Jan. 19, 2025

AI vs Lordship Salvation Pt 2

AI vs Lordship Salvation Pt 2

A discussion with AI about Lordship Salvation

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A discussion with AI about Lordship Salvation

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Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is

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the Theology Central podcast making Theology Central.

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Good morning everyone.

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It is Sunday, January nineteenth, twenty twenty five. It is

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currently eleven eighteen am Central Time, and I am coming

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to you live from the Theology Central studio located right

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here in Abilene, Texas. Well. In the last hour, we

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had a pretty lengthy discussion about artificial intelligence and Isaiah

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chapter forty, verse eleven. And I know for this hour,

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if I was at church, we would be covering Isaiah

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chapter forty, verses nine through eleven. That's what I would

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typically be doing. That's what I would want to do.

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But all of our verse by verse study of Isaiah

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forty from verse one all the way to verse nine

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has been done at the church in front of a

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live audience, so I didn't want it then all of

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a sudden go from Isaiah forty nine to eleven, switch

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it to more of a podcasting format that, oh, I

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like to kind of keep it consistent. If I start

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something in front of people, I want to kind of

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finish it there, and then if I start if I'm

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doing something on the podcast, I want to keep it here.

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So I was like, well, what what what can we do? Well,

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we've been having a very important conversation on the podcast

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that many many of the people listening this morning may

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not be familiar with her. I'm not even engaged in

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in any way, shape or form. So I'm going to

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do a little bit of a review, and then I'm

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going to try to move us forward, and hopefully this

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is going to have a very important A lot of

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very important philological ideas and concepts are about to be discussed,

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and hopefully everyone will catch up and be on the

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same page because this is very important all through twenty

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twenty five. Kind of the really starting in twenty twenty four,

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we started talking about it a lot, but as we've

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entered into twenty twenty five, I've decided, in fact, it

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created an entire series about artificial intelligence in the future

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of the church, because you've got to be you either

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just don't understand artificial intelligence, or you're just not paying

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any attention, or you're I don't know what is wrong

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if you don't understand artificial intelligence. And I'll just say

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this bluntly has made the church one thousand percent irrelevant.

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You don't need it. It's just a waste of time.

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AI can do anything the church can do a million

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times better when it comes to the preaching and teaching

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of God's Word. Now, if your church is sacramental, well

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you need the church for the sacraments. But if you

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go to church for the teaching of God's Word an

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in depth study of scripture, AI can blow away any sermon.

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And we've demonstrated that already multiple times in twenty twenty

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five by placing AI versus specific sermons, and AI destroyed

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those sermons in every way possible and avoided all the

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errors and pointed out all the errors and the sermons.

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So we've been talking about that. So I came up

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with the idea, what if we instead of putting AI

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against a sermon, what if we put artificial intelligence against.

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A philological system.

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Oh, that could be interesting, right, What if we had

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them go head to head artificial intelligence of versus how

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about artificial intelligence versus lordship salvation? Oh, that that could

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be what could happen? Well, we spent over an hour

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and part one of this taking it apart, so I'm

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gonna have to review quickly. And what's interesting is asked

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AI to help me in the review, I said, AI, get,

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how can I break everything down? I basically said, here's

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episode one. I gave it episode one, and I said, okay,

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here's the best way to remind everyone of what you

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discussed in part one so that you can move on

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in part two. And I'm like, thank you artificial intelligence

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because my reviews go way, way, way too long.

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And artificial intelligence.

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So it's like, because you're a human and you don't

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know what to do. Okay, I'm okay, I didn't actually

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say that, but you get the idea. So let's remind

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everyone of what we did. So this is artificial intelligence

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versus lordship salvation. Now lordship salvation, whether people say they

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know what it is, even if they have ever heard

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of it, lordship salvation dominates the way most Christians believe

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about salvation. They may never have read MacArthur's book, doesn't matter.

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Church after church after church. They hold to a lordship

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salvation view, which I held to for most of my life.

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And what was the turning point for me. It's when

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I begin to study Catholicism and I realized lordship salvation

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is basically Catholicism, and then I begin to have a

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crisis of faith. Right, So we've talked about this and

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talked about this. So here's what we discussed in part one. Right,

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I basically asked everyone this question, what comes to mind

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when you hear the term lordship salvation. Now, some people

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support it, some people reject it, some people are neutral,

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some people have have no clue what they're talking about. No,

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What I find interesting is you ask some people about

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lordship salvation, they'll say, well, they may even say they

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disagree with it, they may even say they don't know

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what it is. Just start asking them questions about salvation.

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Inevitably it sounds like lordship's salvation. Because I think this

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is the reality. We talked about this in a long

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gospel series. Our default position is a works based, law

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based system. How that's our default way to go? It

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just is. So I asked that question. Then I gave

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everyone kind of an overview of my own personal journey

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with lordship salvation. How I stumbled upon MacArthur's book The

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Gospel according to Jesus, how I did everything I could

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to try to defend and promote that system, and how

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I ultimately came to our crisis of faith by studying

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Catholicism and realizing how foolish I had been. So what

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I'm attempting to do here is I'm trying to give

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a critical exploration of lordship Salvation, utilizing my own experience

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with Lordship Salvation. But mainly I want to show you

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how artificial intelligence analyzes and critiques lordship Salvation and some

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of the conclusion it comes to, right, because I think

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that's fascinating. All right, So I talked about my so

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so here are some of the my philological shift I

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begin to change my view from Lordship Salvation.

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And I kind of went through that entire history.

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I'm not going to go through all of that because

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many listening this morning, you've heard my entire story million times,

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so I'm not going to go through it all. So,

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but here is where I think things begin to get

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very very important here and to have this discussion.

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So here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to

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leave my notes here.

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I'm going to go back to AI here.

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I'm going to go back to AI.

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I'm going to go all the way back to the

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top here because this is where we started having to me,

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where things got very interesting.

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All right.

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So this is the way I approached it because I

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want to get everyone on the same pature.

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This is so important theologically.

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Instead of saying, Ai, what do you think about lordship salvation?

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Because of my thilological understanding, I knew that the issue

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between lordship salvation and non lordship salvation is not really

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an issue between lordship salvation and non lordship salvation. Right.

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The issue isn't about.

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Oh, there will be a change.

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No, the issue is what do you believe about being

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saved by imputed righteousness versus being saved by an infused righteousness?

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So I asked Ai this question.

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Isn't it accurate to say that the major difference between

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Catholicism and non Catholic Christianity is Catholicism teaches a salvation

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based on infused righteousness and non Catholics, for the most part,

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teach salvation based on an imputed righteousness. Ay, I said,

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that is a key theological distinction between Catholicism and many

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forms of non Catholic Christianity. All right, here's the breakdown

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of the concepts. Now, I'm going to go back and

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do a lot of review on this because this is

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the foundation. See, the minute you start talking about lordship salvation,

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people start off oh, you easy believism, anti noomia. They

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start accusing you of everything other than what the real

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issue is, because if they get to the discussion of

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the real issue, the entire system falls apart because either

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you accept the Catholic view or you reject the Catholic view.

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And if you reject the Catholic view, your lordship salvation

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crumbles in front of you if you are leaving remotely honest.

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So what is the issue?

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The issue is infused righteousness versus imputed righteousness. So what

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are the concepts of infused righteousness? This is the Catholic view,

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you're ready. Catholic theology teaches that righteousness is infused into

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the believer. Now, this is what would make Catholic Catholicism

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a little different through the sacraments, because they're sacramental Baptism

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obviously in a particular way, and it is sustained and

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increased through cooperation with God's grace, good works, and participates.

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Participation in the sacramental life. Salvation involves both God's grace

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and the believer's cooperation with that grace.

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It's a synergistic system. Right, Hey, God does this.

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But you have to do this and then it works

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together for salvation. This view, now listen, this is the

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key phrase. It's the key paragraph. The infused righteous view

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emphasizes an internal transformation where the person truly becomes righteous

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in a practical way over time. So in an infused righteousness,

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you are in fused with righteousness, so you become righteous

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in a practical way. It is about transformation. Please put

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that down. If you believe in infuse righteous you believe

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in transformation. You will be changed, You will be different. Why,

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because you've been infused with righteousness you have to be different.

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And then they see justification and sanctification as being interconnected. Wait, wait,

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what if there's no sanctification, then there was no justification.

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Why because sanctification proves your justification Because in justification you

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were infused with righteousness, so therefore it should be demonstrated

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in your sanctification. Please note that, because if you listen

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to that, that sounds just like Lordship's salvation right now.

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The actual Protestant view imputed righteousness non Catholic Christians, especially

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within supposedly reformed churches whatever, Okay, supposedly within reformed churches.

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Clearly in Lutheran churches, they teach that a righteousness. That

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righteousness is.

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Imputed to the believer.

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This means that the righteousness of Christ is credited to

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the believer's account through faith alone, not because of any

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inherent transformation or works. It's not about transformation, it's not

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about works. It's about God's righteousness is accredited to my account.

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It does not change me. It does not transform me,

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It does not do anything practically. It just changes my

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position before God. And now I'm declared to be that

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which I am not. In this view, salvation is viewed

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as a monargistic God alone accomplishes it, and justification is

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a one time declarative act of God where the believer

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is declared righteous even though they remain a sinner and practice.

