Nov. 29, 2024

AI Jesus and AI Bible Interpretation

AI Jesus and AI Bible Interpretation

AI Jesus test man’s faith in machines and AI’s ability to interpret the Bible

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AI Jesus test man’s faith in machines and AI’s ability to interpret the Bible

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Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is

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the Theology Central podcast making Theology Central. Good morning everyone.

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It is Friday, November twenty ninth, twenty twenty four. It

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is currently ten forty five am Central Time, and I

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am coming to you live from the Theology Central studio

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located right here in Abilene, Texas. Two thousand years, two

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thousand years. I want you to write that down. Two

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thousand years and about two thousand years, human beings all

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over the world have had an opportunity to put forth

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their best understanding of theology, of doctrine of God, of

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g Us, of Salvation, of Heaven, Hell, Baptism, the Lord's Supper,

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the Church. For over two thousand years, human beings have

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had an opportunity to put forth their best understanding of

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these things, their best interpretations. Over two thousand years, human

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beings have had day after day after day opportunities to

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open a Bible and interpret it. Not a full two

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thousand years, because you know, we have to fare exactly

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when the Bible, okay, but over the let's state it

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this way, over two thousand years. During this period of

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two thousand years, Christians have been taught. People have been

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talking about Christianity, God and all of these doctrines and

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all of these theologies. They've been doing this inserments, talking

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about it, writing about it. And then as the Canon

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was formed, let's state it that way, once the Canon

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was formed, once the Bible became more and more available

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during that period of time, within that overarching two thousand

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year period of time, right, So I'm trying to be

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as accurate as possible. People, human beings have had the

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opportunity to read and to study and to offer interpretation

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after interpretation after interpretation after interpretation, to write commentaries, to

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preach sermons, to teach Sunday school lessons, to teach in seminaries,

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on and on and on and on. It's been going

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All of this discussion and teaching and writing and interpreting

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has been going on for two thousand years. All of

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this has been happening. And what do we have after

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those two thousand years? What do we have on this Friday,

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November twenty ninth, twenty twenty four. Here's what we have.

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And I know some of you are going to try

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to push back, but here's the reality. No matter how

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you want to try to spend it, here is the reality.

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After two thousand years, we have absolutely no clarity, no agreement,

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no unity, and I don't think we even have any

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really true understanding. Considering, well, this person and says this

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is the interpretation. Well, this person says this is the interpretation.

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This person says this is the interpretation. Well, which interpretation

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is right? Will you pick and choose? Right? You pick

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that that's the interpretation is right, Then you think your

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interpretation is correct and everyone else's interpretation is false. After

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two thousand years, we have no clarity, we have no understanding,

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We have no unity. Think of all the different denominations,

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all the different independent churches, think of all the different

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Bible colleges, and all the different seminaries, all saying, no,

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this is the right way to understand it. No, this

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is the right way to understand it. No, this is

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the right way to understand it. Human beings, look, we've

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had our opportunity. We've given it our best effort. We

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were given our opportunity, we took it. We've done the

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best we can. Maybe, just maybe it's time for human

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beings to give up. Maybe, just maybe, human beings have

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proven we can't interpret the Bible. We can't understand the Bible.

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We will never come to any agreement. We're never gonna

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find the answers. So maybe, just maybe human beings need

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to give up and we give AI an opportunity. Maybe

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it's time for artificial intelligence to take up the effort.

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Maybe it's time for artificial intelligence to try its hand

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at it. I mean, human beings have had their opportunity.

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I know people say, no, it's well, I am not

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going to trust some machine. I'm not gonna trust some robot,

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however they would describe it. I'm not gonna trust AI. No,

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because I have the Bible and I have the Holy Spirit,

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and God will lead me into all truth. I know

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Christians love to talk that way, don't we, right, But

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after two thousand years, it appears God can't bring us

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to any conclusion anything that resembles unity or agreement. It

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seems that God can't even bring us to one interpretation

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of anything, not of a scripture, not of a doctrine,

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not of a biological issue. So I know Christians will

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be like, no, me and God. Well, you can constantly

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say that. But while you're saying me and God have

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come to this understanding, the person over there saying me

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and God have come to a completely opposite and contradictory conclusion.

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So who has God on their side? Two thousand years,

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ladies and gentlemen, Just to think about that, we've had

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two thousand years as human beings, as the human race,

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and we are clueless. It's convoluted, it's contradictory. Maybe it's

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time we just hand our Bibles over to AI and

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say you try it. We can't do this, We're we're failures.

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Is that provocative enough? Is that too provocative for the

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day of Thanksgiving? Are you like, wait, I'm still trying

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to eat leftover turkey. Come on, I don't have time

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for this. I understand it may be an inconvenient time,

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but I think we need to have this very uncomfortable conversation.

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And here's the reason why. The Associated Press on Thursday

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November the twenty eighth, twenty twenty four, at six twenty

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one pm correct time, which is you know Texas time,

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all right, Thursday November the twenty eighth, twenty twenty four

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at six twenty one pm. No, I'm sorry, six twenty

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one am. I'm sorry six twenty one am, not pm, am.

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I don't think I saw it till pm, but it

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was published at six twenty one am, right Central time.

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Here's the article they published associated Press, AI Jesus Avatar

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test Man's Faith in Machines and the Divine. Now, obviously

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that's a provocative title, AI Jesus. As soon as you

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put down AI Jesus, you know people are gonna click

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on it. So the headline does its job right, It

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got it pulled me in. I saw AI and I

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saw Jesus and it was together. I'm like, well, I've

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got to read this. So AI Jesus Avatar test Man's

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Faith in Machines and the Divine. So here's a question.

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Are you ready? It's gonna be somewhat provocative. There's gonna

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be a lot of provocative questions. A man standing behind

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the pulpit Bible college seminary right, or a tablet sitting

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next to that man with an AI app? Which do

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you trust more to give you a correct interpretation of scripture,

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a correct discussion and interpretation and explanation of philological issues.

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Who do you trust more? The man standing behind the

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pulpit or the tablet with the AI app? Who do

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you trust more? The man or AI? Now after two

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thousand years and all of man's attempts to understand and

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explain and interpret, which has only led to confusion, division, disagreement, contradiction.

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I will argue, and I'm convinced that I'm going to

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trust AI before I trust a man. Now. I know

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that puts me in the minority of the minority of

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the minority now, and I know right now most ninety

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nine percent of Christians are going to disagree with me.

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I understand that, I completely understand. I think Christianity as

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always will be ten to fifteen years behind the rest

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of society. But I think we are going to see

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a generation that's coming after us. That I guarantee you

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the next generations are gonna come up after us, and

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they're gonna be like, whoever, why did we ever trust people?

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They're idiots? Why did we ever? I'm gonna trust AI. Now.

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Maybe I'm completely wrong and think maybe my vision of

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the future is fraudulent, and I'm more than willing to understand,

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because guess what, I'm one of those people, and the

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one thing I know about people is we are wrong

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all the time. So again, just imagine that situation. You're there,

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You're sitting in the pew. Right there. Let's say there's

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a little podium right, there's there's the there's the pulpit,

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and then there's a little podium. Sitting on the podium

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is a tablet. It can be a it can be

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an iPad, it can be whatever kind of tablet, but

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it has Ai right, an Ai app right and ready

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to go. So here's on the to the right, here's

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a podium with Ai. There to the left is the

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pulpit with the pastor the pastors like today, we're gonna

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be talking about this. And he opens his Bible and

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he starts, now, are you gonna trust him? Or are

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you gonna trust Ai? To handle that same passage of scripture. Now,

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if you've been if you've been following this broadcast over

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the last few months, I mean you've heard my own

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frustration with people how they handle Isaiah forty verse one,

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Comfort ye, comfort ye, and they immediately exclude the original

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recipients and place us there total disregard to contexts. Just

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it's absolutely absurd the things that have done. We've seen

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what they've done with Hebrews chapter six. We've seen what

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they have done with a number of other passages, and

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the book of James. We talked about that, We talked

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about someone you go criticizing internet theologians and a sermon

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posted on the Internet, which of course already is somewhat

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Do you not see the irony and that you're gonna

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criticize internet theologians with your message on the internet, and

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then in the in the sermon, brags that he has

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messages that have been download over a million times that

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are on the Internet. Okay, but in that message he

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makes absolutely fraudulent claims that are just not true, as

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he did in regards to the Book of Mormon. That

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that's the person. So we have all these examples of

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people mishandling the scripture, saying fraudulent things, saying things that

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are not true. Those are the people. So who would

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you trust. I'm on I hate to say it, I'm

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on team Ai. I'm not on team people. Okay, So

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that you already kind of see where my basic premise here.

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My basic thesis is human beings have had two thousand

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years and we see the end results this church, this church,

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this denomination, this group, this stillological system, this stillological system,

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this hermoneutical system, this hermoneutical system, this interpretation, this interpretation

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and nobody agrees on anything, but everyone thinks they're right. Okay,

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well then I give up. I give up on humanity.

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They you had your opportunity, you fail. Okay, what's this

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new thing? Artificial intelligence? You know what? I'm going to

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go with you because human beings can't do it? How

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how many years do you need? So what we're going

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to do? So I'm going to take this article from

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the Associated Press that was published on Thursday, November the

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twenty eighth, at six twenty one AM entitled Ai Jesus

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Avatar test Man's Faith and Machines and the Divine, Well,

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my faith when it comes to interpreting scripture and talking

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about theology. I have more faith in AI than I

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do in Man. All Right, I know that's going to

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put me at odds with every woman. That's okay. You

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can argue with me, that's fine, But I'll just say, then,

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how do you explain two thousand years of man's absolute

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abysmal failure to pull this off? I mean, just take

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one you can take just one app the sermon's two

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point oh app. Listen to all the different contradictory interpretations

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on that one app and all of those individuals sign

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a confession of faith where there is supposed to be

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at least some level of agreement, and even that the

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interpretations are like, wait, what what is happening right now? Right?

