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is kind of a I'm trying to figure out why

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he so tried to shape this under the guise of

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fake news. But okay, let's see where he goes with this.

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I am I am, I'm very much in agreement with

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him bringing this up because I think the church should

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be ashamed of its history of running around usually you know,

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yelling at some homosexual gathering or march or parade or whatever,

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and out there yelling and screaming just vile things, and

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somehow thinking that you're preaching the gospel when all you're

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doing is screaming and yelling at people, and you're not,

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in any way, shape or form even having a meaningful conversation.

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So you're presenting the gospel. I think those things issues

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do need to be addressed.

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Nothing could be further from the truth.

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Of course, Number one, you should never use the word

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fag and references to homosexuals because it's denigrating and insulting

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and it's intended to hurt them and separate them. And see,

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this is one of the key hallmarks of fake news.

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It separates people. Whenever you do something, say something, believe something,

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it separates people into groups good and bad. Well, that's

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a q fake news because the Bible doesn't do that.

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There are none righteous, no, not one. We're all sinners,

463
00:26:17.079 --> 00:26:20.960
bound for Hell. We're all desperate, see, and so the

464
00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:23.640
Bible is the test there. But the Church has done

465
00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:28.440
that and sometimes that's extreme. But sometimes you'll hear people

466
00:26:28.480 --> 00:26:31.359
talk about homosexuals are different people in a group, and

467
00:26:31.559 --> 00:26:33.640
they talk about what pagans they are, what sinners, and

468
00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:39.359
you've got to be careful. I understand biblical conviction, but

469
00:26:39.480 --> 00:26:44.599
how we think of people personally isn't always something that

470
00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:47.119
the Bible is talking about. The Bible wants us to

471
00:26:47.359 --> 00:26:50.720
love and be gracious towards people, and that's so hard

472
00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:55.599
we focus I use that homosexual issue. In the scriptures.

473
00:26:55.640 --> 00:26:58.279
There are at least four or five different passages where

474
00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:01.680
Paul or others give a law list of sin. And

475
00:27:01.720 --> 00:27:04.799
you've seen those lists and interesting reading. Read them all

476
00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:09.160
and see which ones really gets you messed up, because

477
00:27:09.279 --> 00:27:11.480
there's always a homosexual issue because we don't know what

478
00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:13.359
to do with that, don't know. Can't I be nice

479
00:27:13.359 --> 00:27:14.759
to them? Or should it be nice to them? Should

480
00:27:14.759 --> 00:27:16.759
I shun them? Blah blah blah, And people do that

481
00:27:16.960 --> 00:27:21.240
and you know that. But then there's those other sins arrogance,

482
00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:27.960
prideful gluttons, Oh my gosh, there's that fat sugar thing,

483
00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:33.680
and envy and gossip and all sorts of unrighteousness, people

484
00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:34.880
who fight too much.

485
00:27:34.680 --> 00:27:36.240
Who decorate each other.

486
00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:38.799
See, all those things are there, and there's this pesky

487
00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:41.039
truth in scripture, and there's the test scripture.

488
00:27:41.799 --> 00:27:46.200
Sin is sin, It all separates you from God.

489
00:27:46.440 --> 00:27:50.319
So if that be the case, then if somehow you're

490
00:27:50.359 --> 00:27:53.880
interpreting a passage that allows you to be disgusted and

491
00:27:53.920 --> 00:27:59.359
hate and dismiss other people, well your rationale doesn't pass

492
00:27:59.400 --> 00:27:59.759
the test.

493
00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:00.279
Test.

494
00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:02.920
Again, is is it consistent with Biblical teaching?

495
00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:03.920
That has to be it.

496
00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:08.759
Not how you feel, not what some preachers said, but

497
00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:09.880
what does a Bible teach?

498
00:28:09.880 --> 00:28:10.759
And that's a tough one.

499
00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:14.240
Any rule or believe the serge to give you the

500
00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:19.319
ability to separate yourself from others has to be rejected because, well,

501
00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:23.440
like Paul said, none righteous, not even one.

502
00:28:24.359 --> 00:28:25.799
And he's talking to us, isn't he.

503
00:28:29.079 --> 00:28:32.559
He's making some very very strong points here, like I

504
00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:34.880
may not understand the structure of a sermon, but this

505
00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:38.440
is some very this is a powerful point, because he's

506
00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:40.960
absolutely right. In the Bible, there's a lot of times

507
00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:43.640
there's these lists, this and this and this and this

508
00:28:43.720 --> 00:28:46.039
is unrighteous, and it gives you this list and many

509
00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:51.720
of those lists if they include homosexuality, they include it

510
00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:54.640
right with all these other things. And everyone will act

511
00:28:54.680 --> 00:28:57.799
one way towards homosexuality that don't even come close to

512
00:28:58.000 --> 00:29:01.480
acting that way about all those others. They're not gonna

513
00:29:01.559 --> 00:29:04.359
be yelling and screaming at the glutton. That's someone who

514
00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:06.759
is slothful. They're not gonna be yelling and screaming if

515
00:29:06.759 --> 00:29:10.920
someone is prideful or arrogant. We treat some sins radically

516
00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:14.200
different than we do other sins. And I've always been

517
00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:18.119
bothered by someone commits that sin. It's the end, they're finished,

518
00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:20.400
they're done. But then they won't they won't handle this

519
00:29:20.480 --> 00:29:22.359
sin or this sin or this sin the same way

520
00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:25.759
I've talked about this so many times. I learned this

521
00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:28.559
even in Bible College. I'll never forget. We were looking

522
00:29:28.640 --> 00:29:31.599
at some of the passages and talking about well, divorce

523
00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:35.160
and remarriage, right, Well, the Bible in some cases seem

524
00:29:35.200 --> 00:29:36.880
to make it very clear that if you get divorced

525
00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:40.559
and get remarried, you become an adulterer, an adulteress, all right.

526
00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:43.200
Some trying to argue, well, no, well, if you get

527
00:29:43.200 --> 00:29:46.799
divorced for this reason, then you can get remarried. Others say, well, no,

528
00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:48.759
you may be able to get divorced for that reason,

529
00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:51.519
but you cannot get remarried because if you get remarried,

530
00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:54.559
because what God has joined together, no man can put

531
00:29:54.599 --> 00:29:57.200
us under. So you're still in a sense connected in

532
00:29:57.240 --> 00:29:59.920
God's eyes to that other person we'll say, if they

533
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:02.319
commit this sin. And so there's always this back and

534
00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:05.359
forth about whether you can or can. Nobody can ever agree, right,

535
00:30:05.640 --> 00:30:09.240
But there is a strong possibility, in fact, a strong

536
00:30:09.359 --> 00:30:13.519
probability that in almost every single church there are people

537
00:30:13.519 --> 00:30:17.200
who were married, they got divorced, and they got remarried,

538
00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:23.359
and biblically speaking, that remarriage means they are living in adultery,

539
00:30:24.839 --> 00:30:28.000
they're living in adultery. And guess what, do they get treated

540
00:30:28.039 --> 00:30:32.160
as adulterers? No? Do they get barred from the Lord's Supper? No,

541
00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:36.400
you have adulterers sitting in the church, many cases, may

542
00:30:36.440 --> 00:30:39.400
be teaching Sunday school, maybe a deacon who knows who,

543
00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:42.160
depending on the type of church, who knows that they

544
00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:45.079
could be serving in all kinds of positions. Nobody sees them.

