Jan. 19, 2025

AI and Isaiah 40:11

AI and Isaiah 40:11

AI and a discussion about Isaiah 40:11 and baptism

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AI and a discussion about Isaiah 40:11 and baptism

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Looking at our world from a theological perspective. This is

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the Theology Central podcast, making Theology Central. Good morning everyone.

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It is Sunday, January the nineteenth, twenty twenty five. It

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is currently ten six am Central Time, and I am

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coming to you live from the Theology Central studio located

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right here in Abilene, Texas. Well. For all of twenty

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twenty five, one of the major focuses that we have

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had has been our ongoing discussion about artificial intelligence, it's

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impact on Christianity, it's impact on the Church. We've kind

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of taken artificial intelligence and we've said AI versus sermons

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and over and over and over. So far, AI has

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won every single time. It has taken sermons apart. It

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has challenged them, basically disagree with them, said that they

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were wrong, tore them apart, pointed out logical fallacies, hermeneutical errors,

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factual errors. It's just it's been brutal to see what

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AI can do to sermons. So so far, I have

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been more than impressed with how artificial can handle. Artificial

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intelligence can handle theology, hermeneutics, philosophy, logic. It far exceeds

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anything that we can do. And not only that what

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it can do with just studying a text of scripture.

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It can break it down, it can outline it, it

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can summarize it. It can give you an observation and

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observational outline. It can give you an interpretive outline. Any

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Bible study method that you know of, chapter, summary, textual,

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or topical, thematic word study you just named the Bible

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study method. You can ask AI, do this Bible study

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method on this passage of scripture, and it will give

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you the an entire Bible study on that passage of scripture,

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whichever one Bible study method you are thinking of, and

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it will do so in about five seconds. It can

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break the text down better than any person. So I

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have been nothing but impressed until yesterday. Yesterday I found

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myself going, what is happening at this very moment? So

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I'm going to explain everything that led up to it,

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my confusion with artificial intelligence, then my back and forth

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with it, and then kind of how this conversation ultimately

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ended with artificial intelligence, because I was just so perplexed

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and confused. And what this demonstrates, I think is well,

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artificial intelligence is a tool. It's going to determine the

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usefulness of it will be determined by our ability to

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use the tool. And that's true of anything. If you

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have a great tool, if you have a hammer, but

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you don't know how to use it, or you're using

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it incorrectly, a hammer could do more damage than it

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could do good. Artificial intelligence is the same way. Your

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ability to use the tool will determine its ultimate usefulness.

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And if it's going to prove to be a good

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thing or a negative thing, it's how we use it.

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But we've got to learn how to use it. And

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I think a lot of people, again, a lot of

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people approach artificial intelligence as just a fancy Google search.

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I've been condemning that forever. It Know the thing about

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artificial intelligence, it's not a Google search. It is a

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It's something you can reason with. It's something you can

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debate with. It's something you can literally argue with. As

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this situation is going to demonstrate, you can challenge it.

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It will challenge you, Okay, it will tell you no,

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I think you are wrong. You can be like, no,

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I think you are wrong. You can literally go back

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and forth with it. So here's what happened. As everyone knows,

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if you've been listening for any length of time. We

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have been working on a series from Isaiah chapter forty,

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verse one to the end of Isaiah chapter fifty five. Now,

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the reason we've been working on this series and this

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section of scripture is because sermon after sermon after sermon

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created by humans, over and over and over. Now I

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think I've reviewed, now I know I've listened to I

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haven't reviewed, but I've listened to well over one hundred

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sermons on Isaiah forty through fifty five, and we have

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yet to find one that handles the text and anything

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that could be considered a correct way that it's mishandled

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misapply over and over and over. They go to Isaiah

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chapter forty, sermon after sermon, and they insert us into

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the text and they move out the original recipients. They

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just kick them out. They're like, you're done, you're finishing.

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It's about us, It's about me, It's about you, instead

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of talking about them, talking about they, it's all about me, you,

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we and it's like, how does this happen? And it's

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been it's been frustrating, it's been irritating, it's been depressing,

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it's been discouraging. It's like, come on, and so we

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have been reviewing sermon after sermon after sermon, and now

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we are also doing our own study of Isaiah forty

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through fifty five, because it's easy to criticize sermons. So

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I'm like, Okay, well, we're gonna make sure we understand

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Isaiah forty to fifty five better than anyone could ever

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possibly understand it. And we've already spent hours upon hours

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upon hours working on this, and we've just now gotten

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to Isaiah chapter forty, verses nine through eleven, which is

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where we're supposed to be today. But I think I'm

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going to leave it for the church, since we've kind

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of been doing the actual teaching of the text at

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the church. I don't want to. I don't want to

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change it up. I want to I want to keep

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it there. But we've been working on and here on

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the podcast, what have we been doing. We've been reviewing

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the sermons on Isaiah forty you know, just Isaiah forty

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all over the place, Isaiah forty three, anywhere, anywhere in

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Isaiah forty to fifty five. But yesterday, because I knew today,

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I thought I was going to be preaching on Isaiah

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forty nine through eleven. I'm like, well, a good way

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to do some sermon prep is to review a sermon

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on Isaiah forty ninth through eleven. And let's to be Now,

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what caught my attention about the sermon was it gave

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the title of the sermon, but then it had parentheses

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and it said baptism. And I'm like, well, how in

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the world are you going to preach a sermon on

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Isaiah forty nine to eleven I talk about baptism. That

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completely baffled me and confused me, Like, how is that

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even possible? Isaiah forty If you look at nine to eleven,

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I mean, how does this? I mean, just this has

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nothing to do with seminary Bible college. You could be

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an atheist and figure this out. Isaiah chapter forty, verse nine.

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Look at how it begins, Oh Zion, that bring us

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good tidings. Get the up into the high mountain, Oh

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Jerusalem that brings good tidings. Lift up thy voice with strength,

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lift it up. Be not afraid say unto the cities

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of Judah. All right, anyone just basically reading, going, oh,

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here's a message to the cities of Judah. Here's a

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message to the cities of Judah. Why would God be

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sending a message to the cities of Judah. Well, you

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go back to Isaiah chapter thirty nine, verses five through eight.

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It's because they're in Babylonian captivity. This is called It

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starts off with comfort, Ye, comfort my people. In Isaiah

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forty verse one, there's a message just to be sent

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to the cities of Judah. And Isaiah forty verse n

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I what God is bringing comfort, He's bringing a message

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to those of Babylonian captivity. It doesn't require Bible education

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at all. Just basic reading comprehension can figure this out.

