Feb. 20, 2025

A Cultural Revolution?

A Cultural Revolution?

A discussion about culture and where it is headed.

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A discussion about culture and where it is headed.

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Looking at our world from a theological perspective.

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This is the Theology Central podcast making Theology Central.

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So what comes to your mind when you hear the

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word revolution? What comes to your mind when you hear

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the word revolution? Now, for me, there's only one answer,

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the only thing that comes to my mind when I

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hear the word revolution. Now, I got to be very

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careful here because I don't want to break any copyright laws.

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But I mean, come on, this is what forget what

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comes to your mind? But if your answer is not

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what I'm about to play for you, then let me

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just say your answer is wrong. The only thing that

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should come to your mind when you hear the word

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revolution is That's the only thing that should come to

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your mind. That's the Beatles, Okay, revolution, right, every I

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could read all the lyrics to you, but I will

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not bother That's what should come to your mind. Hopefully

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I'm not going to get in trouble for some copyright violation, right,

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but that is revolution by the Beatles. That's the only

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thing that should come to your mind. However, we're going

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to talk about it. Well, I don't know, are we

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kind of talking about the revolution the Beatles? We're talking

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about what revolution where they're referring to do you know

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what is the song about? Okay, no, no, we won't

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get it. We won't get into lyric analysis right there

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there at all. We won't. But that's what comes to

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my mind. But I'm going to do everything in my

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power for the next I don't know, ever, how long

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we are on the air to talk about, well, I

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guess a cultural revolution that may be occurring has occurred.

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I don't know, but we're going to talk about all

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of that right after I say good morning everyone. It

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is Thursday, February the twentieth, twenty twenty five. It is

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currently ten five am Central Time, and I am coming

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to you live from the Theology Central Studio located right

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here in Abilene, Texas. Now, when we talk about a

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cultural revolution, and that's kind of what the Beatles we're

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talking about right where they talking about a cultural revolution,

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and don't they kind of say, well, if you're talking

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about this, I'm with you, but if you're talking about this,

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I'm not with you. They kind of were trying to

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determine where, you know, what part and how they would

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play in any form of a revolution. Again, you can

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go listen to the song. It's the Beatles. Let me

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come on. Who doesn't know that song? All right? But

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a cultural revolution is a significant and often radical transformation

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of a society's cultural, social, and ideological structures. So when

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we talk about a cultural revolution, we're talking about a

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significant and often radical transformation of a society's cultural, social,

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and ideological structures. It typically involves a deliberate effort to

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reshape traditions, values, and institutions, often driven by political, audiological,

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or social movements. Right now, I really want you to

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write down. I always tell you guys to do this.

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I don't think anyone ever takes me serious. I always

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tell you to write it down, put it on the refrigerator.

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I always tell people to do these things. No one

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ever listens to me. I know, I know none of

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you listen to me. You just roll your eyes and say, oh,

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he's so ridiculous. But I mean it. Sometimes write these

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things down, put them in a location, because then you

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can spark the conversation for the entire day cultural revolution.

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Now I want you to write down cultural revolution. You

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can put it on the refrigerator, put it somewhere, and

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then put like one, two, three, four, five, name five

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cultural revolutions that play it as significant role in history.

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Cultural revolution number one? What would you name cultural revolution?

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Number two? What would you name cultural revolution? Number three?

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What would be the top five cultural revolutions? And again,

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A cultural revolution is a significant radical transformation of society's cultural, social,

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and ideological structures. It typically involves a deliberate effort to

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re shape traditions, values, and institutions, often driven by political, ideological,

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or social movements. The key characteristics of a cultural revolution

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is number one, shift in ideology, a fundamental change in beliefs, values,

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or norms, often challenging traditional or existing systems. Now, whenever

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you have a cultural revolution happening, whenever you have this

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major shift in ideology, I think we have to at

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least acknowledge this. There's going to be some people are

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going to be very un happy about it. They're gonna

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be bothered. They're not going to like it. They're gonna

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be like, I want to go back to the good

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old days. I don't like this anymore. And they will

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push back because they don't like it. They will resist it.

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People don't like when things change. Some people like things

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to stay the same way they were back when they

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were in high school, or they want to go back

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to the nineteen fifties, or go back to the nineteen forties,

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or to the nineteen sixties. Some what they fell was

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the glorious you know era and whatever they think it was.