545
00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:48.039
They don't have to abstain from it, and they're just

546
00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:51.319
perfectly okay, and you know, but there there. But then

547
00:30:51.319 --> 00:30:53.519
if someone else in the church commits this sin or

548
00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:56.000
this sin, oh, we have to have church discipline. We

549
00:30:56.079 --> 00:30:57.640
have to, and we make it a big deal and

550
00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:00.759
it's public scandal. But you've got ten people in your

551
00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:05.119
church who are living literally living in adultery. Well, you know,

552
00:31:05.559 --> 00:31:08.279
divorce and remarriage. That's kind of complicated, and we make

553
00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:12.279
all kinds of excuses. Now that's just one example, and

554
00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:16.480
I'll never remember. I never forget that. In Bible College,

555
00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:20.440
our Bible Institute, the pastors like you just basically rip

556
00:31:20.519 --> 00:31:23.079
those verses out of your Bible because you're never gonna

557
00:31:23.079 --> 00:31:25.440
be able to apply them in any meaningful way. You're

558
00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:28.759
gonna lose half your church because you're gonna have people

559
00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:31.279
in your church who are married, who were married, who

560
00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:35.200
got divorced and remarried, and in many cases, biblically speaking,

561
00:31:35.240 --> 00:31:39.559
they're probably living in adultery. And you're like, so we

562
00:31:39.799 --> 00:31:42.960
just what, we just grate on a curve. We just

563
00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:46.359
look the other way. And there's plenty of sins where

564
00:31:46.359 --> 00:31:50.880
the church does that. This sin, death, the grab the rocks,

565
00:31:50.920 --> 00:31:54.119
we're having a stoning at midnight, grab the nails, We're

566
00:31:54.160 --> 00:31:57.880
having a crucifixion. We're gonna have public scandal, we're gonna destroy,

567
00:31:58.119 --> 00:32:01.319
we're gonna embarrass, We're and others were like, okay, it's

568
00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:03.880
you know, a little pride, a little gossip, a little slander,

569
00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:06.240
a little this, a little and it's like, why do

570
00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:09.799
we have such a weird scale? Because we get involved.

571
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:16.799
And sometimes the sins you hate, you either hate them

572
00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:20.039
because you know deep down you have a problem with

573
00:32:20.119 --> 00:32:22.759
it and you struggle with it. Sometimes people's hatred for

574
00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:27.839
a sin is simply projection. They're projecting it's their hatred

575
00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:31.559
for themselves. They know deep down that's what they desire

576
00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:34.519
it they struggle with it. So sometimes people's extreme hate

577
00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:38.079
is simply a cover. Sometimes their extreme hate is simply

578
00:32:38.119 --> 00:32:41.119
because their flesh despises it and they don't like it.

579
00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:43.440
It's more a lot so much of our dealing with

580
00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:47.279
sin is so fleshly. We so many a lot of

581
00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:49.920
times we're not very spiritual and how we approach it.

582
00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:53.160
But he's very right that the Bible in many cases

583
00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:56.319
puts all of these sins together, and we pull out

584
00:32:56.519 --> 00:33:05.720
certain ones and we treat those differently than the rest. Yeah,

585
00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:08.400
I know that doesn't make anyone happy, but I think

586
00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:11.839
it has to be. Look, I admire him even though

587
00:33:11.880 --> 00:33:13.880
I don't understand the structure of this sermon, and I

588
00:33:13.880 --> 00:33:15.839
still don't even know what Romans three really had to

589
00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:17.359
do with any of this, and I don't even really

590
00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:19.920
know what the text is. I do admire the fact

591
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:22.160
he's willing to go in and deal with these very

592
00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:24.799
controversial issues because they need to be dealt with. So

593
00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:27.119
I do admire that. All right, let's see what else

594
00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:27.920
he has for us.

595
00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:36.559
Another thing, when you promote or tolerate distortions of biblical truth.

596
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:40.839
This is when you hear something that is wrong, it

597
00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:42.680
just never occurs you to correct it or.

598
00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:43.400
Stand against it.

599
00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:46.839
Well, that's just him or you just you don't care

600
00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:49.720
enough to get or it doesn't involve you.

601
00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:50.599
And that's easy to do.

602
00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:52.720
In our culture, we hear a lot of things that

603
00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:58.079
are so negative and so critical and so unbiblical, and

604
00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:01.000
it really may not affect our circle. So we just

605
00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:03.319
don't worry about it. We don't think about it, we

606
00:34:03.319 --> 00:34:06.640
don't say anything about it. And maybe we should. And again,

607
00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:09.079
you don't need to go looking for a fight, really,

608
00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:11.599
but when it comes up, if it does come up,

609
00:34:11.679 --> 00:34:14.920
you know, sometimes be willing to say the uncomfortable thing.

610
00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:18.000
Well, maybe maybe we're wrong.

611
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:25.360
I just finished a book on the year nineteen twenty seven,

612
00:34:25.400 --> 00:34:27.760
and that was a big year in our nation's history.

613
00:34:27.960 --> 00:34:28.679
Some of you know that.

614
00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:31.039
A lot of big things happened, you know, Babe Ruth

615
00:34:31.079 --> 00:34:34.280
did his big thing, and several other things. And one

616
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:37.320
of the things that was so common is the rise

617
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:39.119
of the kkk Ku klux Klan.

618
00:34:39.480 --> 00:34:41.719
Now you know this, You know what they are, and

619
00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:43.639
you know what they stood for. Absolute racism.

620
00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:46.760
Were the Hoods, and for some reason in the early

621
00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:51.000
twenties they became wildly popular all the way across America,

622
00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:53.800
not just in the Deep South, but in big cities

623
00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:55.559
even in the North. They were just kind of the

624
00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:58.480
cool kids, which is bizarre because we understand what they

625
00:34:58.480 --> 00:35:01.559
are now, But there was a for about seven or

626
00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:07.719
eight years where they were just wildly popular. The craziest

627
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:10.639
thing I read in this story about the Kkak. They

628
00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:13.440
were so popular that they had Christmas parties for kids

629
00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:19.960
everybody invited, not really white kids only, and Santa would

630
00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:24.039
wear a hat not I mean the hood, and he

631
00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:27.239
would pass out gifts. The backdrop was a burning cross.

632
00:35:28.039 --> 00:35:31.039
Now we find that so offensive, and yet no one

633
00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:36.440
it didn't occur to almost anyone many Christians to say

634
00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:38.800
there was something wrong with that. It just didn't occur

635
00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:40.920
to them. So I don't know if they were blinded

636
00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:43.199
by their ideology or their preachers were of Missilidi.