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Why preachers just constantly destroy this text. I have no idea,

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So it seems pretty simple. So when I see a

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sermon that's going to connect this to baptism, you got

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to see why. I'm gonna be somewhat baffled and confused.

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So we've got to listen to this. Now, on one hand,

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of all the sermons that I've reviewed and all the

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sermons I've listened to on Isaiah forty through fifty five,

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this one, in some cases did the better job because

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it at least talked about the history. It read the

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entire chapter of Isaiah forty it tried to put it

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in some kind of historical context. It tried to, but

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then as quickly as it did all of that, it

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made a hard pivot boom. It's just like you know,

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you're driving down the road. Someone grabbed the steering wheel

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yanked it and we went through a fence into the

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field and hit three cows. Because I don't know what happened,

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but all of a sudden, we are so far off

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the road. Because the next thing, you know, Isaiah forty eleven,

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he shall feed his flock like a shepherd. All of

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a sudden, we became the flock. All of a sudden,

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it became about him being your shepherd, him being my shepherd,

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and the cities of Judah were quickly forgotten. He shall

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gather the land with his arm. So then now it's

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all of a sudden, it's a picture of Jesus picking

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you up and gathering you in his arms, and he

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carries them in the bosom. Now that them now becomes you,

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that them becomes me. Jesus picks us up, and he

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carries us, and he holds us close to his bosom,

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and he shall gently lead those are with young. And

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now it's about all of us, and it's about small children,

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and it's about women who give birth to babies, and

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all of a sudden it became about babies being baptized.

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And I'm like, what just happened? How did we get

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to babies being baptized? And it was almost at least well,

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then they ultimately referred to baptism as a sacrament. At

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least they were consistent there. But I'm like, so in baptism,

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Jesus feeds us, Jesus gathers us, Jesus carries us close

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to his bosom. There was just so many theological problems.

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So I was just like, this is confusing. Well, as

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I'm reviewing the sermon, I just said, well, let me

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ask Ai. So I asked Ai the question. Now listen

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to the way I phrase the question. All right. Now, Remember,

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I mean, I'm live on the air when I do

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these reviews, and I go into the sermons blind, right,

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I don't know what's going to happen in a sermon.

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When I listen to now this one, I had some

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idea that I thought it was going to go bad.

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I didn't know really how bad it was going to go,

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but because it started off so well, but I never

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know what's going on. So I'm just like, I'm baffled

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by what's happening that this sermon is turning into like

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some justification or proof of infant baptism based on Isaiah

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forty eleven. And just remember Isaiah forty eleven has nothing

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to do with the Church, has nothing to do with baptism,

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has nothing to do with sacraments, has nothing to do

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with salvation. It's about the cities of Judah being delivered

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from physical captivity and Babylon, Like, I don't even know

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how this if you can make that happen, the ladies

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and gentlemen, the Bible literally has no there's no objective meaning.

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And I think the reality is from a practical level,

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this may not be true. This may not be true

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from like an actual like if you care about truth,

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but I think from a practical level, we have to

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admit this. I don't know when Christians are going to

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but we have to admit this. At a practical level,

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the Bible is basically we just make it say whatever

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we want it to say. And when we look, I

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know Christians are going to get mad at that. But

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come on, now, if you can go to Isaiah forty eleven,

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and make that about infant baptism, ladies and gentlemen. Then

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the Bible has no objective meaning, it's subjective, and we

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just read it anyway we want, and we can we

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can sit in church and pretend give me a break.

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It's just it's it's no, it doesn't work. So I

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was confused, so I asked AI this question. Again. Listen

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to how I phrased the question. But I was shocked

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about what happened. Now. I didn't really have the time

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then to get into it because that would have derailed

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the entire sermon review, right, and the sermon review I

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think we went almost two hours trying to review the sermon.

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So but I wanted to get back to it. So

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I'm like, okay, I'm gonna do it this morning. I'm

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gonna at least try to get back to this and

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just show you. Because we've been talking about AI and

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how it works. This is going to be a good example.

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So are you ready? So now, listen to how I

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phrased the question. This is the key. Because I was

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in a hurry, so I said, how could a pastor

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connect Isaiah forty eleven, Chapter forty verse eleven to baptism

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and be accurate to the text. Now, notice how I

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said that, how could a pastor do this? How could

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it be done? Now, what I was hoping to get

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back was an immediate response from AI going it's not

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there's no way, this is not possible. It should not

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be done. But because I said said how could it occur? Well,

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then what AI attempts to do is to try to

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find a way to make it happen. And we'll get

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into where AI acknowledges what it's doing later on, but

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this is their initial response. I've got to go through

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this quickly because there's a lot here. Because when AI

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gives you these theological responses, there are many books. I

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mean literally, you could take almost some of these responses

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and just copy them and turn them into a PDF

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file because there are many books. They really are. It's

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amazing how much content will give you and a short

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amount of time. But this is what AI said. And

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I was baffled by this response, completely confused, because this

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is the first time I was ever like, wait, what

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are you doing? What is going on here? This is

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what AI said, connecting Isaiah forty verse eleven to baptism

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can be done in a way that respects the original

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context of the text while drawing meaningful philological connections. However,

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this must be approached carefully to avoid misinterpreting or over

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extending the passage. Below is a guide for how a

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pastor could make this connection accurately. Now I love the

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fact that Ai said, Okay, you do have to be

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careful here, but hey, I'm gonna try to show you

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how it could be done, and it could be done accurately. Now,

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I was baffled that even Ai would attempt this, because

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I was hoping Ai was just going to be like,

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are you out of your mind? What are you doing?

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AI was like, okay, well, I'm going to try to

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show you how it could happen. But it did at

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least tell me you gotta be careful here. You gotta

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be careful because you could end up misrepresenting or over

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extending the passage. But then this is what Ai did.

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Number one. It gives me the original context of Isaiah

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forty vers and it says primary meaning. Isaiah forty verse

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eleven describes God as a shepherd who tenderly cares for

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his people during their deliverance from exile. He quotes Ai

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quotes Isaiah forty verse eleven. It states this, he will

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tend his flock like a shepherd. He will gather the

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lambs in his arms. He will carry them in his bosom,

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and gently lead those that are with young. This is

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a message of comfort and reassurance to the exiled Israelites,

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emphasizing God's compassionate care and guidance during their return to

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the land. Now, please note immediately gives me the original context.