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Let me state that again. If you believe in imputed salvation,

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a righteous based off in imputed righteousness. If you truly

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believe that, not just theoretically, but you truly believe that,

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then this is what you believe. A believer is declared

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righteous even though they remain a sinner and practice. If

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you believe in imputed righteousness, someone is declared righteous but

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they are still a sinner and practice. Now I know

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lordship will be like well, you'll sind less. How do

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you want to how do you measure that sin less?

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According to what? If you're guilty at one point of

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the law, you're guilty of all. So how do you

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mant I sin less? I'm guilty of all points of

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the law at all times. Be holy as God is holy?

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Are you ever doing that?

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No? Therefore you're in a perpetual status sin. Like if

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you believe in imputed righteousness, you know that you are

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in a perpetual state of sin. Trying to say you

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sin more or sin less is a subjective measurement based

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on you creating a list of which sins you can

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and can't commit, which is basically going back to Catholicism

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with a list of mortal and venial sins and just think,

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and I'll go ahead and say this, and imputed righteousness.

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Make it very clear, sanctification cannot prove imputed righteousness. Nothing

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can prove imputed righteousness because it's imputed. It's simply credited

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to your account. If someone believes you can't prove imputed

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righteousness because it doesn't produce righteousness, it just declares you

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to be that which you were not. All right, So

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that is the big difference there. That is the big distinction.

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We have to emphasize that. Okay, so I wanted to

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spend time definitely reviewing that. I want to definitely take

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the time to take that apart. All right, So here

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is some kind of a and I'm going to go

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through this quickly. I'm going to go through this fast.

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You've got to make sure you know that. So make

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sure you just know imputed versus infused. And I will

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argue if you believe and imputed. If the Lordship Salvation

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begins to start, you already start having problems. You're going

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to have to play a lot of silly verbal games

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to try to make it work because you're going to

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really revert back to an infused righteous understanding. So we

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kind of gave in the last episode kind of a

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philological analysis of Lordships Salvation. We talked about infused versus imputed,

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righteousness infused Catholicism, righteousness is infused, Salvation is syenergicent.

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We talked about all of that.

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Okay, Now, Lordship Salvation's contradictions are contradiction. Lordship claims to

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affirm imputed righteousness, and this is what AI says, but

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it emphasizes works as a proof of salvation, effectively aligning

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itself with infused righteousness.

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I want you to hear that again. AI says.

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That lordship salvation they claim, they claim to emphasize to

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affirm imputed right or infused righteous or imputed righteousness. Let

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me state that again, lordship claims to affirm imputed righteousness.

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If you talk to anyone who holds to lordship salvation,

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anyone who goes to a lordship salvation type church, or

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even if they don't go to a lordship salvation type church,

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you hear them talk about salvation, it's very a lordship

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way of thinking.

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They will affirm you.

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Are saved by imputed righteousness. However, they will then emphasize that,

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how do you prove someone's salvation by works? The minute

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they say someone's salvation is proved by works, they effectively,

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this is what AI says, effectively.

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Aligns themselves with infused righteousness.

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AI knows that the minute you say, oh, works prove

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someone's salvation, you are denying imputed righteousness and you're returning

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to an infused righteous idea, which is Roman Catholicism. That's

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why I forget what AI says. I have said it

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or forget what I say, listen to AI. Whichever one

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you want to listen to. AI knows better than I do.

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But I have been saying.

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Way before AI that look, if you're going to go

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to and a lordship idea, then why go to some

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fake Catholic church. Go to a Catholic church. Don't go

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to some Protestant church where you're like, oh, we believe

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in reform theology.

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No, you don't.

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You are denying the very Reformation, and you're going back

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to the very enemy of the Reformation, which is the

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Catholic Church, because you're holding to.

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So then I asked AI to critique lordship salvation. First,

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it says lordship salvation is guilty of circular reasoning. Lordship

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says works don't save you, but they prove your salvation,

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which creates a functional dependence on works. Hey, works don't

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save you, but you have works to prove your salvation,

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meaning I have to have works in order to be saved.

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So it's a works based system and it's circular reasoning

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in the which is a logical fallacy. It undermines assurance

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by making salvation contingent on a subjective performance. How can

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you know you're saved? Well, you got to do this

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and you got to do that. Well, how do I

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know if I've done enough? How many works? What kind

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of works? When do I know I've done enough? I

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can't even be sure until I get all the way

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to the end of my life and hopefully I can

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look back and I've got enough works that proved that

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I was saved. Well, that's subjective. That means you can

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never know for sure if you're saved. It blurs the

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line between law and gospel. The lordship Salvation treats the

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Gospel as a new form of law. By tying assurance

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to obedience, it destroys the Gospel. It takes the Gospel

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and turns it into a law. Hey, if you believe

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you'll do this, and you'll do this, and you'll do this,

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and you do this and you don't do this, then

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you didn't believe. Therefore you're not saved. Therefore you have

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to do this in order to be saved. Lordship Salvation

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will claim monargism. However, the emphasis on works makes salvation

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feel contingent on human effort. Not only that, it's similar

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to Catholic theology conditional assurance and the intertwining of justification

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and sanctification is Catholicism. It merges justification and sanctification because

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sanctification becomes the proof of justification. You can't really have

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assurance because you don't know if you're going to have

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enough works to prove that you're saved. Basically, it's Roman

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Catholicism disguised. So Ai then AI affirm the critique of

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lordship salvation. It recognized its practical alignment with Catholicism. AI

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recognize lordship's practical alignment with Catholicism. AI highlighted the inconsistency

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between lordship's and imputed righteousness. Ai Ai raised the following

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points that Protestant sermons emphasized transformation, resembling infused righteousness. Every

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Protestant sermons talks about being transformed, being changed, being a

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new creature. All of that is infused righteousness. AI pointed

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out that assurance is tied to works, which leads to

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doubt and a performance based mentality. And AI pointed out

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a proper understanding of imputed righteousness focuses entirely on Christ's work,

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not human effort. So AI pointed out all of that right,

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so AI then gave some discussion questions. I'm not going

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to go into those right now. AI then provided some

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challenges for lordship salvation for people who believe it. AI

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asked the question, this is these are questions AI asked

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as if someone as if it was talking to someone who.

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Believes in lordship salvation.

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If imputed righteousness declares believers righteousness despite their sin, how

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can works prove salvation? I've only been asking that question

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for I don't know ten years, but uh, hey, AI

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figures that out. Hey, if it imputed righteousness declares to

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someone to be righteous, then how can works prove salvation?

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Your works can't prove anything because you were declared righteous

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because of an imputed righteousness. How do you reconcile ongoing

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sin and believers with the claim that transformation is necessary

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evidence for salvation? AI's like, Hey, how do you reconcile

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the fact that we all continue to sin be holy

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as He is holy?

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You never do that.

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You're in a perpetual stat of sin. So how can

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then you say transformation is the proofs of salvation? Because

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then transformation would have to require almost some level of

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perfection or it would never approve anything. It would become subjective.

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AI then asked this question, how many works, what kind

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of works?

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How many and.

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What kind are sufficient to prove your salvation. AI then

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asked this question number four. Does tying assurance to work

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contradict the Reformation's emphasis on faith alone? If you would

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tie your assurance based on what you do or don't do,

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you're destroying faith alone, You're denying the entire Reformation. Then

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AI says, can you demonstrate a clear distinction between justification

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and sanctification and lordship salvation theology? If you hold the

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lordship salvation? Can you truly draw a distinction between justification

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and sanctification? And remember we talked about this, and I

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pointed out countless times that in practice we merge justification

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and sanctification just like Catholics do. Remember I talked about this,

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So remember I raised the question, maybe we should just

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go be Catholic since we already destroy the distinction between

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justification and sanctification. Because you destroy the distinction between justification

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and sanctification the minute you say sanctification is proof of

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your justification. You cannot prove justification by sanctification if you

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are justified by an imputed righteousness so therefore you've got

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to draw a distinction between the two. Now, so that's

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kind of just putting it all back together. That's putting

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it all back together, and that's not even a great review.

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I didn't even follow AI's outline from my review, because

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there was Ai even gave me too much to review.

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Probably there I skipped most of it. So I then

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started continuing to talk to Ai. I continue to talk

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to Ai about Lordship Salvation, and AI went on to

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say this, it would be fair and it would be

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accurate to describe Lordship's Salvation as a non Catholic form

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of Catholicism. AI says, hey, Lordship Salvation is a non

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Catholic form of Catholicism.

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That's the words it used.

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And they say it is true in this sense in

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terms of its functional theology. In other words, in theory,

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it may try to be as different as Catholicism is.

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Maybe sometimes when they preach, they'll try to show how

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different they are from Cathology, from Catholicism. But in there

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in it's practical, outworking. The theology is no, it's just

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simply Catholicism. It says, Lordship Salvation maintains Protestant terminology and

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denies Catholic doctrines explicitly. But the way it the way

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it ties works to salvation, resembles Catholic theology in several ways.

