Dec. 11, 2024

Daniel 9:24

Daniel 9:24

I review a sermon on Daniel 9:24

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I review a sermon on Daniel 9:24

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Looking at our world from a theological perspective.

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This is the Theology Central podcast making Theology Central.

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Good afternoon everyone.

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It is Wednesday, December the eleventh, twenty twenty four. It

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is currently twelve six pm Central Time, and I am

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coming to you live from the Theology Central studio located right.

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Here in Abilene, Texas. It is hard to believe, at least.

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For me, that it's basically been a year since we

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started the entire Sermons two point zero app challenge, Right.

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It's been basically, I mean it's been a little bit.

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I mean we're getting close, we're almost it's not quite

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a year. I think it was like I would have

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to go back and look at the very first message

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I started mentioning it, but it was in December of

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twenty twenty three. Now we're in December the eleventh, twenty

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twenty four, so we're fast approaching a year since we

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started the Sermons two point oh app sermon challenge, right,

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And it's crazy to just think that it's already been

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almost a year. And if you go back and listen

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to some of those messages of December twenty twenty.

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Three, I didn't even really know if the.

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Broadcast would still be going. So it's been it's kind

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of been an interesting my perception, my feelings about how

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twenty twenty four was going to go. There were some

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things correct about it, right because I did feel that

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it was kind of bringing the church was going to

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come to an end. That hasn't really happened, but in

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many ways it feels.

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Like it it has.

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It's hard to I mean, I don't want to get

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into a long story about all of that, so we're

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kind of just wait. It's kind of like just a

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feeling like we're just waiting. We're just kind of waiting

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and how that's all going to play out?

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Then?

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How is that going to impact the future of the podcast?

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Like there's so many questions and I don't have any

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answers for any of it. So it's kind of it's

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like I thought all of these big things were going

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to happen, and we get to the end of twenty

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twenty four and well, we're kind of still waiting for

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those big things to happen. Those big things will happen

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at some point, it just is taking much longer. But hey,

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here we are, and all we can do is continue

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to move forward and the one thing that I want

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to try to accomplish.

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The one thing I want to try to.

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Accomplish is do my very best to bring the Sermon's

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two point oh app sermon challenge to some kind of.

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Conclusion. Not me.

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That doesn't mean, oh, we're not going to do anything

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like that in twenty twenty five. I'm not saying that,

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but just I mean, we set aside a year to

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do this. Everyone has their thoughts and their mean opinions

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about whether they fill this was successful, whether they liked it,

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whether they disliked it. But I know we've had a

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lot of interesting conversation and discussions. This is the one

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thing I was not prepared for when I came up

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with the idea, right, because I had it kind of

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planned differently. Right.

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I wanted to.

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Use the sermons two point oh app sermon challenge really

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in conjunction and connection with something else we were going

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to try to do. Right, And you can go back

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and listen to the end of the last year in

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the beginning of this year, and you can kind of

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see there was really these two ideas that we're going

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to kind of work together, and ultimately what happened is

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the Sermons two point oh app really just kind of

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took over and really started driving everything, driving what I

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was preaching, driving what I was doing on the podcast.

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It really just kind of took over and drove everything.

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And you know, if you think about it, logically, I

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should have seen that coming, right. I mean, if you're

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going to be taking the sermon's two point oh app

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and listening to sermon after sermon after sermon after sermon

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after sermon after sermon after sermon, right, keeping track, writing

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it down, writing a summary of each sermon, there is

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no I mean, I don't think if you're gonna even

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be remotely realistic, there's no way that's not going to

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take over and drive everything else because you're listening. At

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least for me, I'm listening to this sermon, listening to

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this sermon. Those sermons then are going to lead to

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further study, further consideration for their discussion.

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It's just it just kind of took over.

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So in some ways, that's kind of fascinating, right that

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if I just listen to sermons, those sermons then ultimately

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lead to all of these other things that we talk

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about and study and these in depth studies, which it's

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kind of in some ways, if you think about it,

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that's kind of awesome, right that you've got this tool,

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the Sermons two point oh app, And if you'll just

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listen and then allow that listening to lead you into

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further study, further consideration, further meditation, further research, then you

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gain You're getting a lot more from that app than

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just listening to a sermon. Right, you can listen to

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a sermon and just be done, or you can listen

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to a sermon and consider it even if you disagree

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with it. The disagreement actually can do more of the

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driving you than if you agree, because if you disagree,

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it drives you to the text, it drives you to

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further research, it drives you to further study. So in

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some ways, the Sermon's two point zero app kind of

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just took over. It took over what I was doing

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from the pulpit, took over what I'm doing behind the microphone,

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and I guess I should be I guess I could

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see it as a negative thing. And there's been obviously

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some twists and turns this year where at times you've

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heard my frustration and my just almost exhaustion and just

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want to like what in the world, But in another way,

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if those sermons has led to all of these discussions

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and all of these hours of study.

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Well then.

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Maybe I should do that, right, Maybe I should see

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it as a good thing. It all depends, It all

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depends maybe on the hour of the day how I

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am feeling. Sometimes you just like what is going on?

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Like what is happening in these sermons? Like it's like

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last night, you know, listening to a sermon that basically

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mocks the so called you know, scholars, mocks people who

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basically writes big books kind of just you know, hey,

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all of those people who supposedly know all of this stuff,

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they don't really know anything because it's really not that complicated.

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And then within the same sermon goes and completely misuses

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the term immaculate conception, miss applies it completely, just makes

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categorical philological mistakes. And I mean that's frustrating, right, I

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mean that's maddening, Like why is that happening?

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But at the same time, what did it lead to?

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It led to us doing a discussion about the immaculate conception,

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offering that clarification, So that one thing led I mean

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I could have I could do more work on it

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even today, So and then if you go back Psaw

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eighty three, the whole Isaiah forty through fifty five, so

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many things. So I'm I don't know how it worked

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for you, because for you, it just may have been

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listened to a sermon, right, summarize it and just move on.

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It may not have led to hours of discussion and

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thinking and meditation. But I think if we look back

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over this year, it was it was somewhat was a

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simple idea, right, And if I'm being honest, a lot

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of it was more like, well, by doing the sermons

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two point oh app sermon challenge, then if even if

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I don't broadcast, even if I go five days and

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don't do a program, everyone knows, oh, grab the sermon's

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two point oh app listen to a random sermon. They've

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got plenty to do. That will keep them busy, that

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will keep them engaged, even if I'm not producing content.

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So there was a little bit of, hey, this is

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great for me.

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But at the same so there was a little bit

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of that at the same time, I was not necessarily

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prepared how much it was going to drive me. So

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I don't know, I don't know how you feel about it,

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but it really became as I'm looking back, and I'm

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going to do a lot of probably reflecting on this

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throughout the rest of this year.

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I mean, it's December the eleventh. I mean, we're just

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going to be talking a lot about it. I've got

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lots of mixed feelings.

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I still haven't necessarily processed it, because it's just shocking

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that we're already kind of at the end. I mean,

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it really feels like it was a couple of weeks ago,

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but it's been a year. It's been a year, and

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it's just been open up an apple, listen to a sermon,

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Open up an apple, listen to a sermon, Open up

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an apple, listen to a sermon.

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And you never know exactly what's going to happen when

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you listen.

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But I think the one constant is the listening has

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then guided and directed all of my talking. The listening

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has guided the talking, but all of my talking into

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this microphone has really been directed, guided, motivated everything by

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the listening of the sermons. And I think that, I

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guess that's a good thing. It may be it may

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have led to my friend, like I could not necessarily

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prepared myself for how it impacted me. Emotionally intellectually, right.

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I don't know if I could have foreseen that, but

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I should have been able to foresee.

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I should have been able to see.

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Hey, this is going to probably be more controlling than

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you are thinking. I probably should have seen. Hey, guys,

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let's just not worry about anything else. This is going

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to consume us, or at least it's going to consume me.

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So it's been an interesting journey. I don't know how

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you feel about it.

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I don't even know. Some of you participated a little bit.

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Some of you probably didn't even participate at all.

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And if you.

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Didn't participate, I feel like you kind of missed out

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on a pretty interesting experiment. Right. So, what we've taken

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an app that's a great resource. Whether you like the content,

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dislike the content, become very discouraged by the content, you

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can't deny that the content has led to hours and

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hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and

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hours of philological discussion. And I think for that it's

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been I hope it's been positive.

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But we've got to bring this to some kind of conclusion.

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And I don't really know if there's any I mean,

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I think think all we can do is just keep

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reviewing sermons and just bring it to.

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Just end it.

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I don't think there's any dramatic way to do this, right,

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So are you ready?

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We're going to review another sermon. Now. I ended up

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on this one, and let me just explain. It was

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a wild ride. This morning. I was like, okay, so

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what do I do? What do I do?

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At first, I thought, well, last night we did the

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immaculate conception. I probably could start looking for some sermons

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about quote unquote Christmas, the virgin birth and all of

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all of those types of things, and probably find some

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other sermons that use, misuse misuses the term immaculate conception.

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So I started listening to a few of them. Some

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of them they they didn't necessarily use the term immaculate conception,

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but they really weren't doing a lot, right. They weren't

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even doing a lot. There wasn't a lot there. Some

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of them were kind of hard to even follow. So

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I was like, well, okay, do I Eve, do I

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want to you know, belabor that point? Do I kind

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of want to beat that dead horse. I'm like, well,

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let me look for something else. Then I found a

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sermon said like ten words, ten commands something like that,

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and I'm like, oh, this could get us to maybe

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this is going to be about Exodus twenty, about the

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Ten Commandments. Maybe I could use this. Maybe this will

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be discussion about law and gospel. All right, Okay, we

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haven't dealt with that in a while. Okay, let me

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listen to it. So I started listening. And the only

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reason I started listening typically I just downloaded, is when

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I looked at the file. Like when I looked at

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and hey, the.

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Church should be a Bible college and Okay, let's sing another.