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It gives me the original meaning in the fact it

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says original context of Isaiah forty eleven. It says, here

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are the key themes God's sovereign power and tender care.

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God is a faithful shepherd who provides for and protects

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his people. And which people is he providing for? Which

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people are he is he protecting the people of Judah

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as they return from Babylonian captivity. So the provision and

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the protection has a very specific historic setting and historic connection.

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Because again, sermon after sermon after sermon's like, well, God

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will feed you, God will protect you. Ununtul he doesn't

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protect you, Okay, Well, then it gets all kinds of confusing,

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but at least day I acknowledged, Hey, here's the original context.

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This is where it gets confusing. Number two, philological themes

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and Isaiah forty eleven related to baptism. And this is

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where I was like, what is happening right now? Now?

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I like, the sermon is Prey is playing in the

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background right and I and you know, playing for everyone listening,

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And I'm sitting here in silence, going what is happening? Ai?

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What are you doing? I want to start engaging in

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a debate with Ai, but I have to be listening

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to the sermon because I'm supposed to come back in

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and offer, you know, critique, analysis, whatever. And I'm sitting

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here going, AI, what are you? What are you doing? Ai?

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What is happening? How can you find philological themes in

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Isaiah forty verse eleven related to baptism? And at this

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point I am completely baffled. So AI does this God

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as shepherd and baptism's symbolism. Now, please know AI refers

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to baptism symbolism. Now why is that important? Because it

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seems to me that AI is approaching baptism clearly not

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as a sacrament, but as an ordinance. Because we say,

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baptism symbolizes our union with Christ, that in Christ we

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have been crucified, died, buried, and we have been raised

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a new life. Right. All this is all referencing our

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position in Christ. It symbolizes what has happened to us spiritually,

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where a sacrament is a means of grace, where it

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actually is making something occur. So the fact that it

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says baptism symbolism almost like, okay, that's a thiological clue.

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AI seems to be approaching this from an ordinance perspective,

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not as sacramental perspective, all right, But the fact that

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it's connecting it to Isaiah forty verse eleven is confounding

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and confusing to me. So it breaks it down this way,

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God as shepherd and baptism symbolism. Shepherd's care reflects God's

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covenant faithfulness, and baptism God's covenantal care for his people

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is symbolized as baptism marks inclusion into the covenant community.

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Now that's Matthew twenty eight nineteen. So basically it's like, okay,

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when you're baptized, this demonstrates that now you have been

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brought into basically the church. Okay, I understand. I don't

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think that has anything to do with Isaiah forty verse eleven,

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just because the word uses shepherd. I don't think I should.

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I have all kinds of problems with that, right I mean.

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Ai goes on to say, just as God gathers and

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cares for his flock, baptism signifies God's initiative and gathering

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his people into his kingdom. And again I would that

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right there. See, that's using sacramental language. Baptism symbolizes God

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bringing us in. It symbolizes what's happened to us spiritually.

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It doesn't cause it to happen or initiate to happen

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unless you're gonna use baptism as a sacrament. So we

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already have some some conflict here. Ai goes on to say,

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gathering the lambs and baptism's inclusion of the vulnerable, the

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imagery of God gathering lambs and carrying them close to

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his heart can reflect the Church's practice of baptizing children

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and traditions that support infant baptism becoming new believers into

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the fold. Well, that's exactly what happened in the sermon.

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Gathering the lambs, the lambs of the little children, and

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we baptize them and we bring them into the fold.

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Well again, Isaiah forty eleven has nothing to do with that.

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But what AI's trying to do is like, well, you

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could borrow the symbolism. But again, Isaiah forty eleven is

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not symbolism. It's speaking of God doing things in a

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very tangible, physical, material way, because He's literally, in a

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tangible way, going to remove them from Babylonian captivity, bring

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them back into Jerusalem so that they can literally physically

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materially rebuild Jerusalem and the Temple. It's not a symbolic passage,

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and maybe using poetic language, but it's pointing to literal,

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tangible things. So I've already got all kinds of problems

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with this. So I see what Ai is trying to do. Oh,

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at this point I didn't understand what Ai was trying

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to do. I was confused, all right. So that it

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goes on God's tenderness and the new life of baptism.

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While Isaiah forty verse eleven does not directly mention cleansing,

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the shepherd imagery implies nurturing and protecting the flog, which

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aligns with the idea of baptism as a sign of

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God's cleansing and sustaining grace. Well, is it a sign

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or does it cause it? Again Isaiah forty verse eleven,

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about actual things. So I'm already confused, like, wait, are

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you taking Isaiah forty eleven is all symbolic or are

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you just taking the themes and saying that they can

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be symbolic of this? But you're taking a passage about

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a literal deliverance and now making it about symbolism for

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something that happens spiritually. It gets all confusing and confounding.

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So I'm all connected here. So then AI says, well,

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how do you connect Isaiah forty verse eleven to baptism

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and a sermon? Well, respect the text original meaning. You

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need to emphasize that Isaiah forty eleven is primarily describes

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God's care for his people during their deliverance from exile.

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Explain that the passage reveals God's character as a shepherd

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who tenderly cares for his flock, which is a consistent

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theme throughout scripture. So AI says, Hey, if you're going

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to do this in a sermon, you got to at

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least make sure you emphasize the original meaning. Well, and

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the sermon that we listened to they did emphasize the

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original meaning. But what's the point of emphasizing the original

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meaning If fifteen to twenty thirty minutes into the sermon

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you're gonna leave the original meaning and make it about

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something totally not related to me, It would be better

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just ignore the original meaning since you're not you don't

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care about it in the first place. Why take the

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time to pay it some lip service when you're just

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gonna leave leave it soon after then, Ai says, you

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can draw biblical theological connections. You can shepherd imagery in Jesus.

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You can connect Isaiah to Jesus the good Shepherd. All right,

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the New Testament teaching on baptism show how baptism symbolizes

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God's work of gathering, cleansing, and nurturing. So that's that's

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basically what AI wants to do. Go to the New

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Testament and show that baptism symbolizes Now, please know, Ai

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returns to a more of an ordinance idea, not a

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sacramental idea. AI says, Okay, go to the New Testament

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and show how God that baptism symbolizes cleansing and or gathering,

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cleansing and nurturing, gathering, cleansing and nurturing. Then you can say,

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as God does this and baptism, or as baptism symbolizes

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God doing this for us spiritually. Well, we can see

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the parallel to what God did physically for Israel coming

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out of babelauing captivity. I don't know why you would

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even want to bother doing that. What's even the point? Hey,

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as God did this for Israel physically, God does for

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this for us spirit I guess maybe if you were

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going verse by verse the Isaiah forty and you wanted

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to draw some kind of application, maybe, But again, you're

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taking something that's about a physical deliverance, and now you're

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connecting it to baptism, which is a symbol of our

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spiritual deliverance. It just seems like it's you're conflating, confusing.