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And here's why this description works. So AI is going

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to justify saying that lordship salvation is a non Catholic

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form of Catholicism. This is AI say, I'm going to

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justify why this is an accurate description. Number one similarities

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and the role of works. Catholicism teaches that works, empowered

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by grace are necessary for salvation. Justification is a process

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involving faith, works and sacraments. That's what Catholicism teaches. Let

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me say it again, that works. It teaches that works

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are empowered by grace and they are necessary for salvation.

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Justification is a process involving faith, works and sacraments. Now

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you said, well, how does that How is that similar

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to lordship? Well, let's let AI tell us how it's similar.

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AI says, lordship denies that work save and it insists

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that works are necessary evidence of genuine faith, making them

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essential for assurance of salvation. So just like you have

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to have works in order to be saved in Catholicism. Well,

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in lordship salvation, you have to have works in order

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to prove your saved, meaning you have to have these

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works in order to be saved. It's the same thing.

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And both systems.

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Works are functionally indispensable, whether as a part of earning

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it or as proof of having it. But if you

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have to prove, if you have to have works in

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order to prove you have salvation, then you have to

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have works in order to be saved. So it's you're

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just playing a semantics game. You're just playing a verbal game.

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So the similarities when it comes to works and guess what,

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why do you have these works and lordship salvation. I mean,

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AI doesn't even get into this. But if you have

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to have these works, where where do the works arise from? Well,

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lordship salvation, even though they may not use the term,

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it's because of an infused righteousness. You would have to

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have an infused righteousness for the good works to show up. Right,

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the whole thing begins to fall apart. Conditional assurance, So

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this is a second problem. Catholicism teaches that assurance of

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salvation is conditional and tied to the believer's cooperation with grace,

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avoiding mortal sin, and remaining in a state of grace.

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Lordship salvation assurance is conditional, tied to a believer's visible

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fruit and obedience. If sufficient evidence of transformation is not present,

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doubts about salvation are warranted. And guess what, Hey, you've

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got to have enough works and guess what, lordship salvation

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will Hey, hey, you've got to prove your safe.

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And guess what.

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Some sins don't call into question your salvation. Ry, some

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sins don't some sense call into question your salvation. Oh wait,

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does that not sound like mortal and venial sin? Oh?

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Someone a teenager who saved?

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Who who struggles with heterosexual pornography or struggles with a fornication? Okay,

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that doesn't necessarily disprove their saved. But if that teenager

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struggles with homosexuality, Oh, then immediately they're not saved.

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Well what just happened? Well, because this one's mortal, these

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are venial. In that convenient.

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Lordship plays the same game. It's like, no those sins, Oh, pride, arrogance,

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self righteous, judgmental condemning. Oh that's okay. Oh, but if

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you commit this sin or this sin or this sin,

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you proved you were never saved, so just so who

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get At least in the Catholic Church, the church claims

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to have the authority to give you what is a

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mortal and venial sin? I guess. Within the Protestant lordship world,

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I guess each believer gets to determine what are the

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mortal and venial sins. The whole system is subjective and

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it's ridiculous. Next, another problem is the blurring of justification

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and sanctification and Catholicism, justification and sanctification are part of

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the same process where the believer becomes progressively righteous through

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cooperation with grace, lordship salvation. Though it claims to distinguish

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justification at one time act from sanctification a process, the

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heavy emphasis on obedience and transformation as evidence of salvation

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conflates the two end practice. See the minute you say

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your transformation proves your justification, then you are making justification

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sanctification and you're making scentification a proof of justification, which

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would mean your justification has to be based off an

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infused righteousness and not an imputed righteousness. You destroy the

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distinction between justification and sanctification, and for all practical purposes,

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you basically are a Catholic. The practical blurring undermines the

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Protestant doctrine of justification by faith alone, where righteousness is

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fully imputed to the believer apart from works.

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Remember, the Protestant.

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Teaching is God imputes your righteous his righteousness to your

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account apart from works. Works don't earn it, works don't

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prove it. Next philological and pastoral implications. Both systems risk

467
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leading believers into introspection and fear as they constantly evaluate

468
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their works and obedience to determine their standing before God.

469
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This focus shifts from the sufficiency of Christ's work to

470
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the believer's performance, creating a workspace mentality, even if it's unintentional. Well,

471
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because what are you looking to? You're not looking to

472
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the finished work of Christ. And you get these questions

473
00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:13.279
all the time in Protestant churches. How do I know

474
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I'm saved? How do I know I'm saved? How do

475
00:30:16.640 --> 00:30:21.400
look to Christ? That's how you know you're saved? Well,

476
00:30:21.559 --> 00:30:23.720
I do this, and I do this, and I struggle

477
00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:27.440
with this. None of that matters, because you're saved by

478
00:30:27.480 --> 00:30:30.480
what Christ did, not by what you do. What you

479
00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:33.319
do doesn't prove it. What you do doesn't earn it,

480
00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:36.640
what you do doesn't change it. You are either saved

481
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by the finished work of Jesus Christ or you are not.

482
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And if you're saved by the finished work of Jesus Christ,

483
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you look to his imputed righteousness and everything else is

484
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irrelevant as far as your salvation is concerned, as far

485
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as spiritual growth, as far as practical implications of sin

486
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and consequences, all of that has practical implications, but as

487
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far as your justification, you're justified because of what Christ.

488
00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:02.559
Did, not on the basis of what you do.

489
00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:04.960
And Christians love to sit around, well, I don't know

490
00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:06.720
if that person is saved because they did this and

491
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they did and I don't know if that person is saved, Yeah,

492
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because you think you're so wonderful and perfect because they're

493
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committing the mortal sins while you sit around in your

494
00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:19.279
self righteous, condemning attitude and you don't even see your

495
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own sin. So AI goes on to say, now I'm

496
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skipping some things because I'm trying to make us cover

497
00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:38.319
as much ground as possible. AI says this, This is

498
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a direct quote from artificial intelligence. The issue for lordship

499
00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:49.240
salvation is not Antiinomianism. The issue for lordship salvation is

500
00:31:49.319 --> 00:31:54.079
not easy believism. The issue for lordship salvation is not

501
00:31:54.480 --> 00:32:00.480
cheap grace, but rather the doctrine of salvation and by

502
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:05.359
imputed righteousness. Lordship salvation will try to argue the problem

503
00:32:05.400 --> 00:32:09.279
is Antinomianism. The problem is easy believism. The problem is

504
00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:12.279
cheap grace and ais like no, no, no, that's not

505
00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:16.799
your problem. Your problem is the doctrine of imputed righteousness.

506
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Let me state it again.

507
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Lordship salvation is the enemy of the doctrine of justification

508
00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:29.160
by imputed righteousness. It is the enemy. It denies imputed righteousness.

509
00:32:29.240 --> 00:32:34.200
It fights against the doctrine. It takes you away from

510
00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:36.960
looking to the imputed righteousness as assurance, so that you

511
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:39.640
have to look to your stink and self to somehow

512
00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:42.359
prove if you're saved by if you're good enough. And

513
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the only way you're good enough is you've got to

514
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go along with whatever lordship salvation people tell you you're

515
00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:48.599
supposed to do, and if you do what they tell

516
00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:50.759
you you're supposed to do, you're good enough. But they

517
00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:53.319
don't determine it. God determines it. And if you're going

518
00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:56.559
to look to works. God demands perfection, You're never gonna

519
00:32:56.599 --> 00:33:00.200
be it. So stop listening the Lordship Salvation because as

520
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they literally are the enemies of the doctrine of imputed righteousness.

521
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They are the enemy. They are no different than Catholicism.

522
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If you're gonna condemn Catholicism, you have to condemn lordship Salvation.

523
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:16.799
There is no neutrality here. If you accept lordship salvation,

524
00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:20.960
then do not condemn Catholicism. Don't tell me Catholics aren't saved.

525
00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:26.079
Then if your Lordship Salvation friends are saved, then Catholics

526
00:33:26.079 --> 00:33:26.480
are saved.

527
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Because it's the same system.

528
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No nobody's going to like that, but it is the

529
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same system in every practical way.

530
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Here's what Ai said.

531
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Imputed righteousness contradicts the core of lordship salvation. The doctrine

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00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:54.359
of imputed righteousness teaches that the believer is declared righteous

533
00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:58.119
before God solely on the basis of christ righteousness, which

534
00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:03.160
is credited to their account by faith. Lordship salvation insists

535
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that salvation must be accompanied by a life of visible

536
00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:10.760
obedience and works to validate that faith. This shifts the

537
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:13.920
focus from the sufficiency of Christ imputed righteousness to the

538
00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:18.639
believer sanctification as evidence of justification. The problem is is

539
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that lordship salvation struggles to fully accept that justification is

540
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a complete and final act at the moment of faith,

541
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regardless of the believer's subsequent works or level of sanctification.

542
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At the moment of faith, you are declared perfectly righteous.

543
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It's done, it's finished. There's no going back saying wait, wait, wait, wait,

544
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you didn't do this, you're not doing this, you're doing this,

545
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you're struggling with this. None of that matters because you

546
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were declared righteous at the moment of faith. You can't

547
00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:47.760
come back and say, well, I know you believed, but

548
00:34:48.159 --> 00:34:49.559
you didn't do this and this and this and this,

549
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and if you really would have believed, then this would

550
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have changed. Well why would have this had changed the

551
00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:56.760
moment I believed unless I was infused with righteousness. But

552
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I wasn't infused with righteousness because I was declared to

553
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be that which I'm not, which is the entire doctrine

554
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of imputed righteousness. So imputed righteousness contradicts the core of

555
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lordship salvation. I can't state that enough. It literally contradicts

556
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the core of lordship salvation. Contradicts imputed righteousness. Number two.

