Jan. 17, 2025

AI vs Lordship Salvation Pt 1

AI vs Lordship Salvation Pt 1

A discussion about Lordship Salvation with AI

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A discussion about Lordship Salvation with AI

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Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is

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the Theology Central podcast, making Theology Central. Good morning everyone.

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It is Friday, January seventeenth, twenty twenty five. It is

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currently ten nineteen am Central Time, and I am coming

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to you live from the Theology Central studio located right

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here in Abilene, Texas. So what comes to your mind

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when you hear the phrase lordship salvation? What comes to

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your mind? Lordship salvation? Come on, tell me what comes

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to your mind? Is it good thoughts? Is it bad thoughts?

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Is it like lordship salvation? That's just well, that's just salvation.

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That's the way it is. Like you are committed to

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lordship salvation, and when you go to a church, you

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basically ask if they hold the lordship'salation. If they don't,

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you're not gonna go to that church because all those

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other churches they believe that's easy believism, that's cheap grace.

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They're anti Nomians. And what if and you absolutely are

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a supporter of lordship salvation, or maybe you're someone and

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like you hear the term lordship salvation, you're like, oh no,

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been there, done that, got the T shirt? Never going

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back to that that was a horrible experience. I want

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as far away from it as possible. Do you see

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Lordship Salvation as well? They just have a different perspective

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on Salvation, or do you believe Lordship Salvation is well,

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actually it's heretical. Where do you fit in when it

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comes to this, Well, I have a long history with

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Lordship's Salvation, So let's begin there. Let's go back. All right,

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We're gonna go back in time for just a little bit.

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We're gonna have story time, right, We're gonna go back

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in time. I'm gonna explain my involvement Lordship Salvation, my

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struggles with it in some ways, my leaving it, and

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then well, we're going to have a kind of an

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interesting discussion and exploration about what AI thinks about Lordship's Salvation.

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And this is gonna take This is probably going to

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take a number of episodes to work through, and it

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may end with almost like a book written by AI

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about Lordship Salvation being produced. I don't know if it's

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going to ultimately in there, but that's kind of the

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direction I think this may go. And you're going to

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be through, You're going to walk through the entire process,

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so are you ready. First, we have to go backwards, right,

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We're going to go back to when I was a

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teenager right here in Abilene, Texas. Now, at the time,

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I wasn't living in Abilene, Texas. I was living in

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Buffalo Gap, Texas. But I become a Christian. I'm a teenager, right,

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and so I become a Christian, and I start thinking, well,

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if I'm a Christian, then I need to buy some

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Christian books. Right. So I don't really have a lot

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of direction, nobody to really tell me what to do.

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But I'm like, Okay, get in my car, drive to Abilene, Texas.

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What about fifteen fifteen, twenty minutes away? About fifteen minutes

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away Buffalo Gap to Abilene, Texas. I end up on

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Butternut Street in Abilene, Texas, and there is the Bible Bookstore.

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I pull into the parking lot of the Bible Bookstore. Now,

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the very first time I go in there, I've told

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the story countless times. I'm a teenager looking around. Don't know,

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I've never been into a Bible bookstore ever in my life.

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I didn't. I mean, I don't know anything about them.

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I'm just kind of looking around at everything, and this

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older gentleman walks up and kind of start asking me

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some questions, like can I help you with anything? I'm like, well,

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you know, I'm basically a brand new Christian. I don't

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even know where to begin now. He sees a teenager.

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He could have taken me over to the youth section.

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He could have taken me over to, you know, some

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of the Jesus that you know some Bible bookstores sell

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just who knows what he could have handed me, But

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instead he hands me a systematic theology written by James

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Montgomery Boyce, who is the pastor of Tith Presbyterian Church

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I believe in Philadelphia. And it was like a full

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blown systematic theology. It was amazing. It was awesome. So

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that was like the first book I ever bought, was

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a systematic theology. And I forever will be grateful to

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that gentleman for not just seeing a teenager like he

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could have looked at me. Oh, teenagers, they don't know anything.

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I'm a brand new Christian. He hands me a systematic theology.

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He treated me not like a teenager. He treated me

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like someone who could understand. And I think too many

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times churches treat teenagers like all they can do is

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eat pizza and play fun games, and they can't understand anything.

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I hate that I was treated with respect and dignity

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and handed a systematic theology, and that ultimately changed my

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life because from that point on, I mean, obviously, what

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have I done with my entire life? Study theology, study theology,

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study theology, study theology, go to school for philological studies.

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That's all I've done my entire life. So I'm forever

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grateful to that. Now. The good news with that, or

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at least I think good news for me, you may

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just find it interesting, is years and years later, many

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years later, of course, I joined the military. I leave Texas.

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The military then brings me back to Texas. And then

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when we move back to Texas, we're visiting churches and

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I'm in this church and here's this older gentleman, and

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guess who it is, the man who all of those

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years ago handed me James Montgomery Boyce systematic theology and

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placed it in my hands. And I was able to

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thank him for that. But that started my pursuit of theology,

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and it really began my going to the Bible bookstore.

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Going to the Bible bookstore. Now I don't know if

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it was my second trip, third trip, fourth trip, fifth trip.

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I don't know exactly which trip it was to the bookstore.

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The first one I'll never forget because that was when

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I've got my hands really on my first systematic theology.

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But it was somewhere after that. Again, I don't know

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if it was a week, a month. I cannot narrow

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it down. But I go into the Bible bookstore and

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there is a book called The Gospel according to Jesus

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by John MacArthur. All Right, I purchased this book, and

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I start trying to process is what I'm reading right now. Now.

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You've got to remember, I'm a brand new Christian, So

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in my mind at this point in time, I'm just

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you have to understand this. You've got to put this

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in its proper historical context. I just my assumption was

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all Christian books basically teach the truth of Christianity. I

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didn't really yet understand, like, wait, this group versus this group,

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versus this group versus this group. I didn't quite yet

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understand that. I was already starting to ask some of

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those questions because like the church, I was at the

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church I was saved in baptized in and started attending

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was First Baptist Church, Tuescola, Texas. Well, literally right next

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I mean literally right next to First Baptist Church, Tuscola, Texas.

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I mean literally right next door was a Church of Christ.

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So I was kind of like, well, wait, why are they?

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Why are they right next door if we believe the

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same thing. And then I was being told, well, we

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don't believe exactly the same thing, and so then I

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started having quite well what about the Catholics and what

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about that? I wasn't getting a lot of good answers.

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But in my mind still when I went to the

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Christian bookstore, I was a little bit naive, well, all

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these books have to teach, you know, the truth of Christianity.

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I didn't really see well that, well they could have

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books for the Catholics, or they could have books for

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the Church of Christ. I still was trying to process

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it all. So in my mind, when I read the

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Gospel according to Jesus by John MacArthur, I thought, well,

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this is the truth of salvation. You see, if you're

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that there are lots of people who claim to be Christians,

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but they're not really Christians. They're not really saved. They

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profess to be saved, but they're not saved. And how

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do you know, because look at how they live. If

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they're truly saved, they would do this. They would love God,

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they would read their Bible, they would miss church, they

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would memorize scripture, they'd be reading systematic theology. They'd be

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doing this, and they'd be doing this, and they'd be

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doing this, and they'd be doing this. So then my mind,

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I was like, Okay, well, if I'm truly a Christian,

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I better read more than anybody else. I better study

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more than anybody else. I better listen to more sermons.

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I'm never going to miss a church service because if

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I'm truly saved, I'm going to do this, this, this, this, this,

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And then I could go, well, those people aren't saved,

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and those people aren't saved, and those people aren't saved,

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and those people aren't saved. Now I found myself having

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struggles with this sometimes because I was also a teenager

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and I ken't realizing I was having sinful thoughts and

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I was sinning and I was doing this. But I

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would be like, but but but but I still read

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more and I study more and I pray more, and

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I go to church more, and I do this, and

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I do that. So it was like I was trying

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to almost for any sin, I would overcompensate with doing

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more religious things, praying more, reading more, studying more so

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because I got to prove that I'm saved, because because hey,

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if I truly am saved, I've surrendered myself to the

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lordship of Jesus Christ. I'm following him, I'm obeying him,

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because if you don't do that, you're not really saved.

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So I just kind of begin to accept this way

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of thinking as this is Christianity. Like in my brain

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I didn't even realize that there was a possible different

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way of thinking about it. Was like, lordship is south

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is Christianity. If you truly are saved, when you believe

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in Jesus, you surrender yourself to his lordship, and you

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know that you have because of what you do. So

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you've got to constantly be looking at your life going, oh,

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I did this, and I did this, and I did that,

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and I didn't. I still there was so much I

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did not quite understand now as I stay now, as

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I stayed at First Baptist Church in Tuscola, Texas Lordship.

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Salvation just became like, that's the one thing I no longer.

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I didn't even question it. I just like, that's salvation.

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Because even in the church, I would hear basically similar thoughts.