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there was no sermon. So I'm glad I listened to that,

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because that would have been a disaster if I would

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have just downloaded it and started reviewing. So I was like, man,

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so what do I do?

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Then all of a sudden I came.

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Across a message entitled I have it right here. I

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have a message entitled let me find it here. I

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got nine hundred things open. Six reasons why Daniel nine

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twenty four is not for the church exclamation point six

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reasons why Daniel nine twenty four is not for the church.

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And I'm like, ooh ooh, this could be interesting. This

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could be very interesting. So I downloaded it. Now I

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made a mistake here right Well, I don't know if

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I haven't listened to any of it. I'm just going

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to go with the idea they have to do it.

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I did hit play just to hear the volume, and

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it starts kind of weird. I don't know why they

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have this sound effect at the beginning. You tell me

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what you think about the sound effect at the beginning,

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and hopefully the volume is loud enough. One of the

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reasons I chose it, it's only thirty seven minutes. So

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that means even if we only review fifteen or twenty

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minutes of the audio, if that's all we do, you

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still got most of the sermon, right, So I think

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that that's I mean, because usually the last three or

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you basically have about a thirty minute sermon. And so

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if we get through fifteen twenty minutes of it, even

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if I don't finish it, I don't feel like, well,

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you know, I didn't help you very much.

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This way, you still get most of it.

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And of course it deals with a lot of things

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related to eschatology, which we still got to finish that series,

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It deals with a lot of things we've discussed.

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How people will go to the Old Testament and apply

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things to the Church when I think it should be

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applied to Israel.

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So this fits with a.

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Lot of the discussions we've had throughout this year. So

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I'm like, Okay, this sounds good, and this is going

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with the idea. Hey, Daniel, nine twenty four is not

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for the church and here are six reasons.

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Well, I definitely want to hear these six reasons.

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It gives us six specific things that makes it easy

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to review.

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All right, So this just seems perfect.

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So we'll just add this to another sermon that we

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have reviewed as part of our Sermon's two point zero

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Apps Sermon Challenge. And I think that's the only way

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to kind of we'll do some discussion about our feelings

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about the whole year. Maybe my feelings are going to change.

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You're gonna hear probably different perspectives because I think I've

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had probably twenty different perspectives of about the entire thing

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as the year has progressed. And I think my attitude

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is probably gonna change even more as we get closer

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to the end of this year. But are you ready?

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Here we go, ladies and gentlemen. Let's see how far

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we can get. I know, I spent now sixteen minutes. Yeah,

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but now I'm gonna sit there and kick myself going, man,

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the intro was too long. But at the same time,

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we've got to discuss some of these things. I've got

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to at least, I mean, if we're we've got to

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reflect back a little bit over it.

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Right, So I don't know.

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I'll probably be now mad at myself for doing it

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that way.

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But are you ready?

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Let's at least jump in and see what we're going

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to find. As always, we never know where we're going.

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We don't ever know where we're gonna end up.

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That kind of makes this fun.

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Bible's open, Daniel nine twenty four, pencils in hand, notebooks open.

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Let's see what.

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Happens Daniel, chapter nine, and we're gonna be looking at

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verse twenty four.

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Okay, we have to stop right there. What is that

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sound effect? Why do they begin the sermon with this sound? Listen?

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This is a sermon, So why did they start the

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sermon this way?

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Listen again, Daniel, chapter nine, and we're gonna be looking

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at verse twenty four?

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What is that?

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And if you hear the little like jump there that

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the sound was added in, so you have the sermon.

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They came in, added the sound. You hear the little jump,

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you can tell where the edit was, right.

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They added the file.

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And it's not a smooth transition, right, It's not like

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here's the file and it goes ding right into the sermon. No, No,

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he goes din like like almost a jump and then

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it goes into the sermon.

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Well, clearly that was added to it.

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Why is that like a boxing it's like a boxing bell,

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right like or like a wrestling ring, a wrestling bell

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that you know the timekeeper.

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Keeps ding ding ding ding ding, you know when when

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the match is over?

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Is this like a boxing bell that announces the beginning

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of the next round?

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Did I say boxing ring? Okay? Boxing bell? Listen to it.

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Again, Daniel, Chapter nine.

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What I don't know what that's supposed to signify? Is

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it like ding ding ding ding ding?

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This is the beginning of the match. Maybe this is

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the is it? Is it announcing the beginning of the round?

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I don't know.

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It's if it was like the end of a wrestling match,

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it'll be like ding ding ding ding, or even the

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end of a boxing Matt, I don't know.

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What this is. One more time, one more time, you

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tell me, what do you think?

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Like?

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Why is this here? Here we go.

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Daniel, Chapter nine, and we're gonna be looking at verse

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twenty four.

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Or I have no idea. I have no idea. I

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have no idea. I guess it's interesting.

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I just wish I understood why it was there but okay,

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I'm just gonna find some random sound to play before

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all of my messages.

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That's what I'm going to do.

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I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna use maybe if I

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use you see, I'm gonna play some sounds. Tell me

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if these work? Should I use this?

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Yeah, yeah, that's supposed to be like a camera.

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I don't know what and I don't even know if

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that's gonna work. How about if I use this the

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coming storm sermon review time?

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Dude? Do I do that? How about this class is

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in session? Do I do that? How about this? That

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could be You're over dramatic? Right? That could be my you?

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You because I do get accused you're so over dramatic.

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It's fake.

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I mean, and I got accused of being fake, which

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just drives me crazy.

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Like you don't even know me.

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You don't even if you know how I talk about anything,

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you would know I'm not being over dramatic.

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So maybe maybe that should be the sound? Right, let

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me do it again? What do you think? Do you

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like that one?

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How about this one that reminds me like the truth

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is out there?

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The X Files.

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I'm I'm your host, Molder agent molder. I'm here to

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find the truth. Do I go with an X Files theme?

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And twenty twenty five? How about this one? I'm your

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detective seeking out the mysteries inside your bible?

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How about I go with that? What about this? Thank you,

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thank you, thank you. I'll be here all day. How

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about what about this.

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America's number one podcaster is here, thank you, thank you.

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How about maybe maybe we go with a little bit

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more of this.

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That's just people that Hi.

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Do we just pick rat? I don't do I pick

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a random sound? I know, I know I'm being like,

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I'm really taking this too far. I know, and I'm

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wasting lots of time, But I don't get what this.

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Is Daniel, chapter nine, and we're going to be looking

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at verse twenty four.

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That's just so random, my good But all right, Daniel

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nine twenty four. Focus, ladies and gentlemen, focus, all right, focus,

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all right, here we go Daniel nine twenty four.

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There are six things listed in Daniel nine in verse

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twenty four that have to do just by a way

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of review, that have to do with Daniel's people. And

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we know that because Daniel nine twenty four starts off

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seventy weeks are determined upon thy people, and we talked

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about that last week. And then it says we know

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that this is a Jewish thing because it says then

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and upon thy holy city, and that holy city is Jerusalem.

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here's the question. See if one of the young people

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can answer, is the church in view? Or is national

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Israel in view? Which one of the young people has

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the answer national Israel? That makes sense?

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Wow, I feel like I'm listening to myself a little bit.

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I do feel like I'm listening to myself. He focused

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out seventy weeks are determined upon thy people, and he's like, well,

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thy people in this context would not be the church

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and upon thy holy city that this is Israel, And

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then he asks the young people. I love that, and

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someone it sounds like a teenage girl answered.

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The question just like that, Just like that, all right?

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Why do I love pointing that out?

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Because I get sick and tired of churches treating young

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people like they're too dumb to be able to grasp

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and answer and understand theology. So you got to get

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them out of the sanctuary and put them in some

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classroom somewhere with some pizza and play some games and

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and I don't know, just do some ridiculous stuff. Young

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people can understand this stuff. Stop stop treating them like

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they're incapable. They're more than capable, right.

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So I love So this is awesome.

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So already I feel like, oh man, we're we're on

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the same page here, because I love to ask young people.

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If I've got young people.

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Present, I tend to I would like to ask them

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questions more sometimes than the older people, because in many

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cases young younger.

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People, I think.

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They retain far more than people give them credit for retaining,

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is what I I at least that's my belief. So

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so this is this is right up my alley of

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fact ef fact. In some way, I feel like I'm

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listening to myself. Okay, let's see where this is going

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to go.

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Because as the Church, we aren't Israel, and so therefore

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we can't be called Daniel's people. Hey, Daniel's people would

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be Jewish people. And then we looked at these six

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things that are listed that still have to come to pass.

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Okay, So he separates Israel in the church. The church

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is not Israel. Israel's not the church Okay, you know,

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I strongly believe that. I think the mixing of that.

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You didn't have to just start spiritual. Land isn't land,

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Israel isn't Israel. And once you start down that path hermeneutically,

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I don't know where you end up, ladies and gentlemen,

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because if Israel isn't Israel, land isn't land, this problem,

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I mean, then where do you stop? Well, then Virgin

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isn't virgin, you know, like you just start going through

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everything and the Old Testament going well, this isn't this

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and this isn't that.

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And they'll say, well, no, no, no, you can't do that.

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But you said land isn't land, Israel isn't Israel, Jerusalem

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isn't Jerusalem.

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And so it just to me you have to do that.

478
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And it's not even about oh you were a disp

479
00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:01.559
socialist or oh you or that.

480
00:26:01.640 --> 00:26:03.839
It's not even about putting me in a category.

481
00:26:04.119 --> 00:26:06.599
It's about what's the best way to handle the text

482
00:26:06.799 --> 00:26:09.559
so that I can have some hermeneutical.

483
00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:10.880
Consistency to someone.

484
00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:14.119
No one is ever fully consistent because I think the

485
00:26:14.200 --> 00:26:19.160
text itself, the Bible itself, because you have different genres,

486
00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:24.759
different literary styles different purposes. There's no easy way to

487
00:26:24.839 --> 00:26:27.960
be consistent in your hermineutic, but I think you have

488
00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:30.519
to at least strive to be that, And I am

489
00:26:31.599 --> 00:26:35.559
who cares if striving to be consistent puts you in

490
00:26:35.680 --> 00:26:39.920
conflict with anyone's theological team, That's the thing.