557
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Another problem is it misdiagnoses. The problem see Antiinomianism is

558
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the rejection of moral law. Easy believism and cheap grace

559
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are often used as straw men by Lordship Salvation advocates.

560
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These terms imply that any teaching emphasizing salvation by grace

561
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alone through faith alone will inevitably lead to moral laxity

562
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or a disregard for holiness. However, the doctrine of imputed

563
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righteousness does not lead to antinomianism. It teaches that good

564
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works flow from at a gratitude for God's grace, not

565
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as a requirement to prove salva. The real tension for

566
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lordship Salvation is that imputed righteousness renders any demand for

567
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works or obedience as proof of salvation unnecessary and philologically inconsistent.

568
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Believing in imputed righteousness does not make you an Antinomian.

569
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Believing a salvation by imputed righteousness does not make you

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someone who believes in easy believism or believes in cheap grace.

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And anyone who says that it's.

572
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Just a lie, it's just a straight up life, it's

573
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a mischaracterization.

574
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It's a straw man.

575
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It's attacking people on the basis of complete ignorance. No,

576
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you know what it is, it's actually attacking people. You're

577
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not attacking people, You're attacking the doctrine of imputed righteousness.

578
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That's your issue. Take it up with imputed righteousness now again.

579
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I got no problem if you want to say, hey,

580
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we need to reevaluate the doctrine of imputed right now,

581
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I'm willing to have this conversation. Let's see if the

582
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doctrine of imputed righteousness is wrong, maybe the Bible actually

583
00:37:03.559 --> 00:37:07.199
teaches infused righteousness, So maybe we need to reject the

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entire Reformation, reject imputed righteousness, return to an infused righteous mindset.

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And if you can prove that, then I'll be like,

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you know what I think at this point, we just

587
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go back to Catholicism and we'll just go join a

588
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Catholic church and be good Catholics. I'm not going to

589
00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:26.960
go play games in your little fake Catholic church claiming

590
00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:29.719
to be a Protestant church when you're no more Protestant

591
00:37:29.800 --> 00:37:42.400
than the pope. Lordship Salvation reintroduces a works based framework

592
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by making works a necessary proof of salvation. Lordship Salvation

593
00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:50.039
undermines the very nature of imputed righteousness, which declares the

594
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believer fully righteous in Christ, regardless of their personal performance.

595
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Make sure you if you believe in imputed righteousness, you

596
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are perfectly righteous. It doesn't matter what you do, it

597
00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:04.199
doesn't change the imputed right it was imputed to your account.

598
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You're perfectly righteous no matter what you do. I know

599
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Christians hate hearing that, but if you believe in imputed righteousness,

600
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that's the way it works. See, the demand for works

601
00:38:16.239 --> 00:38:19.719
effectively shifts the focus from christ righteousness to the believer's behavior.

602
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And this reintroduces a functional works based element into salvation.

603
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And that's exactly what happens. You end up in a

604
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works based system. So AI says, Hey, look, lordship salvation

605
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is basically the problem with lordship salvation is not Antiinomianism.

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It's not any of these other things. The issue with

607
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lordship salvation is imputed righteousness. Why is this so Because

608
00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:57.280
imputed righteousness contradicts the core of lordship salvation. Because lordship

609
00:38:57.320 --> 00:39:01.159
salvation misdiagnoses the problem when it's not Antinomianism. It is

610
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not any of this issue. It's imputed righteousness. Lordship Salvation

611
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reintroduces a workspace framework which is at odds with imputed righteousness.

612
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Number four, Assurance becomes dependent on sanctification. The doctrine of

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imputed righteousness provides assurance because it rests solely on Christ's

614
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finished work see imputed richness. My assurance is Christ's perfection

615
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the end. What's your assurance in Salvation?

616
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Christ?

617
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What's your assurance that you're going to heaven?

618
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Christ?

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What's your assurance you're not going to hell?

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Christ? What's your assurance that you're saved? Christ?

621
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:40.719
Well? What about these passages that say works? Christ? Did

622
00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:44.960
those works for me? If that's not my proof, and

623
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I have to start looking to myself, I'm going to hell.

624
00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:49.119
You're going to hell if you're even remotely honest with

625
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yourself unless you create a mortal venial list.

626
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Lordship.

627
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Salvation ties assurance to the believer's sanctification, specific their ability

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to demonstrate fruit and obedience. This creates a subjective and

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unstable foundation for assurance, which is at odds with objective

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reality of imputed righteousness. See It objectively denies the reality

631
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of imputed righteousness by saying this, prove this, prove this.

632
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Here's the test here's the test.

633
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Here's the test, meaning then the imputed righteousness becomes it

634
00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:31.440
doesn't even matter anything in a practical sense. AI says,

635
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the real issue, here's the real issue. The real issue

636
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is a failure to trust Christ's work. Lordship's salvation is

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ultimately uncomfortable with the radical nature of grace. It seeks

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to safeguard holiness by adding conditions are proofs, but in

639
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so doing so, it undermines the sufficiency of Christ imputed righteousness.

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The doctrine of imputed righteousness declares that salvation is entirely

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a gift received by faith, and it cannot be measured

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or proven by the believer's performance. This is a stumbling

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block to lordship salvation. It falls apart, ladies and gentlemen.

644
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Lordship salvation is based off an infused righteousness mentality. It

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00:41:34.360 --> 00:41:38.559
just is, and imputed righteousness destroys it. And the issue

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with lordship salvation it's not Antinomianism. It's not all the

647
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accusations they throw.

648
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At people, usually believism, cheap grace.

649
00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:48.880
Oh, while you picked up some cliches, you picked up

650
00:41:48.920 --> 00:41:52.239
some slogans. I'm so glad you can repeat slogans. But

651
00:41:52.320 --> 00:42:01.239
it's nowhere. Your issue is imputed righteousness. So AI goes

652
00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:10.599
on to say, this Lordship Salvation operates on certain assumptions,

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and it assumes that believers. Now this is an assumption

654
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built into Lordship Salvation that a believer has the ability

655
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to live in obedience to God's commands, which can be

656
00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:34.920
problematic when you examine this biblically and when you examine

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this in light of reality. Here's a breakdown of the

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core assumptions and why they should raise theological concerns. So

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now Ai is going to be like, look, if you

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look at if you look at Lordship Salvation, it has

661
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a basic assumption, and the basic assumption is.

662
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You can do it.

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You can obey the law, you can keep it. You

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can do it. And AI's like, when you look at

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this biblically, that doesn't make any sense. And when you

666
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look at it reality, come on, even AI knows that

667
00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:04.719
we don't keep the law. Even AI knows you, come on,

668
00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:06.880
you don't keep the law of God. You're out of

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00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:14.920
your mind. So here's the first assumption, Ai says, Lordship

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Salvation teaches that Christians can keep the law. Lordship Salvation's

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assumption believe believe assumption says that believers can obey God's

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law sufficiently to demonstrate their salvation. Now, please note the

673
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game Lordship Salvation plays there. It doesn't say that you

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can obey the law perfectly. Lordship Salvation will try to

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play the game. You can obey the law sufficiently to

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prove your salvation. But what is the sufficient amount to

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00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:49.280
prove yourselfage sont Ai. Lordship Salvation knows well, ultimately, you

678
00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:53.239
can't keep the law perfectly, but you can keep it sufficiently.

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So there's a sufficient amount of things you must do

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in order to prove your safe But this is a problem. Right.

681
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I'll give you two passages that show you this as

682
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a problem. First, John chapter three, Nicodemus. He's described as

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a righteous man, a man that would meticulously try to

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keep the law. He would have been outwardly righteous, didn't

685
00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:17.400
prove his salvation, meaning you can have a certain level

686
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of outward righteous righteousness even though you're not saved. Right,

687
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when we go to John chapter three and we read

688
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about Nicodemus, there was a man, there was a man

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of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews.

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And when you learn about Nicodemus, and you learn about

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the Pharisees. They were meticulous and trying to keep every

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letter of the law, every jot and tittel. Do this,

693
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don't do this, don't go here, don't eat this, don't

694
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do this, don't do this, don't do that. They had

695
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an outward form of righteousness, meaning that a lost person,

696
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a completely unredject, de generate person, can have a certain

697
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:10.559
level of morality outwardly that can be achieved without salvation. Therefore, then,

698
00:45:10.599 --> 00:45:12.880
out then, how are you going to then prove that

699
00:45:12.960 --> 00:45:16.079
the outward works prove salvation when there's a certain level

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of outward morality that even a lost person can achieve

701
00:45:20.039 --> 00:45:22.960
Matthew Chapter seven, Lord Lord, didn't we do this? Didn't

702
00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:25.000
we do this? Didn't we do this? Depart from me?

703
00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:29.800
I never knew you outward proof? No? So then so

704
00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:32.719
then a lordship is like, well, you can't do it perfectly,

705
00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:36.320
but you can do it sufficiently. So how much outward

706
00:45:36.719 --> 00:45:39.239
works then is sufficient to prove salvation?