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Now many cases, the remembrance of that era may have

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been good for maybe them, but not for other people.

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But there's always this pushback. This morning, I was watching

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a video where there was a group of men and

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they were all complaining and griping and upset and it's

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a tragedy and we got to get back to it

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and we've got to save it. And what were they

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so upset about. DVDs have gone away. The stores don't

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sell physical DVDs and Blu Rays anymore. Everybody's gone to

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this crazy streaming stuff. And I want to go back

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to the days where I can buy an actual DVD

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and a Blu Ray. And then someone who was showing

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on his shelf all of his Blu Rays and it

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was like, look at all of my physical media. Look look.

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And it wasn't even really arguing about like over quality,

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and they didn't even deal with all like them they

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I mean, they did talk about the cost, but not

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only the cost of physical media. You gotta store all

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of it, right, you gotta have room for it, Okay,

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and just right. But it was just funny because they

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were just like, you know, we need to go back

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to the good old days now. They I'm not saying

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I'm not saying that they didn't make any valid points,

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but they didn't like that. There's been a revolution, a change.

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I don't know if we will call digital media a

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cultural revolution, but it did change all of society. It

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did change everything, all the streaming services. Now again, there's

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always going to be complaints. But just what I'm just

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using that more to show is that that were whining

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and complaining, and I am saying that in a negative

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way because it just sounded like, you know, an old

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person like, get off my yard. This country is going

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to the you know, it's falling apart because of these kids.

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You know.

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It sounds like that, you know, and sometimes it just

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it drives me crazy. But it's a shift in ideology,

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it's a change, and whenever that happens, some people are

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not going to be happy. Mass mobilization is another key

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characteristic of a cultural revolution. It involves large segments of

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society and promoting or enforcing new cultural ideals. So all

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of a sudden, everyone kind of gets on. When I

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say everyone, a majority gets on board, and then they

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start pushing for this and trying to go this direction. Now,

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sometimes within a cultural revolution, you have a suppression of opposition,

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you have resistance to the revolution is often met with censorship, persecution,

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or re education. Now I'm not a fan of that

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in any way. Shape or for a cultural revolution is great,

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but if you change and then you're like, but now

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we're gonna persecute anyone who opposes speaks against us, and

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we're going to silence them, That's that's not a good thing.

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You know, Hey, We're going to go to America for

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religious freedom, and now we're going to take away the

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religious freedom of anyone who disagrees with us. Okay, I

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mean sometimes whoever takes control within a cultural revolution has

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a tendency to then oppress, censor, and silence those who

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then oppose the revolution. And well, we can get a

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whole discussion about that. It has an impact on institutions, education, arts, religion,

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and governance are often restructured to align with new cultural goals.

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I know, Christians, I don't like to admit this. Wherever

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culture goes, the Church typically follows in some way, shape

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or form. It may be ten years behind, it may

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be twenty years behind, but it always follows to some level.

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Long term effects of a cultural revolution. These revolutions can

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lead to lasting societal changes, whether positive or negative, and

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and well, and then I can go into some examples

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of some cultural revolutions. I have a couple of uh,

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what three here that I have down, but I don't

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want to I was going to read them, but then

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I'm like, no, I just told you to write down

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on paper cultural revolution and then put one, two, three, four,

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five in name five. I'm not going to give you

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three of the five to start with right here. I'm

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not going to do that. I almost gave it away,

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I say, I almost messed up. I'm not going to

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give you the answer five important cultural revolutions. Now, the

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more you know about past cult revolutions, the better prepared

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you are to see one happening in the present or

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maybe be seeing where one is going in the future. Now,

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why am I talking about cultural revolutions, Because, as I

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mentioned yesterday, I was listening to a live webcast on

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the sermon's two point zero app and the name of

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the message was Understanding Cultural Revolution. I'm like, Oh, what

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a coold title. The second cool thing about that episode

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was they mentioned and talked briefly, well, I don't know

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how long they talked about it. They started talking about

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Dietrich Bonhoeffer's thesis on stupidity, and so I was like,

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oh wow, a Wednesday night church service broadcasting live on

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the sermon's two point oh app entitled Understanding Cultural Revolution

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mentions Dietrich Bonhoeffer's thesis on Stupidity. You, I mean, You've

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got my attention. So instead of continuing to watch the webcast,

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I couldn't I couldn't wait. I couldn't wait. I had

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to had to sneak out of the sanctuary, had to

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go to an empty classroom and like, okay, guys, let's

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go live in five four, three two one, And then

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I did an over an hour long discussion and analyzing

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and critiquing and agreeing or disagreeing with Dietrich Bonhoeffer's thesis

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on stupidity. You can go listen to that. I think

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it was an interesting discussion. Some people may like it,

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some people may not. I think it's worth your time.