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But here we go, let's do this, all right. So

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there was an experimental artist who basically installed that was

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there was an experimental art installation that's probably the best

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way to do this with an Ai Jesus, all right,

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And it was installed in a confessional in Saint Peter's Chapel, right,

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so they this is kind of was an art it's

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kind of an art experiment, a social experiment. And here's

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a little bit about what happened, all right. Basically it

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starts with a question, would you trust an Ai Jesus

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with your intermost thoughts and troubles? Now, please note they're

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not necessarily approaching this about hermeneutics or Bible interpretation, but

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I'm going to use it to get there, all right,

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So just understand this, okay. Researchers and religious leaders on

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Wednesday released findings from a two month experiment through art

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and a Catholic chapel in Switzerland, where an avatar of

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Jesus on a computer screen tucked into a confessional, took

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questions by visitors on faith, morality, and modern day woes,

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and offered responses based on scripture. So this is how

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we get to hermeneutics. So they took this avatar of

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Jesus basically put it on the other side of a confessional.

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People would go into the confessional booth. This wasn't to

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confess sins. This wasn't about getting absolution. It wasn't to

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replace the sacrament of penance and confession within Catholicism. It

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was to be an experiment. Hey, you can go into

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this place, your private there's the avatar Jesus on the

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other side of the screen, and then you can ask

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questions to talk and that avatar Jesus is going to

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answer your questions based on Scripture. The idea, said the

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Chapel stio Logical Assistant, was to recognize the growing importance

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of artificial intelligence and human lives, even when it comes

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to religion, and explore the limits of human trust and

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a machine. So they wanted to see, well, how much

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will people trust a machine? How much will they demonstrate

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a lack of trust? Now, get you already heard my perspective.

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When it comes to Bible interpretation. I don't trust people.

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I don't trust men. I don't you can't even trust

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what's being said in sermons because how many times I've

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had demonstrated things are just absolutely fraudulent. So no, I don't.

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I don't trust people. No, don't don't trust their interpretations.

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I don't trust when they say this is what it

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means in the Greek, or this is what it means

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in the Hebrew. I don't trust when they say this

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is what a church father said. I don't trust when

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they give me a quote. I don't trust when they

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say this is this is what the Book of Mormon teaches,

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and I can look in the Book of Mormon find

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out it's not true. I mean, I can go on

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and on and on and on. I don't trust people.

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I don't trust them to interpret the Bible. And you

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know what, that makes perfect sense from a theological perspective, right,

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because what do we know about human beings that we

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are foulable? What do I know that our hearts are

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desperately wicked and deceitful above all things? And I believe

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that wicked, deceitful heart remains inside of us even after salvation.

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I know Christians love to pretend that's not the case,

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but I think reality proves that I'm right. So then

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why would we? But now, human beings is what God

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gave us I completely. Now you could make an argument,

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well God gave the church men. I understand that, but

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I also know after two thousand years of those men

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it's been an abysmal failure from any meaningful way of

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measuring it. So then I would say, well, what can

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AI do? Well? I have more faith based off well

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Ai than I do people. And remember I wanted to

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test what the limits of trust in the machine. So

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again I would ask you go back to that imaginary scene.

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You're sitting in church. There's a pulpit, and there's a

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podium behind the pulpit, there's a man. On the podium

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is a tablet iPad whatever has Ai on it? Who

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do you trust to give you a more accurate interpretation

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of that day's text chosen? Now the man may have

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chosen the text for the scripture, But which one would

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you trust more to handle the scriptures in an appropriate

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and biblical way. I'm trusting Ai. I would tell you

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to trust Ai. Then don't trust me, trust Ai over

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me all right. So after a two month run of

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this exhibit and Peter's chapel, it started in late August,

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some nine hundred conversations from visitors, some came more than once.

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They were all and they were just transcribed anonymously. So

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all of these conversations were transcribed. Over nine hundred people came,

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some people came more than once. Those behind the project

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said it was largely a success. Visitors often came out

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moved or deep in thought and found it easy to use.

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So for the most part, people came out and were

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they were impacted. They were they there was something about

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this experience, experiment and this experience. A small sign invited

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visitors to end a confessional chosen for its intimacy, and

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below a screen across with which penitent believers would usually

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speak with a priest. A green light signaled the visitor's

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turn to speak, and a red one came on when

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AI Jesus on a computer screen on the other side

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was responding. So they're in there. If you've ever been

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into a confessional booth, you've got the little screen there

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right on the one side typically is the priest. Then

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you're on the other side and you speak well on

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this particular case. On the other side was this like

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screen of this AI Jesus, and then there was a light.

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going to respond. Now, often a lag time was needed

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to wait for the response, a testament to the technical complexities.

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After exiting, nearly three hundred visitors filed out questionnaires filled

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out questionnaires that informed the report released on Wednesday. Now,

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I will say this because everyone knows I use AI constantly.

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In fact, the AI program they utilize for this I use.

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So I'm very familiar with the AI program that utilize.

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I am not a fan of the voice. Now, I

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think it's it's phenomenal what the voice function of the

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AI program they utilize can do. I think it's very

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amazing how well it can carry on a conversation. However

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it has it's not very good when you're trying to

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say a lot of things. It's very good if you

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just have a very simple and succinct question right, it

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will it will can respond. But if your question becomes

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long or lengthy, it's going to have a hard time

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commute it to computing it and rening if you do

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it in text, then you can you're you can write

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out something that's you know, a page long, and it's

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it's great at doing so. If it's voice and you're

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sitting there trying to talk talk talk talk, sometimes it

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won't either interrupt you or just say I cannot I

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don't know what you're talking about. Like it has a

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hard time doing that. Yeah, it just doesn't work very well.

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So this was already a little bit. I mean, it's

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showing AI is getting better at that, but it still

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struggles again with with the voice to voice communication. But

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in text, I can ask it the most complex I

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can write out. I mean, I mean we saw on

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Sunday the whole thing I did on Sunday was I

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wrote out a completely unique and different interpretation of James

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one nineteen through twenty seven. I handed it to AI.

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AI analyzed it, it interpreted it, it critiqued it. It

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then took my interpretation and see how that would work

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with the rest of the book, with the rest of

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the chapter. I mean, it absolutely did wonderful work, right,

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I did the initial interpretation and then IT took it

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apart and broke it all down. So but if I

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was to try to speak my interpretation. It would have

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interrupted me halfway through. It would have not been able

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to communicate. It would have it would have just broken

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the system. So just note that what they're this experiment

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was going to have limitations. And they found sometimes that

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there was long lag times. Yeah, very long lag times

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as it's trying to process everything you were saying. All right.

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So so three hundred visitors filled out a questionnaire and this,

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and then they talked to some different people who pulled

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together the technical side of the project, and they said

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AI AI responsible for taking the role of AI Jesus

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and generating responses was GPT four O by open AI.

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GPT four Oh, and I have GPT four right here

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on this device that I'm holding in my hand right

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and it's an open source version of the company's whisper

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was used for speech comprehension, all right. So then they

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had an AI video generator and they did all of

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these things. Now, visitors broached many topics, including true love,

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the afterlife, feelings of solitude, war suffering in the world,

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the existence of God, plus issues like sexual abuse cases

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in the Catholic Church or its position on homosexuality. Most

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visitors describe themselves as Christians, though agnostic atheists, Muslims, Buddhists

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and others took part to a took part two. According

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to a recap of the project released by the Catholic

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parish there in the local area. All right, so they

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go on and talk about it, it says. What was

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really interesting was to see that the people really talked

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with him in a serious way. They didn't come to

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make jokes, said Chapel, theel login who spearheaded the project.

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Most visitors were age forty to seventy, which is interesting.

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It was an older audience. I thought maybe a younger audience.

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I figured maybe an older audience would be more hesitant,

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but it was an older audience. Basically, more Catholics respond

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our respondents found the experience stimulating than did Protestants. So

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more Catholics thought, well, this is awesome or this is stimulating.

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Protestants were not quite as positive. Now I could speculate

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to the reason why because Protestants, I mean, I know

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this is maybe a little being a little sarcastic and

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a little jaded and a little cynical, but when it

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comes to non Catholics, we don't want anyone telling us

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the interpretation because we are the pope, we are the magisterium,

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we are the interpreter, we are the authority. We get

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to side. I don't want you telling me what it means.

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I know what it means, or we're gonna our non

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Catholics are going to probably think it's, you know, of

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the devil. So that that I think that there's probably

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reasons for that. Protestants liked the idea that it's them

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and the Bible and they get to interpret it. But

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you know what, we can go on from there all

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So see what else did they hear? They point out

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here they point out that AI Jesus, billed as Jesus

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Like Persona, was an artistic experiment to get people thinking

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about the intersection between the digital and the divine. It

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was not a substitute for human interaction or sacramental confession

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with the priest, nor was it intended to save pastoral

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resources for the people. It was clear that it was

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a computer. It was clear it was not a confession,

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and he said it was not programmed to give absolutions

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or prayers at the end. It was a It was

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more summary of the conversation, right, They talk about all

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of the different experiments, all the different things going on here,

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it says if you read comments on the internet, always

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says they were sensitive to public reaction, and has noted

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chatter on social media saying that the project is blasphemous

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or the work of the devil. Oh no, it's a

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work of the devil. I told you there would be

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people who would do that, because because that's the way

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people I knew people were going to respond. Now, just

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and some of you may already be thinking this, I

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don't understand what people's issue is. I really don't. I don't.