637
00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:46.039
I mean, I don't understand some of those things. But

638
00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:47.199
what happens is.

639
00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:52.599
Christians can just become so complacent or unthinking, or they

640
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:55.679
just go with the flow, and the pressures of the

641
00:35:55.760 --> 00:35:58.639
day and of the culture tend to sway us where

642
00:35:59.159 --> 00:36:01.880
not only do we not test things against scripture, and

643
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:03.159
never even occurs to.

644
00:36:03.119 --> 00:36:05.079
Us to test things against scripture.

645
00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:07.719
So we have to look at trends and culture and

646
00:36:08.039 --> 00:36:09.920
how we feel and how we talk and all those

647
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:12.880
kinds of things, and you know, we do it fast

648
00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:13.800
forward decades.

649
00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:15.760
You know, sometimes we do it now.

650
00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:19.599
I have friends that say, you can't be a Christian

651
00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:22.880
and be a Democrat. And then I have friends who say,

652
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:26.519
you can't be a Christian and be a Republican, or

653
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:30.679
you can't be a Christian and believe in abortion, you

654
00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:33.159
can't be a Christian and believe that people.

655
00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:33.599
Should have guns.

656
00:36:33.639 --> 00:36:36.000
And we tack all those things on it, and all

657
00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:37.920
those are distortions of the truth, aren't they.

658
00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:43.159
Wow, he's going in. Well, a couple of things. First,

659
00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:46.559
he's absolutely right that there's been times in church history

660
00:36:46.599 --> 00:36:51.559
where the Christians have been silent or support absolutely abhorrent,

661
00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:57.119
horrible things, which once again demonstrates my overarching philosophy. As

662
00:36:57.199 --> 00:36:59.280
much as we want to say the Bible is the authority,

663
00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:02.239
we because the authority. And it's amazing how we can

664
00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:05.599
make the Bible support whatever we want it to support.

665
00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:08.840
And I'm so glad he brought this distortion up. I

666
00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:12.920
am so sick and tired of Christian saying you can't

667
00:37:13.079 --> 00:37:15.880
do you can't vote this way, you can't believe this

668
00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:19.480
and be a Christian. I am so sick of that.

669
00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:23.599
All right, you are a Christian because of your faith

670
00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:26.639
and the finished work of Jesus Christ. That is what

671
00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:29.480
makes you a Christian. If you may believe things that

672
00:37:29.559 --> 00:37:34.920
contradict what Christianity teaches, you may believe or support things

673
00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:38.079
that are an agreement with Christianity or in opposition to

674
00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:41.000
Christian teaching, that does not make you a Christian or

675
00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:44.239
make you less than a Christian. Your Christianity is you've

676
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:47.159
put your faith in a finished work of Jesus Christ.

677
00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:50.360
From that point forward, you are a Christian because you

678
00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:52.840
have put your faith in Christ. You have believed on Him,

679
00:37:53.039 --> 00:37:55.679
and now you are in him. He is in you.

680
00:37:55.679 --> 00:37:59.119
You are now a child of God. You are kept

681
00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:03.480
by Him. Now, all these things we believe or don't believe,

682
00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:06.639
whether we may argue, well, I don't know if that's

683
00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:08.679
really an agreement with Christianity. Well I don't know if

684
00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:11.679
that's really an agreement with Christianity. You can have that debate,

685
00:38:11.960 --> 00:38:18.360
but it's utterly mindless. It's ridiculous, it's dumb. It's ignorant

686
00:38:18.440 --> 00:38:21.480
to look at people going who whoa, whoa, whoa, oh whoa?

687
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:24.840
You support that, Well, you can't be a Christian. How

688
00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:29.000
dare you say that because now you're making Christianity is.

689
00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:30.840
To be a Christian, you must not only believe this,

690
00:38:31.079 --> 00:38:34.599
you must vote this way. You must support this political ideology.

691
00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:38.119
Your Christianity is not dependent on what you vote for.

692
00:38:38.199 --> 00:38:41.119
Don't vote for who you support politically, what your political

693
00:38:41.159 --> 00:38:45.280
ideology is. Your Christianity is based on the finished work

694
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:49.280
of Jesus Christ. And anytime you throw these other things

695
00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:52.960
in there, you're distorting the gospel. You're corrupting the gospel.

696
00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:56.840
You're polluting the gospel. You're destroying the gospel, and you're

697
00:38:56.880 --> 00:38:59.840
adding things to the gospel that you have no right

698
00:38:59.840 --> 00:39:02.639
to add to it because the gospel is not yours.

699
00:39:02.840 --> 00:39:05.880
So I'm in complete agreement with him there that this

700
00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:12.360
stuff is just a distortion. But I've heard that you

701
00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:18.840
cannot be a Christian and vote Democrat. Whoop? What what

702
00:39:19.480 --> 00:39:21.360
is that scripture? Let me see? Let me see. I

703
00:39:21.639 --> 00:39:23.760
think I think I remember it. I think it goes

704
00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:27.119
something like this, for God so loved the world that

705
00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:29.400
he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believed in

706
00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:31.719
him should not perish but have every lasting life. It

707
00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:34.039
doesn't say if you believe in him. Plus you don't

708
00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:42.719
vote Democrat. You're adding things, you're distorting the gospel. You

709
00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:45.199
may disagree with the way they vote. You may make

710
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:49.239
an a a argument that biblically you can't support these

711
00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:51.519
You may be able to make that argument that, but

712
00:39:51.559 --> 00:39:56.400
that don't call their Christianity into question. The Christianity is

713
00:39:56.440 --> 00:39:59.599
because they put their faith in Christ. They've trusting in Christ.

714
00:39:59.800 --> 00:40:04.039
They they are accepting Christ's sacrifice for them, his substitutionary

715
00:40:04.039 --> 00:40:07.320
atonement for them. They're acknowledging their sin. They know they

716
00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:11.920
need His righteousness, they need his that's salvation. It has

717
00:40:11.960 --> 00:40:14.400
nothing to do with who you vote for. And if

718
00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:18.239
you say that you're the problem, not them. Now it's not.

719
00:40:18.320 --> 00:40:20.920
They're not the problem because they voted Democrat. You're a

720
00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:27.519
problem because you're distorting the gospel. You're the heretic, not them,

721
00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:32.840
because you are destroying the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Any

722
00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:37.119
church or pastor who says those non things, they have

723
00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:43.639
left biblical Christianity. They've now destroyed the Gospel. That's where

724
00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:48.320
I get frustrated how someone votes or doesn't vote. I

725
00:40:48.360 --> 00:40:51.400
may agree, may disagree. What I'm more concerned with. I'm

726
00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:53.159
not going to argue with them about who they vote for.