491
00:26:40.200 --> 00:26:40.759
You should be.

492
00:26:40.720 --> 00:26:47.039
More worried about hermonutical consistency. You know, legitimate hermeneutical principles,

493
00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:50.920
And who cares if that puts you at odds with

494
00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:53.920
the reformed people? Who cares if that puts you in

495
00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:55.759
conflict with the non reformed people.

496
00:26:56.319 --> 00:26:57.400
I don't care.

497
00:26:57.680 --> 00:26:59.759
I don't care if it offends your team. I don't

498
00:26:59.799 --> 00:27:04.559
care it offends your theology. I'm not bound by your team.

499
00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:07.559
I don't have to play your reindeer games. I don't

500
00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:10.160
have to wear your colors. I don't have to represent

501
00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:12.440
any No. I should care about.

502
00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:14.720
The text, and that that's really a part of the

503
00:27:14.759 --> 00:27:22.640
whole Protestant right tradition is scripture above philological team, scripture

504
00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:26.119
above church loyalty, scripture above.

505
00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:29.680
Any of this. But as soon as you really try

506
00:27:29.720 --> 00:27:32.640
to put that into practice, everyone gets ticked off at you. Right,

507
00:27:32.799 --> 00:27:35.440
the charismatics get ticked off it you the non Charismatics

508
00:27:35.440 --> 00:27:37.599
get ticked off at you. The Baptist gets ticked off

509
00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:39.680
at you, the Presbyterians get ticked off at you, the

510
00:27:39.759 --> 00:27:42.559
Lutheran everyone will get ticked off at you. Because the

511
00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:45.200
way it's supposed to work is just supposed to take

512
00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:50.640
your Bible and interpret it according to whichever theological team

513
00:27:50.960 --> 00:27:54.000
you want to find favor with. I mean, you've got

514
00:27:54.039 --> 00:27:58.119
to remain consistent with that or you won't have a team.

515
00:27:58.200 --> 00:27:59.160
And if you don't have a.

516
00:27:59.119 --> 00:28:02.359
Team, well guess what, you're not going to be invited

517
00:28:02.440 --> 00:28:05.160
to conferences and you're not going to be popular because

518
00:28:05.160 --> 00:28:06.799
you're going to be ticking off to me if people

519
00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:12.119
just want to hear preachers who agree with their theological team.

520
00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:14.000
So it's not about so in.

521
00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:17.160
This case, he's obviously representing a piological team. You can

522
00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:19.240
hear almost basically this is going to go with a

523
00:28:19.279 --> 00:28:21.720
dispensational idea. I think you can pretty much see where

524
00:28:21.720 --> 00:28:24.359
this is going. But you know what, I don't care

525
00:28:24.400 --> 00:28:26.160
if it goes with which I don't care when I

526
00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:28.119
listen to a sermon which team it represents.

527
00:28:28.240 --> 00:28:29.839
I just want to know is it true to the text.

528
00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:31.680
Well, I think if you look at Daniel nine twenty four,

529
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and you look at the context, I think thy people

530
00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:39.519
and the Holy City. I think that's going to reference Israel.

531
00:28:39.799 --> 00:28:42.440
I don't see how you can get around that. Now

532
00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:45.119
he says, there are six things mentioned in Daniel nine

533
00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:48.240
twenty four. All right, I think you should probably try

534
00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:50.680
to write those down. You can go ahead and start.

535
00:28:51.079 --> 00:28:53.319
And then I'm assuming he's going to list.

536
00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:54.519
The six things.

537
00:28:54.799 --> 00:28:57.519
And it sounds like the six things are not for

538
00:28:57.599 --> 00:29:00.599
the church, there for Israel. And it's sounded like he

539
00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:04.160
said the six things have not come to pass as

540
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of yet.

541
00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:06.920
Now I don't know if he means they had not.

542
00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:10.519
Come to pass as of the time of Daniel, or

543
00:29:10.519 --> 00:29:13.440
they haven't come to pass even for us. Now I'm

544
00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:15.160
assuming he'll offer clarification.

545
00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:16.200
Here we go.

546
00:29:18.599 --> 00:29:23.200
Prophetically for a nation, not an individual now, but for

547
00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:27.160
a nation in the future. And the first thing, let's

548
00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:31.640
see if we can have Wilder find the first thing

549
00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:34.000
listed in Daniel nine twenty four.

550
00:29:34.039 --> 00:29:35.519
We talked about it's for thy.

551
00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:38.519
People and thy Holy City and what comes after thy

552
00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:47.640
Holy City? To finish what to finish the transgression?

553
00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:54.079
Now, man, he's talking, is this a Sunday school class

554
00:29:54.079 --> 00:29:58.920
for kids? If it is. This is pretty awesome he's

555
00:29:58.960 --> 00:30:02.640
going after this. That sounded like a young kid who said,

556
00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:04.400
finish the transgression.

557
00:30:05.359 --> 00:30:07.240
I means you can go deep with care. I know,

558
00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:09.920
I know you're not so fut. No kids can understand this.

559
00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:13.480
They need they need puppets, they need they need I

560
00:30:13.519 --> 00:30:16.000
don't know, they need veggietails. I know this is all

561
00:30:16.079 --> 00:30:19.599
dated stuff, but they need fun food and activity. We

562
00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:22.039
can't go too do this. The kid figured out, Hey,

563
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:24.759
the next thing that comes was finish the transgression. He's

564
00:30:24.759 --> 00:30:26.319
got to be paying attention. He's got to have a

565
00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:29.359
Bible open right to know what's coming next. Right, So

566
00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:34.079
all right, so that's just interesting. He's asking the young people.

567
00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:36.839
He's engaging the young people. I really like this. This

568
00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:39.720
is a cool concept, pastors. You can talk to the

569
00:30:39.759 --> 00:30:42.920
young people. They're not incapable a right, So all right,

570
00:30:43.160 --> 00:30:46.519
So the first thing is finish the transgression. Now it

571
00:30:46.519 --> 00:30:49.480
sounds like he's saying, this is prophetic to something that's

572
00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:52.640
not yet occurred, and it's not for an individual, it's

573
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for Israel.

574
00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:56.559
Right now. Whether we agree or disagree with this, we

575
00:30:56.640 --> 00:30:57.519
will have to see.

576
00:30:57.759 --> 00:30:59.920
But this is the direction he's going. So the first

577
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:03.359
one would be finished the transgression. Right, Let's see where

578
00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:04.759
he goes with next.

579
00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:10.160
We can't apply that to us as the church, because

580
00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:14.920
Jesus said on the cross in John nineteen, he said,

581
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:19.519
it is what it is finished. So it couldn't be

582
00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:24.440
for the church because as far as we know, and

583
00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:27.079
by the way, you can know that, you know that

584
00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:33.200
you know your transgressions have been finished. It is finished.

585
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:38.000
Jesus settled it on the cross. So this couldn't possibly

586
00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:41.839
be for you and Daniel nine because you would be saying,

587
00:31:42.079 --> 00:31:46.480
or we would be saying that either a our soul

588
00:31:46.599 --> 00:31:52.119
really isn't saved, something else has to happen, or b

589
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:57.119
we could possibly lose our salvation, which if we're sealed

590
00:31:57.200 --> 00:31:59.640
unto the day of redemption, we can't lose our salvation.

591
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:02.880
So we understand that, and I think that's where we

592
00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:03.599
left off.

593
00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:12.000
So okay, so let me just pose the question here.

594
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Could finish the transgression be pointing to what Christ will

595
00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:23.880
do even for us? But the issue is, though seventy

596
00:32:23.920 --> 00:32:27.160
weeks are determined upon Thy people and upon the Holy City,

597
00:32:27.799 --> 00:32:30.960
well that seems to be a reference towards Israel. So

598
00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:35.599
does finish the transgression if it's related to Israel. Does

599
00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:39.400
that mean did Jesus finish the transgression of his people

600
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:44.759
on the cross or is this finishing the transgression in

601
00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:49.920
some other way? In some other way, does.

602
00:32:49.759 --> 00:32:50.839
This remind you.

603
00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:56.519
I'm not saying, I'm not saying it's connected. I'm not

604
00:32:56.559 --> 00:33:00.200
saying it's connected. So just stay with me here. This

605
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:03.559
seem like for she hath received of the Lord's hand

606
00:33:03.640 --> 00:33:09.880
double for all her sins, that her warfare is accomplished

607
00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:18.920
and her iniquity is pardoned. That's Isaiah forty verse two,

608
00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:26.680
finish the transgression. This is interesting, Okay, so he's applying

609
00:33:26.759 --> 00:33:30.559
it to Israel. He says, it's not referencing what Christ

610
00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:33.559
did on the cross for us. This is referencing something

611
00:33:33.599 --> 00:33:35.839
for Israel. And it seems to be saying that it's

612
00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:38.720
something that hasn't occurred even as of now.

613
00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:42.200
All right, let's okay, I'm just following this. I'm just

614
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:43.240
throwing out ideas.

615
00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:48.480
Remember I'm reviewing in real time, right so we I

616
00:33:48.519 --> 00:33:52.039
have a feeling this may lead to some interesting conversations

617
00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:55.440
somewhere down there. Once again, the podcast may be doing

618
00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:57.920
the driving over the next who knows how long. Let's see,

619
00:33:57.960 --> 00:33:58.920
let's see where this goes.

620
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:09.159
As an individual, our transgressions individually, after we've trusted Christ

621
00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:13.519
are finished, they're dealt with, they're paid for as an individual.

622
00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:18.440
But in Daniel chapter nine, verse twenty four, there's a

623
00:34:18.719 --> 00:34:26.039
national scope in view, and national Israel's transgressions have not

624
00:34:26.679 --> 00:34:33.000
been completed. There's still something left that has to happen nationally.