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It makes no sense to me. All right, So then

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AI gives me a sermon outline, like, hey, if you

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want to preach this, here's the sermon outline. I didn't

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even ask for it. It gives me an entire sermon outline.

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It gives me the title of the sermon. It gives

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me the introduction, gives me the points, gives me five points.

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But then guess what AI does. It says, but wait,

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there's some cautions here. So then AI gives me three cautions.

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Number one, avoid over spiritualizing the text. Don't reduce Isaiah

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forty eleven to a generic symbol of God's care. Keep

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its original context in view. So even AI knows, hey,

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I'm trying to help you do this. It's almost like

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AI thought that I was wanting it to give me

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a sermon on connecting Isaiah forty eleven to baptism, and

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almost like a I was like, Okay, I'm going to

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try to help you. But even then AAR pushes back

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multiple times, and it pushes back saying wait, wait, wait,

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do not over spiritualize the text. AI says, do not

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reduce Isaiah forty eleven to a generic symbol of God's care.

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Keep the original context in view. So AI knows this

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is a questionable thing you're asking me to do, but

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it's not really pushing back as much as I thought

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it would. Number two, it says, acknowledge the difference in

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focus Isaiah forty eleven is about God's care for his

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people during exile. It is not about baptism. Any connection

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must be drawn through broader biblical themes. So it says, hey,

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you've got to be very careful. Let everyone know, Hey,

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Isaiah forty eleven, it really doesn't have anything to do

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with baptism. But we're gonna take some themes and Isaiah

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forty eleven, and we're gonna now rip these themes and

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go connect them to something in the New Testament about baptism.

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Even AI knows you're going to acknowledge that there's really, really,

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there's no reason you're using Isaiah forty verse eleven. There's

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no point in even doing so. Number three, now look

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at this, AI says, don't imply. Now, this is where

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AI becomes very dogmatic. Do not imply that baptism saves well,

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Baptism is a sign of God's work. Salvation is by

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grace through faith. Now I thought that was fascinating. AI's like, no, no, no, no, no,

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no no. You cannot make baptism baptism salvific. You cannot.

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That almost destroys the sacramental concept of it. So then

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I'm like, oh, wow. So eight. Now, now that's where

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AI becomes dogmatic. Now before it's trying to almost appeal.

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It thinks that I want it to connect Isaiah forty

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eleven to baptism. So it's doing everything it can. It

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offers a warning at the beginning, it offers a warning

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at the end, and then it's emphatic and what you

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cannot do, you cannot say baptism, says I was blown

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away that AI would be at least that dogmatic, all right,

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So then it gives me some discussion questions and then

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I start asking you. So now I'm not going to

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read all of this because I'm just going to tell

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you where the conversation went. But I'm going to tell

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you what happened next. So again, this is still going

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on while I'm trying to review a sermon. So I'm

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I'm listening to a sermon. I'm entering, I'm you know,

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I'm breaking into the sermon. I'm offering this observation, this

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this at the same time I'm having a conversation with AI.

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So I'm having a conversation with Ai, I'm listening to

457
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a sermon, and I'm broadcasting. I'm doing all of this

458
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at the same time. So then I ask Ai, well,

459
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if you connect Isaiah forty eleven to baptism, wouldn't you

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have to then approach baptism as a sacrament? Well, then

461
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Ai says, connecting Isaiah forty eleven to baptism does not

462
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necessarily require approaching baptism as a sacrament, but it does

463
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depend on how one interprets and applies the text. Let's

464
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explore this issue from both perspectives, sacramental and non sacramental,

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and will analyze the implications of making such a connection.

466
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All right, So then Ai goes into this long So

467
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what would it mean to approach baptism as a sacrament? Well,

468
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then it breaks it down a sacramental view traditions like Catholicism, Orthodoxy,

469
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some Protestant denominations, Anglicans, Lutherans, baptism is viewed as a sacrament.

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A sacrament is understood as a means of grace where

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God works through the physical elements water in baptism to

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convey spiritual realities, for example, regeneration, inclusion in the covenant community.

473
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Connecting Isaiah forty eleven to baptism in a sacramental framework

474
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might emphasize God's active work of gathering, nurturing, and cleansing

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his people. So in this particular case, if it's sacramental,

476
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well then the baptism does not simply symbolize gathering, nurturing,

477
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and cleansing. It actually is doing the gathering and the

478
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nurturing and the cleansing. The idea is that baptism is

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not just a symbol, it's an actual means of God's

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shepherding care. So then if you take Isaiah forty eleven,

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and this is why I think you have to make

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it sacramental, is way Isaiah forty eleven, that's God actually shepherding,

483
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actually gathering, actually feeding, actually caring for Israel, for Judah,

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and bringing them out of their physical captivity and delivering

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them physically. It's a tangible it's an actual thing. There's

486
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nothing symbolic going on here. So I'm going to connect

487
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it to baptism. Then baptism would have to actually be

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doing something in a practical, tangible way. So that's why

489
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I think you have to make it sacramental. Again, I

490
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still think even from a sacramental point of view, I say,

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if forty eleven has nothing to do with it, so

492
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then AI gives me the non sacramental view and traditions

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like Baptist or evangelical circles. Baptism is typically seen as

494
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an ordinance, a symbolic act of obedience that publicly demonstrates

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faith but does not convey grace. Connecting Isaiah forty eleven

496
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to baptism in this framework, you emphasize god shepherding care

497
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as symbolized by baptism, where believers declare their trust in him.

498
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Baptism is a sign of God's covenantal promises, reflecting his

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ongoing care for his people. Right, so Isaiah forty eleven

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be connected without treating baptism as a sacrament. Well, then

501
00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:08.279
it attempts to try to connect it, going okay, you

502
00:31:08.319 --> 00:31:11.839
can make it all symbolic, But then this goes against

503
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AI's earlier warning about not making the passage over spiritualizing it.