727
00:40:53.480 --> 00:40:55.599
You know what I want to talk about is, hey,

728
00:40:56.679 --> 00:40:59.920
let's study the Bible. Let's read scripture, because if he

729
00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:03.039
continue to read scripture and study scripture, that may begin

730
00:41:03.079 --> 00:41:06.519
to impact how they see certain social or cultural issues.

731
00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:08.480
I don't need to fight about it. I need to

732
00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:10.039
get them in the Word of God. I need to

733
00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:11.920
get them reading the Bible. I need to get them

734
00:41:11.960 --> 00:41:14.639
studying the Bible. I need them doing Bible study methods.

735
00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:16.880
I need them to learn hermoneutics, I need them to

736
00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:20.760
learn theology, I need them to learn church history. That's

737
00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:23.920
what I don't need to fight all these stupid culture

738
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:26.880
wars and all these political issues, where then we so

739
00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:29.559
do and guess what, well, we're over there fighting this.

740
00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:34.679
We're distorting. We're destroying and distorting the Gospel. That should

741
00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:39.480
be what concerns you.

742
00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:44.920
Strangely enough, Christians can have wrong ideas. Following Jesus doesn't

743
00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:49.159
mean everything you believe is correct. And sometimes the Bible

744
00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:53.960
doesn't give clear teachings on some things. They give hints

745
00:41:53.960 --> 00:41:56.719
and directions, But the Bible doesn't say thou shalt not

746
00:41:57.199 --> 00:41:59.039
have an AR fifteen in your as.

747
00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:00.320
It just doesn't say that.

748
00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:03.280
The fact is when Jesus and his disciples are prayed

749
00:42:03.320 --> 00:42:05.119
to hit the road. They said they had a couple

750
00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:06.880
of swords. You know what he said. He did not

751
00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:09.320
say put him down. We're not going to be armed.

752
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:12.199
He said that would be enough and just dropped it.

753
00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:15.639
So you know, the Bible doesn't always give clear teachings

754
00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:19.840
on some issues, so you have to be careful. Fake

755
00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:22.679
news is when you draw a line these people are

756
00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:28.039
Christian and these people aren't. The test is the biblical

757
00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:32.119
message what determines who is a Christian?

758
00:42:33.000 --> 00:42:36.440
Do they follow Jesus as savior. That's it.

759
00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:41.880
People can follow Jesus as Savior and have messed up politics.

760
00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:49.320
I would argue they believe in Jesus as Savior. They're

761
00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:52.559
trusting in him, They've put their faith in him. We

762
00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:56.559
are saved by grace alone, through faith alone, not by following,

763
00:42:56.840 --> 00:43:02.400
but by believing. All right, I think that is important.

764
00:43:02.719 --> 00:43:05.280
But you're right, Christians have all kinds of messed up ideas.

765
00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:09.039
Since when do you get to determine this idea now

766
00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:11.159
if it's in and now when if it's a thiological

767
00:43:11.199 --> 00:43:14.320
where you're denying the deity of Christ, or do you're

768
00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:19.519
denying substitution in other words, you're denying key fundamental doctrines

769
00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:22.599
but messed up ideas. That the church has been made

770
00:43:22.639 --> 00:43:27.719
up of messed up ideas for two thousand years.

771
00:43:29.199 --> 00:43:31.400
Yes, I don't like it anymore than you do.

772
00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:35.639
So what we have to do is be our best,

773
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:41.320
think before we talk, and be careful when you talk.

774
00:43:41.719 --> 00:43:45.400
You know, I reference Martha Smith. You don't know her.

775
00:43:45.800 --> 00:43:46.519
She dead now.

776
00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:49.079
She got her PhD in psychology when she was sixty

777
00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:52.079
five years old, and she was a hoot. She was hilarious,

778
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:54.679
and it was so hard to have a conversation with her.

779
00:43:54.679 --> 00:43:57.760
She had this annoying practice of thinking before she talked,

780
00:43:58.199 --> 00:43:58.760
and it was.

781
00:43:58.719 --> 00:43:59.639
Just so hard.

782
00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:01.960
You know, in a normal conversation, you talk back and

783
00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:04.280
forth and you say kind of crazy things. And Martha

784
00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:10.559
didn't do that. And I'd say something and she'd and

785
00:44:10.599 --> 00:44:14.239
then she would say something, and sometimes it caught me

786
00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:16.800
off guard because she had obviously thought through it, and

787
00:44:16.840 --> 00:44:19.119
I didn't do that all the time. So and she

788
00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:22.199
would teach me that, you know, got to be careful

789
00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:25.960
how you say things, so before you speak about those people,

790
00:44:26.320 --> 00:44:30.280
and before your convictions divide up people into groups. Does

791
00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:37.599
it pass the test of scripture? We're all sinners. Fortunately

792
00:44:38.079 --> 00:44:41.599
God helps us. On screen is another idea we can

793
00:44:41.599 --> 00:44:43.639
go to that next grace. God has given the church

794
00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:47.119
the truth about His love and grace for all. As

795
00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:50.960
I said, fake news in the church always divides. That's

796
00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:54.480
the goal. It always labels people. That's the goal of

797
00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:56.920
fake news in the church. And people don't always call

798
00:44:56.960 --> 00:44:59.679
it fake news. They call it convictions. God has told

799
00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:02.800
me God, I feel I really believe in those kinds

800
00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:07.199
of things. Whenever someone says that, just sharpen your hearing.

801
00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:12.000
See what they say on screen is the real news

802
00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:17.000
of the Gospel. Follow along as I get read again

803
00:45:17.119 --> 00:45:18.360
in verses nine through eleven.

804
00:45:19.119 --> 00:45:22.280
What then, are we better than they? Well, not at all.

805
00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:24.159
We've already charged it.

806
00:45:24.199 --> 00:45:26.840
Both Jews and Greeks are all under sin, as it

807
00:45:26.920 --> 00:45:30.000
is written, None are I just not even one. There

808
00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:36.000
is none who understands, none who seeks for God. Pretty clear,

809
00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:39.239
isn't it. He's quoting no Testament scripture, of course, and

810
00:45:39.320 --> 00:45:42.400
he's saying, listen for you guys, start dividing up into

811
00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:44.360
groups and saying these are good and these are bad.

812
00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:48.880
Here's the word. And they all knew this. The Jewish people, remember,

813
00:45:48.920 --> 00:45:51.599
were the ones that were doing this, and so what

814
00:45:51.639 --> 00:45:56.880
did he do? He quoted Jewish scripture to them, still relevant, guys.

815
00:45:57.639 --> 00:46:00.519
He was saying, So there's no group.

816
00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:05.360
Baptists aren't better than Catholics, Catholics aren't better than Methodists,

817
00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:07.440
and so on and so forth. All that nonsense that

818
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:10.880
we've always talked about, that was all just well, it's

819
00:46:10.920 --> 00:46:16.480
just nonsense, fake news. Sometimes Baptists are better than others

820
00:46:16.519 --> 00:46:21.199
on some things. Once in a while, sometimes Methodists got

821
00:46:21.199 --> 00:46:24.440
it down, and I hate to admit it, sometimes Catholics

822
00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:26.480
got a better grasp with them some things than we do.