625
00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:37.280
This is why when we went through Romans nine ten eleven,

626
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:41.360
we saw how Israel has been set aside for a time,

627
00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:45.000
but there is going to come a time when Jesus

628
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:47.920
is going to go back and deal with them. But

629
00:34:48.119 --> 00:34:59.880
right now, it's an individual plan rather than what Hannah

630
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:04.760
individual salvation for everyone now, rather than what's going to

631
00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:09.800
come into view when Daniel's seventieth week comes to pass.

632
00:35:11.199 --> 00:35:14.639
That's right, a national cleansing will.

633
00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:21.079
Happen, he asked another young person. Another young person understood

634
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:23.480
that referring to a national cleansing, so I had to

635
00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:24.960
just I'm just doing a little bit of work in

636
00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:29.840
real time, and I'm utilizing Ai here. Ai says. The

637
00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:32.440
phrase to finish the transgression is part of a prophecy

638
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:36.239
given to Daniel about the future of is ry L

639
00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:40.440
Israel and its people. This prophecy outlines a period of

640
00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:43.599
seventy weeks, understood by many scholars as four hundred and

641
00:35:43.639 --> 00:35:48.599
ninety years, during which God will accomplish his purpose concerning sin, righteousness,

642
00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:52.320
and the ultimate redemption of his people, which is Israel,

643
00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:58.559
all right. The interpretation of finish the transgression Israel specific rebellion.

644
00:35:58.599 --> 00:36:00.480
Many interpreters see this as a refer as to the

645
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:04.760
culmination of Israel's ongoing rebellion against God. Throughout the Old Testament,

646
00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:09.719
Israel is repeatedly described as transgressing God's law, breaking the covenant,

647
00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:13.159
and turning to idolatry. To finish the transgression could mean

648
00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:17.559
bringing Israel's covenantal disobedience to an end, either through judgment

649
00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:22.480
or redemption. So we could refer to finish the transgression,

650
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:29.239
in other words, through judgment or finish the transgression somehow,

651
00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:33.320
meaning to bring their art by redeeming them. Now, if

652
00:36:33.400 --> 00:36:39.199
we understand that Israel's been set aside, Israel's been set aside,

653
00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:42.079
This is Romans so that the gentiles can be brought in,

654
00:36:42.239 --> 00:36:45.320
and then God will return back to Israel, and then

655
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:49.000
we'll save them. Is the saving of Israel later on?

656
00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:54.960
Is that the finishing the finish the finishing of the transgression,

657
00:36:57.400 --> 00:37:01.719
maybe what we'll have to see. Some understand now the

658
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:05.559
transgression here as a broader theological sense, referring to humanity

659
00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:08.280
sin against God, and this view to finish the transgression

660
00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:10.960
points to the work of the Messiah Jesus Christ, who

661
00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:14.039
would bear the sins of humanity and provide atonement, thus

662
00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:17.280
dealing decisively with sin and rebellion. Now the only problem

663
00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:21.159
with that is the text literally says seventy weeks are

664
00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:25.920
determined upon Thy people, so that I don't think that.

665
00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:27.679
Works here all right.

666
00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:33.159
Another perspective connects this phrase with the end time, suggesting

667
00:37:33.159 --> 00:37:35.719
this refers to the final judgment on sin and rebellion

668
00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:39.360
against God, and this view to finish the transgression signifies

669
00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:42.519
the moment when sin and rebellion are fully eradicated at

670
00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:44.519
the end of human history.

671
00:37:44.760 --> 00:37:45.800
So some will.

672
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:49.159
Take this finish the transgression as basically the end of

673
00:37:49.199 --> 00:37:50.440
everything in glorification.

674
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:52.239
But again it says.

675
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:57.280
Determined upon Thy people and upon thy Holy city.

676
00:37:58.519 --> 00:37:59.880
I still think it has to be Israel.

677
00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:04.519
Some interpret the phrase as referring to a future time

678
00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:08.320
when Israel we're recognized and turned back to God, bringing

679
00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:11.360
an end to their rejection of him and his covenant.

680
00:38:11.360 --> 00:38:12.079
This aligns with.

681
00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:15.639
Other prophetic passages such as Zechariah twelve to ten, where

682
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:19.760
Israel mourns for the Messiah. They have pierced symbolizing repentance

683
00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:27.280
and restoration. So so yeah, that seems to be it's

684
00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:29.880
got to be Israel. It's got to be Israel. However

685
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:32.320
it plays out, it has to be Israel. And I

686
00:38:32.360 --> 00:38:35.920
think we can agree that the finishing of the transgression

687
00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:40.920
for Israel has not occurred even as of December the eleventh,

688
00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:43.639
twenty twenty four, so it has to be possibly pointing

689
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:44.800
to something future.

690
00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:50.840
Okay, so the next one is what let's see if

691
00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:54.280
we can have Milani. Can you read the next one

692
00:38:54.280 --> 00:38:57.599
in Daniel nine twenty four? It comes after to finish

693
00:38:57.639 --> 00:39:09.760
the transgression. What else has to happen, that's right, and

694
00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:13.239
to make an end of sins, that's right, Malani. So

695
00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:17.239
that's the second thing that needs to happen with Israel,

696
00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:21.159
and that's going to happen after the church is called away.

697
00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:24.320
Now get Second Peter two and we'll see why this

698
00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:25.400
can't be for us.

699
00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:29.599
Get Second Peter chapter two.

700
00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:37.039
Please not another young kid reading that. So I'm fascinated

701
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:39.719
by the age group that he's referring. He's talking about

702
00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:44.000
some serious illogical issues here, and he's seemingly talking to

703
00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:45.159
a lot of young people.

704
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:49.079
This is fascinating to me. Just forget the sermon. Just

705
00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:50.039
hearing this is.

706
00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:53.239
Like, yeah, see, young people can do more than eat

707
00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:55.239
pizza and play games.

708
00:39:55.239 --> 00:39:57.239
Say they can do more than that. I know that's

709
00:39:57.239 --> 00:39:58.360
shocking to some people.

710
00:39:58.760 --> 00:40:01.960
All right, So I'm fascinated by this, all right. So

711
00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:04.079
all right, so he says, second Peter, let's see where

712
00:40:04.119 --> 00:40:04.679
he's going.

713
00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:20.639
To go here, Second Peter two. I'm sorry, First Peter two,

714
00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:28.440
because that was not right. First Peter two, all of

715
00:40:28.480 --> 00:40:32.960
the young people, when you have this verse, when you

716
00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:35.440
have your eyeballs on this verse, say amen, all the

717
00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:42.679
young people you got do you have? If you have it,

718
00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:46.480
you have your eyeballs on it, say amen. I didn't

719
00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:49.280
say the verse that would help. Second Peter two, verse

720
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twenty four, when you get it on your eye, say

721
00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:59.119
amen our First Peter two, anybody got in a cup

722
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of coffee.

723
00:41:03.559 --> 00:41:07.480
There is nothing worse than when you're preaching or teaching

724
00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:09.800
and you have a reference, and then you go look

725
00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:12.519
at the reference. You see the reference and something in

726
00:41:12.519 --> 00:41:16.039
your mind say, hmmm, that's not so you could already

727
00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:18.559
hear when he was flipping that, he didn't say it

728
00:41:18.679 --> 00:41:21.760
or didn't even start reading it, because there's something in

729
00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:23.679
his mind that was making him already doubt it. Then

730
00:41:23.719 --> 00:41:26.239
he looked and realized that wasn't it. So then he panicked.

731
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Then he went so, now he's all a little discombobulated,

732
00:41:29.320 --> 00:41:31.599
which I hate, man, I hate when that happens. I

733
00:41:31.679 --> 00:41:34.599
hate that so because for me, by the end of

734
00:41:34.599 --> 00:41:37.199
the sermon, all I'm going to remember, when I get

735
00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:39.679
to the end of the sermon is that situation that

736
00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:41.559
just happened right there. That's all I'm going to remember.

737
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That's how I got so confused over that.

738
00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:46.800
Oh so, but at least he makes a joke about

739
00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:49.039
it and tries to get everyone back on track and

740
00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:52.199
try to break the awkwardness of it. That's great, he's

741
00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:56.199
got everyone back on track. First Peter, chapter two, verse

742
00:41:56.320 --> 00:41:59.639
twenty four, where we're going to read these words, who

743
00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:03.280
has own self bear our sins and his own body

744
00:42:03.320 --> 00:42:05.920
on the tree, that we, being dead to sin, should

745
00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:11.199
live under righteousness by whose stripes he were healed? All right,

746
00:42:11.480 --> 00:42:14.320
that's what he's getting ready to read. Let's see what

747
00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:17.400
he's going to do with that in relation to that phrase,

748
00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:20.400
to make an end of sins and Daniel nine twenty four,

749
00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:22.840
I think what he's going to try to demonstrate is

750
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:25.920
to make an end of sins refers to Israel, where

751
00:42:26.239 --> 00:42:29.480
it's not referring to us, because our transgression, our sins

752
00:42:29.519 --> 00:42:31.920
have all been dealt with by Christ. This seems to

753
00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:35.199
be referring to something specifically for Israel at some later time,

754
00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:38.639
something different. That's the point he's attempting to make. Let's

755
00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:39.639
see if he does that.

756
00:42:41.639 --> 00:42:46.480
Preachers asleep, first Peter two twenty four.

757
00:42:46.519 --> 00:42:49.239
I need I'd like all young people to read that

758
00:42:49.400 --> 00:42:50.119
verse together.

759
00:42:50.239 --> 00:43:11.360
Ready, go, I'm very good.

760
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:15.480
So in Daniel nine twenty four, there has to be

761
00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:20.920
an end of sins. But one Peter two twenty four

762
00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:25.280
says that Jesus in his own self bear our what

763
00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:33.199
Jesus bore our sins. So when you cross reference Daniel

764
00:43:33.280 --> 00:43:37.840
nine twenty four with one Peter two twenty four, you'll

765
00:43:37.880 --> 00:43:42.000
see that individually. Now on the church age, look, Jesus,

766
00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:46.960
he already bore my sins and your sins on the tree.