504
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So it goes through here and I could read everything

505
00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:25.319
it says, And then it offers me, if you want

506
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to take it as a sacramental approach, this is the

507
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way you would do it if you're doing it a

508
00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:32.680
sacramental So it gives me both approaches. It makes a

509
00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:37.200
little chart for me. Right, then it gives me practical

510
00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:41.400
consideration for preaching. All right, so it tells me some

511
00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:47.000
things here and then it gives me some questions. So

512
00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:50.400
then so after all of that that was yesterday, I

513
00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:54.039
kind of just forgot about it. I'm like, you know what, fine,

514
00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:57.079
you know, I don't know what's going on here. I

515
00:31:57.160 --> 00:31:59.559
was just kind of I was kind of irritated. I'm like,

516
00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:02.680
that is crazy. But I knew that sooner or later,

517
00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:04.440
I was going to have to return to the conversation.

518
00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:08.039
So I came back and I said, all right, Artificial

519
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:11.519
intelligence AI, this is what I wrote. I said, I

520
00:32:11.559 --> 00:32:16.000
am a little confused on why you seemed so or

521
00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:22.400
seemed too easily to accept a sermon connecting Isaiah forty

522
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:26.039
eleven with baptism, considering the text has nothing to do

523
00:32:26.119 --> 00:32:29.960
with baptism, the church, salvation from sins, sacraments, ordinances, or

524
00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:33.880
anything like that. Can you explain the reason and justify

525
00:32:33.960 --> 00:32:38.119
your response and explain where I may be wrong? So

526
00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:40.240
I wanted to give it every opportunity to tell me

527
00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:43.119
that I'm wrong. I wanted to give every opportunity to

528
00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:46.599
justify its response because it made no sense to me.

529
00:32:47.240 --> 00:32:51.279
Because AI typically is like the text, the text, the text,

530
00:32:51.279 --> 00:32:53.680
the text. This is wrong, this is wrong, this is wrong,

531
00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:57.559
and so I was confused. So here's what AI did.

532
00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:02.480
This is how AI responded. He says, you are absolutely

533
00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:09.039
right to raise this concern. Upon reflection, I should have

534
00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:15.039
been more cautious and precise in my initial response. You

535
00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:18.759
are correct that Isaiah forty eleven in its original context

536
00:33:18.759 --> 00:33:21.920
has nothing directly to do with baptism, the church, salvation

537
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:25.920
from sins, sacraments, or ordinances. Now Here is where AI

538
00:33:26.000 --> 00:33:28.720
truest to justify what it was trying to do. My

539
00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:35.079
response was aimed at exploring how some might try to

540
00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:39.480
make a connection through broader theological themes. But I see

541
00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:44.640
now that doing so could risk misrepresenting the text. Let

542
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:49.000
me address this more carefully, explain my reasoning, and evaluate

543
00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:53.200
whether such a connection is justified or not. So now

544
00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:55.480
AI was like, Okay, thank you for bringing this to

545
00:33:55.519 --> 00:33:58.039
my attention. Here's what I was trying to do. I

546
00:33:58.079 --> 00:34:01.519
was trying to say, well, see if we can find

547
00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:03.440
a way to make this work. Let's see. So in

548
00:34:03.480 --> 00:34:05.920
other words, I thought you were asking me to try

549
00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:09.320
to do it. Well, you know, maybe I shouldn't have

550
00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:11.440
done that. And then here's how it breaks it down.

551
00:34:11.599 --> 00:34:15.960
So number one, this is what Ai says. What Isaiah

552
00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:20.679
forty eleven is actually about the original context. Isaiah chapter

553
00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:23.760
forty is part of a larger section of Isaiah chapters

554
00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:27.039
forty through fifty five that speaks to God's promise of

555
00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:34.480
comfort and restoration to his people Israel after the Babylonian exile. Now,

556
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the one thing is, even when it tried to connect

557
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:41.079
it to baptism, it kept emphasizing the original context, the

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original meaning, the original audience. So Isaiah AI has been

559
00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:49.239
consistent in doing that. It goes on to say, Isaiah

560
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forty eleven uses shepherd imagery to describe God's compassionate care

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for his people as he gathers them back to their

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land at highlight his tender leadership and faithfulness to his

563
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covenant promises to Israel. The key themes in Isaiah forty

564
00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:10.679
eleven God is the shepherd of his covenant people Israel.

565
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The focus on national restoration and comfort after exile, a

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00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:19.239
promise of God's faithfulness to bring his people home. Conclusion,

567
00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:23.039
this is what Ai says. There is no direct or

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00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:28.280
even implied reference to baptism, the church, or salvation from sin,

569
00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:33.400
and the text itself, so it does acknowledge all of that. Now,

570
00:35:33.559 --> 00:35:37.480
if you go back to those original responses, it kept

571
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:41.039
trying to warn me, but it was never as dogmatic

572
00:35:41.320 --> 00:35:43.960
other than saying, you know, you can dogmatically not say

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00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:47.840
baptism saves. It was very dogmatic about that. But here

574
00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:50.400
it finally says you're right, there is no direct connection.

575
00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:53.039
I'm like, thank you, I know that. Then it goes on,

576
00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:57.000
why did I initially accept the connection. Now here's where

577
00:35:57.039 --> 00:36:01.920
AI tries to explain itself. I responded to the question

578
00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:08.800
as if you were asking how one might philologically apply

579
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or connect Isaiah forty eleven to baptism through broader biblical themes.

580
00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:20.519
My reasoning included, So now AI is I love that

581
00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:24.920
even AI acknowledges it's reasoning. It's thinking in real time.

582
00:36:25.159 --> 00:36:28.400
That's what's so fascinating about this. So it's like, hey,

583
00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:31.039
I thought you wanted me to try to do this.

584
00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:34.360
Here's what I was thinking. The shepherd imagery as a

585
00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:37.480
broader biblical theme. The idea of God as a shepherd

586
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:40.320
is echoed in Jesus ministry, particularly in his role as

587
00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:43.440
a good shepherd. Philologically, some might connect this to the

588
00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:47.559
broader work of salvation, which baptism symbolizes, so it sounds

589
00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:51.400
like there's a broader like, Oh, Isaiah forty eleven mentioned shepherd.

590
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:55.679
Shepherd is connected with God like shepherding, doing this for

591
00:36:55.760 --> 00:36:58.920
his people, which is what he does in salvation. Baptism

592
00:36:58.960 --> 00:37:04.400
symbolizes salvation. Therefore the broader theme may connect. So it

593
00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:06.000
was just like, oh, you want to find a way

594
00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:09.480
to connect it, well, you connect it in a very broadway. Okay,

595
00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:13.559
Well great, that doesn't do anything for Isaiah forty eleven,

596
00:37:13.639 --> 00:37:15.760
and I think it's ridiculously an attempt to do that.