823
00:46:26.960 --> 00:46:29.159
And that's the way it is. But no one group

824
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:32.760
is the group. There's no cool kids in the kingdom.

825
00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:36.719
And you know what I mean by that, right, everybody's

826
00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:40.480
in the same boat, no special group Verse twelve.

827
00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:40.920
Look at that.

828
00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:44.719
If you would all have turned aside together, they have

829
00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:49.400
become useless. There is none who does good, not even one.

830
00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:59.320
When you talk to a sinner, remember your sin sure

831
00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:02.400
changes things. When you remember your sin, when you were

832
00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:05.400
ever conscious of where you've been and how you were

833
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:09.519
and what you said just yesterday or this morning. When

834
00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:13.679
you do that, then it's really hard to dismiss someone

835
00:47:13.800 --> 00:47:17.880
or talk down to him because you remember, and that's

836
00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:18.519
a good idea.

837
00:47:18.920 --> 00:47:21.039
We all struggle against sin.

838
00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:24.239
Now as you get older, I have observed that the

839
00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:27.920
grosser sins that are physically manifested don't bother us too

840
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:30.960
much anymore. We're too tired or too old to worry

841
00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:32.079
about that, you know those.

842
00:47:33.719 --> 00:47:35.639
Oh, that is such a good part. He makes a

843
00:47:35.679 --> 00:47:37.400
lot of good points now when he when he says

844
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:41.840
that we're you know, Catholics, Baptists, I would argue, philologically,

845
00:47:41.840 --> 00:47:44.440
there are differences, and those differences must be maintained, and

846
00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:47.239
those differences must be argued and must be fought. I

847
00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:52.880
completely would would would add that, however, he's completely a

848
00:47:53.000 --> 00:47:58.960
right that Catholics, Methodists, Baptists. We're all sinners. We all struggle,

849
00:47:59.039 --> 00:48:01.320
we all fail, we all make mistakes, we all do

850
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:04.440
horrible things. I mean, that is the case. We sometimes

851
00:48:04.519 --> 00:48:07.320
always act like we're better than them. But this, this

852
00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:11.360
is a very important point that he's that he is

853
00:48:11.639 --> 00:48:14.960
making here, is that we we all sin, we all

854
00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:19.480
fall short, we all do, we all make these mistakes.

855
00:48:19.519 --> 00:48:23.079
We we all we nobody has any corner on the

856
00:48:23.079 --> 00:48:25.719
truth right, And I'm gonna I'm gonna back this up

857
00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:27.280
just a little bit because I want you to hear

858
00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:29.800
this again, because he's making some very good points here,

859
00:48:29.800 --> 00:48:32.079
and I'll pick this back up right here we go

860
00:48:33.480 --> 00:48:33.880
do this.

861
00:48:34.119 --> 00:48:36.519
The Jewish people, remember, were the ones that were doing this.

862
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:39.880
And so what did he do? He quoted Jewish scripture

863
00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:45.960
to them. Still relevant guys. He was saying, So there's

864
00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:50.239
no special group. Bab just aren't better than Catholics, Catholics

865
00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:52.840
aren't better than Methodists, and so on and so forth.

866
00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:55.559
All that nonsense I've always talked about that was all

867
00:48:55.760 --> 00:49:01.880
just well, it's just nonsense, fake news. Sometimes Baptists are

868
00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:05.719
better than others on some things. Once in a while,

869
00:49:06.280 --> 00:49:09.840
sometimes Methodists got it down, and I hate to admit it,

870
00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:12.320
sometimes Catholics got a better grasp with them some things

871
00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:14.599
than we do. And that's the way it is. But

872
00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:18.360
no one group is the group. There's no cool kids

873
00:49:18.360 --> 00:49:20.480
in the kingdom. And you know what I mean by that, right,

874
00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:26.840
everybody's in the same boat, no special group Verse twelve.

875
00:49:26.840 --> 00:49:27.239
Look at that.

876
00:49:27.280 --> 00:49:31.000
If you would all have turned aside together, they have

877
00:49:31.079 --> 00:49:35.679
become useless. There is none who does good, not even one.

878
00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:45.599
When you talk to a sinner, remember your sin sure

879
00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:48.719
changes things. When you remember your sin, when you were

880
00:49:48.760 --> 00:49:51.679
ever conscious of where you've been and how you were

881
00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:55.800
and what you said just yesterday or this morning. When

882
00:49:55.840 --> 00:49:59.920
you do that, then it's really hard to dismiss someone

883
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:04.199
are talked down to them because you remember. And that's

884
00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:08.159
a good idea. We all struggle against sin as you

885
00:50:08.199 --> 00:50:11.480
get older. I have observed that the grocer sins that

886
00:50:11.519 --> 00:50:14.840
are physically manifested don't bother us too much anymore.

887
00:50:14.840 --> 00:50:19.440
Work Now, okay, first, some great points. It is very

888
00:50:19.480 --> 00:50:22.159
true whenever you think of someone else's sin, remember your

889
00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:25.719
own sin. We're always so worried about ever remember your sin.

890
00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:29.280
But I love this point right here. So many times

891
00:50:29.400 --> 00:50:32.280
Christians who get older, they're the ones who will hold

892
00:50:32.320 --> 00:50:33.920
two Well, if you do this, if you do this,

893
00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:35.880
if you do this, you're not saved, you're not saved.

894
00:50:35.920 --> 00:50:39.320
You're not saved. You're not saved. Well, it's easy to

895
00:50:39.440 --> 00:50:44.119
talk a big game when you get older, and many

896
00:50:44.199 --> 00:50:47.719
of the grosser sins you're no longer struggling with. You've

897
00:50:47.800 --> 00:50:52.039
moved past that stage. Your hormones aren't raging. This is

898
00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:55.320
not happening. You don't have this. Now you're married, you

899
00:50:55.400 --> 00:50:58.360
have a wife, you're you're older, you go to bed

900
00:50:58.400 --> 00:51:01.960
at nine o'clock at night, and so now you can

901
00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:05.039
talk a big game about how godly you are and

902
00:51:05.079 --> 00:51:09.159
how righteous you are, how holy you are, and how

903
00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:12.079
nobody else belongs in the Kingdom of God other than

904
00:51:12.119 --> 00:51:15.559
you because you're perfect. You're only perfect because now you're

905
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:25.880
sixty and you go to bed at seven PM. I

906
00:51:25.960 --> 00:51:29.920
get so tired of that. Right, But they forget all

907
00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:32.440
the sins they were struggling with. Well, wait, you claim

908
00:51:32.480 --> 00:51:34.400
to be a Christian. And remember when you were doing this,

909
00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:36.079
and you were doing this, and you were doing this,

910
00:51:36.199 --> 00:51:38.199
and you were doing this, and you were doing this. Oh,

911
00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:42.679
you weren't walking around yelling and screaming for lordship. If

912
00:51:42.719 --> 00:51:45.000
you do these things, you're not in the Kingdom of God.