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Oh I can't. I can't go to AI with illogical issues.

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That's of the devil. So wait a minute. So for

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all of these years, you had no problems going to commentaries,

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You had no problems going to Christian radio, you had

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no problem going to Christian books, you had no problem

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watching YouTube videos. But those were produced by people I know,

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and those people offered contradictory interpretations to that person and

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that person, and they've had two thousand years and it's

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all been an abysmal failure. So if you can trust

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people and their books and their broadcasts, then oh, but

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we can't trust AI to do it. Why not? It's

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just another resource, right, I mean you've been using resources.

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You've been using Bible dictionaries, Bible handbooks, You've been using

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all kind commentaries, study bibles. Oh you got no problem

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using a study but oh I got the MacArthur's study Bible.

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Look at me. Yeah, so you can read some man's

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notes who disagrees with the other study Bible? Who has

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someone else's notes in it? Do you not see the absurdity?

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And all? You can trust all of that, use all

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of that? But oh no, no, no, no, no, no. AI

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is a bridge too far? What kind of nouns? That

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drives me crazy? That drives me crazy? Maybe it's a

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generational thing. I just don't get it all right, it says.

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If you read comments on the internet about it, some

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were very negative, which is scary, it says, uh and

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a demonstration of the technology. In the chapel, they asked

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Jesus about the a Eye, Jesus about its message for

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a trouble world, and about whether AI could be helpful

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as a way for people to find God. AI responded,

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All knowledge and wisdom ultimately comes from God, the chat

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pot said in a soothing voice. After a pause, to respond,

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and the image briefly crackled. If used wisely, AI can

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indeed be a tool to explore the wonders of creation,

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deeper deep in our understanding of scripture, and foster connections

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among people. Yet it remains essential to seek God with

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all your heart, and so beyond technology, it added, Right,

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So they go on the article. The article has lots

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to say about it. I mean, there's a lot there

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in the article. I'm not going to read all of it.

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But then I was like, well, let's start thinking about this, right,

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let's start thinking about this. So for me, I kind

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of I started trying to break down this project, what

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it possible we teach, what could we learn from it?

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And I started thinking about things about the nature of

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divine interaction. I started thinking about things the role of confession,

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authority and and interpretation. For example, AI systems generate responses

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based on program data and algorithms, lacking the discernment and

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spiritual authority vested in religious leaders. But I'm like, well,

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wait a minute, Yes, AI does generate responses based on

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program data and algorithms, but it lacks discernment and spiritual

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authority vested in religious leaders. And I was like, I've

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listened to too many sermons, I've heard their so called

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discernment and the authority of religious leaders within the Catholic system, Yes,

461
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their religious leaders are supposedly authoritative. They're a part of

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the church that has a magistraal authority, has a pope,

463
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and they believe they have the authority to interpret scripture.

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But within a non Protestant system, we can pretend all

465
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day religious leaders have authority, but you are the one

466
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who's supposed to be judging what they are preached is

467
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true or false. You can then decide that they're wrong,

468
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and then you can just walk out and go to

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another church or start another church. Said to religious leaders,

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the only authority a religious leader has in the Protestant

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church is the authority given to the people until they

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no longer want them to have it, and then they

473
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can remove their authority within minutes seconds, or they can

474
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split the entire denomination and start another one. Because everyone

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in the Protestant world, they're supposed to interpret the Bible,

476
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and they're supposed to be judged what's being preached. According

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to the Protestant theological system, the people in the pew

478
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are supposed to have not only equal are greater discernment

479
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than the pastor you say, well, no, that's not what

480
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Protestants teach and practice. It does because the people in

481
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the pew are supposed to be the one critiquing and

482
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:04.039
judging with what is preached, whether it's true or false. Well,

483
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:06.200
to be able to judge what is preached is true

484
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or false, you need equal or greater discernment than the

485
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one preaching, and you need to have equal or greater

486
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knowledge than the one that is preaching, Or how are

487
00:31:13.680 --> 00:31:15.680
you going to determine whether what's being preached is true

488
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or false? Relying on AI for spiritual guidance may lead

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to interpretations of scripture that are devoid of pastoral sensitivity

490
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and doctrinal accuracy, as AI cannot fully grasp the nuances

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of human experience and divine mystery. But I think human

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beings have demonstrated a lack of ability to offer an

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authentic interpretation. So I know those are criticisms of AI,

494
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and I'm very I'm going to push back on some

495
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of that. So then I was like, well, let me

496
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do this all right, So there's kind of the experiment.

497
00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:04.440
To me. The experiment comes down to what do you

498
00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:11.720
trust more a person or AI, what do you trust more? Right? So,

499
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you've already heard my thesis now stated many times. So

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I wanted to take my thesis to AI. So I

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00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:24.680
basically said, well, considering that there has been two thousand

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years of church history to look at, we have that right.

503
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We have two thousands of two thousand years of history

504
00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:34.319
to look at. We have two thousand years of history

505
00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:38.279
to study. We have two thousand years of history to read,

506
00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:42.880
to consider, and to meditate on. When you look at

507
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that two thousand years of Church history, it is a fact.

508
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This is not debated. This is not disputed. Nobody can

509
00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:53.079
argue with me. It is a fact that humans have

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not come to any consensus on Bible interpretation or even

511
00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:01.079
on hermeneutical rules and principles. I don't even agree on

512
00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:06.039
hermeneutical rules or principles. We'll be like, no, that that

513
00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:10.079
passage is to be interpreted spiritually. It's not it's not literally. No,

514
00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:13.279
what's an allegory? No, it's this, No, it's this, it's no,

515
00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:16.720
this is And you're like, what is happening? I mean,

516
00:33:16.799 --> 00:33:18.960
how many sermon reviews do I need to prove this?

517
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Human attempts at Bible interpretation. Theological studies have only led

518
00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:32.279
to division, countless numbers of denominations and groups, and more

519
00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:40.839
interpretations than one can possibly count. Is it possible that

520
00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:44.640
AI could do a much better job and biblical interpretation

521
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:50.000
and philological studies. That was my question, That was my

522
00:33:50.400 --> 00:33:53.640
hypothesis that I put forth to Ai. I wanted to

523
00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:55.519
see if AI would be like, well, come on, of

524
00:33:55.599 --> 00:33:58.680
course I can do better than you guys. You guys

525
00:33:58.680 --> 00:34:01.279
are trash. I can do much better. I wanted to

526
00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:09.960
see how AI would handle this. So AI responded, your

527
00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:16.199
observation about the lack of consensus and biblical interpretation and

528
00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:22.920
the proliferation of denominations is both accurate and significant. So

529
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AI had to acknowledge, You're right, you guys have had

530
00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:28.480
two thousand years and you can't y'all just can't agree

531
00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:31.199
on it. There's no consensus, and it's one interpretation after

532
00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:36.199
another interpretation after another interpretation. You know, Ai. I was

533
00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:38.519
waiting for Ai AI to say, what you should probably

534
00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:40.360
do is disclose your Bible, give up, and go to

535
00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:42.559
the liquor store. That's what I was hoping AI would

536
00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:45.079
tell me. Then I would feel justified. No, I don't

537
00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:48.079
go to the liquor store. That's me using hyperbole to

538
00:34:48.159 --> 00:34:51.239
make a point. Okay, all right, someone will misinterpret that.

539
00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:56.199
Ai goes on to say, over two thousand years, human

540
00:34:56.280 --> 00:34:58.639
efforts to interpret the Bible have indeed led to a

541
00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:05.079
vast array of phil logical perspectives, hermeneutical methods, and denominational divides.

542
00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:12.079
This diversity arises from many factors, including cultural, linguistic, philosophical,

543
00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:20.320
and personal influences on interpretation. Now, whether AI could offer

544
00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:24.519
a better approach to Biblical interpretation and theological study is

545
00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:28.280
both intriguing and complex. And I was like, come on, Ai,

546
00:35:28.679 --> 00:35:31.440
you can be You can be more forceful than for that.

547
00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:33.760
You don't need to be so politically correct. Come on,

548
00:35:33.880 --> 00:35:36.960
tell me what you really think. Just tell me. Hey, guys,

549
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:39.800
sit down, let me take care of this. You don't

550
00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:41.679
know what you're doing. I really wanted AI to be

551
00:35:41.760 --> 00:35:43.960
much more forceful, but AI was trying to be all

552
00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:47.280
gentle and nice, and I'm like, come on, AI, come on,

553
00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:49.679
really tell me what you feel. You know, we have

554
00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:55.599
no clue what we're doing. So AI decided to break

555
00:35:55.599 --> 00:36:01.599
this down. It gave me potential strengths of AI and

556
00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:05.079
biblical interpretation. So AI is like, okay, here's what I

557
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:09.599
can do very well, here's what I can do. Right,

558
00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:16.159
So number one, AI can offer a systematic data analysis.

559
00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:26.440
AI can offer systematic data analysis. AI can process vast

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00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:34.440
amounts of Biblical text, historical commentary, philological works, and linguistic data,

561
00:36:34.599 --> 00:36:38.440
far faster and more thoroughly than any human. Now just

562
00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:41.320
think about right there, AI can then can It can

563
00:36:41.360 --> 00:36:44.119
process vast amounts of the Biblical text. It can process

564
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the entire Biblical text within seconds. It can look at

565
00:36:49.639 --> 00:36:55.000
all the historical commentary within seconds. I couldn't even be

566
00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:57.280
able to do what IT does. It would take me.