707
00:45:40.840 --> 00:45:41.920
Why is it? Why is it?

708
00:45:41.960 --> 00:45:45.639
Why? Why are we watering down the requirement? God demands

709
00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:49.320
be holy as I am holy. God demands be perfect

710
00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:51.800
ause I am perfect? Why does lordship, come along a wall.

711
00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:53.119
You know you can.

712
00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:54.199
You can keep the law.

713
00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:56.280
You can't keep it perfectly, but you can keep it

714
00:45:56.320 --> 00:46:02.280
sufficiently to prove your salvation. So in efficient obedience, it's

715
00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:06.760
proof of salvation. That makes no sense. If you're going

716
00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:11.760
to make proof required, then if you're going to make

717
00:46:11.800 --> 00:46:15.079
works as proof, then you would have to demand perfect works.

718
00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:19.880
The whole thing falls apart, all right, and again to

719
00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:23.039
obey the law sufficiently. I don't even know what that means.

720
00:46:23.480 --> 00:46:24.159
Ai says.

721
00:46:24.199 --> 00:46:27.440
Scripture is clear that even after salvation, believers continue to

722
00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:30.480
struggle with sin. The law reveals our inability in a

723
00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:33.199
meet God's standard, driving us to rely on Christ righteousness

724
00:46:33.280 --> 00:46:37.960
not around. So even Ai says, look, the Bible clearly

725
00:46:38.119 --> 00:46:41.239
demonstrates that we're still going to be living in sin

726
00:46:41.400 --> 00:46:49.280
even as a believer. If perfect this is what Ai says,

727
00:46:49.559 --> 00:46:57.480
If perfect or near perfect lawkeeping were possible, there would

728
00:46:57.519 --> 00:47:03.480
be no need for christ imputed righteousness. If you can

729
00:47:03.519 --> 00:47:07.079
do it, then you don't need imputed righteousness. Now, the

730
00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:10.800
fact that lordship believes that you can even do near

731
00:47:11.719 --> 00:47:14.480
you can do sufficient works to prove it, then they

732
00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:16.960
have to believe in infused righteousness, because how else are

733
00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:18.960
you able to produce these works? Unless you're just saying

734
00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:22.280
anybody can produce a near sufficient level of works. Well,

735
00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:24.960
if you can produce a near level sufficient a level

736
00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:28.039
of works even without an infused righteousness, then meaning you

737
00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:29.760
can do it on your own or is it God

738
00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:31.639
doing it in you? And if God's doing it in you,

739
00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:33.320
then why can't God get you to perfection?

740
00:47:33.599 --> 00:47:34.440
So the whole thing.

741
00:47:34.320 --> 00:47:36.880
Falls apart Logically, if God is the one getting you

742
00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:40.400
to near sufficient works to prove your salvation, why would

743
00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:43.360
God only get you to near sufficient or sufficient? Why

744
00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:45.960
would he not get you to perfection? Then that means

745
00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:47.840
God doesn't want you to be perfect. If God doesn't

746
00:47:47.840 --> 00:47:50.119
want you to be perfect, then why do you get

747
00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:52.400
upset when people say because God is the one who

748
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:55.760
doesn't want someone to be perfect? The whole thing because

749
00:47:55.800 --> 00:47:58.320
they just fall up. It makes no sense. And the

750
00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:00.960
more you it's like the more you pull one string,

751
00:48:01.239 --> 00:48:09.280
it just everything begins to unravel. The second assumption that

752
00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:13.159
let Lordship's Salvation makes is that Christians can love God

753
00:48:13.239 --> 00:48:16.760
with all their heart, soul, and mind. Lordship Salvation teaches

754
00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:21.400
that believers can love God fully and without reservation, demonstrating

755
00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:28.199
their salvation by their devotion. AI says, here's the problem.

756
00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:34.360
The Greatest Commandment sets an impossibly high standard that no

757
00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:40.840
believer fulfills perfectly. Even the most devout Christian falls short

758
00:48:40.880 --> 00:48:43.320
and loving God as they should. This is why salvation

759
00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:46.880
must rest on Christ's perfect love for the Father, not

760
00:48:47.119 --> 00:48:50.960
on our love for the Father. AI knows we can't

761
00:48:51.039 --> 00:48:51.360
do it.

762
00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:53.960
Why does Lordship Salvation believe.

763
00:48:53.719 --> 00:49:00.679
That we can. You've got to be delusional. The third

764
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:04.079
assumption Lordship Salvation makes is that Christians can be holy

765
00:49:04.440 --> 00:49:09.159
as God is holy. Believers can achieve a level of

766
00:49:09.159 --> 00:49:12.480
personal holiness that reflects God's holiness and prove their salvation.

767
00:49:12.559 --> 00:49:16.800
That's what Lordship Salvation teaches, as that believers can achieve

768
00:49:16.840 --> 00:49:19.599
a level of personal holiness that reflects god holiness and

769
00:49:19.679 --> 00:49:23.360
prove their salvation. The problem, according to AI, is the

770
00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:25.960
command to be holy as I am holy reflects God's

771
00:49:25.960 --> 00:49:32.360
perfect standard, which no human being can achieve in this life.

772
00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:38.320
While sanctification evolves growth, believers will always fall short. AI says, hey,

773
00:49:38.360 --> 00:49:41.239
we can't do AI says, you can't do it. Lordship

774
00:49:41.280 --> 00:49:43.280
says you can. AI's like you're out of your mind.

775
00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:52.239
It's amazing. That AI can be more honest. A fourth

776
00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:56.039
assumption that Lordship Salvation makes is that works can be

777
00:49:56.079 --> 00:50:01.119
pure and uncorrupted enough to prove salvation. Lordship self assumes

778
00:50:01.320 --> 00:50:04.320
the works of a true believer are sufficiently pure and

779
00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:08.840
untainted by sin to serve as evidence of salvation. Here's

780
00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:12.840
the theological problem. Even the best works of believers are

781
00:50:12.840 --> 00:50:16.679
still imperfect and tainted by sin Isaiah sixty four to six,

782
00:50:17.119 --> 00:50:21.559
Romans seven eighteen. The idea that human works can prove

783
00:50:21.599 --> 00:50:25.719
salvation misunderstands the ongoing presence of sin and the believer's life,

784
00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:30.000
and elevates human effort over God's grace. AI's like, look,

785
00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:33.480
even your best works are tainted, even your good works

786
00:50:33.519 --> 00:50:36.760
are corrupted. So how could your works have reproved salvation?

787
00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:40.559
Because your works are never pure. Lordship Salvation says, your

788
00:50:40.599 --> 00:50:44.480
works are pure enough to prove your salvation. That's ridiculous.

789
00:50:44.239 --> 00:50:46.800
That means you almost have to deny the existence of

790
00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:50.559
You cannot say that and believe that people. Here's ultimately

791
00:50:50.559 --> 00:50:52.760
what Lordship Salvation is going to do. You've got to

792
00:50:52.840 --> 00:50:57.280
reject imputed righteousness, and you've got to reject the idea

793
00:50:57.320 --> 00:51:00.320
that a Christian still has a sinful nature, because if

794
00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:02.880
you believe that Christians still have a sinful nature, then

795
00:51:02.880 --> 00:51:05.719
you would have to assume that every work that we

796
00:51:05.800 --> 00:51:08.880
do is corrupted in some way, shape or form by

797
00:51:08.920 --> 00:51:09.840
that sinful nature.

798
00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:12.239
Since our works arise from within us.

799
00:51:12.519 --> 00:51:15.440
Unless you're saying now, just an external work, without even

800
00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:18.400
being connected to an internal reality, can prove your salvation,

801
00:51:18.599 --> 00:51:25.679
the whole thing falls apart. Ai said, here's the flaw

802
00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:29.679
and these assumptions, these assumptions overestimate the believer's ability to

803
00:51:29.679 --> 00:51:32.639
meet God's standard in this life. They shift the focus

804
00:51:32.639 --> 00:51:36.119
from christ finished work and imputed righteousness to the believer's end,

805
00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:40.440
perfect and incomplete sanctification. By holding believers to a standard

806
00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:46.920
they cannot meet. Lordships, salvation inadvertently reintroduces a form of

807
00:51:47.039 --> 00:51:52.639
work's righteousness, undermining the doctrine of justification by faith alone.

808
00:51:54.039 --> 00:51:59.000
And here's what Ai says, here's a biblical perspective. Salvation

809
00:51:59.199 --> 00:52:02.639
is entirely based on Christ's perfect obedience, death, and resurrection,

810
00:52:03.039 --> 00:52:07.119
which are credited to the believer by faith.

811
00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:08.320
I want you to hear that again.

812
00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:17.360
Ai says, salvation is entirely based on Christ's perfect obedience, death,

813
00:52:17.360 --> 00:52:20.679
and resurrection. And this is credited to the believer.

814
00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:23.800
While good works and growth.

815
00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:26.239
In holiness are evidence of God's ongoing work in a

816
00:52:26.280 --> 00:52:31.679
believer's life, they are not the basis or proof of salvation.