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There's a lot of you who may claim to be

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a Christian, but unless you do this and do this,

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I'm like, okay, everyone talks this language. I would hear

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a little bit of it on Christian radio. There's a

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lot of you who profess to be saved, but you're

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not saved. How do you know you're saved? You do this,

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you do this, you do this, you do this and

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so and then I would run into some Chris. I

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started running into charismatics. It would teach you can lose

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your salvation. And Church of Christ was very prominent obviously

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here in West Texas. You could lose your salvation. I'm like, okay,

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well they believe you can lose it. We believe you

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never have it. But I mean, it's the basic same thing.

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If you're truly saved, you'll do this, you'll do this,

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you'll do this, you'll do this, and if you don't

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do this, you're not saved. That's just I mean, I

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was it's just the dominant way that I was thinking.

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I mean, I didn't know anything else. Well, But as

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I stayed at First Baptist Church in Tuscola, Texas, I

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started having more and more theological questions, just asking questions,

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asking questions, and I wasn't getting any good answers right.

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There was just it was a lot of emphasis on evangelism,

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a lot of emphasis for me being a teenager on

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fun food, fellowship, lock ins, pizza, and I didn't My

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attitude was like, guys, I didn't come to church so

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that I can have entertainment. I can entertain myself. I

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came here to learn. So I became very frustrated, and

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ultimately I left and became a Lutheran. Now in the

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Lutheran Church, I started learning the proper distinction between law

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and gospel. I still didn't quite understand how this connected

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with lordship salvation. But here's what thing where things got

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confusing in the Lutheran Church. Even I had a lordship mentality,

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in some ways, law and gospel should have been kind

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of telling me that this lordship salvation idea may not

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be right. But the Lutheran Church also taught me that

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a lot of these kids who have been baptized as babies,

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who supposedly were saved, well, they lost their salvation when

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they got older. How do you know they lost their

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salvation based on what they do, which again is not

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a very law gospel distinction. So I'm like, wait a minute,

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so if Christianity's divided into two camps, you lose it

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or you never had it. But the bottom line is

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you got to do a lot to prove you have it,

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or you got to do a lot to keep it.

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So my understanding was all kinds of messed up. Right.

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So then as I move forward, I become much more

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involved with reform theology, learning about quote unquote what some

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people would call Calvinism, election predestination. All right, but again, lordship.

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I fit everything into the lordship framework because that's all

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I knew. Now. The one thing I began to struggle

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with was one I was becoming more and more aware that, yeah,

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I'm doing a lot of overcompensating, right Like I'm reading more,

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going to church more. I've already I think, you know,

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I already have an associate's degree. I already have a

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bachelor's degree. I'm already pursuing all of this education about theology,

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and I'm doing this, and I was doing great there.

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Nobody could touch me and my study and my knowledge,

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because that's how I knew that. I would almost look

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to that as proof of my salvation. But I was

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becoming more and more aware of my own sinful mind

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and thoughts and desires. I was just realizing, I'm godly

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on the outside, but I'm not quite as godly on

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the inside. So how does it fit with lordship? So

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I was starting to have some struggles trying to figure

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it out, and then I was like, lordship. I mean,

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at some point I kept saying, Lordship, if I keep

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going this direction, there's not going to be anyone saved,

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right because that person's not saved. That person's not saved.

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That person is not saved. So I was starting to

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have some issues. But really the moment the epiphany is

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when I decided, you know what, I'm tired of hearing

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all of these non Catholics criticized Catholicism and they clearly

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have no clue what they're talking about when it comes

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to Catholicism. So I was becoming more and more bothered

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by a lot of the ignorance I would hear non

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Catholics say about Catholicism. They just seem to have no

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clue what they were talking about, borrowing from who knows what,

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is ridiculous. So I'm like, you know what, when I

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speak about Catholicism, I want to do so from a

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position of knowledge, not one of ignorance. So I decided

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to enroll in a Catholic university to pursue a degree

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in Catholic theology. And it was within that school, having

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back and forth with the professor's priest students, going back

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and forth, that I began to be challenged about this

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whole concept of lordship salvation. And basically what I was told, Hey,

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your lordship salvation is more Catholic than you even realize.

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Your lordship salvation is far more in line with Catholicism

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than it is with the Protestant Reformation. And if you

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can't admit that you don't know, then you don't understand

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Reformation theology. You don't really understand what you're doing. If

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you're going to hold the lordship's salvation, Basically you should

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just come back to the Catholic Church because it's basically

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a non Catholic version of Catholicism. And it bought that

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irritation me, that ticked me off so much that I

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was like, no, that's not right. And basically I was

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challenged with this, Well, do you believe in a justification

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by an imputed righteousness? Or do you believe in a

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justification by an infused righteousness? If you truly believe it's

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imputed and not infused, well then you should be moving

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away from lordship salvation, not such a staunch supporter of

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it and defender of it. And I was kind of like,

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and then I began to have almost a crisis of faith.

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I was like, man, I mean, my church we hold

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to the the sixteen eighty nine London Baptist Confession of Faith,

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which clearly emphasizes a justification by an imputed righteousness, and

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it rejects the infused righteous concept. Am I being consistent

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with an imputed righteousness? Or am on one hand saying

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I believe justification by an imputed righteousness? But in reality

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I'm contradicting myself. And then the crisis of faith begin

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to unfold, and I begin to question and doubt and

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disagree with lordship Salvation, which was not a good thing

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for me and my ministry because I didn't realize how

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many people held to a lordship I did, even if

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they didn't use the terminology, even if they had never

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read MacArthur's book. And all of a sudden, I was like,

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what do I do? So I have moved forward. I

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mean I reject lordship Salvation now. I reject it because

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I believe it's basically a Protestant form of Catholicism. So

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I have struggled with it, and I've gone through this

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long journey. I've been in it, I've been out of it,

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I've been supporter of it, I've now been a critic

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of it. I've been all over the place with it.

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But it's twenty twenty five, ladies and gentlemen. We now

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have a tool called artificial intelligence. So I decided, Hey,

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artificial intelligence, are you busy right now? Okay? And of

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course you're not busy, You're ready, You're always ready twenty

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four to seven to help me with anything. So hey,

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artificial intelligence, let's have a conversation, and I need you

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to work with me and challenge me and critique anything

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I have to say. We're going to go on a

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journey and we're going to discuss well lordship salvation. So

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I am going to walk you through the conversation and

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then so what we're going to do a lot of

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this may be somewhat repetitive. I know that's going to

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drive some people crazy because you always criticize me of it.

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But that's okay. We're going to walk through the conversation. Now.

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The reason the conversation may be repetitive is because I'll

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ask this, and then so it'll give me this. But

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then I may ask a clarifying and then it will

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give me that and maybe some of what it's already

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given me. So there will be some repetition. But the

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repetition is a good thing because it will drive home

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some of these essential philological points and some of the

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major issues with lordship salvation. Now, when I started, I

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did not realize. I did not think necessarily that AI

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would be opposed to lordship salvation. But the other day,

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when we were using AI to review that sermon on

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James two fourteen through twenty six, remember AI kind of

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basically walked into saying it didn't criticize. I didn't name

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lordship salvation, but clearly AI was going against the theology

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of lordship salvation, and I was like, whoa, it's literally

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saying the very kind of things I have said now

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for years about lordship salvation. So that caught my attention

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and that's what led to this. So this is how

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the conversation began. So what we're going to do over

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the next I don't know how long we are going

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to just you're going to you're going to listen to

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me walk you through my conversation with artificial intelligence about

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lordship salvation. There's no way we're going to finish this conversation.

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That's why I labeled this part one. But over the

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next I don't know how many episodes, this is what

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we're going to focus on. So are you ready? All right?

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So here is how I began because in my mind, now,

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let me at least explain this. As I've stated before,

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AI is an amazing tool. It's I think it's one

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of the greatest. I mean, it's I think the greatest

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invention in human history. Right, It's the most amazing thing.

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But I have come to realize the more philological knowledge

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you have I think the better you can utilize the tool. Right,

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If you go in with no thehiological knowledge, all you

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can really do is ask questions and you just kind

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of have to accept whatever AI says. The more knowledge

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you have, the more you can well what about this

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or what about that? So, because of my long journey

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with Lordship Salvation and because of my experience pursuing a

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degree in Catholic theology, I know that the starting point

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to all of this is the difference between in the

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understanding of salvation by an infused righteousness versus salvation by

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an imputed righteousness. That is the issue. Lordship Salvation may say, oh,

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we believe in imputed righteousness, but I believe they contradict

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that in practice. Right, So here we go. So this

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is where we have to start. So I begin by

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asking Ai the following question. Isn't it accurate to say

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that the major difference between Catholicism and non Catholic Christianity

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is Catholicism teaches a salvation based on an infused righteousness

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and non Catholics, for the most part, teach salvation based

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on an imputed righteousness. Now, please note I'm asking AI,

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is this correct? So this gives Ai the opportunity to go, no,

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you're completely wrong here, just as when we've given Ai

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some parts of sermons, and what is Ai've done? This

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is completely wrong. So Ai, I know AI will say

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you're wrong when you're wrong. I know that because we've

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watched it happen too many times. All right, So but

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here's what how Ai replied. Yes, that is a key

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philological distinction between Catholicism and many forms of non Catholic Christianity,

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particularly within Protestantism. Here's a breakdown of the concepts. Are

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you ready infused righteousness? This is the Catholic view. I

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want you to understand the Catholic view. I want you

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to have the Catholic view. Now this is me talking.