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But I wanted to get back to the message, and

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you know, and by the time I got done and

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I came back, well, of course, you know, they'd all

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gone home for the day. So I was like waiting,

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kept refreshing, upload, upload, and I was nervous, right because,

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I mean, I can give you examples time and time

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again on the sermon's two point. Oh app I don't

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get what's going on with broadcasters. They will do a

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live webcast and sometimes they will not upload that live

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webcast after it's done for a week, two weeks. I

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think I saw one time, three weeks. I think I

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saw one time a month.

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What are you.

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Doing if you're live webcasting, why would you not upload it?

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I don't get it. I don't get it. But this church,

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to their credit, they had that thing uploaded early this morning,

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so they may have even uploaded it last night and

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I didn't see it. So I was like, Okay, get it.

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I'm let's talk about it. So I don't know exactly

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where they're gonna go. They wanted me to understand cultural revolution.

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I just kind of gave you a definition and the

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basic characteristics and the key characteristics of a cultural revolution,

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all right, I talked about some of the ways people

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what can happen in a cultural revolution? All right, got it? Great?

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What are they going to do with it? I have

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no idea. Now they're gonna mention Dietrich Bonhoeffer and his

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thesis on stupidity, if they go into that to any

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if they go into it with any depth, Now you

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are equipped. I am equipped to be able to go

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Wait a minute, that's not exactly what Dietrich Bonhoffer was saying.

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We should be able to offer some criticism because we

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spend over an hour studying it. So I don't know

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where this is going to go. I'm interested, and you know,

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we're probably not going to be able to review all

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of this in this particular episode. It's a forty two

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minute message. You know that. Now, let me state this

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right from the start, all right, because people always misinterpret

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what I do. First, when I do a review, I

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haven't listened to all Most of the time, I haven't

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listened to anything in a review first this case, I've

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listened to a little bit of this because I was

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watching live, but I still haven't heard everything. So that

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critique it. No, I go in to listen to it

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because I'm going to listen to it, and I just

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listen to it live with you, and I invite you

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into the process. And no matter how much I criticize this,

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I don't know if I will. But if I completely

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disagree with everything they say, but I'm still grateful for it.

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I'm still glad it's there because why it led to

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over an hour long discussion about Dietrich Bonhoeffer's thesis on stupidity,

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which probably many of you had never even heard of.

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So that's a good thing, right, Even if I disagree

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with their understanding of a cultural revolution, even if they

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predict where we are or where we're going, and if

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I disagree completely with it, it's still positive because you're hearing

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their perspective, you're hearing my perspective, so you benefit as

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the listener. Right. Some people think I just criticize to

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criticize it. No, I'm just listening to a sermon, reacting

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in real time, and if it leads to criticism, it

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leads to criticism. It's not me saying anything bad about them,

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it's me saying I disagree. Now here's my perspective, and

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then the listener gets to hear both. All right, So

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again I think a lot of people so misunderstand that.

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cultural revolution. And oh, you're going to probably need your

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Bible open to the Book of Judges. Here we go.

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The Eel's all right, So if you have your Bibles,

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let's go to Judges chapter twenty one.

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Tonight, Judges twenty one.

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We'll go ahead and dismiss the teenagers at this time,

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and they have their class. And while you're turning there,

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on March second, as I've mentioned, on Sunday, we have

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a church funerals director and their pastors coming in to

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a Q and a on that I met with them

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how they could be a blessing to the church. But

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that's on the second's Sunday, the second in the evening,

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so just a note on that. Also, I'm heading to

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California in a couple of weeks to go and interview

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some interns. And so if you would just pray for

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safety there and back with all the planes coming out

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that all, you know, just pray that we get there

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safely and no problem there. I'm actually not concerned about it.