817
00:52:32.679 --> 00:52:35.519
Good works are great, Good works are about growth. Good

818
00:52:35.519 --> 00:52:37.519
works may be showing what God may or may not

819
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:39.719
be doing inside a believer, because even then trying to

820
00:52:39.800 --> 00:52:42.800
understand those works. But they are not proof of salvation.

821
00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:48.519
They are not because you can't prove imputed righteousness.

822
00:52:48.559 --> 00:52:54.599
I've been saying this a million times. Third thing Ai

823
00:52:54.679 --> 00:52:57.159
says is a biblical perspective. Believers are called to strive

824
00:52:57.239 --> 00:53:00.199
for holiness, but the striving is always a company by

825
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:03.880
an acknowledgment of dependent on God's grace and an ongoing

826
00:53:03.880 --> 00:53:09.519
acknowledgment that we still sin and will continue to sin.

827
00:53:20.360 --> 00:53:24.119
I cannot stress enough. I'm fat and this and just

828
00:53:24.199 --> 00:53:27.800
to remind everyone, and I talked about this in part one.

829
00:53:28.440 --> 00:53:32.599
The fascinating thing about this is this the way we

830
00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:34.639
ended up in this way I ended up in.

831
00:53:34.639 --> 00:53:36.599
This conversation, are we now since you're a part of it.

832
00:53:36.639 --> 00:53:40.079
This conversation with Ai in regards to this subject is

833
00:53:40.159 --> 00:53:44.119
Ai was reviewing a sermon on James two fourteen through

834
00:53:44.119 --> 00:53:48.960
twenty six and AI was kind of like, uh, there's

835
00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:52.159
some problems here, right, And as soon as it started

836
00:53:52.199 --> 00:53:55.400
describing the problems, I was like, whoa wait a minute,

837
00:53:56.199 --> 00:53:59.000
AI is arguing against lordship salvation.

838
00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:01.199
Is this fascinating?

839
00:54:01.440 --> 00:54:04.039
So then I'm was like, okay, well, before I can

840
00:54:04.119 --> 00:54:08.280
have AI critique lordship Salvation, we have to first draw

841
00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:12.760
a distinction between infused imputed righteousness. Now this is where

842
00:54:12.800 --> 00:54:15.880
my theological knowledge helps me have the conversation with AI,

843
00:54:16.159 --> 00:54:18.519
because you've got to know the difference between infused and

844
00:54:18.519 --> 00:54:21.119
imputed righteousness. And I think if you talk to a

845
00:54:21.159 --> 00:54:25.400
lot of Christians, they say they believe in imputed righteousness,

846
00:54:25.400 --> 00:54:27.159
but then when they start talking, they clearly believe in

847
00:54:27.159 --> 00:54:32.280
an infused righteousness. I think most Christians are completely confused

848
00:54:32.400 --> 00:54:33.320
over the difference.

849
00:54:33.719 --> 00:54:36.199
Now, once you establish that difference.

850
00:54:36.760 --> 00:54:42.920
Here's infused, here's imputed. Once you understand that difference, then

851
00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:49.400
lordship Salvation is in trouble. And what ticks me off is, well,

852
00:54:49.480 --> 00:54:53.880
I believed in Lordship's salvation. This really just irritates me

853
00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:57.519
to know when when I believed in lordship salvation, I

854
00:54:57.639 --> 00:55:02.760
criticize Catholicism. I condemn Catholicism well, I believed a system

855
00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:04.960
that was more in line with Catholicism. But I was

856
00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:07.679
condemning Catholicism based off all the stuff that you know,

857
00:55:07.719 --> 00:55:10.719
you always hear you're supposed to condemn Catholicism about right,

858
00:55:11.280 --> 00:55:17.000
you know, the magisterium, people infallibility, you know Mary, you

859
00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:20.400
know the Merriam dogmas, you know all these different things,

860
00:55:20.519 --> 00:55:25.119
purgatory praying to the saints, just on all that typical

861
00:55:25.159 --> 00:55:28.119
stuff that we condemn, you know, Catholicism for.

862
00:55:29.599 --> 00:55:29.800
Right.

863
00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:34.920
Oh well, it's Catholicism is ancient Babylonian religion brought back

864
00:55:35.119 --> 00:55:37.800
all the stuff you want to just say. That's that's

865
00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:40.320
where I went. And then finally I started realizing some

866
00:55:40.360 --> 00:55:42.199
of those claims, some of the claims were already a

867
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:44.599
little fraudulent or questionable. And then when I'm like, well,

868
00:55:44.639 --> 00:55:47.559
I'm going to study Catholicism so that I can better

869
00:55:47.559 --> 00:55:50.480
critique Catholicism. Then I had no idea that what I

870
00:55:50.559 --> 00:55:54.480
was walking into was really a critique of lordship salvation,

871
00:55:54.719 --> 00:55:57.800
because I found myself going, wait a minute, this is

872
00:55:57.880 --> 00:56:10.119
lordship salvation to the letter. If you believe in imputed righteousness,

873
00:56:10.679 --> 00:56:15.800
lordship salvation falls apart now if you believe infused righteousness,

874
00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:20.760
lordship salvation makes perfect sense. Lordship salvation is the enemy

875
00:56:20.760 --> 00:56:24.960
of imputed righteousness. Even though their supporters would say no, no, no, no, no,

876
00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:29.119
no no, but I'm telling you it doesn't work. If

877
00:56:29.159 --> 00:56:33.360
someone is declared righteous by faith alone, and they are

878
00:56:33.360 --> 00:56:38.199
declared righteous because God credits his perfection to that person,

879
00:56:40.760 --> 00:56:43.920
there's no proof of that. There's no way to challenge that.

880
00:56:43.960 --> 00:56:47.599
There's no way to question that. The issue is do

881
00:56:47.760 --> 00:56:53.719
you believe? Are you trusting in Christ alone? Because action

882
00:56:53.960 --> 00:56:58.199
can't prove that. I can't show you imputed righteousness. Show

883
00:56:58.239 --> 00:57:01.679
me your imputed righteousness, can't show you if you want,

884
00:57:02.079 --> 00:57:04.840
I guess I could do this. Show me your imputed righteousness.

885
00:57:05.880 --> 00:57:14.440
Here's a Bible, and go read everything about Jesus. He

886
00:57:14.559 --> 00:57:19.760
was tempted in all points, yet without sin, he was holy,

887
00:57:20.039 --> 00:57:23.519
he was perfect, he was righteous, he was obedient, he

888
00:57:23.599 --> 00:57:29.159
fulfilled the Father's will, he loved God. There's my imputity

889
00:57:29.199 --> 00:57:31.440
if you want, if you want proof of my imputed righteousness,

890
00:57:31.440 --> 00:57:35.559
go look at Jesus. Everything he did is now credited

891
00:57:35.599 --> 00:57:37.800
to me. Therefore, that's the only proof I can get.

892
00:57:37.840 --> 00:57:40.199
I can't give you proof on what I do because

893
00:57:40.599 --> 00:57:42.599
Christ doing all of those things and crediting it to

894
00:57:42.639 --> 00:57:46.039
my account, don't it doesn't make me do those things.

895
00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:50.079
And I know that goes against everything the Evangelical, Protestant,

896
00:57:50.159 --> 00:57:51.119
fundamentalist world.

897
00:57:52.039 --> 00:57:55.360
It's all about change, change, change, it's all about moralism.

898
00:57:55.559 --> 00:57:57.679
Do this, don't do this, do this, don't do this,

899
00:57:57.719 --> 00:57:59.679
do this, don't do this, do this, don't do this,

900
00:57:59.800 --> 00:58:02.320
do this, don't do this. Do more of this. Read

901
00:58:02.360 --> 00:58:05.159
your Bible more, pray more, go to church more, get

902
00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:08.159
more money, do this, do that, do this, do that,

903
00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:15.559
do this. It's all about that. And so if you

904
00:58:15.679 --> 00:58:20.119
if you emphasize imputed righteousness, that kind of scares them.

905
00:58:19.440 --> 00:58:23.599
Oh cheap grace easy believe is the anti nomian. Oh

906
00:58:24.320 --> 00:58:26.639
oh oh you don't care, You don't care about living

907
00:58:26.679 --> 00:58:33.320
out the Christian life, because they panic, They don't.

908
00:58:33.519 --> 00:58:34.639
They don't know what to do with that.

909
00:58:35.440 --> 00:58:38.239
But if the whole thing falls apart, and isn't it

910
00:58:38.440 --> 00:58:44.400
fascinating that AI is able to point out all of

911
00:58:44.480 --> 00:58:48.079
these errors, That to me is the reason we're We've

912
00:58:48.119 --> 00:58:49.639
talked about a lot of this stuff. But what I

913
00:58:49.760 --> 00:58:51.719
want you to see from all of this is that

914
00:58:51.880 --> 00:58:54.840
AI is able to go this whole thing falls apart,

915
00:58:56.360 --> 00:59:01.000
whole thing is inconsistent. If if now, if I asked

916
00:59:01.079 --> 00:59:07.840
Ai to defend and give me the arguments from salvation,

917
00:59:08.719 --> 00:59:13.679
if we accept infused righteousness as the right way of thinking,

918
00:59:14.119 --> 00:59:16.599
well then it will be able to defend lordship salvation.