913
00:51:45.199 --> 00:51:47.719
But now that you've moved past that stage of life,

914
00:51:47.880 --> 00:51:49.679
now all of a sudden, you're like, well, if you

915
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:52.119
do this, if you do this, then you're probably not saved.

916
00:51:52.519 --> 00:51:55.280
You used to do those very things. Well, claiming to

917
00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:58.639
be a Christian? What changed? Oh, you're now in a

918
00:51:58.679 --> 00:52:03.639
new stage of life. Now what you forget is not

919
00:52:03.880 --> 00:52:07.119
just because you're not struggling with those more grosser sins.

920
00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:09.679
If we use the term. Just because you're now not

921
00:52:09.719 --> 00:52:14.440
struggling with the more external demonstration doesn't mean you still

922
00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:17.360
don't have all kinds of sins internally. So what you

923
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:19.360
need to do is be more aware of your sin

924
00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:22.000
and then worrying about anybody else. Instead of trying to

925
00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:24.519
figure out who is or isn't in the Kingdom of God,

926
00:52:24.719 --> 00:52:27.519
you probably should worry about your own spiritual life and

927
00:52:27.559 --> 00:52:31.679
your own self. And remember people's salvation is not dependent

928
00:52:31.719 --> 00:52:33.760
on what they do or don't do. It's depending on

929
00:52:33.760 --> 00:52:36.119
what Christ did.

930
00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:39.800
We're too tired or too old to worry about that,

931
00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:42.519
you know, those big things. We're not going to kill

932
00:52:42.599 --> 00:52:45.199
somebody or not going to do drugs. Probably it costs

933
00:52:45.199 --> 00:52:48.280
too much all those things. But there's plenty of sins

934
00:52:48.280 --> 00:52:50.079
that we can do sitting in our chair, aren't there.

935
00:52:50.840 --> 00:52:54.360
Sure you can just sit there and sin. You don't

936
00:52:54.360 --> 00:53:01.519
even have to talk, and there you go, so acknowledge them,

937
00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:05.800
confess it to God, of course, and carry that with you.

938
00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:11.559
I said this yesterday, I thought this this morning. And

939
00:53:11.599 --> 00:53:14.000
so when you start talking to people whose lives are

940
00:53:14.039 --> 00:53:18.199
a train wreck, remember you know, every morning I am

941
00:53:18.239 --> 00:53:21.199
reminded of my sin as they deal with the daycare families,

942
00:53:21.400 --> 00:53:22.920
and a lot of them do have problems. There are

943
00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:25.280
a lot of problems with the addictions and all those

944
00:53:25.360 --> 00:53:27.519
kinds of things, and their lives are a mess.

945
00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:30.719
And it's easy to feel superior.

946
00:53:31.960 --> 00:53:36.280
Until I remember what I said yesterday or what I

947
00:53:36.360 --> 00:53:37.679
said this morning or whatever.

948
00:53:38.199 --> 00:53:39.719
You know, we're all the same.

949
00:53:40.320 --> 00:53:43.519
We all struggle against the sin, and that eliminates if

950
00:53:43.559 --> 00:53:46.599
you can keep that conscious, that eliminates this whole arrogant

951
00:53:46.639 --> 00:53:47.559
thing and.

952
00:53:47.599 --> 00:53:48.119
Us in them.

953
00:53:48.159 --> 00:53:50.639
And you don't get to do that anymore if you're

954
00:53:50.679 --> 00:53:57.000
conscious of your sin. One other thing, look of verses

955
00:53:57.000 --> 00:54:02.840
twenty seven through thirty, if you would, for then is boasting?

956
00:54:03.119 --> 00:54:06.719
It is excluded by what kind of law of works? Know,

957
00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:09.199
but by a law of faith. Before we maintain that

958
00:54:09.239 --> 00:54:11.800
a man is justified by faith apart from works of

959
00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:14.559
the law. Or is God the God of the Jews only?

960
00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:17.119
Is he not the God of the gentiles? Also yes

961
00:54:17.159 --> 00:54:20.840
of gentiles? Also, since indeed God who will justify the

962
00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:26.480
circumcise by faith and the uncircumcised through faith is one.

963
00:54:29.079 --> 00:54:36.920
Everybody's saved the same way. You don't necessarily talk about

964
00:54:36.960 --> 00:54:39.599
it the same I remember one time I was sitting

965
00:54:39.679 --> 00:54:45.400
with a group of Presbyterians got to watch them, pesky Presbyterians.

966
00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:49.360
They were from South Korea and they were in seminary,

967
00:54:49.599 --> 00:54:51.960
and it was obvious they were Christian. I mean, they

968
00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:55.159
were Christian just like us. They believe the same thing.

969
00:54:55.199 --> 00:54:57.039
They were in the same school, going to go and

970
00:54:57.079 --> 00:54:59.760
preach the same gospel. And they were hardcore Jesus people.

971
00:55:00.039 --> 00:55:02.480
And they had suffered for their faith. And they didn't

972
00:55:02.519 --> 00:55:06.559
talk about Jesus the way I did. They used different terminology,

973
00:55:06.599 --> 00:55:11.840
and I wanted to correct them. That's how arrogant I was.

974
00:55:12.280 --> 00:55:14.480
But I shut my mouth and listened, and over the

975
00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:16.480
course of I got to know them. Over the course

976
00:55:16.480 --> 00:55:19.800
of years in school together, they were the real deal.

977
00:55:21.320 --> 00:55:22.719
They just didn't talk like I was.

978
00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:26.639
Their culture was very different that Middle Eastern and Far

979
00:55:26.679 --> 00:55:27.440
Eastern culture.

980
00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:28.639
They talked different.

981
00:55:29.159 --> 00:55:30.840
And I don't even know how to explain it, but

982
00:55:30.920 --> 00:55:33.679
you know, we think like Western people. They thought like

983
00:55:33.800 --> 00:55:38.400
Eastern people, and they talked different. But they were still saved.

984
00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:43.239
You know how people get saved. They followed Jesus as savior.

985
00:55:43.360 --> 00:55:45.760
They receive Him under their heart, they confess their sins,

986
00:55:46.039 --> 00:55:47.840
they allow the Holy Spirit to cleanse them. They make

987
00:55:47.880 --> 00:55:50.920
commitments to Jesus. That's how people get saved. That's how

988
00:55:50.960 --> 00:55:54.760
everybody gets saved. By the way, they may talk about

989
00:55:54.800 --> 00:56:02.639
it different. Sometimes when you hear people talk it's an epiphany,

990
00:56:03.400 --> 00:56:06.360
a punctiliar point in time that they just knew right

991
00:56:06.519 --> 00:56:11.719
then they were saved. For other people, it's different, a

992
00:56:11.719 --> 00:56:14.280
little bit more gradual maybe. And I used to think

993
00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:17.679
that people couldn't point a time when they got saved,

994
00:56:17.679 --> 00:56:20.599
that they probably weren't saved. And you know what, I

995
00:56:20.679 --> 00:56:22.679
was wrong. I was testing them by a rule that

996
00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:26.880
some preacher had taught me. Fake news. That's not what

997
00:56:26.960 --> 00:56:30.519
the scripture say. The scriptures say you follow Jesus's savior.