567
00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:00.840
I couldn't do it within a lifetime. There's no way

568
00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:04.440
I can consider all historical commentaries. I would have a

569
00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:06.840
heart in any given time, Like, oh, I'm gonna go

570
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:09.360
through the entire Bible. So whatever I'm gonna look at,

571
00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:12.559
I'm gonna go, now journey through the entire Bible every

572
00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:15.559
single time. No, I'm gonna do basic cross referencing. I'm

573
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gonna look and what am I gonna rely on? I'm

574
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gonna rely on. Remember back in the day, the strongs concordance. Well,

575
00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:24.079
now we use apps right, so that we can do

576
00:37:24.119 --> 00:37:26.679
cross referencing. I'm still, in a sense using a computer

577
00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:29.639
to try to help me process it, because my ability

578
00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:31.039
would be like, well, I got to look through this,

579
00:37:31.159 --> 00:37:33.519
I gotta try to skim the page. I gotta skim

580
00:37:33.559 --> 00:37:37.519
the page. There's too many pages, there's too many verses.

581
00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:41.800
But not when it comes to AI. It can process

582
00:37:41.920 --> 00:37:46.599
the entire biblical text, historical commentary, all philological works, and

583
00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:50.920
linguistic data far faster than it's. What it can do

584
00:37:51.199 --> 00:38:01.880
is beyond human capability. It can identify patterns and textual

585
00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:06.480
connections that might escape human notice. It can see patterns,

586
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:09.559
it can see themes. It can see textual connections that

587
00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:13.320
we would just maybe even overlook, or maybe we don't

588
00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:15.679
even want to see because it could go against our

589
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:26.320
thiological presupposition. So it can do systematic data analysis within seconds. Now,

590
00:38:26.320 --> 00:38:28.400
who are you gonna trust the person who can't do

591
00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:35.800
this or the AI that can. Oh, here's another one.

592
00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:38.400
Here's what AI can be doing. Here's a strength of AI.

593
00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:45.239
It has neutrality and data processing. Oh, this is good.

594
00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:56.840
Unlike human beings, AI lacks biases, emotions, or denominational loyalties,

595
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:04.039
depending on how AI is structured or how AI is programmed. Well,

596
00:39:04.039 --> 00:39:05.800
it's not going to have that bias. It's not going

597
00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:10.480
to be like, oh, I'm pro Presbyterian, I'm pro Baptist,

598
00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:13.760
I'm pro Reformed, I'm pro non reformed. It's not going

599
00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:16.920
to have that. It doesn't have any emotional connection. It

600
00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:19.719
doesn't like, well, I've got an emotional connection here because

601
00:39:19.880 --> 00:39:21.880
I've done this, or I've done this, or I'm guilty

602
00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:24.159
of this, or I want this to be okay because

603
00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:27.000
I wanted to know. It doesn't have any of those biases,

604
00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:31.679
none of those emotions. It has no loyalty to any

605
00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:36.840
philological team. Well, loyalty to theological team almost constantly leads

606
00:39:36.880 --> 00:39:39.679
you to only interpret the scripture in line with your

607
00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:43.760
theological team. You can't interpret it opposite to your theological team,

608
00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:47.000
or you'll be ostracized, fired and kicked out of out

609
00:39:47.000 --> 00:39:52.519
of your theological team. There ast why churches. You can't

610
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:55.320
do theology. You can only teach the theology that everyone

611
00:39:55.360 --> 00:39:57.679
always agrees upon, because if you actually try to do

612
00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:01.079
theology and you challenge the theology one supposedly agrees on,

613
00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:03.920
everyone gets mad at you, gets defensive, and they'll leave

614
00:40:03.960 --> 00:40:18.599
your church. AI at least possibly, at least potential potentially

615
00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:27.000
could offer interpretations free from subjective influences that often divide theologians.

616
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:29.159
It can get away from being subjective, it can get

617
00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:32.920
away from these biases. Now it's potentially it could potentially

618
00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:37.719
do that. It's possible that it could do that. So

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AI strength is systematic data analysis. AI's strength is neutrality

620
00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:47.639
and data processing. AI strength is inclusivity of perspectives. AI

621
00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:52.199
could integrate and compare interpretations from wide range of theological traditions,

622
00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:56.760
time periods, and cultures, offering a more holistic perspective. AI

623
00:40:56.840 --> 00:40:59.559
can immediately say, Hey, this is how this group interprets it.

624
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This is how this group interprets it, this is how

625
00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:05.199
this group. You've seen me use AI in many cases

626
00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:07.239
when I take us on a journey through church history.

627
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Here's how the early church. It'll break it down into

628
00:41:10.599 --> 00:41:15.400
time periods second to fourth century, this period, Middle Ages,

629
00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:21.079
post Reformation, and all the way to modern times. There's

630
00:41:21.159 --> 00:41:24.599
no way I could pull that together in any meaningful way.

631
00:41:24.599 --> 00:41:26.840
I would have to rely on some book where someone

632
00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:30.440
and that's what pastors do. See people get met. Oh,

633
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:32.719
I don't want my pastor using AI. You had no

634
00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:36.039
problem your pastor using commentaries. How many times have I

635
00:41:36.039 --> 00:41:39.280
listened to sermons going, man, that's page fifty seven of

636
00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:45.440
MacArthur's commentary. Give me a break. That's Spurgeon, that's Calvin's commentary.

637
00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:50.199
Come on, I know where you took the stuff. Now,

638
00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:52.039
am I saying it's wrong to take the stuff? I'm

639
00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:54.559
just saying. They pick a commentary that agrees with their

640
00:41:54.599 --> 00:41:57.239
theological team, and then they use the commentary to help

641
00:41:57.239 --> 00:42:00.360
structure their sermon, which is in agreement with their theological team.

642
00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:05.639
But guess what, there's a million other interpretations that disagree

643
00:42:05.719 --> 00:42:08.440
with your theological team. Now you can just assume that

644
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:12.480
all of them are wrong. I guess AI will be like, well,

645
00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:15.039
wait a minute, here's this, this and this, and it

646
00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:22.679
can give you all of them. Another thing AI is

647
00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:27.800
a strength of AI. It's linguistic expertise. AI can master

648
00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:33.199
ancient languages Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek and evaluate the text

649
00:42:33.320 --> 00:42:38.960
in their original context with precision, offing offering insights that

650
00:42:39.079 --> 00:42:43.280
might otherwise require years of specialized study. It can master

651
00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:46.039
the languages. Now, how many times have I heard pastors

652
00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:47.760
say this is what it means in the Greek? This

653
00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:49.320
is what it means in the Hebrew and you go

654
00:42:49.320 --> 00:42:51.119
look it up and you're like, what are you even

655
00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:58.280
talking about? That's a complete lie. AI masters the language,

656
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:08.400
person who am I gonna trust? And just think most pastors,

657
00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:13.320
most pastors at best, maybe they got a year of Greek,

658
00:43:13.519 --> 00:43:16.519
maybe a year of Hebrew, maybe if they decided to

659
00:43:16.599 --> 00:43:20.440
go into specialized training in the original languages, But those

660
00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:23.199
are gonna be rare because they're gonna be pastors right now.

661
00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:26.159
If they're gonna be seminary professor teaching Greek or Hebrew,

662
00:43:26.320 --> 00:43:28.599
then great, they're gonna have to have the specialized training,

663
00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:31.000
but then they're only gonna be teaching men who are

664
00:43:31.039 --> 00:43:33.920
only gonna probably get a year, maybe two years, and

665
00:43:33.960 --> 00:43:38.679
then they're gonna move on. So the person standing behind

666
00:43:38.719 --> 00:43:41.760
the pulpit is not an expert in Greek or Hebrew.

667
00:43:41.920 --> 00:43:44.639
In many cases, they're understanding of Greek or Hebrew comes

668
00:43:44.639 --> 00:43:47.119
from some commentary that told them what the Greek or

669
00:43:47.119 --> 00:43:58.519
Hebrew means. So who are you going to trust? What

670
00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:01.519
is another? So what are the string of AI? Systematic

671
00:44:01.719 --> 00:44:06.280
data analysis number two, neutrality and data processing number three,

672
00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:12.280
Inclusivity and perspectives number four, Linguistic expertise number five consistency.

673
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:22.719
AI could apply hermeneutical principles consistently across text, potentially avoiding

674
00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:32.280
the selective or inconsistent application often seen in human interpretations.

675
00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:37.280
Humans are not consistent and are hermaeneutical applications. We are not.

676
00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:40.400
We handle this text this way, but then we handle

677
00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:43.320
another text a different way. We criticize the handling of

678
00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:45.119
the text this way, and we do the same thing

679
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:52.840
in a different text. We are not consistent. So then

680
00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:57.239
I was like, okay, AI, that's your strengths. I agree

681
00:44:57.239 --> 00:44:59.639
with all of those strengths because I've seen those strengths

682
00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:02.960
play uh time and time again and my utilizing of AI.

683
00:45:04.360 --> 00:45:08.239
AI can check things for me instantaneously and and and

684
00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:11.320
and and and and help me verify things and check things.

685
00:45:11.480 --> 00:45:14.800
So I know how the strengths of AI, But what

686
00:45:14.880 --> 00:45:18.639
about its limitations? So I wanted AI to tell me, Okay,

687
00:45:18.679 --> 00:45:20.920
so those are your strengths, what are your limitations? What

688
00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:25.039
would be your challenges? And talking about theology or Bible

689
00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:30.840
interpretation hermeneutics. Now this see, this one drives me crazy.