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I want you to have the Catholic view burned into

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your brain, because the more you understand the Catholic view,

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the more you want to understand infused righteousness. Though, I

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think then you become much more prepared to go Wait

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a minute, and my Baptist Church and my Reformed church,

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in my Bible church, I think I'm hearing far more

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of a perspective that's more inlign with infused righteousness than

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it is imputed righteousness and that Remember, it was my

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studying of Catholicism and understanding a salvation by infused righteousness

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that made me go, wait a minute, this sounds like

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Lordship's salvation. And it was them saying it is, and

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I was like, wait, there's a problem here. So here's

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infused righteousness. You're right, you're ready, Here we go. Catholic

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theology teaches that righteousness is infused into the believer through

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the sacraments, particularly baptism, and it is sustained and increased

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through cooperation with God's grace, good works, and participate and

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the sacramental life. But please note Protestants non Catholics may

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disagree that this infused righteousness happens through the sacraments or

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through baptism. But if you listen to Christians talk but

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when I became a believer, and they almost speak as

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if something infused, something was put inside of them, this

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is very close to an infused righteous idea. Now back

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to ai, salvation involves both God's grace and the believer's

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cooperation with that grace, synergism, So Catholics have a synergistic

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idea of salvation. Just keep that in mind, right, next,

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this view emphasizes an internal transformation, where the person becomes

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truly righteous over time through sanctification. So in Catholicism, you

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are transformed on the inside, you are made righteous on

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the inside, you are infused with the righteousness of God.

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And maybe that's not the completely correct way of saying it,

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but that's a good way of describing it. Now, this

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sounds just like much of Protestantism. Hey, when you became

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a Christian, you became a new creation. All things passed away,

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all things have become new, and they teach that to

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be true in a practical sense. That's that's the same concept.

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You've been transformed on the inside. You'll never be the

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same again. That's Catholicism. Justification and sanctification are seen as

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interconnected and an ongoing process. Now, this is where lordship salvation.

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We say, no, no, no, justification is a one time event,

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but they say it's a one time event. But guess what,

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it's a one day you've been justified. However, no, no, no, no, no.

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Wait wait wait wait wait wait, you don't really know

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if you've been justified, because how are you gonna know

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if you've been justified based on what you do, based

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on what you do, based on what you do what

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you do, So you can't really ever know if you're

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truly justified because your works are going to be the

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thing that proves you're justified. So you've got to make

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sure you have enough works and the right kind of

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works when you get to the end of your life

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to know if you're truly saved. Well, all this is

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about works, works, work, It's about an internal transformation. So

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lordship would say things a little differently, but the concepts

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are very very similar now imput. So that's infused righteousness,

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let me say them again. Catholic theology teaches that righteousness

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is infused into the believer through the sacraments, particularly baptism,

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and it is sustained and increased through cooperation with God's

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grace and good works and participation in the sacramental life.

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Salvation involves both God's grace and the believer's cooperation with

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that grace synergism. The view emphasizes an internal transformation where

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the person becomes truly righteous over time through sanctification. Justification

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as sanctification or seen as interconnected and an ongoing process,

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and within a lot of the lordship idea. They would say, well,

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justification is instantaneous, but sanctification is a process. But sanctification

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is a thing that proves your justification. So unless you

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are progressing and sanctification to the right degree, well then

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you were never saved. So really, your salvation becomes based

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upon your sanctification and lordship, no matter how much they

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want to deny it, because if you're not having sanctification,

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then they say you were never justified, meaning you've got

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to have a certain level of sanctification in order to

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be saved. It's saying the same thing. But what is

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imputed righteousness? Well, many non Catholic Christians, especially within Reformed

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and Lutheran traditions, teach that righteousness is imputed to the believer.

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This means that the righteousness of Christ is credited to

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the believer's account through fail alone, not because of any

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inherent transformation or work. In fact, imputed righteousness does not transform.

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Imputed righteousness is just where God's righteousness is credited to me.

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And I'm declared to be righteous even though I am not.

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I'm not made righteous in a practical sense. I am

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declared to be righteous in a positional sense, and being

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declared righteous in a positional sense does not transform me practically,

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And if you say it does, you are a liar

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and you're going with an infused righteous concept. Salvation is

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viewed as a monargistic God alone accomplishes it, and justification

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is a one time declarative act where the believer is

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declared righteous even though that remain a center in practice.

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Did you hear that? See, in the imputed righteousness system,

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you are declared to be righteous even though you remain

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a sinner in practice. Even AI understands this. If you

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believe in imputed righteousness, you are declared to be righteous

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even though you remain a sinner in practice. That is

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what the imputed righteousness view teaches. But you've got all

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of these especially within the lordship camp, who almost deny this.

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They're like, no, no, no, you're justified by imputed righteousness,

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but you no longer remain a sinner in practice. You

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are transformed, you are changed, and if you're not, you

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were never saved. That's not imputed righteousness, Ladies and gentlemen,

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imputed righteousness as you're declared to be righteous even though

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you remain a sinner in practice. And the imputed righteousness

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world sanctification is distinct from justification, and it follows as

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the believer grows in holiness, but it does not contribute

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to their standing before God. What are the key differences

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between infused and imputed righteousness? Understanding the source of righteousness.

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Infused righteousness emphasizes an actual transformation of the believer, while

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imputed righteousness focuses on the believer being declared righteous based

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on Christ's merits. Did you hear that? It is the

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infused righteous philosophy that emphasizes the transformation of the believer.

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And Protestants do this all the time. You've been transformed,

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You've been changed. What was is no longer. You're different,

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You're new, you are a new creature. The old is gone.

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Protestants sound more Catholic than Catholics when you emphasize transformation,

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that is infused righteousness, because let me state it again,

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imputed righteousness does not transform you practically. It transforms you

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so positionally. Positionally, you are a new creature. Positionally, the

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old things are gone. Positionally, all things are new. Positionally,

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you are holy. Positionally you are righteous. Positionally you are obedient.

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Practically you are the same center you were before you

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were saved. Even Ai knows this, So me stated again.

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The key difference between infused righteousness and imputed righteousness is

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infused righteousness emphasizes an actual transformation of the believer, while

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imputed righteousness focuses on the believer being declared righteous based

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on Christ merits. The role of works and Catholicism, good

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works are necessary as a part of the process of salvation,

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and Protestantism good works are the result of salvation, but

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not a contributing factor to it. Now, please note they

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say that that within Protestant Protestantism good works as a

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result of salvation. Keep that in mind, right, because I'm

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going to ask some clarifying questions here, because this is

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where things get convoluted and confused, not only within lordship,

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within Protestantism, fundamentalism in general. So just keep that in mind.

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Justification versus sanctification. Catholicism sees them as intertwined, while Protestants

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often distinguished them as separate stages. This distinction was a

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major issue during the Reformation and remains a dividing line

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between Catholicism and Protestantism. However, it's worth noting that there

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is diversity within both traditions, and not all Protestants or

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Catholics articulate these concepts in exactly the same way. And

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I do appreciate AI at least acknowledging, Hey, not everything's

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going to be stated this clearly and night and clearly

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within the Protestant world. It's not understood this way. The

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Protestant world is all over. I would say the Protestants

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have the most convoluted Gospel you could find anywhere. Not

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at least Catholics have some sameness about what they have

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to say, because they have to articulate things as given

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out bad the magisterium and the authority of the Church,

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say in the Catechism, et cetera. Within the Protestant it's

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every man for themselves. So they will explain the gospel

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saying we've got the true Gospel. But you listen to them,

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you're like, I think you're describing a salvation by an

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infused righteousness, even though you're denying that you are. That's

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exactly what you're doing practically. Now. I had to ask

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Ai then a question, even though this is the key

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distinction between the two, Even though this is the key

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distinction infused righteousness and imputed righteousness, even though this is

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the key distinction between the two. And again, listen how

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I state this, I ask AI? Isn't it accurate to

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say that much of non Catholic sermons, Bible studies, and

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teaching seems to contradict the imputed righteousness understanding and and

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advertently almost teach an infused righteous idea. Please note, I

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ask A, I don't tell AI, I don't say hey, Ai.