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safety there and back.

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of their announcements. There've already been going on for like

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I don't know, five or ten minutes. They're going to

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have a chili I think they're having a chili cookoff.

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Fellowship activities, this, that, this, and why do you have

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to dismiss the teenagers to go to their class. They're teenagers,

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for crying out loud, right, there are young adults. By

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the time they're being a teenager, they should be able

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to sit and listen to a full law on well

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even before they become a teenager. But as a teenager,

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it's time for them to dig in, you know, because

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many times they get sent off to little youth group

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where there's not in many cases not even a trained

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pastor teaching them, or it's a so called youth pastor

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and it's all about usually, don't drink, don't listen to

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rock and roll. It's a lot of times I just

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don't get it. They're old enough to sit there and

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dig into doctrine, theology and church history. They are old enough.

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their little youth groups, where in many cases, after they've

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we know this to be true. Churches everywhere have youth

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groups all over the place, right and almost inevitably, right

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when the kids get ready to go to college. Then

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they there's almost like okay, there's this parachurch ministry, or

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there's this resource, or there's this research resource. Because we've

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got to prepare them so they don't go off to

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secular university and have their faith destroyed. Well, what have

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you been doing for four years where they're in the

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youth group, Stop the pizza parties and the fun and

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teach them for crying out loud. It's all of a

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sudden now, oh no, it's almost graduation time. We got

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to prepare them. What have you been doing for four years?

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Five years, ten years? Okay? All right, so drives me

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I'm not saying this church. I'm just saying the church

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culture when it comes to teenage, I'm so opposed to

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the way they typically do youth ministry. All right, So

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but he's going through there, and I find that interesting. Hey,

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pray for my safety. I'm not worried about it, but

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pray for my safety. I guess, well, we could get

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in all the kind of theological questions there. Well we

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won't go there. So all right, see see what happens

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in reviews. But yeah, when it comes to youth ministry,

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encounter with youth I mean I became a Christian basically

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as a teenager and stepped into the youth group, and

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I was like, get me out of this, Like what

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is this nonsense? Like I was, I remember going, I'm

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not going to the youth group. I don't know what

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this is. This is some ridiculousness. This is just it's

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like a game. So I started going to every like

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Bible study, or I'd go to the men. I would

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go to the seniors, youth Sunday school class. I would

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go every everywhere else other than the youth group because

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it was like it was just ridiculous. It was like moralism, shallow, ridiculousness,

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fun games. I don't know, you have to give the

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youth group some like cool name. Like all of it

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was just like you guys. I hate to say it

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coming from it from like a non Christian perspective. As

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a team, I'm like, this is the lamest thing I've

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ever seen in my life. And I know that's a

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very dated term, but this is ridiculous. This is just

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this is just it was just foolishness. Come to church

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to play, you know, capture the flag and lock ins

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and pizza parties. I'm like, I don't know, how about

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you teach me something. I can go home and do

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my own fun. I don't need the church giving me

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some lame fun. But I think it was the church

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kids who loved that stuff, right, They've been growing up

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in church. They liked the idea of having fun and

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doing these kinds of things. I think they And so

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it's a really radically different perspective from the church kid perspective.

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a kid coming out from outside of the church, I'm like, first,

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your fun is lame. And second, if I just coming

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here for fun, I'll just stay at home. I can

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go do something. I can get a group of kids

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together and we can go have far more fun than

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this ridiculous stuff the church is offering me. So it's

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such a different it's such a different perspective. I think

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church kids love it, probably my assessment. And non church kids, well,

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maybe they love it.

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I don't know.

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Maybe I was just that went out. But we get

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past all of that. We need a cultural revolution and

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youth ministry. But I digress.

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I can wisdom when we're there that God would help

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us to find the right men, a couple of men

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to come in and help us this summer.

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All right, Judges, Chapter twenty one. If you haven't, let's

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We'll read one verse tonight and we'll get into not

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really a heavy Bible lesson tonight. I hope you can

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just sort of give me a little grace on that.

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I'm going to kind of move into sort of a

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background of where our nation is tonight, and maybe next

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week we'll start getting digging further into really the problem.

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We're understanding the cultural revolution. That's the title of tonight's lesson,

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Understanding the cultural revolution that our nation is finding itself in.