998
00:56:32.559 --> 00:56:39.360
That's it. Only Jesus can change all this mess we are.

999
00:56:40.400 --> 00:56:42.280
You know, you can use self discipline and maybe get

1000
00:56:42.320 --> 00:56:44.440
your mouth under control, and that's a good thing. By

1001
00:56:44.480 --> 00:56:47.440
the way, controlling your mouth is a good thing. It's

1002
00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:54.159
a life's skill. So do that, and then in that

1003
00:56:54.280 --> 00:56:56.239
process asked Jesus to help you.

1004
00:56:56.519 --> 00:56:58.000
Jesus helped me to shut my mouth.

1005
00:56:58.559 --> 00:57:00.639
I do that often. Jesus helped me to shut my mouth.

1006
00:57:01.239 --> 00:57:03.719
Jesus helped me to avoid stupid. Jesus helped me to

1007
00:57:03.800 --> 00:57:05.440
keep my mouth shut. You know over and over and

1008
00:57:05.480 --> 00:57:08.320
over because that's one of my weaknesses, my mouth, which

1009
00:57:08.360 --> 00:57:10.320
is awkward for a preacher. Let me tell you, you know,

1010
00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:14.440
but you got to watch that how you talk represents Christ.

1011
00:57:14.960 --> 00:57:18.119
So when I talk to day care mama's about abortion

1012
00:57:18.239 --> 00:57:20.519
or something, and they do ask me, I, you know,

1013
00:57:20.559 --> 00:57:22.199
I have all these things and this is what I

1014
00:57:22.239 --> 00:57:29.679
want to say, but I want to reflect Christ. And

1015
00:57:29.719 --> 00:57:34.079
so that mitigates a lot of my passions and convictions

1016
00:57:34.119 --> 00:57:36.880
and all those kinds of things. Because people look to

1017
00:57:36.920 --> 00:57:43.320
you for Jesus on screen is a final passage of scripture.

1018
00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:46.960
Read this with me if you would, for by grace

1019
00:57:47.079 --> 00:57:50.599
you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves.

1020
00:57:51.199 --> 00:57:53.719
It is the gift of God, not as.

1021
00:57:53.519 --> 00:57:56.639
A result of works, so that no one may boast,

1022
00:57:57.320 --> 00:58:00.840
For we are as workmanship created in Christ Jesus, for

1023
00:58:01.000 --> 00:58:05.239
good works which God prepared beforehand so that we would

1024
00:58:05.320 --> 00:58:14.960
walk in them. Wrote it to everybody, Jew and gentile alike, Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian, Catholic.

1025
00:58:16.440 --> 00:58:20.840
For the Muslim, that's the choice, isn't it? For everybody?

1026
00:58:20.880 --> 00:58:21.599
That's the choice.

1027
00:58:21.639 --> 00:58:26.639
Follow Jesus, receive him as savior, trust Him to save you.

1028
00:58:27.320 --> 00:58:30.559
Base your life on biblical teachings and devotion to Jesus,

1029
00:58:32.280 --> 00:58:35.280
and begin to realize that we're all in this together.

1030
00:58:35.599 --> 00:58:39.159
This is a big boat, and we all need Jesus

1031
00:58:39.239 --> 00:58:42.079
the same way. It's going to come and lead us

1032
00:58:42.079 --> 00:58:43.800
in a hymn of imitation.

1033
00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:49.440
And there's the end. Very he dealt with some very

1034
00:58:49.519 --> 00:58:53.079
controversial subjects. You can tell people in the congregation were

1035
00:58:53.280 --> 00:58:56.920
very quiet. He probably stepped on some toes. I really

1036
00:58:56.960 --> 00:58:58.920
do appreciate he dealing with some of these. I still

1037
00:58:58.960 --> 00:59:02.840
don't quite understand structure of it. It seems that the

1038
00:59:02.880 --> 00:59:07.360
basic thesis is that the Church has put forth ideas

1039
00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:12.159
that are fake or fraudulent. I don't trying to connect

1040
00:59:12.159 --> 00:59:14.920
it to fake news. I understand he was trying to

1041
00:59:15.079 --> 00:59:19.719
use the language of popular culture because it's such an issue.

1042
00:59:19.800 --> 00:59:22.440
I didn't really understand the structure of it. But he

1043
00:59:22.599 --> 00:59:27.760
dealt with very interesting concepts that you and I, as Christians,

1044
00:59:28.000 --> 00:59:32.000
we are in this Christian world where concepts and ideas

1045
00:59:32.159 --> 00:59:36.079
are put forth that are not accurate. They are fake.

1046
00:59:36.199 --> 00:59:39.639
They're put forth as if they're accurate. They're put forth

1047
00:59:39.719 --> 00:59:42.639
as if they're true. They're put forth as if they

1048
00:59:42.639 --> 00:59:47.400
are spiritual, righteous, and godly, but in many cases they

1049
00:59:47.440 --> 00:59:52.280
are fraudulent. There are misrepresentations, there are corruptions of truth,

1050
00:59:52.639 --> 00:59:57.039
and they actually are false. If you want to refer

1051
00:59:57.079 --> 00:59:59.480
to it as fake news. Okay, fake news is such

1052
00:59:59.519 --> 01:00:01.400
a loaded that you have to look at it from

1053
01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:04.360
so many different perspectives. It kind of distracts from this.

1054
01:00:05.679 --> 01:00:09.679
He utilized Romans three, not so much as here. I mean,

1055
01:00:09.719 --> 01:00:13.039
he didn't really deal with the text. He utilized the text,

1056
01:00:13.039 --> 01:00:17.440
which okay, great, But some of those issues he brought

1057
01:00:17.480 --> 01:00:20.280
up I think are rather profound and they have to

1058
01:00:20.280 --> 01:00:24.079
be dealt with, and because they are issues within the church.

1059
01:00:25.199 --> 01:00:27.639
So it was kind of a It didn't go in

1060
01:00:27.679 --> 01:00:29.960
any direction that I thought it would go, but yet

1061
01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:32.239
it touched some of the issues. So I had to

1062
01:00:32.280 --> 01:00:36.320
address issues that really wasn't related to the overall sermon.

1063
01:00:36.800 --> 01:00:39.360
But the overall sermon did bring up issues that I

1064
01:00:39.360 --> 01:00:41.400
think we need to discuss. So I think as Christians,

1065
01:00:41.440 --> 01:00:45.400
what we have to ask ourselves is how many times

1066
01:00:45.519 --> 01:00:50.599
in your life, in my life, has these fraudulent, fague

1067
01:00:51.519 --> 01:00:56.360
corruption of biblical truth has so become a part of

1068
01:00:56.400 --> 01:01:05.800
our thinking that we have promoted it and believed it. Yeah,

1069
01:01:05.800 --> 01:01:08.840
I don't know what else to say that is, if

1070
01:01:08.880 --> 01:01:11.920
you want to look up their podcast, it's f BC.