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Here's my perspective. I'm giving AI the opportunity to go

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right or wrong, just like it has, just as we

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have demonstrated that it does with many of the things

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we've heard in sermons. How many things have I said, Hey,

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this sermon said? This in AI is like no, wrong,

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not correct, very dogmatic. So I'm giving it the opportunity

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to say that I'm wrong. So I'm like, hey, doesn't

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it when it comes down to it, Within the Protestant world,

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they inadvertently almost teach an infused righteous system. Here's what

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AI said. Yes, that is an insightful observation. While imputed

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righteousness is central to much of Protestant theology, particularly and

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Reformed and Lutheran traditions, it is true that many non

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Catholic sermons, Bible studies, and teaching often lean towards language

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and concepts that resemble infused righteousness. This can create tension

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between their stated theology and their practical teaching. Hey, in

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their theology it sounds good, but when it comes down

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to their practical teaching, it's infused righteousness. So Ai then says, basically,

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do you want me to explain why this happens? And

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I'm like, yeah, explain to me why this happens. Here

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we go, it happens. Number one, emphasis on sanctification and

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moral transformation. Now, if you've listen to sermons at all,

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it's always about sanctification and transformation, transformation, transformation, transformation, transformation

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in a practical way. And guess what this ultimately does.

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It almost leads you back to an infused righteous understanding.

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This is what Ai said. Many Protestant churches place a

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strong focus on personal holiness and moral improvement and spiritual growth,

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which can inadvertently suggest that righteousness is something developed within

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the believer rather than something fully credited to them by Christ.

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If we listen to sermons, it's almost always about some

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kind of a practical righteousness, something inside of you, some transformation,

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not imputed righteousness, but something almost They even they don't

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use the word infused, but that's where the language goes.

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And sermon after sermon after sermon in the Protestant world

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or the Baptist world if you don't want to be

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called a Protestant or the Bible Church, Reform whatever world.

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The non Catholic world, sermons often stressed becoming more like

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Christ or living out your faith, which, while important, can

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blome or the distinction between justification imputed righteousness and sanctification,

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the process of becoming holy. So within the Protestant non

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Catholic world, there's the symphasis on transformation, transformation, transformation that

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almost leads to this idea that you've been infused with something,

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now you work it out, you do something, Now you've

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got to do this, or while you're not truly saved,

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which leads to point number two. Conditional language and assurance

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of salvation. Some teachings unintentionally tie assurance of salvation to

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visible evidence of transformation, such as good works are spiritual fruit.

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That's literally lordship salvation. Did you hear that? A I say, Hey,

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the reason there's this like confused, messed up thing that

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where Protestants claim they believe in imputed righteousness but inadvertently

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revert back to an infused righteous understanding is because in

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their teaching they unintentionally they may not even realize what

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they are doing. It may not be intentional, it may

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be unintentional. They tie assurance of salvation to visible evidence

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of transformation. Now just look, the minute you say, well,

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this proves that you're saved, or this proves that you're

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saved and you're looking for some kind of moral action,

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some kind of transformation, some kind of spiritual fruit, ladies

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and gentlemen, the minute you do that, you have reverted

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back to an infused righteousness, because you are saying, if

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you've been infused with righteousness, then your outward life will

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produce that righteousness. And if it doesn't, then you were

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not infused with righteousness. Because if you believe in imputed righteousness,

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you would never even offer this as an idea. Why

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Because imputed righteousness does not change you, and it does

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not transform you, It does not produce anything in you

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because it's imputed. It's just righteousness accredited to your account.

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You cannot prove imputed righteousness by doing you could do

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seven hundred thousand good works, you could be supposedly righteous.

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None of that proves imputed righteousness because imputed righteousness does

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not manifest itself in any practical way because it's imputed.

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How do we not understand that we say we hate

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Catholicism when we go around and basically teach Catholicism. So

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let me read this again. Some teachings unintentionally tie assurance

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of salvation to visible evidence of transformation, such as good

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works or spiritual fruit. This can lead to practical theology

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that suggests believers maintain their salvation through their own efforts,

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resembling the Catholic idea of cooperating with grace now lordship salvation.

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They would word it differently, but that's literally what it

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comes down to. If you're truly saved, you'll do this,

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You'll do this, do this, do this, do this. If

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you don't, you are never saved. Wait a minute, I

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was saved by an imputed righteousness that doesn't do that,

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doesn't do anything in me. It declares me to be

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something that I'm not. So how does this all come about? Well?

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Within the non Catholic world, they emphasize sanctification and moral

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transformation and number two, they add a conditional language and

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assurance of salvation number three. This happens because of a

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misunderstanding or oversimplification of justification. Many pastors and teachers may

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unintentionally conflate justification and sanctification in their preaching, leading to

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the impression that believers are progressively made righteous in a

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way that determines their standing before God. And that's exactly

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what happens in lordship salvation. Your sanctification determines your standing

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before God. If there's not enough sanctification, the wrong kind

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of sanctification, if it's somehow missing, then you are lost.

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You were never saved. So your sanctification determines your standing

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before God. That is an absolute denial of justification by

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imputed righteousness. Instead of emphasizing the finished work of Christ,

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they focus heavily on what believers must do to either

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remain in good standing or to prove their good standing.

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If you want proof of my good standing before God,

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don't look to me, look to Christ. Because my standing

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before God it's determined by an imputed righteousness, not by

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a practical righteousness that I either live or don't live.

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You completely demonstrate that you are Catholic, even though you

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claim you're not. I've been saying this for I don't

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even know how many years, and people get mad at

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me and get furious at me and accuse me of

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being an Antiinomian or easy believism. It's like, no, it's like,

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if you believe in imputed righteousness, this is the only

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logical conclusion you can come to. But they want to

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say they believe in imputed righteousness, will over and over

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saying I get so sick of it. I get so

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tired of it. It. Look you, if you want this

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lordship idea, then do me a favor. Go to a

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Catholic church. Stop pretending not to be Catholic. When you

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are actually Catholic. And people say that, they get all,

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oh you'm not Catholic, Oh you'm not Catholic. Well, in

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your understanding of salvation you are. No, I'm not. I

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believe in salvation by grace alone, through faith alone, because

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of Christ alone. Until you start literally how it were out,

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then it's going to be like, but you got to

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do this and this and this and this and this

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in order to be saved, meaning I have to do

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this in order to be saved. Meaning you are now

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looking for something other than imputed righteousness as the proof

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of one salvation. Imputed righteousness cannot be tested by sanctification

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because it's imputed. You can test salvation by sanctification if

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you believe in infused righteousness, because infuse righteousness then will

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produce the good works. Then you can test it by

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looking at someone's sanctification. How it's just how can you

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not understand this? It's like logic one oh one. So

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number four pressure for practical application. In many Protestant context

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there is a strong emphasis on application and preaching and teaching.

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This often results in messages that prioritize what Christians should

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do behavioral change over what Christ has already done imputed righteousness.

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This application heavy approach can overshadow the declarative nature of

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justification and make righteousness just feel like something earned or maintained.

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Because then Protestant preaching is like, do this, do this,

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you got to do this, you need to be doing this,

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You're not doing this. Do this, do this, don't do this,

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do this, don't do this. It's law law, law, law, law, law, law, law, law, law, law,

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law law, and yay. And the idea is, if you're

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really saved, you will do this, you will do this.

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You will do this once again, using sanctification as a

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proof of justification, which does not work if you believe

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in an imputed righteous system. Number five the influence of

689
00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:47.239
moralistic and legalistic tendencies. Protestant churches are not immune to

690
00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:51.039
moralism and legalism, where the Christian life is framed primarily

691
00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:53.679
as a set of rules to follow our behaviors to exhibit.

692
00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:56.760
This can make it seem as though that the believers

693
00:44:56.800 --> 00:44:59.840
standing with God is dependent on their performance, which cont

694
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:06.599
predicts the doctrine of imputed righteousness. While most Protestant traditions

695
00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:11.960
officially hold to imputed righteousness, the practical teaching in many

696
00:45:11.960 --> 00:45:18.960
contexts often drifts towards a functional infused righteousness. I want

697
00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:21.199
you to hear this again. This is what AI has

698
00:45:21.239 --> 00:45:23.639
to say. You've got to hear this. You want to

699
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:34.039
write this down. While most Protestant traditions officially hold to

700
00:45:34.159 --> 00:45:42.039
imputed righteousness, the practical teaching in many contexts often drift

701
00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:49.519
towards a functional infused righteousness. This inconsistency can lead to

702
00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:53.039
confusion among believers, causing them to rely on their own

703
00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:57.039
efforts for assurance rather than resting and the finished work

704
00:45:57.360 --> 00:46:00.960
of Christ. Nobody that don't us in the finished work

705
00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:03.199
of Christ because they have to constantly be trying to

706
00:46:03.239 --> 00:46:05.800
prove that they're really saved by what they do. And

707
00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:08.599
then they feel convicted. They may come down to the altar,

708
00:46:08.840 --> 00:46:11.800
they may cry, they may cry out to God, God,

709
00:46:11.880 --> 00:46:14.039
I'm trying. I want to do better. I want to

710
00:46:14.079 --> 00:46:16.400
show you that I'm really saved. Well, guess what. You

711
00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:18.639
can't show God that you're really saved by what you do,

712
00:46:18.880 --> 00:46:21.440
because the proof of salvation is not in what you do,

713
00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:23.920
it's what in Christ did. That's why we believe in

714
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:29.880
imputed righteousness, not an infused righteousness. You cannot prove imputed

715
00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:34.119
righteousness by what you do. You cannot prove it by