767
00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:51.119
Everybody see that. Well, national Israel, it's talking about a

768
00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:56.280
national entity. In Daniel nine one, Peter two's talking about

769
00:43:56.320 --> 00:44:02.280
an individual thing. And Jesus bore our sins where in

770
00:44:02.360 --> 00:44:05.079
his own call out the answer, if you have it

771
00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:09.760
in his own body, that's right. And he bore our

772
00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:13.880
sins on his own body where on a what?

773
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:17.920
On a tree?

774
00:44:18.239 --> 00:44:24.760
Jesus, by the way, he was born of a virgin,

775
00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:34.599
and they laid him in a manger, dead wood, living savior.

776
00:44:36.599 --> 00:44:39.480
And then he dies on Calvary's tree, on a piece

777
00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:45.920
of dead wood, a living savior. That's pretty good. But

778
00:44:46.039 --> 00:44:51.320
he took care of our sins on the cross. Israel

779
00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:56.360
nationally has not had their sins taken care of. So

780
00:44:56.400 --> 00:45:00.920
there's a national versus an individual view. And when we

781
00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:04.760
understand that and we make that distinction, we can sort

782
00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:06.719
out these verses, all right.

783
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:08.880
Go back to Daniel nine, verse twenty four.

784
00:45:09.719 --> 00:45:12.880
And so the transgression of Israel has to be finished.

785
00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:16.320
The end of sin, the end of the sins of

786
00:45:16.440 --> 00:45:19.599
Israel has to be finished. You know, God said some

787
00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:24.800
really bad things about Israel because they went after what

788
00:45:26.159 --> 00:45:30.039
they went after, false gods. And the Lord just rips

789
00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:34.280
into him and he's got a lot of hard things

790
00:45:34.320 --> 00:45:38.280
that he says to him, Well, he's gonna make an

791
00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:39.159
end of their sin.

792
00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:44.920
But he's also I don't know, parents, have.

793
00:45:44.920 --> 00:45:50.119
You ever had to you know, your child outside doing

794
00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:54.199
something or inside doing something, and it's just you're just

795
00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:56.480
gonna have to call him in and you're just ripping

796
00:45:56.559 --> 00:45:56.920
into him.

797
00:45:57.800 --> 00:45:58.639
You ever have to do that?

798
00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:07.559
Yeah, And what typically comes after all of the dust settles,

799
00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:13.639
some type of reconciliation. Right, Well, it's the same thing

800
00:46:13.679 --> 00:46:16.679
with National Israel. So what's the next thing on the list.

801
00:46:18.760 --> 00:46:22.360
Look at the text and let's have Hannah you read

802
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:24.320
the next one.

803
00:46:26.039 --> 00:46:29.000
To make what that's right?

804
00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:33.360
The Lord is going to make reconciliation for that nation.

805
00:46:33.880 --> 00:46:38.000
He's going to restore National Israel. He just doesn't leave

806
00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:40.920
them where they're at in their sins and in their transgression.

807
00:46:41.239 --> 00:46:44.119
He's going to restore them, and they're finally going to

808
00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:51.000
be reconciled to him. Why can't that be for us?

809
00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:52.480
You have? What's that?

810
00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:58.599
Because we're not Israel? That's right, our sins have already

811
00:46:58.599 --> 00:46:59.320
been reconciled.

812
00:46:59.320 --> 00:46:59.639
That's right.

813
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:06.239
Else, those are the two basic answers, and they're correct.

814
00:47:06.239 --> 00:47:11.239
Go to Second Corinthians five. Second Corinthians, chapter number five,

815
00:47:11.440 --> 00:47:15.119
Lily can you read this when you get it? Second Corinthians,

816
00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:25.039
chapter five, verse number nineteen. Second Corinthians five, verse number nineteen,

817
00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:39.960
Isaiah verse number twenty and Roger verse number twenty one,

818
00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:50.159
and when you're ready, Malaney, Second Corinthians five versus nineteen, Lily,

819
00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:50.960
I'm sorry.

820
00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:15.000
Therein can they take us the word?

821
00:48:16.679 --> 00:48:17.920
Okay? Don't stop right there?

822
00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:20.760
That's awesome.

823
00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:24.119
I mean he he seems a little discombobulated in some

824
00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:26.880
of this. What he's mentioning something like I think he

825
00:48:26.920 --> 00:48:29.280
said Isaiah, but he's in Second Corinthians, so maybe he

826
00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:31.719
also gave an Isaiah reference. I was also reading other

827
00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:34.440
things while listening to this, so maybe I'm discombobulating. But again,

828
00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:38.440
that's a young kid reading that. That's a young kid

829
00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:41.800
reading it. So I I love this that that the

830
00:48:41.880 --> 00:48:44.599
kids are participating. So that's what I'm that's one of

831
00:48:44.599 --> 00:48:47.599
the big things I'm taking away. Now he's going through

832
00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:50.800
this relatively quickly, right, So I think what he's basically

833
00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:52.599
going to try to do is show that the six

834
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:56.840
things in Daniel nine to twenty four, right, the six things,

835
00:48:56.880 --> 00:48:59.320
and I'm assuming if we identified the six things, it

836
00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:03.679
would be let's go through this finish the transgression would

837
00:49:03.679 --> 00:49:04.320
be number one.

838
00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:06.960
To make an end of sins would be number three.

839
00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:08.480
I'm sorry.

840
00:49:08.639 --> 00:49:11.000
Finish the transgression would be number one. To make an

841
00:49:11.039 --> 00:49:14.280
end of sins would be number two. To make reconciliation

842
00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:17.880
for iniquity would be number three. To bring in everlasting

843
00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:20.519
righteousness would be number four. To sell up the vision

844
00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:22.920
of prophecy would be number five, and to anoint the

845
00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:24.559
most holy would be number six.

846
00:49:25.519 --> 00:49:27.119
Those would be the six things.

847
00:49:27.719 --> 00:49:33.039
His thesis is, these six things do not refer to

848
00:49:33.079 --> 00:49:35.920
the Church, do not refer to you as an individual.

849
00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:40.119
These six things refer to Israel. They refer to the

850
00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:41.599
nation of Israel.

851
00:49:41.960 --> 00:49:43.079
That's his thesis.

852
00:49:43.280 --> 00:49:48.519
Now, his kind of argumentation is really like, hey, well,

853
00:49:48.519 --> 00:49:51.400
some of these things are already fulfilled for us. Now again,

854
00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:56.159
others would argue, well, wait a minute, that doesn't prove anything.

855
00:49:56.559 --> 00:49:59.159
If I go to the New Testament and find scriptures

856
00:49:59.320 --> 00:50:01.679
that show that these things were fulfilled for us, could

857
00:50:02.039 --> 00:50:04.599
not then argue that this was a prophecy pointing to

858
00:50:04.679 --> 00:50:07.000
Christ doing those things for us, which you've already read

859
00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:09.800
the proof of some we can make an argument, I think, though,

860
00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:12.239
then what you have to do is establish well Daniel

861
00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:15.840
nine twenty four is clearly about Israel because it says

862
00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:19.639
determined upon thy people and upon thy Holy City, which

863
00:50:19.679 --> 00:50:22.639
he did identify. So I don't know if going to

864
00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:24.960
these other verses simply to say well Christ did this

865
00:50:25.039 --> 00:50:30.639
and this and this necessarily then disproves the claim that

866
00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:32.159
this could be for the church. I don't know if

867
00:50:32.159 --> 00:50:35.519
that really helps. I think the issue is who the

868
00:50:35.559 --> 00:50:37.199
text is about. So then I think what you have

869
00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:40.480
to do. The text says it's about So is the

870
00:50:40.519 --> 00:50:45.519
text identifies who this prophecy is about. It's about Israel,

871
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:49.920
it's about Jerusalem. So we understand now, then what we

872
00:50:50.039 --> 00:50:53.159
have to do is not focus on how Christ already

873
00:50:53.199 --> 00:50:54.039
did this for us.

874
00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:57.199
Then we have to identify how this is going to

875
00:50:57.199 --> 00:50:58.639
be done for Israel.

876
00:50:59.079 --> 00:51:01.199
When are when is there going to be a finish

877
00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:02.440
to their transgression?

878
00:51:02.639 --> 00:51:04.360
When is there going to be an end to their sins?

879
00:51:04.400 --> 00:51:06.679
When is there going to be reconciliation, When is there

880
00:51:06.719 --> 00:51:09.000
going to be bringing in everlasting righteousness?

881
00:51:09.039 --> 00:51:10.920
I think you would want to actually be doing.

882
00:51:10.760 --> 00:51:14.679
Cross references to verses that speak about these things happening

883
00:51:14.719 --> 00:51:19.199
to Israel, not necessarily finding verses that would seem to

884
00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:22.960
apply to God Christ doing this for us. Now I

885
00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:24.719
know what he's trying to do is say, well, these

886
00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:27.519
verses show that Christ did it for us. Therefore this

887
00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:30.920
this cannot be what Daniel nine twenty four is referring to.

888
00:51:30.960 --> 00:51:33.880
But some could say, no, those verses showing that Christ

889
00:51:33.880 --> 00:51:36.719
did that for us, it's proof that Daniel nine twenty

890
00:51:36.719 --> 00:51:38.880
four is about us. So it could be argue the

891
00:51:38.920 --> 00:51:41.559
opposite way as well. So I think what you really

892
00:51:41.559 --> 00:51:45.440
should do personally is then find the cross references that

893
00:51:45.519 --> 00:51:49.400
would see no, when there are specific verses that speak

894
00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:52.440
about these things happening to Israel in a specific way,

895
00:51:54.079 --> 00:51:56.599
and look, those things have not happened, so they have

896
00:51:56.639 --> 00:51:59.440
to be future. So any of verses that talk about

897
00:51:59.519 --> 00:52:02.719
Christ doing this can't be referring to this because there

898
00:52:02.719 --> 00:52:04.679
are other verses that say that God is going to

899
00:52:04.679 --> 00:52:07.039
do this for Israel in a very specific way that's

900
00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:09.760
different than what Christ has done for us. You would

901
00:52:09.760 --> 00:52:12.719
have to kind of offer a contrast there, right at least,

902
00:52:12.760 --> 00:52:15.280
I think, So let's see how else he handles all

903
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:15.559
of this.