1071
01:01:12.639 --> 01:01:17.639
I'm assuming this stands for First Baptist Church, FBC Independence Podcast,

1072
01:01:17.960 --> 01:01:21.840
FBC Independence Podcast. You should will find it on any

1073
01:01:21.880 --> 01:01:28.559
podcasting app. This is the ministry of FBC and Independence Missouri.

1074
01:01:29.719 --> 01:01:38.440
And yeah, they have Yeah, they put their sermons online

1075
01:01:38.480 --> 01:01:40.079
and you can go listen to that. I don't even

1076
01:01:40.159 --> 01:01:42.199
know how I found the church. I have no idea

1077
01:01:42.199 --> 01:01:44.480
how it came across the church. I don't even know.

1078
01:01:44.519 --> 01:01:47.159
I don't even know when I started subscribing to them.

1079
01:01:47.719 --> 01:01:50.119
But there you have it that that was the sermon

1080
01:01:50.199 --> 01:01:54.280
from Sunday that was preached yesterday. And uh, I think

1081
01:01:54.280 --> 01:01:56.440
they're gonna maybe he says he's gonna do like a

1082
01:01:56.519 --> 01:01:58.320
series on kind of some fake news. I don't I

1083
01:01:58.360 --> 01:02:01.719
don't know again, I know, you know, using fake news.

1084
01:02:02.840 --> 01:02:05.079
It just seemed like he kind of hurt himself other

1085
01:02:05.159 --> 01:02:08.519
than saying, hey, you know, we're gonna look at some

1086
01:02:08.800 --> 01:02:12.400
fraudulent or fraudulent things taught in the church, are fake

1087
01:02:12.559 --> 01:02:15.360
things taught in the church, and then say, hey, there's this.

1088
01:02:15.559 --> 01:02:17.360
I would have never even brought up fake news, I

1089
01:02:17.400 --> 01:02:19.719
don't think, only because the term is so loaded. You

1090
01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:24.119
have to go with how it's weaponized, how it's used.

1091
01:02:24.440 --> 01:02:27.559
And just so that we note here at the beginning

1092
01:02:27.599 --> 01:02:29.239
of this, when you talked about fake news, He's like,

1093
01:02:29.280 --> 01:02:32.199
you basically can't believe anything you hear. You can't basically

1094
01:02:32.239 --> 01:02:35.360
believe anything you read. But did you notice that in

1095
01:02:35.440 --> 01:02:38.320
the sermon he made a reference to well, all the

1096
01:02:38.360 --> 01:02:43.519
information he found out about study about us Sugar versus Fat? Well,

1097
01:02:43.719 --> 01:02:46.559
what source did you get that from? You're believing a

1098
01:02:46.599 --> 01:02:49.920
source he talked about a book about nineteen twenty seven. Well,

1099
01:02:50.239 --> 01:02:52.800
how do you if you can't we can't trust anything,

1100
01:02:53.039 --> 01:02:55.760
then how did you trust the information you got about

1101
01:02:55.800 --> 01:03:00.039
the Sugar Association and what they did about Blaze, I

1102
01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:02.960
mean fat versus Sugar? And then how did you believe

1103
01:03:03.000 --> 01:03:06.000
the book in nineteen twenty seven? See, whenever people say

1104
01:03:06.119 --> 01:03:08.679
you can't believe anything, it's all fake, Isn't it amazing?

1105
01:03:08.679 --> 01:03:12.599
They always then reference things that they supposedly can believe. So, yeah,

1106
01:03:12.599 --> 01:03:14.760
that's kind of a contradiction in the sermon in and

1107
01:03:14.800 --> 01:03:16.719
of itself. But SA that's why she had never brought

1108
01:03:16.800 --> 01:03:20.119
up fake news. What he should have done is said

1109
01:03:20.159 --> 01:03:23.599
in Romans chapter three, we have an example of where

1110
01:03:23.639 --> 01:03:26.440
there was a fraudulent way of thinking that it entered

1111
01:03:26.480 --> 01:03:28.840
into that was in the minds of the people of

1112
01:03:28.880 --> 01:03:32.440
the Roman Church. The Jews in the church thought that

1113
01:03:32.559 --> 01:03:36.119
Gentiles basically didn't belong. This was a fraudulent way to think.

1114
01:03:36.159 --> 01:03:40.599
This was a corruption of the Gospel message. But they're

1115
01:03:40.639 --> 01:03:45.519
not unique. Here are some of the fraudulent ways we think.

1116
01:03:47.159 --> 01:03:49.760
And then he could gone through the things he listed

1117
01:03:52.400 --> 01:03:54.519
that would be how I would structure it. But that's

1118
01:03:54.599 --> 01:03:58.119
just a structural argument. That's just to me. The fake

1119
01:03:58.159 --> 01:04:01.239
news did more distracting me from what he was trying

1120
01:04:01.280 --> 01:04:03.719
to do. Or he could have just started with, hey,

1121
01:04:03.719 --> 01:04:06.679
here's Romans three. Now, what's going on here, here's what's

1122
01:04:06.719 --> 01:04:08.719
going on now. We're going to utilize this to look

1123
01:04:08.719 --> 01:04:12.159
at how these wrong ideas are present in the church today.

1124
01:04:12.360 --> 01:04:14.840
And I have four of them or five of them,

1125
01:04:14.840 --> 01:04:19.920
I can't remember how many he gave. Now, if someone,

1126
01:04:20.119 --> 01:04:23.679
if someone wants to go structure it, to structure your

1127
01:04:23.719 --> 01:04:27.559
notes that way, then I think that would be beneficial.

1128
01:04:27.679 --> 01:04:33.199
But there you have it. Hopefully that was beneficial. Yeah, well,

1129
01:04:33.320 --> 01:04:36.440
if we can do something with this, we will if

1130
01:04:36.440 --> 01:04:38.920
we can. Again, whenever I can, I mean I pretty

1131
01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:41.800
much agree with everything he said. I just don't like

1132
01:04:41.840 --> 01:04:44.360
the way he handled the fake news thing. Pretty much.

1133
01:04:44.400 --> 01:04:47.440
We were a massive agreement there so, which is awesome.

1134
01:04:47.880 --> 01:04:50.880
But now, even though whether I agree or whether I criticize,

1135
01:04:50.880 --> 01:04:52.400
I always want to take a sermon and then do

1136
01:04:52.480 --> 01:04:54.320
something with it. So I'm going to see what I

1137
01:04:54.360 --> 01:04:57.000
can do with it, and we'll just see. But thank

1138
01:04:57.000 --> 01:05:02.239
you for listening. Everyone, have a great day. God bless