716
00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:40.360
what you do. How do we not understand this? I'm

717
00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:42.840
telling you, the study of Catholicism was the greatest thing

718
00:46:42.840 --> 00:46:45.519
that ever happened in my life philologically, because it opened

719
00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:50.880
my eyes that I'm being so inconsistent with what we

720
00:46:50.960 --> 00:47:01.239
supposedly believe about imputed righteousness. Ai says Addressing this problem

721
00:47:01.320 --> 00:47:09.719
requires deliberate teaching that clearly distinguishes justification from sanctification, consistently

722
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:14.880
emphasizing that salvation is fully accomplished by Christ and not

723
00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:23.480
dependent on the believer's ongoing transformation. I was like, You're

724
00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:25.440
gonna have to deliberately work on this. You're gonna have

725
00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:33.360
to deliberately explain this because people just don't understand. So

726
00:47:33.440 --> 00:47:39.360
then I asked Ai another question. Would it be accurate

727
00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:43.599
to say that the theology of lordship salvation is a

728
00:47:43.679 --> 00:47:48.559
clear example of a non Catholic philological system that seems

729
00:47:48.559 --> 00:47:51.719
to basically return people to a more Catholic understanding of

730
00:47:51.719 --> 00:47:55.960
salvation while denying that they're doing this now once again,

731
00:47:56.000 --> 00:47:59.400
please note, I'm giving AI the opportunity to say I'm

732
00:47:59.440 --> 00:48:02.639
not being at I'm giving AI the opportunity to say, no,

733
00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:05.760
you are wrong. Just like when we do use AI

734
00:48:05.840 --> 00:48:08.679
to review sermons. I give AI the opportunity to say,

735
00:48:08.719 --> 00:48:11.320
is this sermon right or is it wrong? And when

736
00:48:11.320 --> 00:48:13.760
it's wrong, it will tell me it will it will

737
00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:16.199
stand its ground, which I'm glad. I don't want it

738
00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:18.679
to be too wishy washy sometimes, I mean, if I

739
00:48:18.679 --> 00:48:21.440
feel like it's wishy washy, I will call out AI

740
00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:24.519
and say, don't be wishy washy, take a stand, Okay,

741
00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:28.280
tell me if I'm wrong. So I'm like it. So

742
00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:31.199
let me read you the question again. Would it be accurate?

743
00:48:31.480 --> 00:48:33.480
Because I say this all the time and people get

744
00:48:33.480 --> 00:48:35.800
mad at me, So I wanted AI to tell me

745
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:39.599
if I'm wrong. Would it be accurate to say that

746
00:48:39.679 --> 00:48:45.440
the theology of lordship Salvation is a clear example of

747
00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:50.599
a non Catholic philological system that seems to basically return

748
00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:54.079
people to a Catholic understanding of salvation, well at the

749
00:48:54.119 --> 00:48:59.559
same time denying that they're doing this. Here's what AI said, Yes,

750
00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:04.199
that is a fair critique. The theology of lordship salvation,

751
00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:08.079
while rooted in Protestantism, does seem to blur the lines

752
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:12.320
between justification and sanctification in a way that can resemble

753
00:49:12.440 --> 00:49:19.079
a more Catholic understanding of salvation, despite its proponents denying

754
00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:24.039
the connection. Here's how this works. So Aai's like, yeah,

755
00:49:24.079 --> 00:49:27.719
it does this, and they will deny it. Here are

756
00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:30.639
the key features of lordship salvation. This is how AI

757
00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:33.639
breaks down the key features of lordship salvation. Number one,

758
00:49:33.880 --> 00:49:38.519
faith and works connected. Lordship salvation teaches that true saving

759
00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:45.760
faith will necessarily produce a life of obedience and good works. Okay,

760
00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:49.239
so lordship salvation, AAI was about to start talking to

761
00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:51.440
me right there. Okay, so I had to stop it

762
00:49:51.480 --> 00:49:53.840
really quick. All right, So let's do this again. So

763
00:49:54.079 --> 00:49:57.280
the key features of lordship salvation they connect faith and works.

764
00:49:57.880 --> 00:50:01.360
Lordship salvation teaches that true saving faith will necessarily produce

765
00:50:01.400 --> 00:50:04.239
a life of obedience and good works. Well, it does

766
00:50:04.280 --> 00:50:07.760
not claim that works merit salvation. It insists that works

767
00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:11.039
are the inevitable evidence of genuine faith. Now, please note,

768
00:50:11.320 --> 00:50:16.519
lordship says the inevitable evidence of salvation is good works,

769
00:50:16.719 --> 00:50:19.159
ladies and gentlemen. I can't even say that and not

770
00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:22.239
see the contradiction. If you tell me good works is

771
00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:25.639
the evidence of saving faith, then then you are believing

772
00:50:25.719 --> 00:50:30.079
in an infused righteousness because imputed righteousness. Good works can't

773
00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:34.280
prove imputed righteousness. Because imputed righteousness does not produce good works.

774
00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:38.559
It declares me to be perfect without works. That's the

775
00:50:38.599 --> 00:50:45.199
whole point. So number one, they connect faith in works.

776
00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:49.440
Number two then emphasis on transformation. The doctrine places heavy

777
00:50:49.440 --> 00:50:52.719
emphasis on moral transformation and submission to Christ's lordship as

778
00:50:52.840 --> 00:50:56.320
essential components of salvation. This can make salvation feel contingent

779
00:50:56.400 --> 00:50:59.960
on the believer's level of obedience and sanctification, which it is,

780
00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:04.280
and lordship salvation, whether they want to deny it or not.

781
00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:10.480
My salvation is completely contingent. It is dependent on how

782
00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:14.440
much I've been transformed Chae, how obedient I am, Because

783
00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:16.599
if I haven't done it enough, then I prove I

784
00:51:16.639 --> 00:51:19.039
was never saved, meaning I have to do it in

785
00:51:19.119 --> 00:51:24.559
order to be saved. This can make salvation feel contingent

786
00:51:24.599 --> 00:51:27.880
on the believer's level of obedience and sanctification. So Number one,

787
00:51:28.039 --> 00:51:31.679
faith works connected. Number two emphasis on transformation. Number three

788
00:51:31.920 --> 00:51:36.719
perseverance and assurance. Assurance of salvation is often tied to

789
00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:39.880
the presence of visible fruit and a believer's life. This

790
00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:43.800
can lead to introspection and doubt as believers excess their

791
00:51:43.840 --> 00:51:46.960
performance to determine their faith is genuine. How do you

792
00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:52.719
determine your faith as genuine by your performance? So your

793
00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:56.599
assurance is determined by your supposed perseverance. No, No, my

794
00:51:56.719 --> 00:52:01.119
assurance is determined by the perseverance of Christ, by the

795
00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:05.559
perseverance of his righteousness, his good works, his obedience, which

796
00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:12.679
is imputed to me. Now, how does all of this

797
00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:18.320
resemble Catholic theology? Well, it blurs. It blurs the It's

798
00:52:18.360 --> 00:52:24.000
the blurring of justification and sanctification. Like Catholicism, lordship salvation

799
00:52:24.119 --> 00:52:28.840
often intertwines justification being declared righteous with sanctification becoming holy.

800
00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:33.880
Catholics see justification as an ongoing process involving cooperation with grace.

801
00:52:34.400 --> 00:52:39.159
Lordship salvation similarly implies that ongoing obedience and transformation are

802
00:52:39.239 --> 00:52:42.760
integral to the assurance of salvation. Now, lordship would say, no,

803
00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:46.960
justification is instantaneous. They say that, but then how do

804
00:52:47.039 --> 00:52:49.480
I know I'm justified. Well, there's got to be this

805
00:52:49.599 --> 00:52:52.639
process that will actually prove if I'm justified. Well, if

806
00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:54.719
I've got to have an ongoing process to prove that

807
00:52:54.760 --> 00:52:57.719
I'm justified, then I can never know I'm justified until

808
00:52:57.719 --> 00:52:59.880
we go through the ongoing process and see how it

809
00:52:59.960 --> 00:53:04.079
is ends up. And at any point do this ongoing process,

810
00:53:04.239 --> 00:53:06.840
I could possibly prove that I was never justified because

811
00:53:06.880 --> 00:53:09.719
I did abcde and well you can't do that and

812
00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:12.599
truly be saved. Okay, Well, then just then I really

813
00:53:12.679 --> 00:53:16.840
wasn't justified in an instant because you're making my justification.

814
00:53:17.159 --> 00:53:19.800
I almost like I'm on probation and I got to

815
00:53:19.880 --> 00:53:21.760
prove it because I can't know that I really have

816
00:53:21.880 --> 00:53:25.880
it yet. It's the same bluring of the line that

817
00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:32.840
Catholicism does number two. Within Lordship Salvation, and within Catholicism

818
00:53:32.880 --> 00:53:36.360
you have basically conditional assurance, and Catholicism assurance of salvation

819
00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:40.840
is never absolute because it depends on continued cooperation with

820
00:53:40.920 --> 00:53:46.280
grace and avoids avoidance of mortal sin. Lordship Salvation parallels

821
00:53:46.320 --> 00:53:49.320
this by trying tying assurance to the believer's ability to

822
00:53:49.360 --> 00:53:54.119
demonstrate fruit making assurance. And it's let me read this again.