904
00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:26.079
God reconciled the world to himself. Before you were saved,

905
00:52:26.119 --> 00:52:28.079
were you God's enemy?

906
00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:30.039
After you are saved?

907
00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:36.119
Are you God's enemy, that relationship has been reconciled. Now,

908
00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:41.639
only God can do that, and He has committed unto

909
00:52:41.800 --> 00:52:49.760
us the word of reconciliation. I can't reconcile a last sinner,

910
00:52:51.320 --> 00:52:53.840
but we have the word of reconciliation. We have the

911
00:52:53.920 --> 00:52:56.079
reconciler who we can point people to.

912
00:52:56.920 --> 00:52:57.840
Does that make sense.

913
00:52:58.719 --> 00:53:02.039
It's not my job, you were your job to reconcile

914
00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:05.320
every single thing that's going on in this world. Only

915
00:53:05.480 --> 00:53:09.400
Jesus can do that. He gave us the word of reconciliation,

916
00:53:10.039 --> 00:53:15.800
and he gave us the ministry of reconciliation. So look

917
00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:18.079
at verse number eighteen. What does it say at the end,

918
00:53:18.119 --> 00:53:19.480
And hath given to us what.

919
00:53:23.320 --> 00:53:24.079
Right? Say it again?

920
00:53:24.119 --> 00:53:25.880
So I know everybody's got it, and hath given to

921
00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:31.880
us what the ministry of reconciliation? As Christians, that is

922
00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:38.119
our ministry. If we stand, everybody stand like just kind

923
00:53:38.119 --> 00:53:41.360
of go like this at your hands. We are. We

924
00:53:41.400 --> 00:53:45.599
are standing ready to reconcile people. That's how Jesus stands.

925
00:53:46.280 --> 00:53:47.559
Now turn your.

926
00:53:47.519 --> 00:53:51.280
Head and put your hand out like this. That's not

927
00:53:51.360 --> 00:53:54.519
how Jesus stands. That's not how we should stand either.

928
00:53:54.599 --> 00:53:56.760
By the way, we are trying to.

929
00:53:58.199 --> 00:53:59.400
Have the same minus.

930
00:53:59.559 --> 00:54:02.320
We're trying to have the ministry that God gave us,

931
00:54:03.199 --> 00:54:06.440
but only he can do the reconcile. All right, verse

932
00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:12.840
number twenty, Go ahead, Isaiah.

933
00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:15.760
Okay, now it makes sense. When he said Isaiah twenty,

934
00:54:16.119 --> 00:54:18.800
I was all confused. He was giving a different reference.

935
00:54:18.960 --> 00:54:22.360
There's someone in the church named Isaiah who's supposed to

936
00:54:22.440 --> 00:54:23.360
read verse twenty.

937
00:54:23.400 --> 00:54:23.679
Okay.

938
00:54:23.920 --> 00:54:26.159
I was all confused because I was trying to do

939
00:54:26.239 --> 00:54:28.639
multiple things while listening. I was looking things up and

940
00:54:28.679 --> 00:54:31.239
trying to process how I would how would I I

941
00:54:31.239 --> 00:54:34.079
would try to approach this. When he said Isaiah twenty,

942
00:54:34.119 --> 00:54:35.239
I'm like, wait a minute, I thought we were in

943
00:54:35.559 --> 00:54:36.639
what Second Corinthians?

944
00:54:36.800 --> 00:54:38.719
What just happened? Okay, now it makes sense.

945
00:54:38.840 --> 00:54:41.559
So now, okay, I was the one who was confused

946
00:54:41.599 --> 00:54:46.119
and discombobulated, right, Okay, he wasn't.

947
00:54:46.199 --> 00:54:46.599
I was.

948
00:54:48.639 --> 00:54:53.559
Now, then we are ambassadors for Christ, and now God

949
00:54:53.639 --> 00:55:03.119
did seek you by us Christ, I said, be ye

950
00:55:03.239 --> 00:55:04.920
reconciled to God.

951
00:55:05.360 --> 00:55:08.920
Exactly, be ye reconciled to God.

952
00:55:09.480 --> 00:55:14.119
So our message is you're a sinner. We want you

953
00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:17.840
to be reconciled to God. Here's how. Let me tell

954
00:55:17.840 --> 00:55:18.760
you about his ministry.

955
00:55:18.840 --> 00:55:20.960
Let me tell you about his ministry and the word

956
00:55:21.039 --> 00:55:24.840
of reconciliation. Here's what he did to reconcile lost sinners

957
00:55:24.840 --> 00:55:28.960
to himself, be reconcile to God. That's essentially what the

958
00:55:29.000 --> 00:55:33.119
Gospel message is. We want sinners to be reconciled to God.

959
00:55:34.320 --> 00:55:37.119
Once a sinner has been reconciled to God, do you

960
00:55:37.199 --> 00:55:39.000
have to go back and be re reconciled.

961
00:55:40.159 --> 00:55:42.960
It's done. It's once it's done.

962
00:55:43.480 --> 00:55:52.679
So obviously, if that's true, what is set what when

963
00:55:52.719 --> 00:55:56.159
it says make a reconciliation for iniquity in Daniel nine,

964
00:55:56.840 --> 00:55:59.239
God must then be dealing with what.

965
00:56:02.079 --> 00:56:04.880
That's right, He's got to be dealing with Israel.

966
00:56:06.960 --> 00:56:12.119
See his approach is these specific things and the New

967
00:56:12.199 --> 00:56:16.280
Testament are shown to be done by Christ. But because

968
00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:18.840
they're being shown to be done by Christ, and Daniel

969
00:56:18.880 --> 00:56:22.000
nine twenty four can't be referring to those things because

970
00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:27.960
Daniel nine twenty four is talking about well, Israel, I

971
00:56:28.079 --> 00:56:29.000
know what he's trying to do.

972
00:56:29.159 --> 00:56:29.400
Again.

973
00:56:29.800 --> 00:56:34.440
I think that that could lead someone who interprets the

974
00:56:34.559 --> 00:56:37.599
Old Testament as being about the Church can be like, exactly,

975
00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:38.800
you're proving our point.

976
00:56:39.199 --> 00:56:42.800
Christ did all of these things. Therefore those things.

977
00:56:42.519 --> 00:56:45.519
That Christ did, this has to be referring to the Church,

978
00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:48.719
not Israel, because it's already been done.

979
00:56:49.199 --> 00:56:51.000
But I would argue, no, no, no.

980
00:56:50.840 --> 00:56:53.880
No, I would argue, the way he should have approached

981
00:56:53.880 --> 00:56:57.639
this is okay. So we've already determined who the prophecy

982
00:56:57.719 --> 00:56:59.960
is for it's upon thy people and upon thy whole,

983
00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:03.239
all right, and the context there's no question that's Israel.

984
00:57:03.320 --> 00:57:03.880
End of story.

985
00:57:03.920 --> 00:57:05.800
I think we can prove that, all right. So what's

986
00:57:05.800 --> 00:57:08.360
the first thing? Finish the transgression. Don't go to the

987
00:57:08.400 --> 00:57:10.800
New Testament and show how Christ has finished the transgression

988
00:57:10.800 --> 00:57:13.280
for us. Go to a passage that would seem to

989
00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:16.719
indicate where God is going to finish the transgression for Israel,

990
00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:19.519
any other passage that would use that language and apply

991
00:57:19.599 --> 00:57:25.679
it towards Israel. Do that, then you can go say,

992
00:57:25.920 --> 00:57:29.199
but there are these other verses that show christis finished

993
00:57:29.199 --> 00:57:30.519
the transgression for us.

994
00:57:30.840 --> 00:57:32.599
You can bring that in. But I think what you

995
00:57:32.679 --> 00:57:33.440
first need to.

996
00:57:33.480 --> 00:57:37.280
Establish is that are is there other passages that speak

997
00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:39.840
of God doing this for Israel? And if there is,

998
00:57:39.920 --> 00:57:42.199
then you can say has it been done? And if

999
00:57:42.199 --> 00:57:44.239
you can say, well, that's never been done, then you

1000
00:57:44.320 --> 00:57:46.559
know it's future. Then you know it has to be

1001
00:57:46.679 --> 00:57:49.480
separate from what Christ has done for us. If you

1002
00:57:49.599 --> 00:57:52.480
can show me that there's language where God is going

1003
00:57:52.519 --> 00:57:55.519
to finish the transgression for Israel, and I can then

1004
00:57:55.679 --> 00:57:59.320
demonstrate that's not happens yet, then I can then argue

1005
00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:02.079
it has to be future. So then what the Bible

1006
00:58:02.159 --> 00:58:05.360
says Christ has done for us in finishing the transgression

1007
00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:09.559
can't apply because it speaks of this being done for

1008
00:58:09.639 --> 00:58:12.480
Israel in a way that hasn't been done yet. That

1009
00:58:12.719 --> 00:58:14.960
I think you have to kind of establish it that way.

1010
00:58:15.000 --> 00:58:19.280
He's taking kind of a different approach, and you can

1011
00:58:19.400 --> 00:58:21.679
you can see which way you would which way you

1012
00:58:21.719 --> 00:58:23.519
would prefer for it to work.

1013
00:58:26.440 --> 00:58:30.360
Not an individual, Okay, So what do I do if

1014
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:33.400
I meet a Jewish person today, which, by the way,

1015
00:58:33.440 --> 00:58:35.079
you don't have to travel to Israel to meet a

1016
00:58:35.159 --> 00:58:40.159
Jewish person. There's more Jews living outside of Israel today

1017
00:58:40.320 --> 00:58:45.000
more than ever. When you meet a Jewish person, you

1018
00:58:45.039 --> 00:58:47.679
don't have to tell them as an individual, you have

1019
00:58:47.719 --> 00:58:49.519
to wait for Daniel's PROFETI hate to.