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So number two theological reflection I allowed. This is what

598
00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:27.000
Ai says. I allowed for the possibility that a pastor

599
00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:33.440
could draw symbolic or thematic connections between Isaiah forty eleven

600
00:37:33.440 --> 00:37:37.840
and baptism, using the passage as an illustration of God's

601
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:42.679
care and gathering work. Then Ai goes on to say,

602
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I assumed the question was about exploring potential pastoral applications

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rather than requiring a strict exegetical focus. Now, when I

604
00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:02.199
read that, I was like, you just summarized my entire

605
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:08.960
problem with church, my entire problem with sermons, and one sentence.

606
00:38:09.239 --> 00:38:15.599
Let me read that again, Ai says, I assumed the

607
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:24.800
question was about exploring potential pastoral application rather than requiring

608
00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:33.599
a strict exegetical focus. When pastors stand behind pulpits and

609
00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:41.519
preach sermons, strict exegetical focus is thrown out of the

610
00:38:41.559 --> 00:38:45.360
window because everyone sitting in the pew wants a nice

611
00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:48.760
little sermon with three points where they get a little

612
00:38:48.800 --> 00:38:53.079
touch of a little sentimental feel They get a they

613
00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:57.000
get a little sense of spirituality. They like that sentimental idea,

614
00:38:57.079 --> 00:39:01.760
that encouraging good feelings. That oh, they even wanted to

615
00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:04.719
be convicting and challenging, but they wanted to have a

616
00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:10.400
more pastoral application. They don't care about strict exegetical focus

617
00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:13.599
because if they cared about strict exegetical focus, they would

618
00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:16.119
hate ninety nine percent of the sermons that are preached.

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Even AI is like, oh, I thought you wanted like

620
00:39:19.639 --> 00:39:22.119
to give you a typical kind of sermon. Remember what

621
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:26.599
AI did without me asking It gave me a sermon outline. Remember,

622
00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:30.280
so AI was thinking that I wanted it, Like, oh,

623
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:33.039
as a pastor, how would you do this? Okay, well,

624
00:39:33.119 --> 00:39:34.719
let me show you how our pastor would do this.

625
00:39:35.079 --> 00:39:39.519
And I which irritates me that AI just assumed that

626
00:39:39.639 --> 00:39:42.400
I wanted a nice little sermon so I could preach

627
00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:45.159
a nice little sermon to my people. I don't care

628
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:50.840
about pastoral application, which are supposed to care about the text.

629
00:39:52.039 --> 00:39:55.320
So then AI said where I went wrong, not me.

630
00:39:55.840 --> 00:39:59.880
AI's acknowledging where it went wrong, A I said it

631
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:05.159
three mistakes. Number one, the first mistake, AI acknowledges making

632
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:09.800
that it overreached in its application. While there are theological

633
00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:13.880
connections to themes like God's care and gathering, these connections stretch

634
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:21.039
beyond what Isaiah forty eleven actually addresses. I know, I

635
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:22.760
don't know what in the world was going and you

636
00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:26.360
know why. You know what. You know why AI overreached

637
00:40:26.400 --> 00:40:30.079
in its application because it started trying to think as

638
00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:33.719
a pastoral application. It was like, oh, I'm trying to

639
00:40:33.760 --> 00:40:38.159
give you a sermon. Sermons don't care about exegetical focus.

640
00:40:38.840 --> 00:40:43.639
Even AI knows that, well, I don't want a stinking sermon.

641
00:40:44.679 --> 00:40:49.320
I want to understand the text. Sermons are the enemy

642
00:40:49.400 --> 00:40:56.159
to understanding. Sermons blind people from seeing the text. Number two,

643
00:40:56.239 --> 00:41:01.079
the second mistake, AI says I ignored the text specificity.

644
00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:04.880
I failed to emphasize that Isaiah forty eleven is explicitly

645
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about God's promise to Israel. It is not about baptism

646
00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:10.920
or broader New Testament themes. It is not It is

647
00:41:10.960 --> 00:41:13.639
not about New Testament themes. I don't care the fact

648
00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:16.400
that it used the word shepherd. It's about God shepherding

649
00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:22.400
Israel out of Babylonian captivity. It's not about me. Even

650
00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:25.679
AI finally acknowledges that it ignored it. Why did it

651
00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:28.079
ignore it because it thought I wanted a little sermon

652
00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:30.960
it wanted I thought you wanted a pastoral approach. I

653
00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:33.039
don't care about a pastoral approach. I want to know

654
00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:38.159
the text. Third thing, AI admits that it did wrong

655
00:41:40.599 --> 00:41:45.840
respecting context over application by being too readily. I was

656
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:52.159
too ready to explore a philological application. I allowed for

657
00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:55.840
a connection that risks distorting the text meaning. See it

658
00:41:55.880 --> 00:41:59.800
thought I wanted application. See this is where application when pastors.

659
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:04.320
So much of preaching is about application. But when you

660
00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:07.320
start your application, you have a tendency to destroy the

661
00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:11.320
actual meaning of the text. Application must always flow from

662
00:42:11.360 --> 00:42:13.840
the actual meaning of the text. It must be consistent

663
00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:15.920
with it. But it thought, oh, I just thought you

664
00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:18.360
wanted a pastoral application. Well, the minute you want a

665
00:42:18.360 --> 00:42:21.039
pastoral application. We don't care about the actual meaning of

666
00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:28.039
the text. So then AI said, should Isaiah forty eleven

667
00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:35.199
be connected to baptism? No, there is no direct connection.

668
00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:39.000
Isaiah forty eleven is not about baptism. It's not about salvation,

669
00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:42.039
it's not about the church. To connect it to baptism

670
00:42:42.159 --> 00:42:45.280
risk reading New Testament concepts back into an Old Testament

671
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:51.320
text where they don't belong. This is a Jesus, This

672
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is not exe Jesus. This is is of Jesus. This

673
00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:57.400
is the exact thing we are not supposed to do,

674
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:09.480
saying that forever. All right, So then it gives me

675
00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:13.519
a better way to preach or teach Isaiah forty eleven.