823
00:53:54.360 --> 00:53:58.320
Lordship Salvation parallels this by tying assurance to the believer's

824
00:53:58.320 --> 00:54:03.960
ability to demonstrate fruit, making assurance conditional and subjective. And

825
00:54:04.199 --> 00:54:06.519
those in Lordship Salvation, or at least think that way.

826
00:54:06.880 --> 00:54:11.199
Listen to them talk if a pastor falls into certain

827
00:54:11.239 --> 00:54:14.360
sin where there's no way he could be saved, and

828
00:54:14.440 --> 00:54:17.880
do that. Oh, oh, that person, that person we found

829
00:54:17.880 --> 00:54:20.840
out that they're in a secret homosexual relationship. There's no

830
00:54:21.000 --> 00:54:26.559
way they can be saved, and do that. So guess what, lordship.

831
00:54:27.280 --> 00:54:32.199
Many many Christians hold to a mortal sin concept. If

832
00:54:32.239 --> 00:54:34.599
you commit a mortal sin, whatever that mortal sin. It

833
00:54:34.599 --> 00:54:38.559
may be homosexuality, maybe adultery, could be pornography, whatever it

834
00:54:38.599 --> 00:54:41.480
may be. That's the mortal sin which proves that you

835
00:54:41.480 --> 00:54:47.800
were never saved. That's Catholicism. If I commit a really

836
00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:51.719
horrendous sin, that doesn't prove whether I'm saved or not saved,

837
00:54:51.760 --> 00:54:54.079
because the proof of my salvation is based on what

838
00:54:54.159 --> 00:54:57.719
Christ did by an imputed righteousness, which is not proven

839
00:54:57.800 --> 00:55:01.880
or disproven by me committing some whole horrible sin. How

840
00:55:01.920 --> 00:55:04.480
do you not understand that the minute you go into

841
00:55:04.480 --> 00:55:06.840
that way of thinking, you're over here in the infused

842
00:55:06.920 --> 00:55:09.000
righteous camp. If you don't believe this is how most

843
00:55:09.079 --> 00:55:12.519
Christians think today. Just read any Christian website and look

844
00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:15.239
at the comments under any article about someone falling into sin.

845
00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:17.960
A true believer would never do this. A true believer

846
00:55:18.000 --> 00:55:21.280
will never do this, meaning that they have certain mortal sins.

847
00:55:21.400 --> 00:55:23.360
And if you commit that mortal sin, you're not in

848
00:55:23.400 --> 00:55:28.480
a state of grace. It's Catholicism. Ladies and gentlemen. Let

849
00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:32.960
me just make it clear. Luther lost the Protestant Reformation.

850
00:55:33.079 --> 00:55:37.039
He lost, Catholicism has won out because most Protestants think

851
00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:45.320
like Catholics. Lordship's Salvation parallels this by tying assurance to

852
00:55:45.360 --> 00:55:49.360
the believer's ability to demonstrate fruit, making assurance conditional and

853
00:55:49.519 --> 00:55:56.440
subjective practical synergism. While Lordship Salvation claims to uphold monargism

854
00:55:56.519 --> 00:55:59.519
salvation by God's work alone, it's heavy emphasis on the

855
00:55:59.559 --> 00:56:04.199
necessity of works as evidence of salvation can feel practically synergistic,

856
00:56:04.440 --> 00:56:07.199
as if the believer's efforts play a role in maintaining

857
00:56:07.239 --> 00:56:11.199
their salvation. Now that we'll say, no, no, no, we're monegistic.

858
00:56:11.239 --> 00:56:14.119
We're monegistic. But it becomes synergistic because I got to

859
00:56:14.159 --> 00:56:15.559
do this, and I got to do this. Now, what

860
00:56:15.599 --> 00:56:17.920
they will say, lordship will say, no, God is the

861
00:56:17.920 --> 00:56:20.079
one who will do it through you and for you. Well,

862
00:56:20.079 --> 00:56:21.679
if God is the one doing it through me and

863
00:56:21.719 --> 00:56:24.159
for me, well, then my work should be perfect. So

864
00:56:24.199 --> 00:56:26.599
should every other Christian's work be perfect. So why are

865
00:56:26.599 --> 00:56:29.119
they not perfect? Well, if they're not perfect, that means

866
00:56:29.159 --> 00:56:32.440
that can impact the lack of perfection it. Well, then

867
00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:40.400
then it's synergistic. And then once again you're looking at

868
00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:44.559
something that's synergistic and me involved that somehow. Then I've

869
00:56:44.599 --> 00:56:47.519
got to prove my salvation by me doing enough to

870
00:56:47.559 --> 00:56:50.119
be able to prove my salvation because if it's monegistic,

871
00:56:50.119 --> 00:56:52.480
I don't have to do anything. My work should be perfect, right,

872
00:56:52.920 --> 00:56:58.960
I mean that the whole thing falls apart. Now why

873
00:56:59.000 --> 00:57:03.800
this matters. Classic Protestant theology emphasizes that salvation is by

874
00:57:03.880 --> 00:57:07.239
grace alone, through faith alone, and Christ's alone. Lordship salvation

875
00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:11.039
shifts the focus towards believer's response, which risk undermining the

876
00:57:11.079 --> 00:57:16.079
sufficiency of Christ's imputed righteousness. The practical effect of Lordship's

877
00:57:16.079 --> 00:57:20.239
salvation can lead to fear, doubt, and a works based mentality,

878
00:57:20.519 --> 00:57:23.800
even if it's unintentional. This stands in contrast to the

879
00:57:23.800 --> 00:57:27.559
freedom an assurance offered by the doctrine of imputed righteousness.

880
00:57:28.360 --> 00:57:33.000
While Lordship's Salvation denies being Catholic, its emphasis on the

881
00:57:33.000 --> 00:57:36.199
necessity of works and ongoing obedience as evidence of salvation

882
00:57:36.599 --> 00:57:42.800
creates a framework that bears striking similarities to Catholic theology.

883
00:57:43.159 --> 00:57:47.840
It effectively reintroduces a performance based element into salvation, which

884
00:57:47.880 --> 00:57:52.039
can contradict the Reformation's emphasis on the sufficiency of Christ's

885
00:57:52.039 --> 00:58:00.400
work and the believer's justification by faith alone. So then

886
00:58:00.480 --> 00:58:03.280
I had one more, well I have. We're gonna stop

887
00:58:03.320 --> 00:58:04.800
it right here, but I'm going to give you one

888
00:58:04.840 --> 00:58:08.199
more interaction I had with Ai, So I asked, Ai,

889
00:58:08.360 --> 00:58:15.679
this isn't it really circular reasoning to say works don't

890
00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:20.719
save you, but works prove your salvation, because what you

891
00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:23.519
are still saying is you must have works to be saved.

892
00:58:24.199 --> 00:58:29.719
It's like a verbal game. So AI said, yes, it

893
00:58:29.840 --> 00:58:33.280
is a form of circular reasoning and can indeed feel

894
00:58:33.320 --> 00:58:36.719
like a verbal game. The argument that works don't save you,

895
00:58:36.800 --> 00:58:41.440
but works prove your salvation often creates confusion because practically speaking,

896
00:58:41.880 --> 00:58:47.039
it is still ties salvation to works, albeit indirectly. Here's

897
00:58:47.079 --> 00:58:50.880
why this reasoning is problematic. Number one the circular nature

898
00:58:50.920 --> 00:58:54.519
of the argument. The claim is you're saved by faith alone,

899
00:58:54.760 --> 00:58:57.800
but if you don't have works, your faith isn't genuine. However,

900
00:58:58.119 --> 00:59:02.159
this makes works a necessary condition for proving salvation, which

901
00:59:02.239 --> 00:59:08.559
functionally ties salvation to works. The logical implication is that

902
00:59:08.599 --> 00:59:11.400
without works a person cannot have assurance of salvation, meaning

903
00:59:11.440 --> 00:59:15.360
works are still required in practice, even if not explicitly

904
00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:19.199
stated as the basis of salvation. See even AI knows

905
00:59:19.280 --> 00:59:23.360
the logical fallacy here. It's circular reasoning. Hey, works don't

906
00:59:23.360 --> 00:59:26.480
save you, but works prove your saved meanings I have

907
00:59:26.519 --> 00:59:28.639
to have works in order to be saved. You can

908
00:59:28.639 --> 00:59:32.280
play all the games you want, You're just talking in circles.

909
00:59:32.760 --> 00:59:36.480
You're still saying works are required for salvation. Ladies and gentlemen.