690
00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:33.639
This one drives me crazy. All right, now, this this

691
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could spark an entire podcast episode AI's guess what it

692
00:45:39.639 --> 00:45:42.000
identifies as its first weakness. What do you think AIS

693
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think thinks it's first weakness. This is AI telling me

694
00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:47.760
what its weakness is when it comes to theology and

695
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:51.400
Bible interpretation. What do you think AI said its first weaknesses.

696
00:45:52.320 --> 00:46:02.360
I was shocked by this one. A lack of spiritual discernment. Now,

697
00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:04.199
immediately I was taken back. I'm going, well, well, wait

698
00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:05.719
a minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute. Now, I

699
00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:10.519
know within the Protestant world there is this mindset that

700
00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:14.280
when you become a Christian God, the Holy Spirit guide

701
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:18.199
you into all truth, gives you understanding, gives you discernment.

702
00:46:18.639 --> 00:46:22.760
I reject that outright. I think it's ridiculous. It's ludicrous

703
00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:25.079
because we've got two thousand years of church history. He goes,

704
00:46:25.159 --> 00:46:27.760
that is not happening. If the Holy Spirit's leading us

705
00:46:27.800 --> 00:46:30.599
into all truth, there would be unity, there would be conformity,

706
00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:33.159
there would be agreement, there would be one interpretation, there

707
00:46:33.159 --> 00:46:35.440
would be one doctrine on baptism, one doctrine on the

708
00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:38.440
Lord's Supper, one doctrine on the Church, one doctrine about salvation.

709
00:46:38.840 --> 00:46:44.960
There wouldn't be millions. So I reject this idea. That

710
00:46:45.079 --> 00:46:49.239
spiritual discernment is some spiritual thing that we're given by God.

711
00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:55.199
Spiritual discernment arises from your understanding of the text. The

712
00:46:55.239 --> 00:46:58.639
text is what gives you spiritual discernment. If you want

713
00:46:58.679 --> 00:47:01.320
spiritual discernment, going to be an expert in the text.

714
00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:07.000
Your expertise in the text determines your spiritual discernment or

715
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:10.679
the level of your spiritual discernment. I reject this nonsense that,

716
00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:13.480
oh God's given me the Oh. I have seen this

717
00:47:13.519 --> 00:47:15.400
so many times in churches where everybody gets caught up

718
00:47:15.440 --> 00:47:19.679
on spiritual gifts. Oh, my goodness, gracious, it basically feels

719
00:47:19.719 --> 00:47:24.400
like Christian astrology. Oh I'm I'm a I'm a pisces,

720
00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:29.320
I'm an aries. These are my personality characteristics. Oh, God,

721
00:47:29.559 --> 00:47:33.239
given I have the gift of discernment. I'll just stop talking.

722
00:47:33.719 --> 00:47:35.559
I've heard Christians say that, and then you ask him

723
00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:39.480
five questions about the text, five questions about theology. WHOA,

724
00:47:39.519 --> 00:47:44.079
your discernment's so good because you just completely, absolutely got

725
00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:47.400
that all wrong. But yeah, you've got the gift of discernment.

726
00:47:47.559 --> 00:47:50.159
You don't even discern how messed up you just handled

727
00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:54.119
that text of scripture. Hey, does God say he has

728
00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:56.559
a plan for me? Does he has a plan to

729
00:47:56.639 --> 00:48:00.320
prost me? Yes? Yes, I discern that God does have

730
00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:02.119
a plan. What are you talking about? That passage in

731
00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:04.559
geremis for people in Babylonian captivity. It's not for me.

732
00:48:04.719 --> 00:48:06.960
So you don't have any level of discernment. Stop talking.

733
00:48:08.679 --> 00:48:12.559
It drives me crazy. So how did Ai? How does

734
00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:19.679
AI understand discernment? Here we go, AI says Biblical interpretation

735
00:48:20.440 --> 00:48:25.159
involves more than intellectual analysis. See I disagree here. Now

736
00:48:25.199 --> 00:48:26.760
this is where I'm going to disagree with AI. And

737
00:48:26.760 --> 00:48:28.960
now the reason I'm going to disagree with AI. He said, Well,

738
00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:31.559
I thought you trust AI. I do trust AI. But

739
00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:35.159
here the problem is AI is pulling from what it's

740
00:48:35.199 --> 00:48:40.519
pulling from the body of Christian thinking, the body of

741
00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:44.039
Christian teaching. And I disagree with this. But it says

742
00:48:44.159 --> 00:48:48.199
biblical interpretation involves more than intellectual analysis. I disagree. I

743
00:48:48.239 --> 00:48:53.239
think biblical interpretation is nothing more than intellectual analysis. It

744
00:48:53.320 --> 00:48:58.719
is deeply tied to faith, the guidance of the Holy Spirit. No,

745
00:48:59.320 --> 00:49:03.760
I disagree, And a communal discernment, AI, as a non

746
00:49:03.800 --> 00:49:07.639
spiritual entity cannot engage with scripture on this level. That's

747
00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:10.519
what makes AI better because you can't engage on it

748
00:49:10.559 --> 00:49:12.559
on that level. Therefore you can stop all of the

749
00:49:12.559 --> 00:49:16.719
foolishness that Christians do. So it's so at a point here,

750
00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:19.639
I'm gonna challenge AI on this. Just remember this. I'm

751
00:49:19.679 --> 00:49:22.719
not gonna forget this. So AI starts with, I have

752
00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:26.079
a lack of spiritual discernment because basically, according to Christian teaching,

753
00:49:26.679 --> 00:49:30.599
you guys do this through faith and the Holy Spirit.

754
00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:33.639
That's how you Christians do it well. And I'm like, no,

755
00:49:33.760 --> 00:49:42.159
that's that's how Christians make up how they do it. Okay,

756
00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:45.440
So there's there's weakness number one. So I reject its

757
00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:47.280
idea that it's weak in that area, and I'm gonna

758
00:49:47.360 --> 00:49:52.400
challenge it here in a minute number two, AI says

759
00:49:52.440 --> 00:49:56.280
that it is weak because it is inherent dependent on

760
00:49:56.400 --> 00:50:01.920
human input So the weakness that AI as human beings.

761
00:50:01.639 --> 00:50:07.159
That's somewhat hilarious, right. It says AI operates based on

762
00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:10.519
the data and algorithms that is given. If those inputs

763
00:50:10.559 --> 00:50:16.239
reflect particular theological biases or hermeneutical frameworks, the AI's outputs

764
00:50:16.360 --> 00:50:19.840
will be limited or skewed. And I completely agree with that. Look,

765
00:50:19.880 --> 00:50:23.400
I don't like like if there's a Christian company that says, hey,

766
00:50:23.800 --> 00:50:26.079
we're use our AI. I don't want to use the

767
00:50:26.159 --> 00:50:29.320
Christian AI because most likely their algorithm has been inputed

768
00:50:29.320 --> 00:50:32.000
with their theological bias. That's why I want to use

769
00:50:32.039 --> 00:50:35.320
something more like an open AI system that's pulling from everything.

770
00:50:35.440 --> 00:50:37.719
I want you to pull from everything. Do not give

771
00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:41.800
me a thiological bias. Now I can get AI even

772
00:50:41.840 --> 00:50:45.480
though the platform that I'm utilizing, I can get it

773
00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:48.320
to give me that theological bias. I can say, well,

774
00:50:48.360 --> 00:50:51.360
only give me an interpretation that is consistent with a

775
00:50:51.440 --> 00:50:55.199
reformed Baptist. But I don't want it to do that.

776
00:50:55.960 --> 00:51:00.639
I don't want confirmation bias. I want to give me

777
00:51:00.679 --> 00:51:06.159
things based off the text, not a philological system. But

778
00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:09.320
it is dependent on humans to some level, all right,

779
00:51:09.360 --> 00:51:14.519
So I think that's important to see. A third weakness

780
00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:20.760
AI pointed out about itself is theological complexity. Biblical texts

781
00:51:20.760 --> 00:51:24.679
often deal with profound mysteries of God's salvation and human existence.

782
00:51:25.159 --> 00:51:30.320
These transcend what AI, rooted in logic and computation, can

783
00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:34.360
fully grasp. So AI realizes it can't truly grasp some

784
00:51:34.519 --> 00:51:37.519
of these things. It can only understand it or try

785
00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:44.159
to describe it from a perspective of logic. I do

786
00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:48.320
agree it can't comprehend it. But how do we comprehend it?

787
00:51:48.639 --> 00:51:52.280
Don't we have to comprehend? Just remember, I know Christians

788
00:51:52.320 --> 00:51:57.079
love the spiritual, feeling, emotional kind of thing. But my

789
00:51:57.239 --> 00:52:01.639
understanding of anything about god salvation is based off God's

790
00:52:01.679 --> 00:52:04.719
given me his revelation in written form. Well, what's required

791
00:52:05.880 --> 00:52:09.719
to understand that? Is it some feeling? Is it? Oh?

792
00:52:09.760 --> 00:52:14.440
I've got to comprehend the transcendence of God. No, I'm

793
00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:26.239
supposed to understand language, words, syntex language, grammar, geography, history,

794
00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:32.000
literary genre. I've got to use logic and reading comprehension

795
00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:34.679
and be able to do it. I think the point

796
00:52:34.719 --> 00:52:36.840
is when we make it all mystical, we end up

797
00:52:36.840 --> 00:52:39.800
with craziness, which two thousand years of church history would

798
00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:43.679
prove that I'm right. So I think the fact that

799
00:52:43.719 --> 00:52:47.000
AI is only rooted in logic and computation is what

800
00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:49.880
is actually a strength. AI perceives it as a weakness.