919
00:59:17.079 --> 00:59:20.239
But it knows that lordship salvation is really incompatible with

920
00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:28.000
an imputed righteous view because it contradicts it. It's inconsistent

921
00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:31.800
with it, it's incompatible with it. And even Ai acknowledges

922
00:59:31.880 --> 00:59:35.719
that basically lordship salvation is a non Catholic form of Catholicism,

923
00:59:37.800 --> 00:59:40.519
and I know that makes everyone so mad. Ai goes

924
00:59:40.559 --> 00:59:42.239
on to say, we don't have time to get into

925
00:59:42.320 --> 00:59:45.159
this now. Ai goes on to say, lordship Salvation fails

926
00:59:45.199 --> 00:59:48.840
to maintain a proper distinction between law and gospel, which

927
00:59:48.920 --> 00:59:55.840
is a crucial principle in biblical theology. And remember when

928
00:59:55.840 --> 00:59:58.760
I got into the whole discussion about long Gospel. That's

929
00:59:58.800 --> 01:00:02.519
when people get really in servis. But you maintain a

930
01:00:02.559 --> 01:00:05.159
proper distinction between law and gospel. I think the only

931
01:00:05.199 --> 01:00:09.440
way you can even understand your Bible if if you're

932
01:00:09.519 --> 01:00:14.320
going to view it from a Protestant perspective, from an imputed.

933
01:00:14.519 --> 01:00:17.880
If you believe in imputed righteousness, you have to maintain

934
01:00:17.920 --> 01:00:20.639
the law gospel distinction. Because when I see a passion

935
01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:22.519
that says do this, do this, do this, do this,

936
01:00:23.239 --> 01:00:25.079
it's telling me to do this to show me that

937
01:00:25.159 --> 01:00:25.760
I can't do it.

938
01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:27.920
So then I run to Christ, which did it?

939
01:00:28.320 --> 01:00:38.039
Law says do? Gospel says done. Now if I destroy

940
01:00:38.199 --> 01:00:41.400
that proper law gospel distinction, now the law is like,

941
01:00:41.800 --> 01:00:44.360
do this to prove you're saved. Do this to prove

942
01:00:44.400 --> 01:00:46.639
you're saved. If you don't do this, you proved you're

943
01:00:46.719 --> 01:00:48.800
not saved. If you don't do this, you prove you're

944
01:00:48.840 --> 01:00:50.280
not saved. Well, how much of it do I have

945
01:00:50.400 --> 01:00:52.079
to do? Do I have to do it perfectly? Well,

946
01:00:52.119 --> 01:00:54.440
you just got to do it sufficiently sufficiently?

947
01:00:54.559 --> 01:00:55.639
Well, what does that even mean?

948
01:00:56.400 --> 01:00:59.599
And then it becomes subjective. And then ultimately, if you're

949
01:00:59.599 --> 01:01:02.119
even remotely honest with yourself, if you're going to hold

950
01:01:02.119 --> 01:01:04.960
the lordship salvation, here's a conclusion you should come to.

951
01:01:05.519 --> 01:01:14.639
You're not saved. Why be holy as God is holy?

952
01:01:15.199 --> 01:01:16.639
Do you ever do that? That means you're in a

953
01:01:16.679 --> 01:01:18.639
perpetual state of sin. Twenty four hours a day, seven

954
01:01:18.679 --> 01:01:20.559
days a week, huh. Love God with all your heart,

955
01:01:20.599 --> 01:01:23.519
my body, and soul. Even Ai says you can't do that. Hmm,

956
01:01:24.039 --> 01:01:25.800
well that would mean you're in a perpetual state of sin.

957
01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:27.079
Love your neighbor as yourself.

958
01:01:27.119 --> 01:01:27.519
Do you do that?

959
01:01:27.639 --> 01:01:28.440
No? You fall?

960
01:01:28.840 --> 01:01:30.320
How about do all things without.

961
01:01:30.159 --> 01:01:32.880
Complaining and grumbling. How about I go no bitterness, no

962
01:01:33.000 --> 01:01:35.159
one forgiveness, No this, no that. No.

963
01:01:36.360 --> 01:01:37.599
If you just even real after a.

964
01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:39.559
While, you'd be like, you know what, this stuff doesn't

965
01:01:39.559 --> 01:01:42.280
with This stuff is trash, it doesn't work. You would

966
01:01:42.320 --> 01:01:45.480
just throw it to the curb. But no, no, no,

967
01:01:45.599 --> 01:01:50.960
Lordship salvation convince themselves that they do it. Other people don't.

968
01:01:51.880 --> 01:01:55.760
I thank the Lord that I'm not like all of

969
01:01:55.880 --> 01:02:01.119
these people. I think the God that I'm not like

970
01:02:01.199 --> 01:02:02.480
all of these people.

971
01:02:04.719 --> 01:02:06.599
In fact, let's let's we'll end with that.

972
01:02:08.800 --> 01:02:12.079
The parable, I think? Is it the parable? Had always

973
01:02:12.119 --> 01:02:17.039
call it a parable. Let's look for that text of

974
01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:19.320
the unrighteous?

975
01:02:24.320 --> 01:02:30.920
Is that tax collector of the Is it a tax collector?

976
01:02:31.000 --> 01:02:31.639
I think maybe?

977
01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:38.880
And the Pharisee.

978
01:02:44.679 --> 01:02:46.800
I think it's the tax collector and the Pharisee. Let

979
01:02:46.840 --> 01:02:52.159
me see here, Yeah, it's Luke eighteen. I think it's

980
01:02:52.199 --> 01:02:58.320
Luke eighteen. I think it's Luke eighteen.

981
01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:05.000
The pharisee and the publican. All right, here we go.

982
01:03:06.519 --> 01:03:10.519
Luke eighteen verse nine. And he spaked this parable unto

983
01:03:10.639 --> 01:03:16.360
certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and

984
01:03:16.599 --> 01:03:22.159
despised others. Luke eighteen nine. Trusted in themselves that they

985
01:03:22.199 --> 01:03:25.599
are righteous. Lordship salvation is all about, look at how righteous.

986
01:03:25.639 --> 01:03:25.760
Now.

987
01:03:25.800 --> 01:03:27.880
They may try to say, God gave me the righteousness.

988
01:03:27.920 --> 01:03:30.559
They may try to give God the credit, but it's like, look,

989
01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:32.519
I do all of these things. This is how I

990
01:03:32.599 --> 01:03:35.039
know I'm saved. I know I'm saying because I do this,

991
01:03:35.360 --> 01:03:37.760
I do this, I do this, I do this. They're

992
01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:40.880
trusting in a righteousness that is somehow manifested in their

993
01:03:40.960 --> 01:03:44.079
life as proof that they're saved by an imputed righteousness,

994
01:03:44.119 --> 01:03:46.800
which just logically makes no sense. But that's okay. They

995
01:03:46.880 --> 01:03:49.760
look at that and guess what they tend to do.

996
01:03:50.159 --> 01:03:52.760
They despise others. That person's not saved. Well, that person's

997
01:03:52.800 --> 01:03:54.320
not sayd well, I don't know if that person can say,

998
01:03:54.440 --> 01:03:56.079
are you sure that person can be saying? Can a

999
01:03:56.119 --> 01:03:58.320
person really be saved? And do this? They're always wanting

1000
01:03:58.360 --> 01:04:01.159
the use their lordship salvation as there, I guess their

1001
01:04:01.199 --> 01:04:04.440
ability to critique and judge everyone else's salvation because.

1002
01:04:04.239 --> 01:04:08.840
You know them, they are good, but the other people aren't. Well,

1003
01:04:08.840 --> 01:04:09.880
then how does the story go?

1004
01:04:10.559 --> 01:04:12.719
Well, two men went up into a temple to pray,

1005
01:04:13.239 --> 01:04:16.119
the one a pharisee and the other a publican. The

1006
01:04:16.199 --> 01:04:19.039
pharisee stood and prayed, thus, I thank THEE that I'm

1007
01:04:19.119 --> 01:04:22.840
not as other men are. I'm not an extortioner. And

1008
01:04:23.119 --> 01:04:27.639
I'm adding here I'm not an, I'm not unjust, I'm

1009
01:04:27.719 --> 01:04:31.679
not an adulterer. I'm not or I'm not even as

1010
01:04:31.800 --> 01:04:35.440
this publican. I fast twice in the week, I give

1011
01:04:35.599 --> 01:04:42.039
tithes of all that I possess. Hey, I'm righteous, and

1012
01:04:42.199 --> 01:04:44.280
all of those things that he said. We would be

1013
01:04:44.360 --> 01:04:46.880
looking at that pharisee going, you've got to be saved

1014
01:04:47.000 --> 01:04:50.039
because your work's proved that you're saved. You fast, you

1015
01:04:50.199 --> 01:04:53.920
give money, you're not an adulterer, you're not an extortioner, You're.

1016
01:04:53.840 --> 01:04:55.039
Not like this other center.