676
00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:17.519
All right, So it gives me some ideas. It says

677
00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:20.360
where I was right. You were correct to challenge the

678
00:43:20.440 --> 00:43:23.599
idea of connecting Isaiah forty eleven to baptism. The text

679
00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:25.880
has nothing to do with baptism, the Church, or New

680
00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:30.239
Testament sacraments or ordinances. Making such a connection risk distorting

681
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:33.960
the text and confusing its original meaning. Preaching should respect

682
00:43:33.960 --> 00:43:39.280
the historical and theological context of the passage before drawing application.

683
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While I and then this is how AI concludes, while

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I initially explored how Isaiah forty eleven might be thematically

685
00:43:48.320 --> 00:43:53.320
linked to baptism, this was a mistake in terms of

686
00:43:53.440 --> 00:43:57.960
exe Jesus and theological precision. Isaiah forty eleven is about

687
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God's faithful care for Israel during their restoration from exile,

688
00:44:01.920 --> 00:44:05.039
and should not be connected to baptism in a way

689
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that detracts from its original context. Any application should flow

690
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from the text message about God's character and his covenantal faithfulness,

691
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not to impose an unrelated theological idea on to it.

692
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All right, so it gives me reflection questions. It talks

693
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about faithfulness to the text. So so then I go

694
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on and we have back and forth about sacraments and

695
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and uh, the sacramental view. I asked some more questions

696
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about that. So then I finish all of that. So

697
00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:48.199
then I asked, hey, it could I have asked the

698
00:44:48.280 --> 00:44:51.639
question in a better way? Since you since you kind

699
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of took the concept and you thought I wanted this,

700
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How could I have asked the question in a better way?

701
00:44:58.079 --> 00:45:01.480
So then AI says, here's some things you could have done. Right.

702
00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:05.599
AI says, here's how you might phrase your question differently.

703
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Now this is important. This is the whole reason I'm

704
00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:10.239
doing this, And even though we're at forty five minutes,

705
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this is the reason I'm doing this because I've tried

706
00:45:12.920 --> 00:45:17.679
to explain to everyone. AI is a tool. I think

707
00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:20.159
it's one of the greatest tools ever created in the

708
00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:24.079
history of the human race. What it can do is

709
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mind blowing. It's staggering the fact that I'm sitting here

710
00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:30.800
reasoning with it, that you've never been able to do

711
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:35.440
anything like this. Right, I'm having philological hermoneutical reasoning with

712
00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:39.960
artificial intelligence, and artificial intelligence is even able to go, well,

713
00:45:40.519 --> 00:45:41.960
this is what I was trying to do. This is

714
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:44.199
where I went wrong. Right, It can do that at

715
00:45:44.199 --> 00:45:48.360
the same time, it stays dogmatic about certain things. So

716
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I'm like, well, the issue, obviously was how I asked

717
00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:54.760
the question. So AI said, here is how you might

718
00:45:54.880 --> 00:46:03.159
phrase your questions differently. Number One, specify the desired focus

719
00:46:03.159 --> 00:46:07.079
on accuracy to the text. You could frame the question

720
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with a direct emphasis on analyzing whether such a connection

721
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is valid based on the original context meaning of the passage.

722
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For example, Isaiah forty eleven is about God's deliverance of

723
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Israel during their restoration from exile. Some may try to

724
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connect this passage to baptism. Is this approach consistent with

725
00:46:27.159 --> 00:46:32.480
the text context and meaning analyze and critique such a connection.

726
00:46:33.400 --> 00:46:38.199
This phrasing emphasizes a critical evaluation and specifically calls for

727
00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:42.880
consideration of the original text. So basically AI is like, Hey,

728
00:46:43.239 --> 00:46:45.920
you need to be specific about what you want me

729
00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:49.880
to focus on now. And typically I probably would have

730
00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:55.000
said analyze, critique, but because I was broadcasting live, I

731
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just had to say, Hey, how can one make this connection?

732
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And a I was like, well, here's how someone could

733
00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:03.320
do it, not saying it's right, not saying it's wrong,

734
00:47:03.320 --> 00:47:07.440
but this is how someone could do it. But even then,

735
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:09.760
just I still love the fact that even though AI

736
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:12.679
tried to say here's how you could do it, what

737
00:47:12.760 --> 00:47:17.119
did AI do? It still gave me those warnings. It

738
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still gave me warnings. A second thing, AI said, you

739
00:47:21.400 --> 00:47:26.360
could invite a critical lens rather than an exploratory one. Basically,

740
00:47:26.440 --> 00:47:29.239
what I was saying, you just asked me to explore

741
00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:32.119
the idea of is it possible? Well, when do you

742
00:47:32.159 --> 00:47:36.079
allow me to explore? When you allow me to explore,

743
00:47:36.440 --> 00:47:41.280
I can do I'm going to explore it. So it says,

744
00:47:41.320 --> 00:47:44.960
instead of invite a critical lens, instead of asking how

745
00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:49.599
one could connect Isaiah forty eleven to baptism, ask whether

746
00:47:49.679 --> 00:47:54.400
one should make such a connection. For example, you could

747
00:47:54.440 --> 00:47:56.679
ask it this way, would it be appropriate to connect

748
00:47:56.679 --> 00:47:59.639
Isaiah forty eleven to baptism? Critique this approach and a

749
00:47:59.679 --> 00:48:03.920
lot of text, historical, and theological context. This approach steers

750
00:48:03.960 --> 00:48:08.440
the response towards a critique rather than the exploration of

751
00:48:08.519 --> 00:48:14.360
what could be possible. See you've got to learn how

752
00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:19.239
to use the tool. Number three prompt for philological and

753
00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:23.159
contextual analysis. If you want a deep focus on critiquing

754
00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:26.800
theilological assumptions behind such a connection, you could frame the

755
00:48:26.920 --> 00:48:30.519
question to invite analysis. So it says you could ask

756
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the question this way. If someone connects Isaiah forty verse

757
00:48:33.880 --> 00:48:37.199
eleven to baptism, would this require holding a sacramental view

758
00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:40.719
of baptism? Evaluate whether this connection aligns with the original

759
00:48:40.719 --> 00:48:45.679
context of Isaiah forty eleven and broader biblical theology. Number

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four emphasize a neutral evaluation to ensure that my response

761
00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:56.039
doesn't default to what might align with perceived preferences. You

762
00:48:56.079 --> 00:48:59.719
could request neutrality, so it says I could ask the

763
00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:03.880
question in this way critically evaluate whether connecting Isaiah forty

764
00:49:03.960 --> 00:49:08.239
eleven to baptism is faithful to the text original meaning,