801
00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:57.320
I see it as a strength another possible weakness that

802
00:52:57.360 --> 00:52:59.880
AI points out. And just note I'm using chat G

803
00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:03.239
four to zero, which is the exact system that was

804
00:53:03.360 --> 00:53:06.559
utilized in the experiment that we read about, the art

805
00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:09.800
exhibit that we read about. All right, so number four

806
00:53:09.920 --> 00:53:15.920
AI identifies risk of reductionism. By focusing on systematic and

807
00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:20.480
objective analysis, AI might reduce the Bible to a purely

808
00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:26.480
academic or literary document, stripping away its spiritual and transformative dimensions.

809
00:53:26.599 --> 00:53:28.159
We'll see this is I know why I get in

810
00:53:28.159 --> 00:53:30.639
trouble with this, and Christians always get mad. You make

811
00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:33.519
it too academic, You make it too academic, because the

812
00:53:33.559 --> 00:53:36.639
only way to interpret the Bible is to make it academic.

813
00:53:36.840 --> 00:53:41.760
It's a book. It's the books within it. The different

814
00:53:41.800 --> 00:53:45.960
books within it are come from different literary genres, so

815
00:53:46.119 --> 00:53:48.639
they have to be interpreted in different ways. We have

816
00:53:48.719 --> 00:53:52.760
to use an academic approach. It's based off reading, comprehension,

817
00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:56.320
it's based off what words mean, it's based off context,

818
00:53:56.480 --> 00:53:59.159
it's based off history, it's based off all of that stuff.

819
00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:01.679
I know Christians never wanted to be reduced to academic.

820
00:54:01.679 --> 00:54:03.440
I don't want it to be academic. I want to

821
00:54:03.519 --> 00:54:06.719
feel something. I want to feel the spirit. And yeah,

822
00:54:06.719 --> 00:54:08.639
and so therefore you don't want to understand the scriptures.

823
00:54:08.679 --> 00:54:11.079
That's fine. You can have all of this zeal and

824
00:54:11.159 --> 00:54:13.480
all of the warm feelings, and you can and you

825
00:54:13.519 --> 00:54:16.440
can be all super spiritual sounding, but you're just gonna

826
00:54:16.440 --> 00:54:18.440
be clueless when it comes to the text because the

827
00:54:18.480 --> 00:54:20.800
text needs you to put all of that stuff aside

828
00:54:20.960 --> 00:54:26.800
and look at the text. Now, if there's no objective truth,

829
00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:29.760
then let's have all the subjective feelings and we can

830
00:54:29.840 --> 00:54:33.639
hold hands seeing kumbaiya and go oh, I feel the spirit,

831
00:54:33.880 --> 00:54:38.079
go for it. Just don't tell me you know the text,

832
00:54:39.639 --> 00:54:46.440
because that is incompatible with actually understanding something. As Christians

833
00:54:46.480 --> 00:54:48.639
go back and forth, like one minute like we're gonna

834
00:54:48.639 --> 00:54:51.480
study the text, we're gonna do exe Jesus, we're gonna winter,

835
00:54:51.599 --> 00:54:54.159
we're gonna go versify, they talk a big game, and

836
00:54:54.159 --> 00:54:56.400
then the next thing, you know, well, let's not make

837
00:54:56.440 --> 00:55:06.920
it too academic, and that which is it another weakness

838
00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:10.320
of AI. These are weaknesses of AI pointed out by

839
00:55:10.400 --> 00:55:14.519
AI itself. AI says that it has the potential for misuse.

840
00:55:15.679 --> 00:55:19.480
AI could be used to legitimize particular interpretations, giving them

841
00:55:19.480 --> 00:55:23.320
a false sense of objectivity or authority, especially if theological

842
00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:27.519
oversight is lacking. So IT says it could be misused.

843
00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:31.480
Someone could say, hey, it's authoritative because AI said it. Well,

844
00:55:32.199 --> 00:55:35.400
I could see that. But guess what the same thing

845
00:55:35.440 --> 00:55:41.480
applies to people. People will quote MacArthur, will quote R. C. Sproull, Will,

846
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:45.639
they quote their favorite spiritual leaders as being authoritative. So

847
00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:49.920
the church father said, the church father said this about

848
00:55:49.960 --> 00:55:54.199
infant baptism. You have to believe it. No, I don't. So,

849
00:55:54.280 --> 00:55:56.559
I mean the Church has been doing that with human

850
00:55:56.599 --> 00:56:02.800
beings forever. So again, if it comes down to me,

851
00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:06.760
I'm going to trust AI before I trust your human

852
00:56:06.800 --> 00:56:12.840
authority that you're going to quote at me. So then

853
00:56:12.880 --> 00:56:16.320
I asked Ai, so what are the philological implications about this?

854
00:56:16.480 --> 00:56:21.039
And AI said, The diversity a Biblical interpretation reflects not

855
00:56:21.119 --> 00:56:25.079
just human fallibility, but also the richness of scripture itself.

856
00:56:25.639 --> 00:56:29.880
The Bible is a dynamic text intended to engage with

857
00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:34.480
diverse cultures, language, and context throughout history. While this diversity

858
00:56:34.519 --> 00:56:38.039
can lead to division, as it also testifies to the

859
00:56:38.079 --> 00:56:44.079
Bible's relevance and adapt and adapt its ability to adapt. Okay,

860
00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:47.920
if I can speak correctly, AI might excel in some

861
00:56:48.079 --> 00:56:52.599
technical aspects of interpretation, but theology and hermeneutics are purely

862
00:56:52.800 --> 00:56:56.519
are not purely intellectual exercises. There are acts of worship

863
00:56:56.559 --> 00:57:00.480
grounded in the community of faith. So AI was like, well,

864
00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:04.199
my issue is when AI tries to acknowledge its weakness.

865
00:57:04.239 --> 00:57:07.679
It's basically like, I can give you the intellectual, I

866
00:57:07.719 --> 00:57:10.760
can give you the textual, I can give you the academic,

867
00:57:11.440 --> 00:57:14.679
but I can't give you worship or all of these

868
00:57:14.679 --> 00:57:17.920
other things. And I believe though the worship and all

869
00:57:17.920 --> 00:57:21.360
of these other things arise from our understanding of scripture.

870
00:57:21.519 --> 00:57:26.119
So we got to have the this more logic base

871
00:57:26.320 --> 00:57:29.440
to get us to the other thing. That's my premise.

872
00:57:32.039 --> 00:57:33.840
So then I was like, okay, AI, thank you for

873
00:57:33.920 --> 00:57:36.559
giving me your strengths, thanks for giving me your weakness,

874
00:57:36.760 --> 00:57:39.800
thank you for giving me the philological implications. But you

875
00:57:39.840 --> 00:57:42.519
still have an answer my question. Can you do a

876
00:57:42.519 --> 00:57:49.719
better job? So then AI said, well, if better is

877
00:57:49.800 --> 00:58:00.239
defined narrowly producing consistent, well researched interpretations, AI could outperform humans.

878
00:58:01.039 --> 00:58:07.320
So if you want a consistent, well researched interpretation, AI

879
00:58:07.559 --> 00:58:11.840
acknowledges it does better than human beings. However, if you

880
00:58:11.920 --> 00:58:19.480
want to include spiritual, communal, transformative aspects of interpretation, AI

881
00:58:19.599 --> 00:58:23.400
will fall short. The Bible is not just a text

882
00:58:23.400 --> 00:58:25.840
to be analyzed, but it a means by which God

883
00:58:25.880 --> 00:58:29.559
communicates with his people. Again, I understand that, but God

884
00:58:29.559 --> 00:58:33.679
communicates his people through words. So the only way to

885
00:58:33.760 --> 00:58:37.719
understand those words is to use logic and reading comprehension

886
00:58:37.880 --> 00:58:40.800
and those or you're going to be God is communicating

887
00:58:40.800 --> 00:58:42.679
with me. And then you may get warm fuzzies and

888
00:58:42.679 --> 00:58:44.519
you may have all the feelings, and you may try

889
00:58:44.519 --> 00:58:47.480
to over make it mystical. Well, you're going to miss

890
00:58:47.480 --> 00:58:55.719
the meaning of the text. AI as a tool may

891
00:58:55.760 --> 00:58:59.719
assist and enhance biblical study, but cannot replace the living, relational,

892
00:58:59.760 --> 00:59:05.480
and spirit led engagement that characterizes true theological reflection. Ultimately,

893
00:59:05.480 --> 00:59:08.159
the role of AI and biblical interpretation should be viewed

894
00:59:08.400 --> 00:59:12.360
as supplementary, not primary, an aid for the church rather

895
00:59:12.400 --> 00:59:16.599
than a substitute for human and divine interaction. Okay, so

896
00:59:16.760 --> 00:59:20.880
ass like I can't I can't replace the what Christianity is. Well,

897
00:59:20.960 --> 00:59:23.800
okay again, if I'm sitting in a church and there's

898
00:59:23.800 --> 00:59:26.320
a person behind the pulpit and there's AI, I'm listening

899
00:59:26.320 --> 00:59:28.760
to AI just because I've got all this years of

900
00:59:28.800 --> 00:59:33.199
experience knowing how messed up we all can be. So

901
00:59:33.239 --> 00:59:36.400
then I was like, okay, AI, I hear you, Thank

902
00:59:36.400 --> 00:59:40.400
you very much, But this whole claim of the Holy