1017
01:04:55.320 --> 01:04:58.719
You are the saved one, because Lordship Salvation says your

1018
01:04:58.760 --> 01:05:02.599
works prove it. And then what would what would Lordship

1019
01:05:02.639 --> 01:05:05.960
Salvation say to this guy? And then the publicans standing

1020
01:05:06.039 --> 01:05:08.679
far off would not even lift up so much his

1021
01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:12.960
eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God

1022
01:05:13.800 --> 01:05:17.679
be merciful to me a sinner. He doesn't even he

1023
01:05:17.760 --> 01:05:19.480
doesn't even go into what all of his sins are.

1024
01:05:19.679 --> 01:05:22.440
He's just like, Hey, I know, I'm a sinner. I'm

1025
01:05:22.480 --> 01:05:23.599
not I'm not worthy of anything.

1026
01:05:23.679 --> 01:05:24.159
Have mercy.

1027
01:05:24.199 --> 01:05:28.719
All I can do is ask for mercy. And guess

1028
01:05:28.760 --> 01:05:31.119
what when you when you cry out to God for mercy,

1029
01:05:31.400 --> 01:05:33.559
and by faith you believe in what Christ has done,

1030
01:05:33.800 --> 01:05:35.960
his righteousness is imputed to you. But guess what. You

1031
01:05:36.039 --> 01:05:42.880
still are a sinner, and you will continue to be

1032
01:05:43.920 --> 01:05:47.239
a sinner, and you will continue to sin, and even

1033
01:05:47.320 --> 01:05:51.559
your so called good works are corrupted by sin.

1034
01:05:56.280 --> 01:05:57.440
And how does the story end?

1035
01:05:57.599 --> 01:06:00.119
I tell you this man went down which man, and

1036
01:06:00.360 --> 01:06:03.280
the publican the sinner? He went down to his house

1037
01:06:03.519 --> 01:06:07.320
justified rather than the other. For everyone that exalted himself

1038
01:06:07.360 --> 01:06:10.079
shall be a based, and he that humbleth himself shall

1039
01:06:10.159 --> 01:06:18.440
be exalted as Luke eighteen nine through fourteen. Now, some

1040
01:06:18.559 --> 01:06:19.880
people may just see this as.

1041
01:06:19.760 --> 01:06:23.079
Oh, well, you just don't like lordship salvation. Now this

1042
01:06:23.280 --> 01:06:25.679
is about you're missing the whole point.

1043
01:06:25.920 --> 01:06:27.800
If your criticism of this is you just don't like

1044
01:06:27.880 --> 01:06:29.599
lordship salvation and who cares?

1045
01:06:29.719 --> 01:06:30.920
I would rather do something else.

1046
01:06:30.960 --> 01:06:34.119
Well, you can criticize it, but here's the reality. This

1047
01:06:34.320 --> 01:06:38.920
is about imputed righteousness versus infused righteousness. This is the

1048
01:06:39.159 --> 01:06:43.840
literally the whole thing the Reformation was about. This is

1049
01:06:43.880 --> 01:06:46.519
the reason you're not a Catholic. This is the heart

1050
01:06:46.639 --> 01:06:50.000
of what you claim to believe. You should be greatly

1051
01:06:50.159 --> 01:06:53.480
interested in it. And what should really fascinate you is

1052
01:06:53.559 --> 01:06:57.880
that we now have entered into a era where artificial

1053
01:06:57.960 --> 01:07:02.760
intelligence can literally challenge a philological system and point out

1054
01:07:02.920 --> 01:07:09.079
it's inconsistency, it's logical fallacies, how it's incompatible with a like, hey,

1055
01:07:09.119 --> 01:07:11.400
if you hold a lordship, well you can't hold to

1056
01:07:11.440 --> 01:07:15.679
imputed righteousness because they're incompatible. AI can point that out.

1057
01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:18.559
Never in the ten done before it would just be.

1058
01:07:18.679 --> 01:07:19.679
People pointing it out.

1059
01:07:19.760 --> 01:07:22.639
Now you have artificial intelligence going, oh, you know, it

1060
01:07:22.760 --> 01:07:25.639
doesn't really work. Now it's that gonna How does that

1061
01:07:25.760 --> 01:07:27.840
impact the church and theology moving forward?

1062
01:07:27.920 --> 01:07:29.440
I don't know. I don't think people care.

1063
01:07:29.639 --> 01:07:31.920
People won't care that AI disagrees with them. They don't

1064
01:07:31.960 --> 01:07:33.000
care because.

1065
01:07:32.880 --> 01:07:35.000
They think they're smarter than everything. They think they're smarter

1066
01:07:35.079 --> 01:07:35.679
than other people.

1067
01:07:35.719 --> 01:07:37.960
They think they're smarter than pastors, they think they're smarter

1068
01:07:38.039 --> 01:07:41.280
than theologians. They think they're basically God, so they won't

1069
01:07:41.320 --> 01:07:43.159
care what Ai has to say. But I think we

1070
01:07:43.199 --> 01:07:45.679
should pause when Ais like, hmmm, I don't know if

1071
01:07:45.719 --> 01:07:50.000
that actually works. I think there's a problem there, just

1072
01:07:50.079 --> 01:07:52.159
like we did in the first hour where Ai was like,

1073
01:07:52.480 --> 01:07:55.840
I think there's a problem with Isaiah forty eleven in baptism.

1074
01:08:01.280 --> 01:08:03.960
That's what we have to That's what we need to

1075
01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:06.159
take from this is that.

1076
01:08:06.199 --> 01:08:06.920
We've entered in it.

1077
01:08:07.320 --> 01:08:09.280
Theologically, we've entered into a new era.

1078
01:08:09.480 --> 01:08:10.119
That's number one.

1079
01:08:10.199 --> 01:08:13.760
Number two, we have ahiological system that has completely infiltrated

1080
01:08:13.800 --> 01:08:17.920
all of Christianity, that completely denies what our entire theological

1081
01:08:17.960 --> 01:08:20.399
system is supposed to be about, which is imputed righteousness

1082
01:08:20.720 --> 01:08:27.800
that doesn't bother you. And why is it that we

1083
01:08:28.000 --> 01:08:31.640
have such a law based mentality, because that's our natural

1084
01:08:31.680 --> 01:08:36.760
way of thinking, because grace is we don't get it. Wait,

1085
01:08:37.119 --> 01:08:39.960
a person can just be declared righteous and still be

1086
01:08:40.079 --> 01:08:44.720
a sinner. That seems not right. You got to do something.

1087
01:08:45.720 --> 01:08:48.279
No, I don't have to do anything, since Christ did everything.

1088
01:08:50.039 --> 01:08:55.359
You can't say that, Well, then believe it infused righteousness,

1089
01:08:55.359 --> 01:08:58.439
and then I'm all with you, all right, we'll start

1090
01:08:58.520 --> 01:09:05.800
it there twenty six. We went sixty nine minutes. We

1091
01:09:05.920 --> 01:09:08.000
had to do a lot more review than I typically wanted.

1092
01:09:08.039 --> 01:09:10.399
I wanted to just move right on to part two.

1093
01:09:10.520 --> 01:09:13.199
But yeah, this was the only choice really to do

1094
01:09:13.319 --> 01:09:16.560
Isaiah forty would have just been it had just messed

1095
01:09:16.600 --> 01:09:19.239
up the whole everything that we're doing. So hopefully next

1096
01:09:19.279 --> 01:09:22.119
Sunday Isaiah forty nine to eleven. But we did cover

1097
01:09:22.319 --> 01:09:24.159
We did cover Isaiah forty nine through eleven in the

1098
01:09:24.199 --> 01:09:27.279
first hour. So really you've gotten hours two, You've got

1099
01:09:27.319 --> 01:09:29.199
almost two and a half hours of teaching today, and

1100
01:09:29.640 --> 01:09:32.239
you have the stuff we did yesterday I think, which

1101
01:09:32.359 --> 01:09:34.359
was two hours two and a half hours yesterday. So

1102
01:09:34.399 --> 01:09:37.800
it's about five six hours of content and two days.

1103
01:09:38.239 --> 01:09:42.199
So thanks for listening, and well we'll do more. Talk

1104
01:09:42.239 --> 01:09:44.960
about basically what AI has done.

1105
01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:47.359
It's basically written a book.

1106
01:09:47.720 --> 01:09:50.079
Really, I've just basically asked it to create a book

1107
01:09:50.720 --> 01:09:54.039
on the problems with lordship salvation according to AI, and

1108
01:09:54.119 --> 01:09:57.479
it basically I've got an entire book here. I'm still edited,

1109
01:09:57.520 --> 01:10:00.479
I'm still asking it to edit and change somet but

1110
01:10:00.560 --> 01:10:03.239
when it's all said and done, I'm basically going to

1111
01:10:03.319 --> 01:10:06.119
have a full blown book on all the problems with

1112
01:10:06.199 --> 01:10:09.960
lordship salvation according to artificial intelligence, and then I'm going

1113
01:10:10.039 --> 01:10:11.680
to probably try to put it in a PDF file

1114
01:10:11.680 --> 01:10:13.319
and then I'll try to make it available to everyone.

1115
01:10:14.920 --> 01:10:19.880
And AI is helping put it together, which is crazy.

1116
01:10:19.920 --> 01:10:22.720
All right, Thanks for listening everyone, Have a great day.

1117
01:10:24.479 --> 01:10:25.000
God bless