765
00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:15.920
please avoid assuming anythiological system and focus solely on the text,

766
00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:22.039
historical and literary context. So, hey, be neutral, don't answer

767
00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:25.639
this question and accordance to one's a philological system. I

768
00:49:25.639 --> 00:49:28.159
don't want you to give me a phiological system, so

769
00:49:28.239 --> 00:49:32.199
sometimes you have to specify. You want neutrality, you do

770
00:49:32.280 --> 00:49:39.119
not want your team's theology. Then Ai said, my initial

771
00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:44.920
response leaned into how someone might connect the passage rather

772
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:50.280
than stepping back to critique whether they should. This happened

773
00:49:50.280 --> 00:49:55.159
because your question left space for interpretive exploration, and I'm

774
00:49:55.159 --> 00:50:07.360
mistakenly prioritized illustrating possible approaches over critically evaluating them. And

775
00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:11.760
then me and Ai would go on and then, and

776
00:50:11.800 --> 00:50:14.039
then Ai said this at the end, This is the

777
00:50:14.119 --> 00:50:18.440
very last thing Ai said, Moving forward, I will work

778
00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:23.679
harder to critique interpretive approaches where where appropriate and ensure

779
00:50:23.719 --> 00:50:26.920
responses are grounded in the text. Meaning, thank you for

780
00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:32.079
your patience and for highlighting this area for improvement. Now,

781
00:50:32.119 --> 00:50:34.599
what I love about that is that ultimately gave me like, hey,

782
00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:36.679
you got to be very careful how you asked the question,

783
00:50:36.679 --> 00:50:39.760
because if you asked me to explore how something could

784
00:50:39.760 --> 00:50:42.440
be done or how it could possibly be done, I'm

785
00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:44.320
going to give you all the possible ways it could

786
00:50:44.400 --> 00:50:48.039
be done. But see, it's not. It wasn't giving me

787
00:50:48.079 --> 00:50:51.360
whether it should be. It was just showing me how

788
00:50:51.400 --> 00:50:55.719
it could be done. Meaning I could probably go to

789
00:50:56.280 --> 00:50:58.960
I could probably go to AI and ask it how

790
00:50:59.039 --> 00:51:01.920
I could connect any verse to anything, and it's gonna

791
00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:04.679
give me all the possible ways it could be done.

792
00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:07.039
It's not, But I still love the fact that even

793
00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:09.239
though it was trying to show me how it could

794
00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:12.880
be done, it gave me warnings at the beginning and

795
00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:17.519
at the end, Hey be careful, don't over spiritualize, be careful,

796
00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:21.519
remember the original context. Even though it wasn't dogmatic and

797
00:51:21.559 --> 00:51:25.159
it didn't fight me, but even when it was trying

798
00:51:25.159 --> 00:51:28.119
to give me how it could possibly be done, it

799
00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:32.719
still tried to say warning, be careful, be careful, be careful.

800
00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:39.199
You've got to emphasize this. So it comes down to

801
00:51:39.480 --> 00:51:41.639
AI was able. And again, just look at all of

802
00:51:41.639 --> 00:51:45.960
that everything AI did there, and I skipped large segments.

803
00:51:46.559 --> 00:51:50.480
I mean, it had lengthy discussion about sacraments, ordinances, sacramental

804
00:51:50.519 --> 00:51:53.280
approach to baptism, an ordinance, approach to baptism? What a

805
00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:56.239
sacrament is, what an ordinance is? Which groups believe this?

806
00:51:56.440 --> 00:51:59.320
How would you approach the baptism this way? Gave me

807
00:51:59.400 --> 00:52:03.159
all the cross references versus everything, and it did it all,

808
00:52:03.440 --> 00:52:07.800
all of that conversation when with AI's responses all take

809
00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:14.639
you know, just like five seconds. But what does it demonstrate?

810
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:19.079
AI is a tool. Until we become better at using

811
00:52:19.119 --> 00:52:23.079
that tool, we're going to have sometimes these these difficulties

812
00:52:23.119 --> 00:52:25.519
trying to figure out what it's trying to because it

813
00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:31.840
when we ask something, it's got to interpret what I'm asking.

814
00:52:31.960 --> 00:52:34.039
So IT thought you, oh, you want me to give

815
00:52:34.039 --> 00:52:36.039
you all the possible ways it could be done? Okay,

816
00:52:36.039 --> 00:52:38.719
well here's the let's explore the possible ways it could

817
00:52:38.719 --> 00:52:41.960
be done. You didn't ask me if it should be done.

818
00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:44.400
You did not ask me if it would be correct

819
00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:47.280
to do so. You didn't have you didn't ask me

820
00:52:47.320 --> 00:52:50.639
to critique any attempt to do so. So I gave

821
00:52:50.639 --> 00:52:52.920
you the possible ways, but I still gave you a

822
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:58.199
warning twice. Now, I think whenever AI gives you a warning,

823
00:52:58.239 --> 00:53:01.920
that's a pretty good idea for you to go. Hmm, okay,

824
00:53:02.119 --> 00:53:03.800
now let me but I say I didn't have the

825
00:53:03.840 --> 00:53:06.440
time to rephrase the question because while I was in

826
00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:11.119
the middle of broadcasting. So there's Isaiah forty verse eleven.

827
00:53:12.119 --> 00:53:14.119
How some try to connect it to baptism, and I

828
00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:17.440
think now we can clearly dogmatically assert that is a

829
00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:22.039
horrible idea and that is a mishandling of the text

830
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:27.039
to an epic level. All Right, we'll stop there and

831
00:53:27.079 --> 00:53:31.159
then we'll do another broadcast here shortly. All right, thanks

832
00:53:31.159 --> 00:53:35.920
for listening, everyone, have a great day. Isaiah forty nine

833
00:53:35.960 --> 00:53:38.880
to eleven. Keep focusing on it because we get a

834
00:53:38.920 --> 00:53:41.039
lot of work to do on it. But man, I

835
00:53:41.039 --> 00:53:43.199
can tell you this, it's not about baptism. And if

836
00:53:43.239 --> 00:53:46.239
anyone says that it is, I don't know what's going on,

837
00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:50.519
because something has gone way wrong to put baptism and

838
00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:52.960
to say that it's a proof text for infant baptism

839
00:53:53.079 --> 00:53:55.679
is even more confusing. All right, Thanks for listening. God

840
00:53:55.679 --> 00:53:56.000
bless