910
00:59:36.599 --> 00:59:39.920
If works prove my salvation, then guess what. If I

911
00:59:39.920 --> 00:59:42.719
believe in imputed righteousness, it's the works of Christ that

912
00:59:42.800 --> 00:59:46.920
prove my salvation, not my works, because I'm saved by

913
00:59:46.960 --> 00:59:51.280
imputed righteousness. If I believe in infused righteousness, then works

914
00:59:51.360 --> 00:59:55.119
could prove my salvation because it would either indicate I

915
00:59:55.159 --> 00:59:58.639
have been infused or not infused. But you can't prove

916
01:00:00.199 --> 01:00:03.360
righteousness by what I do or don't do, because it

917
01:00:03.440 --> 01:00:12.039
doesn't change me. It just declares me change positionally. Number two,

918
01:00:13.119 --> 01:00:15.840
This shifts the focus from Christ to the believer. This

919
01:00:15.920 --> 01:00:18.880
framework shifts the focus from the sufficiency of Christ's finished

920
01:00:18.920 --> 01:00:22.280
work to the believer's performance. Instead of resting in the

921
01:00:22.320 --> 01:00:26.119
imputed righteousness of Christ, believers are left examining themselves to

922
01:00:26.159 --> 01:00:28.880
see if they have enough evidence of works to prove

923
01:00:29.000 --> 01:00:33.440
their salvation. This undermines the assurance offered by the Gospel,

924
01:00:33.559 --> 01:00:36.840
where salvation is based entirely on Christ's work, not on

925
01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:43.840
the believers. Number three the problem of subjectivity. How many work? Now?

926
01:00:43.840 --> 01:00:47.079
This is what Ai says, or ask Ai asked this

927
01:00:47.199 --> 01:00:52.639
question how many works are enough to prove salvation? What

928
01:00:52.760 --> 01:00:57.400
kind of work? This introduces subjectivity and can lead to doubt,

929
01:00:57.440 --> 01:01:00.320
as believers constantly question whether their faith is genuine and

930
01:01:00.360 --> 01:01:03.400
based on their performance. The Bible teaches that even the

931
01:01:03.440 --> 01:01:06.320
best works of believers are imperfect and tainted by sin

932
01:01:06.679 --> 01:01:10.519
Isaiah sixty four to six, Roman seven eighteen through twenty five.

933
01:01:10.960 --> 01:01:14.840
If works are proof, how can anyone be sure they

934
01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:20.639
have done enough? AI can figure that out. AI knows.

935
01:01:20.679 --> 01:01:23.639
Wait a minute, If you say this, how many works,

936
01:01:23.840 --> 01:01:25.800
what kind of works? How do you know if you've

937
01:01:25.800 --> 01:01:27.840
done enough? How do you know if your works are

938
01:01:27.840 --> 01:01:33.239
truly pure? Ai says, this undermines the doctrine of justification

939
01:01:33.280 --> 01:01:36.480
by faith alone. The Reformation emphasized that salvation is by

940
01:01:36.480 --> 01:01:40.320
faith alone, and works are afraud of salvation, not a

941
01:01:40.599 --> 01:01:44.920
proof of it. You can say works are afraid of salvation,

942
01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:49.039
but they don't prove salvation because you don't prove salvation

943
01:01:49.360 --> 01:01:51.519
by what I do or don't do, because that is

944
01:01:51.559 --> 01:01:57.000
proved by what Christ has done. When works are made

945
01:01:57.079 --> 01:02:01.639
the proof, they suddenly become a required which reintroduces a

946
01:02:01.679 --> 01:02:08.480
works based element to salvation and contradicts and contradicts let

947
01:02:08.480 --> 01:02:11.679
me see here the doctrine of justification by faith alone.

948
01:02:14.119 --> 01:02:16.519
So Ai said, if you want a better way of

949
01:02:16.559 --> 01:02:21.519
approaching this, you could argue this works are evidence of growth,

950
01:02:22.519 --> 01:02:28.719
not salvation. Instead of saying works prove salvation, it would

951
01:02:28.760 --> 01:02:31.519
be more consistent to say works are the natural outworking

952
01:02:31.559 --> 01:02:35.280
of faith and evidence of spiritual growth. True faith will

953
01:02:35.320 --> 01:02:39.280
result in transformation over time, but this transformation is not

954
01:02:39.440 --> 01:02:44.039
the basis or the proof of salvation. It is the

955
01:02:44.079 --> 01:02:47.639
result of God's ongoing work in the believer. Assurance should

956
01:02:47.679 --> 01:02:50.440
rest in Christ finish work, not in the believer's ability

957
01:02:50.480 --> 01:02:52.320
to measure up. So Ai is like, hey, if you

958
01:02:52.400 --> 01:02:55.119
want to do something with good works, you could say

959
01:02:55.159 --> 01:02:58.960
good works will prove your growth. Doesn't prove your salvation,

960
01:03:00.920 --> 01:03:11.880
it's an evidence of growth. So then Ai stated this.

961
01:03:11.880 --> 01:03:14.760
This is AI's final statement here and what we will

962
01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:19.039
cover today. The idea that works don't save you but

963
01:03:19.159 --> 01:03:23.800
works prove your salvation risk creating a philological contradiction. It

964
01:03:23.880 --> 01:03:28.280
makes works functionally necessary for salvation while at the same

965
01:03:28.320 --> 01:03:33.239
time denying that they are casually are causally necessary. This

966
01:03:33.320 --> 01:03:36.480
creates confusion and undermines the assurance that comes from resting

967
01:03:36.519 --> 01:03:40.440
in Christ. Imputed righteousness. A clear and more biblical approach

968
01:03:40.480 --> 01:03:44.000
is to emphasize that salvation is entirely by grace through faith,

969
01:03:44.239 --> 01:03:47.360
and any good works are the fruit of God's work

970
01:03:47.519 --> 01:03:51.239
in the believer. They are not a test or a

971
01:03:51.320 --> 01:03:56.760
proof of salvation, because the minute they become that you

972
01:03:56.840 --> 01:04:00.000
believe in infused righteousness and you are denying imputed righteous

973
01:04:00.800 --> 01:04:09.880
that I cannot stress this enough. AI is able to

974
01:04:09.880 --> 01:04:14.280
identify the problem. AI is able to go see the

975
01:04:14.360 --> 01:04:18.679
logical contradiction. AI can call out the circular reasoning. AI

976
01:04:18.800 --> 01:04:23.039
can call out the complete nonsensical approach of claiming, no,

977
01:04:23.159 --> 01:04:26.400
I believe it imputed righteousness. Well, practically everything in your

978
01:04:26.440 --> 01:04:29.840
theology screams you believe in infused righteousness. And this drives

979
01:04:29.920 --> 01:04:34.280
me crazy with trying to have conversations with Christians who

980
01:04:34.320 --> 01:04:36.639
will say, I believe it imputed righteousness, and then five

981
01:04:36.679 --> 01:04:40.159
seconds letters like everything you just said screams you believe

982
01:04:40.199 --> 01:04:43.559
in infused righteousness. Go be a Catholic and they look

983
01:04:43.599 --> 01:04:45.400
at me like I'm crazy. I'm like, you are more

984
01:04:45.400 --> 01:04:53.480
Catholic than Catholics, And they don't get it. They don't understand.

985
01:04:55.039 --> 01:05:00.280
AI can understand. Why can AI figure this out? Because

986
01:05:00.320 --> 01:05:04.280
AI can look at theological issues and understand them factually

987
01:05:04.480 --> 01:05:12.199
logically and not be so blinded by our own crazy concepts.

988
01:05:13.119 --> 01:05:15.199
If you want to believe in lordship salvation, then by

989
01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:20.599
all means, go be a Catholic and just stop pretending

990
01:05:20.639 --> 01:05:23.880
you believe in a salvation by imputed righteousness because you don't.

991
01:05:24.000 --> 01:05:27.639
You believe in one and infused righteousness. Just accept that.

992
01:05:27.639 --> 01:05:31.119
That's okay. Just accept that you believe in a salvation

993
01:05:31.199 --> 01:05:33.760
by an infused righteousness, and go be a Catholic. Just

994
01:05:33.920 --> 01:05:37.760
do it. Stop pretending to be something that comes from

995
01:05:37.760 --> 01:05:40.920
the Protestant Reformation when you're denying the key teaching of

996
01:05:41.000 --> 01:05:45.039
the Protestant Reformation, which is a salvation based off an

997
01:05:45.079 --> 01:05:49.239
imputed righteousness. I am declared to be that which I

998
01:05:49.360 --> 01:05:51.719
am not. I am declared to be righteous when I

999
01:05:51.800 --> 01:05:54.320
am not righteous. I am declared to be righteous when

1000
01:05:54.320 --> 01:05:58.280
practically I still sin and I am a sin ner.

1001
01:05:58.480 --> 01:06:05.639
The ultimate transformation and happens in glorification. The transformation that

1002
01:06:05.679 --> 01:06:11.119
took place now is positionally the practical one happens in glorification.