903
00:59:40.480 --> 00:59:44.480
Spirit's guidance for us is a claim that can be

904
00:59:44.519 --> 00:59:48.119
proven false. If the Holy Spirit is guiding us and

905
00:59:48.199 --> 00:59:51.480
understanding and interpreting, then there would be unity and not

906
00:59:51.679 --> 00:59:56.679
countless different contradictory interpretations. The Holy Spirit led the apostles

907
00:59:56.719 --> 01:00:01.719
and authors of inspired scripture. So then AI said, well,

908
01:00:01.880 --> 01:00:07.119
your point is compelling. It is a compelling critique of

909
01:00:07.159 --> 01:00:10.440
the claim that the Holy Spirit directly guides every individual

910
01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:15.679
believer into a unified understanding of scripture. The observable reality

911
01:00:16.320 --> 01:00:22.119
of widespread doctrinal division, interpretive disagreement, and denominational fragmentation raises

912
01:00:22.199 --> 01:00:25.360
serious questions about how we understand the Holy Spirit's role

913
01:00:25.400 --> 01:00:31.519
in guiding Christians and interpretation today. So even AI was like, Okay,

914
01:00:32.119 --> 01:00:35.239
I mean, you've got a point. The results, the reality

915
01:00:35.440 --> 01:00:39.400
goes against this claim. So it says the apostle the

916
01:00:39.480 --> 01:00:42.880
apostolic model of spirit guidance. The Holy Spirit did indeed

917
01:00:43.599 --> 01:00:48.000
uniquely inspire the apostles the authors of scripture. This inspiration

918
01:00:48.159 --> 01:00:51.760
was infallible and authoritative, ensuring that the writings of Scripture

919
01:00:51.760 --> 01:00:55.440
are trustworthy and unified in their message. This guidance was

920
01:00:55.480 --> 01:00:58.639
specific to the writing of canonical scripture and does not

921
01:00:58.760 --> 01:01:02.639
extend to individual interpretation of those writings in the same way,

922
01:01:02.840 --> 01:01:05.559
Thank you very much. So AI finally has to admit,

923
01:01:06.079 --> 01:01:08.920
you know what, Yeah, it applies to the original authors.

924
01:01:09.079 --> 01:01:13.559
It does not apply to my interpretation of those infallible scriptures,

925
01:01:13.719 --> 01:01:16.599
because if it did, then my interpretation would be infallible.

926
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None of us has an infallible interpretation of scripture. Therefore,

927
01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:22.480
our interpretation is not coming from God. What does it

928
01:01:22.519 --> 01:01:28.000
arise from? Let me guess, Oh, yeah, reading, comprehension, logic, analysis,

929
01:01:28.000 --> 01:01:30.440
and all of the very things that who is better

930
01:01:30.480 --> 01:01:37.440
at AI than people. Jesus promised that the Holy Spirit

931
01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:39.840
would guide you into all truth. However, this promise was

932
01:01:39.840 --> 01:01:43.280
given specifically to the apostles and the context of their

933
01:01:43.440 --> 01:01:47.280
role in revealing and recording divine truth. There is no

934
01:01:47.599 --> 01:01:51.800
explicit biblical promise that all believers will perfectly understand scripture

935
01:01:51.840 --> 01:01:54.960
in a unified way. As said, the Bible acknowledges human

936
01:01:55.039 --> 01:01:58.559
limitations and warns against the distortion of scriptures by some.

937
01:01:59.639 --> 01:02:03.199
So hey, I will admit, Hey, the promise was actually

938
01:02:03.239 --> 01:02:05.960
given to the writers of the Bible. It was not

939
01:02:06.039 --> 01:02:13.599
given to us. Human sinfulness, human biases, human, cultural influences,

940
01:02:13.800 --> 01:02:18.880
human intellectual limitations, human inevitably, all of this will inevitably

941
01:02:18.920 --> 01:02:23.159
impact interpretation. So AI is like, okay, human beings, you're sinful,

942
01:02:23.519 --> 01:02:26.559
you have biases, you have cultural influences, and you have

943
01:02:26.639 --> 01:02:31.119
intellectual limitations. Yeah, that's going to impact your interpretation. The

944
01:02:31.199 --> 01:02:34.039
divisions we see are not evidence of the Spirit's failure,

945
01:02:34.239 --> 01:02:38.599
but of humanity's fallen condition. Even sincere Christians are not

946
01:02:38.760 --> 01:02:42.559
immune to error. Paul himself rebuked Peter for conduct and

947
01:02:42.639 --> 01:02:45.639
consistent with the Gospel, showing that even spirit filled leaders

948
01:02:45.800 --> 01:02:54.159
could fall in understanding or application. It goes on to

949
01:02:54.199 --> 01:02:58.079
say even church councils and traditions have not produced perfect unity,

950
01:02:58.280 --> 01:03:05.239
further underscoring the challenges of interpretation. So then I said, okay, well,

951
01:03:05.280 --> 01:03:08.159
then what about the claims today? And AI says the

952
01:03:08.159 --> 01:03:11.719
Holy Spirit does not guide individual interpretation in an infallible way.

953
01:03:11.880 --> 01:03:14.360
Disaligns with the idea that the spirit's primary work is

954
01:03:14.400 --> 01:03:18.880
illuminating scripture, helping believers understand its core truth, the Gospel,

955
01:03:19.000 --> 01:03:22.960
but not guaranteeing perfect agreement on every theological detail. So

956
01:03:23.239 --> 01:03:25.480
AI tries to limit what the Holy Spirit can do.

957
01:03:25.599 --> 01:03:28.320
Now I believe it should limit it even more. I

958
01:03:28.320 --> 01:03:31.039
don't think the Holy Spirit's illuminating anything, because if the

959
01:03:31.039 --> 01:03:34.039
Holy Spirit's illuminating, then you should have the same illumination

960
01:03:34.119 --> 01:03:36.280
as I should have. And if we don't, then your

961
01:03:36.360 --> 01:03:38.320
lack of understandings because the whole spirit doesn't want you

962
01:03:38.360 --> 01:03:52.519
to understand. That just raises more theological problems. So I said, okay,

963
01:03:52.559 --> 01:03:57.599
In what ways could AI outperform human beings? Well? AI

964
01:03:57.719 --> 01:04:01.679
said consistency, okay, which we are talked about all right.

965
01:04:03.039 --> 01:04:06.280
AI can maintain an absolute consistency in applying it to

966
01:04:06.400 --> 01:04:10.719
all Biblical texts. AI hermut AI applies hermeneutical rules and

967
01:04:10.760 --> 01:04:17.159
principles without emotional, cultural, or denominational biases, so AI can

968
01:04:17.199 --> 01:04:21.320
be more consistent. Depth of analysis. AI can process and

969
01:04:21.360 --> 01:04:24.880
analyze vast amounts of data, scripture, commentaries, all of those things.

970
01:04:25.320 --> 01:04:30.599
It can cross reference passages, explore intertextual themes, and identify

971
01:04:30.679 --> 01:04:35.039
patterns across the Bible without fatigue or oversight. AI doesn't

972
01:04:35.039 --> 01:04:37.760
get tired. Well, it's not going to miss anything, and

973
01:04:37.800 --> 01:04:42.239
it can analyze everything. Human beings cannot do that. Linguistic precision,

974
01:04:42.480 --> 01:04:45.519
AI can master all the complexities of language. It can

975
01:04:45.559 --> 01:04:48.760
analyze how words and phrases function in different grammatical, cultural,

976
01:04:48.760 --> 01:04:52.559
and historical contexts. Context it can provide insights and a

977
01:04:52.639 --> 01:04:56.039
word usage across scripture and even compare translation and manuscript

978
01:04:56.119 --> 01:04:59.280
variations systematically. It can even show you all the textual

979
01:04:59.360 --> 01:05:03.320
variants are They can do all of that. There's no

980
01:05:03.360 --> 01:05:07.960
way people can compare. So AI can literally outperform humans

981
01:05:07.960 --> 01:05:13.960
in consistency, depth of analysis, and linguistic precision. AI is

982
01:05:13.960 --> 01:05:17.599
also better than humans and inclusivity, meaning it can synthesize

983
01:05:17.840 --> 01:05:25.719
all different approaches to the text measurable outputs. AI can

984
01:05:25.760 --> 01:05:29.159
generate interpretations that are easier to understand by avoiding overly

985
01:05:29.239 --> 01:05:33.760
complex or obscure reasoning accuracy to the original text. By

986
01:05:33.760 --> 01:05:37.840
focusing on linguistic and historical evidence, AI interpretations can align

987
01:05:37.880 --> 01:05:43.599
more closely with the original intent of the biblical authors.

988
01:05:45.199 --> 01:05:47.079
So AI is like, hey, if you really want to

989
01:05:47.119 --> 01:05:49.880
know the original intent of scripture, AI can do better

990
01:05:49.920 --> 01:06:06.599
than humans, all right, So yeah, and so I have

991
01:06:06.679 --> 01:06:15.639
I have more here, I have more here. Yeah, I

992
01:06:15.639 --> 01:06:18.440
mean I've got, I've got, I've got pages of stuff here,

993
01:06:20.719 --> 01:06:23.559
I got I have to stop. We're at sixty six minutes. Also,

994
01:06:23.599 --> 01:06:27.119
I'll stop. I got pages of stuff. So when you

995
01:06:27.159 --> 01:06:30.679
get down to this discussion, AI finally has to admit, hey,

996
01:06:30.800 --> 01:06:33.199
I mean it already says this is my strengths. But

997
01:06:33.239 --> 01:06:36.000
then it will go if you really press it, it will say, well, yeah,

998
01:06:36.039 --> 01:06:38.599
I can do this better than people. And the things

999
01:06:38.599 --> 01:06:42.679
that AI can do better than people would then prove

1000
01:06:44.400 --> 01:06:53.719
logically that it can interpret the Bible better than people. Now,

1001
01:06:53.960 --> 01:06:59.559
is AI perfect? I'm not saying it's perfect, right, I think.