1020
00:58:49.519 --> 00:58:50.719
Happen for you to be safe.

1021
00:58:52.480 --> 00:58:54.639
No, what do we do we preach to them the

1022
00:58:54.679 --> 00:58:56.159
Ministry of Reconciliation.

1023
00:58:56.519 --> 00:59:02.320
Why because they need to be saved.

1024
00:59:07.480 --> 00:59:08.039
Why else?

1025
00:59:13.239 --> 00:59:16.000
I want to argue, because the ministry for reconciliation is

1026
00:59:16.039 --> 00:59:20.000
for all individuals. It's to be preached to every man, woman, boy,

1027
00:59:20.079 --> 00:59:24.440
girl and child. It's to be preached to everyone. So

1028
00:59:24.519 --> 00:59:27.840
the ministry of reconciliation is for everyone. They promised for

1029
00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:34.559
national salvation. That comes later, but for now, we preach

1030
00:59:34.639 --> 00:59:38.360
reconciliation to everyone. I think that's the direction he's going

1031
00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:42.440
to go. Maybe he's got a different idea.

1032
00:59:43.639 --> 00:59:46.880
We're supposed to preach the gospel to everybody. That's like,

1033
00:59:47.079 --> 00:59:49.440
right there, I'm going to be asking you a question. Wrong,

1034
00:59:49.519 --> 00:59:54.239
But that's a sensory right there. Everybody means everybody is

1035
00:59:54.280 --> 00:59:57.920
a what a sinner? An individual sinate.

1036
00:59:58.760 --> 01:00:01.719
So we preach the gospel to a Jewish person the

1037
01:00:01.760 --> 01:00:04.679
same reason we've preached the gospel to any other center

1038
01:00:05.079 --> 01:00:09.559
is because we're all individuals, and God is dealing with individuals.

1039
01:00:09.599 --> 01:00:13.039
Now, he doesn't have a national plan in place for.

1040
01:00:13.159 --> 01:00:19.519
Salvation until Israel. God Israel is God's chosen people, is nation,

1041
01:00:20.119 --> 01:00:25.239
and that nation has to be clans. It isn't gonna

1042
01:00:25.280 --> 01:00:25.760
be plans.

1043
01:00:25.840 --> 01:00:30.480
Now, if every individual Jew got saved in Israel, that

1044
01:00:31.280 --> 01:00:32.960
wouldn't mean Daniel's prophetic.

1045
01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:39.079
We was fulfilled by the way that won't happen. That

1046
01:00:39.199 --> 01:00:40.559
can't happen because.

1047
01:00:42.119 --> 01:00:45.199
God said that that remnant is finally going to look

1048
01:00:45.199 --> 01:00:48.159
and that nation will be saved in a day. All

1049
01:00:48.280 --> 01:00:51.840
those that are living at that point when Christ comes back,

1050
01:00:52.800 --> 01:00:54.880
they will finally look and live.

1051
01:00:56.360 --> 01:01:02.920
Who is the individual in the New Town? Estimate the pictures?

1052
01:01:04.320 --> 01:01:09.679
What will happen with national Israel when Christ come?

1053
01:01:09.840 --> 01:01:15.039
Right before Christ comes back? It was the individual in

1054
01:01:15.079 --> 01:01:15.840
the New Testament?

1055
01:01:18.159 --> 01:01:21.719
Is it the thief on the cross? Is it? The

1056
01:01:21.760 --> 01:01:23.679
thief on the cross? Is that where he's going?

1057
01:01:23.719 --> 01:01:24.000
Here?

1058
01:01:24.320 --> 01:01:25.199
Let's see.

1059
01:01:27.199 --> 01:01:32.679
The pictures, the individual, pictures, the nation? I got it.

1060
01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:37.800
Who's on the road to Damascus?

1061
01:01:38.639 --> 01:01:42.719
Okay, he's gonna go with Paul. The reason I was

1062
01:01:42.719 --> 01:01:45.519
saying the thief on the cross is because he looks

1063
01:01:45.599 --> 01:01:47.639
to and he sees the one who has been piered.

1064
01:01:47.760 --> 01:01:48.760
That Zachariah.

1065
01:01:48.840 --> 01:01:52.119
They're gonna look and see the one who has been pierced?

1066
01:01:52.239 --> 01:01:54.679
Is it what Zachariah twelve? Hang on, let me see

1067
01:01:54.719 --> 01:02:01.599
if I can find the reference, Saul, I guess, but

1068
01:02:01.880 --> 01:02:02.760
let me see if I can.

1069
01:02:02.599 --> 01:02:03.920
Find the reference I'm looking for.

1070
01:02:04.039 --> 01:02:05.760
Just give me a second it may take me a

1071
01:02:05.800 --> 01:02:11.840
second to look it up. Let me see here I

1072
01:02:11.880 --> 01:02:16.559
can find it. I think I went past it to

1073
01:02:16.960 --> 01:02:18.000
Zachariah twelve ten.

1074
01:02:18.039 --> 01:02:18.519
I believe.

1075
01:02:18.840 --> 01:02:22.960
I believe at Zachariah twelve ten. If you look at

1076
01:02:23.000 --> 01:02:27.039
Zachariah twelve ten, you'll see what I'm referencing.

1077
01:02:30.480 --> 01:02:33.239
Paul is blinded, Paul is saved.

1078
01:02:33.480 --> 01:02:36.039
Yeah, but if we're gonna look for an individual that

1079
01:02:36.079 --> 01:02:39.599
represents what's gonna happen to Israel, I mean it just

1080
01:02:39.639 --> 01:02:44.000
sounds like because we have a we have very specific language, right.

1081
01:02:44.119 --> 01:02:47.280
Zachariah chapter twelve, verse ten.

1082
01:02:49.119 --> 01:02:49.320
Um.

1083
01:02:50.639 --> 01:02:52.239
Yeah, Zachariah twelve ten.

1084
01:02:52.480 --> 01:02:54.360
And I will pour upon the house of David and

1085
01:02:54.440 --> 01:02:57.199
upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem the spirit of grace and

1086
01:02:57.239 --> 01:03:00.400
of supplication. And they shall look upon me whom they

1087
01:03:00.440 --> 01:03:04.079
have pierced, And they shall mourn for him as one

1088
01:03:04.159 --> 01:03:08.159
mourneth for his only son. One shall be in bitterness

1089
01:03:08.199 --> 01:03:11.239
for him, as one is in bitterness for his first born.

1090
01:03:11.679 --> 01:03:14.719
They're gonna someone's gonna look at the one whom has pierced. Well,

1091
01:03:14.800 --> 01:03:16.960
the thief on the cross is literally looking at the

1092
01:03:16.960 --> 01:03:21.519
one who has been pierced, and he's mourning suffering with him.

1093
01:03:21.679 --> 01:03:24.280
So I don't know, the thief on the crust doesn't

1094
01:03:24.519 --> 01:03:32.480
fit a little bit better. Right, he's suffering, Israel has

1095
01:03:32.519 --> 01:03:36.639
suffered under judgment. Right, they're gonna look to the one

1096
01:03:36.679 --> 01:03:39.639
who's been pierced. That he literally is looking upon the

1097
01:03:39.639 --> 01:03:43.199
one who is pierced. I think that does that not fit?

1098
01:03:44.760 --> 01:03:46.159
You can tell me what you think?

1099
01:03:49.280 --> 01:03:55.039
Is Taul and Hebrew Hebrews? Is he the greatest jew?

1100
01:03:55.159 --> 01:03:55.199
That?

1101
01:03:55.599 --> 01:04:00.920
I mean he was? And so when Paul and that

1102
01:04:01.079 --> 01:04:03.199
road to the masters, what happened? What does he see

1103
01:04:03.239 --> 01:04:10.679
from heaven? What Jesus is sinators?

1104
01:04:10.800 --> 01:04:11.519
That's another good?

1105
01:04:14.400 --> 01:04:17.760
So how does that when when Paul sees that light?

1106
01:04:17.960 --> 01:04:24.719
How is that pictures national issue is salvation? Because that

1107
01:04:24.840 --> 01:04:28.199
same light's gonna come from heaven before Christ comes back

1108
01:04:28.239 --> 01:04:29.719
and puts a seat on the wells.

1109
01:04:29.800 --> 01:04:33.840
They're finally going to look that light like lightning. Makes sense.

1110
01:04:34.719 --> 01:04:38.119
So there's an individual picture the apostle Paul to a

1111
01:04:38.239 --> 01:04:42.960
national Jewish salvation. And that's what Daniel nine is pointing to.

1112
01:04:44.719 --> 01:04:46.440
We got that right.

1113
01:04:49.440 --> 01:04:51.760
They are going to look upon him and whom they

1114
01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:52.159
have what.

1115
01:04:53.599 --> 01:05:04.000
Pierced, pierced, and that that remnant is is going to

1116
01:05:04.039 --> 01:05:19.280
be saved. I see something here. Okay, we'll move on.

1117
01:05:19.400 --> 01:05:21.480
What is the next one?

1118
01:05:21.760 --> 01:05:23.559
And Daniel nine to twenty.

1119
01:05:25.239 --> 01:05:26.079
We'll stop there.

1120
01:05:27.320 --> 01:05:29.159
I think he had an idea something, he was going

1121
01:05:29.239 --> 01:05:31.599
to look up like I do sometimes, and then he

1122
01:05:31.719 --> 01:05:35.920
just realized he needed to move on. So his approach,

1123
01:05:36.119 --> 01:05:38.320
so I'll try to make this as clear as possible.