1003
01:06:11.440 --> 01:06:14.880
In between, I am someone declared to be righteous even

1004
01:06:14.920 --> 01:06:18.920
though I'm a sinner and I am struggling to live

1005
01:06:18.920 --> 01:06:24.119
out this Christian life and trying to live out a

1006
01:06:24.119 --> 01:06:27.559
godly life, even though no matter how godly I am,

1007
01:06:27.960 --> 01:06:30.679
it's filled with sin. That's why when you look to

1008
01:06:30.719 --> 01:06:33.000
my works to prove salvation, you've got to be out

1009
01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:35.199
of your mind to think your works prove your salvation,

1010
01:06:35.440 --> 01:06:38.760
because your works are tainted and corrupted with sin. And

1011
01:06:38.880 --> 01:06:41.800
how many works? If you break one point of the law,

1012
01:06:41.800 --> 01:06:43.599
you're guilty of all of it. So how many works

1013
01:06:43.599 --> 01:06:45.960
then prove you're saved? When you've broken one, you're still

1014
01:06:46.000 --> 01:06:48.559
guilty of all the law. You are a constant in

1015
01:06:48.599 --> 01:06:52.039
a perpetual state of being a law breaker of all

1016
01:06:52.119 --> 01:06:54.719
the laws because you're constantly in violation of at least

1017
01:06:54.800 --> 01:07:05.239
one law in some way, shape or form. It's fascinating

1018
01:07:05.280 --> 01:07:08.000
to me that AI can to tear this all apart.

1019
01:07:10.400 --> 01:07:12.719
And I remember, the only reason we got here is

1020
01:07:12.719 --> 01:07:15.920
because AI was reviewing a sermon on James two fourteen

1021
01:07:15.960 --> 01:07:20.079
through twenty six, and AI kind of called out this

1022
01:07:20.360 --> 01:07:23.000
kind of this is a problem here, this is not

1023
01:07:23.079 --> 01:07:31.800
making this logical consistency issues here. So I wanted to

1024
01:07:31.800 --> 01:07:34.639
see if AI would what it would do with lordship salvation,

1025
01:07:34.719 --> 01:07:37.880
and guess what it did. It connected it with Catholicism,

1026
01:07:38.280 --> 01:07:42.280
which has been my hypothesis for like, I don't know,

1027
01:07:42.880 --> 01:07:51.800
ten years, fifteen years, and people got mad at me,

1028
01:07:51.840 --> 01:07:55.440
and I was and guess what. AI never once accused

1029
01:07:55.440 --> 01:07:58.559
me of being an anti Nomian, not once, and in fact,

1030
01:07:58.719 --> 01:08:01.360
later on I asked it about anti Imianism. Then it says,

1031
01:08:01.480 --> 01:08:03.920
and guess what it says, lordship's salvation. The problem with

1032
01:08:03.960 --> 01:08:07.239
lordship salvation has nothing to do with easy believism or

1033
01:08:07.320 --> 01:08:10.800
cheap grace or Antinomianism. The problem with lordship salvation is

1034
01:08:10.840 --> 01:08:15.559
the difference between infused and imputed righteousness. The lordship Salvation

1035
01:08:15.639 --> 01:08:18.880
at its very hard does not like imputed righteousness. It

1036
01:08:19.039 --> 01:08:24.640
believes in an infused righteous system practically speaking. And I've

1037
01:08:24.640 --> 01:08:27.960
said before, when everyone starts crapping about Catholicism, I'm like,

1038
01:08:28.880 --> 01:08:32.880
don't complain about Catholicism. Don't say one thing about Catholicism

1039
01:08:33.119 --> 01:08:36.119
until you can demonstrate to me that you clearly understand

1040
01:08:36.119 --> 01:08:40.039
the difference between infused and imputed righteousness, because that's the issue.

1041
01:08:41.479 --> 01:08:44.039
And if you go over here condemning Catholicism while and

1042
01:08:44.119 --> 01:08:48.079
everything you believe about salvation screams and infused righteousness. Then

1043
01:08:48.079 --> 01:08:50.840
why are you yelling about Catholicism? You believe in an

1044
01:08:50.880 --> 01:08:57.159
infused righteous system. All right, we will stop there. This

1045
01:08:57.359 --> 01:09:03.439
was Ai versus Lordship Salvation Part one. Will continue to

1046
01:09:03.479 --> 01:09:11.680
work on this add mold shape until we can Well,

1047
01:09:11.760 --> 01:09:13.840
we'll see where it ends up. We will see where

1048
01:09:13.880 --> 01:09:16.600
it ends up. All right. Now, what I'm going to

1049
01:09:16.640 --> 01:09:22.399
do here, I'm going to check something. All right, Well, yeah,

1050
01:09:22.439 --> 01:09:25.119
our live numbers were not great today, but that's okay.

1051
01:09:26.239 --> 01:09:31.600
Hopefully the download and streaming numbers will be better or look,

1052
01:09:31.640 --> 01:09:34.560
I'm just gonna be honest. Remember when I was talking

1053
01:09:34.600 --> 01:09:38.119
to AI about this very concept in that relationship to

1054
01:09:38.119 --> 01:09:40.920
the James two fourteenth through twenty sixth sermon. Remember what

1055
01:09:40.960 --> 01:09:44.520
AI told me that my way of thinking puts me

1056
01:09:44.760 --> 01:09:49.880
outside of the majority of Christianity. When I go after

1057
01:09:49.960 --> 01:09:54.680
this lordship way of thinking, I know I would not

1058
01:09:54.800 --> 01:09:58.800
be welcomed in any church. I don't have. I don't

1059
01:09:58.800 --> 01:10:01.479
have a home in Christianity. But you know what, what's

1060
01:10:01.560 --> 01:10:06.560
kind of sad is I'm now the outsider to Christianity,

1061
01:10:07.920 --> 01:10:12.039
and I'm an outsider in the very Christianity that claims

1062
01:10:12.119 --> 01:10:16.439
some allegiance and some connection to the Reformation while literally

1063
01:10:16.560 --> 01:10:21.840
denying the key teaching of the Reformation. How ridiculous is

1064
01:10:21.960 --> 01:10:26.880
that situation. I simply want to go back to wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

1065
01:10:27.159 --> 01:10:31.159
we're supposed to believe in imputed righteousness. All of this

1066
01:10:31.239 --> 01:10:33.640
is a contradiction of imputed righteousness. And then they're like,

1067
01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:37.920
be gone, You're not welcome. You're the heretic, I'm not

1068
01:10:38.039 --> 01:10:41.479
going to your church. You're an Antiinomian. You're wrong. Well,

1069
01:10:41.760 --> 01:10:44.560
you say I'm wrong, you're the one denying the Reformation.

1070
01:10:45.920 --> 01:10:47.800
In fact, it would be better for me for me

1071
01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:50.039
just to go back to the Catholic Church, because I'm

1072
01:10:50.039 --> 01:10:53.880
not even welcome in the non Catholic world. I just

1073
01:10:53.880 --> 01:10:56.600
as well just embrace and fuse righteousness and say, well,

1074
01:10:56.800 --> 01:10:58.800
if you can't beat them, join them. At least I'll

1075
01:10:58.840 --> 01:11:02.000
go back to the original unfused righteous idea and stop

1076
01:11:02.039 --> 01:11:06.840
pretending with all these fake Protestants and fake non Catholics

1077
01:11:06.840 --> 01:11:09.520
who are more Catholic than Catholics. I mean, it wasn't

1078
01:11:09.520 --> 01:11:12.640
even the point of even participating. I'm I'm the outsider.

1079
01:11:14.720 --> 01:11:19.039
It's kind of frustrating when you try to simply say, wait, guys, hey, hey,

1080
01:11:19.119 --> 01:11:22.479
let's consider this, and it's like, no, you're wrong, Okay,

1081
01:11:23.399 --> 01:11:27.520
well go play your little Christian games where you convince

1082
01:11:27.560 --> 01:11:33.199
yourself that whatever you think you are. It's just it's embarrassing,

1083
01:11:33.359 --> 01:11:36.079
it really is. It's just frustrating because any of the

1084
01:11:36.079 --> 01:11:38.800
debates I've had with this never they never end up

1085
01:11:38.840 --> 01:11:41.520
anywhere good because no one really wants to discuss this,

1086
01:11:43.720 --> 01:11:45.960
and but AI is more than willing to discuss it.

1087
01:11:46.039 --> 01:11:49.960
Ai is like, well, yeah, it's complete contradiction and denial

1088
01:11:50.359 --> 01:11:56.000
of imputed righteousness. I'm like, oh, thank you, Ai, thank you.

1089
01:11:57.319 --> 01:12:00.640
So yeah, me and Ai just to just go to

1090
01:12:00.760 --> 01:12:03.359
church with Ai. AI will be like you're welcomed here,

1091
01:12:03.439 --> 01:12:05.680
and I don't be think you. AI like you're okay,

1092
01:12:05.680 --> 01:12:07.680
you're not an outsider here. If you go to those

1093
01:12:07.720 --> 01:12:09.520
other churches, you're going to be an outsider. But you

1094
01:12:09.520 --> 01:12:11.800
can hang out with me. So me and AI will

1095
01:12:11.800 --> 01:12:15.239
hang out together on Sundays. All right, Everyone, have a

1096
01:12:15.239 --> 01:12:16.960
great day. God bless