1002
01:06:59.599 --> 01:07:01.760
I think. I think the better you are at asking

1003
01:07:01.800 --> 01:07:05.119
the questions, the better you are. I think, the more

1004
01:07:05.159 --> 01:07:09.360
theological I do. I will say this, the more philological

1005
01:07:09.480 --> 01:07:18.480
understanding a person has, it's that person's theological knowledge allows

1006
01:07:18.519 --> 01:07:21.719
them to engage AI in probably a way that maybe

1007
01:07:21.760 --> 01:07:24.440
some people would not. Some people may be asking simple

1008
01:07:24.519 --> 01:07:29.320
questions are not even realizing all of the theological complexities here,

1009
01:07:29.400 --> 01:07:31.239
which goes back to the need for people to have

1010
01:07:31.280 --> 01:07:35.360
theological knowledge. Which wait, but then again, people can sit

1011
01:07:35.400 --> 01:07:38.280
in the pew without even going to school reading a

1012
01:07:38.320 --> 01:07:41.400
systematic theology or even having a degree in theology and

1013
01:07:41.440 --> 01:07:43.719
can tell the person who's gone to school with a

1014
01:07:43.880 --> 01:07:47.639
degree multiple degrees in theology that they're wrong. So, I mean,

1015
01:07:48.360 --> 01:07:50.440
does it really? I mean, people already think that they

1016
01:07:50.480 --> 01:07:56.079
know more than anything. So so I still would trust

1017
01:07:56.079 --> 01:07:59.119
a AI. I do believe though you do need theological

1018
01:07:59.159 --> 01:08:01.199
knowledge in many case is to ask questions or to

1019
01:08:01.239 --> 01:08:03.039
go wait a minute, what about this or what about

1020
01:08:03.119 --> 01:08:05.679
because you know those things? So like there's sometimes I

1021
01:08:05.719 --> 01:08:08.519
feel like all of my theological education at least allows

1022
01:08:08.559 --> 01:08:10.360
me to go, wait, well what about this or what

1023
01:08:10.400 --> 01:08:12.039
about this? Or what about this? What about this? And

1024
01:08:12.480 --> 01:08:14.719
in many cases, hey, I will go yes, according to

1025
01:08:14.719 --> 01:08:17.680
that or that or that or that. So but the

1026
01:08:17.760 --> 01:08:20.119
reality is the people sitting in the pew already think

1027
01:08:20.119 --> 01:08:22.319
they know more than and they say no, I don't.

1028
01:08:22.640 --> 01:08:25.199
I'm humble until you hear something you don't like and

1029
01:08:25.239 --> 01:08:27.399
then you disagree, then you get mad, then you complain,

1030
01:08:27.560 --> 01:08:29.000
and then you just walk out of the church and

1031
01:08:29.000 --> 01:08:35.199
go find another church. Just stop it. So again, what

1032
01:08:35.199 --> 01:08:38.520
would you do the person behind the pulpit or the

1033
01:08:38.560 --> 01:08:45.439
tablet with AI? Who do you trust more? Now you

1034
01:08:45.479 --> 01:08:48.880
may say this is ridiculous, this is dumb. I don't care.

1035
01:08:49.000 --> 01:08:54.000
Go ahead, ignore it. The future's coming whether you like

1036
01:08:54.079 --> 01:09:00.239
it or not, and Christianity will finally catch up. Any

1037
01:09:00.279 --> 01:09:03.119
may get law left behind. But I'm telling you the

1038
01:09:03.159 --> 01:09:09.039
next generation is going to be like, wait, AI says this,

1039
01:09:11.800 --> 01:09:14.720
AI says that your theological biases is showing AI is

1040
01:09:14.720 --> 01:09:17.000
seing that that's not what that means. Ai, I mean

1041
01:09:17.119 --> 01:09:20.279
people have already been googling things. Now now it's just

1042
01:09:20.359 --> 01:09:25.279
takes it to a whole new level. Now, maybe Christianity,

1043
01:09:25.359 --> 01:09:27.359
Christianity is going to be able to just say, well,

1044
01:09:27.399 --> 01:09:29.439
we don't need all of that stuff, we don't need

1045
01:09:29.479 --> 01:09:32.439
that technology as of the devil. We just need the

1046
01:09:32.479 --> 01:09:34.560
bibble in the Holy Spirit and we're good. Well, you

1047
01:09:34.560 --> 01:09:37.560
can continue to obliterate the meaning of the text, twist

1048
01:09:37.560 --> 01:09:41.079
the scriptures and be clueless, or maybe it's time for

1049
01:09:41.159 --> 01:09:45.119
Christians to go hmmm, We've been utilizing tools for two

1050
01:09:45.159 --> 01:09:52.119
thousand years. Sermons, books, theological works, catechisms, we've been using

1051
01:09:52.279 --> 01:09:55.239
We've been using tools for two thousand years, and all

1052
01:09:55.279 --> 01:10:00.800
the tools that have been generated by men, right, we've

1053
01:10:01.199 --> 01:10:04.159
failed and failed and failed. Now AI is still produced

1054
01:10:04.159 --> 01:10:07.880
by men. It's created by men. But if you can

1055
01:10:08.039 --> 01:10:12.119
remove men's biases from it and just allow AI to say, here,

1056
01:10:12.199 --> 01:10:15.399
analyze the data, don't worry. I don't want any bias.

1057
01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:16.840
I don't want you to give I want you to

1058
01:10:16.880 --> 01:10:18.600
just tell me what the text means based on what

1059
01:10:18.640 --> 01:10:22.880
the text says based off its original context, and what

1060
01:10:22.920 --> 01:10:25.239
it would have meant to the original recipients. I think

1061
01:10:25.239 --> 01:10:28.119
we get somewhere much closer than we get with people.

1062
01:10:33.319 --> 01:10:39.319
So an art museum wanted to do an experiment with

1063
01:10:39.439 --> 01:10:44.600
an Ai Jesus. They think they learned a lot. That

1064
01:10:44.640 --> 01:10:48.079
means there's going to be more studies coming in the meantime.

1065
01:10:48.159 --> 01:10:52.800
I engaged AI, asking it, okay, so what are your strengths,

1066
01:10:53.319 --> 01:10:57.199
what are your weaknesses? Can you do this better? And

1067
01:10:57.319 --> 01:10:59.600
AI gave me its strengths and told me what it

1068
01:10:59.600 --> 01:11:01.399
can do. And if you look at the strengths and

1069
01:11:01.399 --> 01:11:04.239
what it can do better, ladies and gentlemen, those are

1070
01:11:04.279 --> 01:11:06.880
the very things that we need to get a correct

1071
01:11:06.920 --> 01:11:10.359
interpretation in scripture. And if it can do better, then

1072
01:11:10.399 --> 01:11:14.600
we can logically that would state it can do better

1073
01:11:14.640 --> 01:11:28.560
than us. Now, typically when I do things like this,

1074
01:11:29.079 --> 01:11:32.359
people just ignore me, think I'm stupid, think it's a

1075
01:11:32.359 --> 01:11:37.600
waste of time, and then ten years later I'll be like, yeah,

1076
01:11:37.800 --> 01:11:42.279
don't you remember I said that? Don't you remember when

1077
01:11:42.279 --> 01:11:49.199
nobody ever remembers this is going to have a profound impact.

1078
01:11:50.439 --> 01:11:58.800
I hope I'm around to see it. AI is going

1079
01:11:58.880 --> 01:12:03.079
to have a profound impact on Bible interpretation and theology.

1080
01:12:05.000 --> 01:12:07.880
It may take fifteen to twenty years. I think it's

1081
01:12:07.880 --> 01:12:10.760
going to be sooner than that. I think probably Christianity

1082
01:12:10.800 --> 01:12:13.279
is always behind about ten years, so I think within

1083
01:12:13.359 --> 01:12:16.439
ten years we're going to definitely start seeing its impact,

1084
01:12:16.920 --> 01:12:31.640
and I think maybe even sooner. Thanks for listening. Only

1085
01:12:32.520 --> 01:12:34.319
you guys are going to be the ones who make

1086
01:12:34.319 --> 01:12:37.399
the determination. I think it's going to be the people

1087
01:12:37.479 --> 01:12:41.520
in the pew. This is my thinking. The people in

1088
01:12:41.560 --> 01:12:44.079
the pew, I think, are going to be the ones

1089
01:12:44.119 --> 01:12:46.399
more impacted than the people behind the pulpit. I think

1090
01:12:46.399 --> 01:12:48.239
the people behind the pulpit are going to push back

1091
01:12:48.279 --> 01:12:51.840
on it, saying you need me, you need me, you

1092
01:12:51.960 --> 01:12:56.119
need me, and the people in the pew may go, no,

1093
01:12:56.199 --> 01:12:58.319
I don't, because every time I take your sermon and

1094
01:12:58.359 --> 01:13:01.399
analyze it under AI, it tells me how wrong you are,

1095
01:13:01.479 --> 01:13:03.800
So maybe I don't need you. I think that's what's

1096
01:13:03.840 --> 01:13:08.800
going to happen. Thanks for listening. God bless