1124
01:05:38.639 --> 01:05:43.079
His approach is now he does, he does, and I'm

1125
01:05:43.079 --> 01:05:44.760
going to try to summarize this to the best of

1126
01:05:44.760 --> 01:05:46.639
my ability. I remember, I'm doing this in real time,

1127
01:05:46.679 --> 01:05:49.400
so sometimes when I explain something, I always feel at

1128
01:05:49.400 --> 01:05:50.880
the end I wasn't as clear as I could be.

1129
01:05:50.920 --> 01:05:53.480
But at the same time I have to acknowledge. I mean,

1130
01:05:53.559 --> 01:05:57.039
hopefully the listener understands I'm doing this in real time

1131
01:05:57.199 --> 01:05:58.039
with no preps.

1132
01:05:58.079 --> 01:05:59.480
So hopefully if I'm not.

1133
01:05:59.519 --> 01:06:02.360
As clear, it's it's, you know, because I'm trying to

1134
01:06:02.400 --> 01:06:03.400
process it in real time.

1135
01:06:03.440 --> 01:06:04.199
So let me explain.

1136
01:06:04.360 --> 01:06:07.920
He does a great job explaining that Daniel nine twenty four,

1137
01:06:07.920 --> 01:06:10.519
where it says this prophecy is determined upon thy people

1138
01:06:10.559 --> 01:06:13.760
and upon the Holy City that's Israel, We're in complete agreement.

1139
01:06:13.960 --> 01:06:15.000
I believe that's true.

1140
01:06:15.039 --> 01:06:17.320
Okay, Now he could have done some more work, maybe

1141
01:06:17.320 --> 01:06:20.199
showing in Daniel nine twenty four in the Book of

1142
01:06:20.280 --> 01:06:23.039
Daniel when it refers to thy people or holy City,

1143
01:06:23.199 --> 01:06:24.840
that is clearly Israel or in.

1144
01:06:24.800 --> 01:06:25.679
The Old Testament.

1145
01:06:25.840 --> 01:06:28.199
I think you could probably demonstrate that in a relatively

1146
01:06:28.239 --> 01:06:30.599
quick amount of time. I think that's really the strong

1147
01:06:30.719 --> 01:06:34.280
suit here. But his argument is, Okay, six things are

1148
01:06:34.320 --> 01:06:36.760
listed in Daniel nine twenty four. If I look in

1149
01:06:36.840 --> 01:06:40.199
the New Testament, these six things are shown that Christ

1150
01:06:40.320 --> 01:06:44.360
has done it for us in his way of thinking.

1151
01:06:44.679 --> 01:06:47.960
Because the New Testament says Christ has done this for us,

1152
01:06:48.119 --> 01:06:50.840
then it cannot be for Israel. This has got to

1153
01:06:50.840 --> 01:06:55.400
be referring to something different for Israel. I understand the point.

1154
01:06:55.440 --> 01:06:56.119
But I can.

1155
01:06:56.000 --> 01:06:59.000
Also hear someone who says, what are you doing that

1156
01:06:59.159 --> 01:07:02.679
proves Daniel nine twenty four then is for us, because

1157
01:07:02.719 --> 01:07:05.480
you've got New Testament scripture that says Christ is doing

1158
01:07:05.519 --> 01:07:06.880
these very things for us.

1159
01:07:07.119 --> 01:07:09.440
So you have to interpret Daniel nine twenty four for

1160
01:07:09.559 --> 01:07:10.159
being us.

1161
01:07:10.360 --> 01:07:14.159
And I understand that argument, right, So I would approach

1162
01:07:14.199 --> 01:07:17.039
it differently. Wait wait, wait, wait, let's go through these

1163
01:07:17.079 --> 01:07:21.320
six things and look for scriptures that show when God

1164
01:07:21.400 --> 01:07:22.400
is going to do these.

1165
01:07:22.280 --> 01:07:23.320
Things for Israel.

1166
01:07:23.639 --> 01:07:29.639
Specific verses that are israel centric, that is focused on Israel. Okay,

1167
01:07:30.039 --> 01:07:31.440
God is going to do it this way. He's going

1168
01:07:31.440 --> 01:07:32.480
to do it this way. He's going to do it

1169
01:07:32.519 --> 01:07:35.440
this way. Right, when is this going to occur? Well,

1170
01:07:35.559 --> 01:07:38.360
it hasn't happened, so it has to happen in the future.

1171
01:07:38.440 --> 01:07:39.800
Okay, Well, then that.

1172
01:07:39.679 --> 01:07:43.960
Immediately means it cannot be then referencing to these other

1173
01:07:44.039 --> 01:07:46.320
verses that show that Christ has done this for us,

1174
01:07:46.559 --> 01:07:49.119
because there are other verses that show God is going

1175
01:07:49.159 --> 01:07:51.639
to do this for Israel in a very specific way

1176
01:07:51.760 --> 01:07:54.800
in a specific time. Luck Zechariah twelve to ten. That's

1177
01:07:54.840 --> 01:07:58.360
not referring to what Christ did for us. That's referring

1178
01:07:58.360 --> 01:08:00.480
to at some point Israel's going to say the one

1179
01:08:00.519 --> 01:08:03.760
whom there appears as a nation, and then they're going

1180
01:08:03.800 --> 01:08:07.440
to believe. Okay, that seems different. In the Book of Romans,

1181
01:08:07.719 --> 01:08:11.719
all Israel will be saved at the conclusion when the

1182
01:08:12.280 --> 01:08:14.519
fullness of the Gentiles, when that time has come to

1183
01:08:14.559 --> 01:08:16.319
an end, then all Israel.

1184
01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:16.600
Will be saved.

1185
01:08:16.640 --> 01:08:19.720
Okay, that's separate than what Christ has done. Okay, this

1186
01:08:19.800 --> 01:08:23.399
is all referencing something different. Then you can build the case.

1187
01:08:24.439 --> 01:08:27.600
His approach is this is this passage is for Israel,

1188
01:08:27.800 --> 01:08:29.760
and we know these things aren't for Israel because we've

1189
01:08:29.800 --> 01:08:32.159
got these passages that showed that Jesus did it for us.

1190
01:08:32.640 --> 01:08:36.119
I understand, but I just know how someone could flip

1191
01:08:36.159 --> 01:08:39.520
that and use it against his argument. What I would

1192
01:08:39.560 --> 01:08:42.359
do is, look, Okay, yes Christ did this for us,

1193
01:08:42.479 --> 01:08:44.079
but let's not go there first.

1194
01:08:44.359 --> 01:08:44.920
Let's try to.

1195
01:08:44.920 --> 01:08:48.600
Find these passages that would show God doing these things

1196
01:08:48.640 --> 01:08:53.640
specifically for Israel and try to figure out the circumstances.

1197
01:08:52.760 --> 01:08:55.239
The timing, the way it's going to be done.

1198
01:08:56.199 --> 01:09:02.039
Then then we can argue, hm, hasn't happened yet, Then

1199
01:09:02.079 --> 01:09:05.760
this is different than those other verses. So what I

1200
01:09:05.800 --> 01:09:09.520
would challenge you to do is go through Daniel nine

1201
01:09:09.640 --> 01:09:13.159
twenty four. If you want a little homework, just find

1202
01:09:13.199 --> 01:09:15.720
a couple of cross references that shows the term thy

1203
01:09:15.800 --> 01:09:19.720
people and Holy City in the Old Testament Amost almost

1204
01:09:19.760 --> 01:09:23.159
inevitably always. I think you could probably demonstrate, at least

1205
01:09:23.199 --> 01:09:27.119
put it this way frequently is a reference to Israel

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and a reference to Jerusalem.

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Right now.

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Once you've established that, then you can be like, Okay,

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when will God? Then we need to find verses that

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speak of God finishing the transgression of Israel, finishing the

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transgression of Jerusalem. What are some cross references that work?

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Then you go look at those cross references and try

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to figure out the timing of it, the circumstances of it,

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and go, this seems to be something different. Go through

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each of the six and try to find cross references

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that speak of these things happening specifically for Israel, for Jerusalem.

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Don't go to passages about Christ doing this for us.

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Go to passages that seem to speak of these things

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and reference to Israel specifically.

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That would be your assignment right now.

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That sounds like, you see what's going to happen. That

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sermon We didn't even finish all of it, could now

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drive an entire series if I wanted to, I could

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end up doing an entire series on Daniel nine twenty

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four Israel, or the Church Daniel nine twenty four Israel,

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or the Church Part one Daniel nine twenty four Israel,

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or the Church Part two Daniel nine twenty four Israel,

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the Church Part three, And we could go through all

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six of those things and look at cross references to show, hmm,

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this seems.

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To be about Israel.

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Maybe we could maybe we could do this and add

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it to our study on eschatology. You see, once again,

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the one sermon could literally drive six weeks eight weeks

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of study. All right, I have a feeling, I have

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a feeling that we're going to come back to that.

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We have to come back to that, don't we I

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mean I don't.

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I don't know. Now I'm like preoccupied.

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Now now I'm going to be like, oh, I got

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to do some work on this, so we will. But

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we're at seventy one minute, so we'll stop. Thank you

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for listening. Everyone, have a great Wednesday. I don't know

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if you have church tonight, but if you don't have

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church tonight, you've got it. You've got to get your

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get your white board out, get your family together. All right,

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Tonight's Daniel nine twenty four. Everyone, we got six things.

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Our job is to determine if these six things, how

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God will do it for Israel?

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When, where, what, how, all.

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The circumstances cross referencing time go, And then you can

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have some you know, you can have a good evening

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doing that. And I hate to say it, you probably

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may get more out of that than you would going

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to some churches. And I hate to say that, I

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know that sounds like I'm against the church. But a

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lot of people will drive to a building tonight and

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get very little out.

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Of it, may not even get much. So that's a reality.

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All right.

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We'll talk about We've talked about that a million times.

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We won't talk about it now, but in the meantime,

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enjoy Daniel nine twenty four. Let your cross referencing be accurate,

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be helpful, be beneficial, and may you understand Daniel nine

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twenty four better than you did before you woke up today.

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Thanks for listening. Godless,