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I thank the Lord for what's happening from the top down.

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the Lord for that.

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Now, see see, I'm already in trouble here. Okay, it's great.

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What is happening from the top down? Are you referring

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to the Trump administration? And I should be happy what

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the Trump administration is doing. I should be thanking God

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for that. Now. I have right here in front of me,

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and I'm not going to get into this because I'll

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tick off all the Trump supporters, but I have right

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here in front of me thirteen live that Trump has

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to already told. And this is just meant working that

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down to thirteen thirteen huge lies that Trump has stated

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in the first month back in office, and just some

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absolutely ridiculous just flat out lies, misrepresentation, wrong, just absolute craziness. Right,

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and then you know he's basically blaming Ukraine for Russia

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invading them, basically taking Russia side. What in the world

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is that calling for the Palestinians just to be moved off. Hey,

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you're just gone, just go and you don't come back.

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America's gonna own it. Some of these things are just insane,

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and it's like, I'm supposed to be like, whoo, I'm

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so happy with what's happening from the top down. Now.

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Is he referring to something else? I don't know you

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can interpret that. But if he's talking about the Trump administration, okay,

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oh man live, oh man live. I mean, and this

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is not even about being liberal, being conservative you can

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be I know this is shocking. But if I go

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back through my life and you want to talk about

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a cultural revolution, if I go back in my life, right,

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my first stumbling upon kind of a conservative mindset, right

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was it Buckley? William Buckley I think was his name.

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He wrote, He wrote numerous books. I think it's Buckley,

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very conservative writer. Back then, I had stumbled upon a

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book I was I was a teenager. I was at

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the mall all the time, and I was in the bookstore,

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and I would always just look through and just pick

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some kind of random book and it gave like a

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conservative outlook, laying out kind of conservative political perspectives. Right.

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you know, I think I was still a teenager, and

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I didn't at first, I didn't understand what was going on.

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So I was starting to learn about conservative political ideology, right,

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I was starting to try to understand it. Whether I

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agreed or disagree, I understood it. My point is this,

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from that point on, learning and learning and listening and

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listening and learning and listening and reading about things from

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a conservative perspective, I started understanding kind of a conservative ideology,

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Ladies and gentlemen, This whole, the whole Maga Trump movement

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is not the conservativism of back in the day. It's

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something different. And so I can't stand that if you're

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if you throw criticism against Trump, you're not conservative. Or

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maybe I'm not a lunatic. Maybe that's the thing. Yeah,

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not just offended a lot of people. Okay, that's something different.

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It's something other, it's it's it's just something completely different.

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And again, let's make it very clear. Conservativism and the

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MAGA movement. Let's make it very clear. Conservativism and the

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MAGA movement is not Christianity. It never has been, nor

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will it ever be. Christianity is not a part of

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any political ideology. It's separate from it's other than all right,

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Christianity is not pro America. It's not pro Republican, it's

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not pro Democrat. Christianity is pro christ. It's about the

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Word of God. It's a spiritual perspective, not a political ideology.

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And we should not allow a political ideology to hijack

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Christianity and corrupt it. If you want to talk about

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a cultural revolution, that's where I would be. I don't

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know what we're thinking the Trump administration for, but okay, okay,

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I mean, and then he is, you know, spiritual main

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leader of the his like, you know, initiative to I guess,

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try to bring Christianity back. It's PAULA White, absolute complete heretic.

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I mean, come on now, all right, we don't we

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can just spend out on all of that. So but yeah,

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I was just looking at today of some of these

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lies that he told and looking at the facts, going

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that's just not true. That's not true. That's not true,

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that's not true. But I guess it doesn't matter. I

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guess it's just and people are gonna say, but what

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about it's not about pointing to bad behavior to justify

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bad behavior. The bad behavior is bad on any side.

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he seems happy with what's happening from the top down.

462
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But if what's happening from the top down is that

463
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the cultural revolution or is there a different cultural revolution?

464
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Is the Maga movement of cultural revolution? Or is there

465
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something outside? I don't know which way he's going to go,

466
00:26:39.519 --> 00:26:41.759
and how does Christianity fit into all of this. I

467
00:26:42.039 --> 00:26:44.559
got questions, and I had heard at least this point

468
00:26:45.160 --> 00:26:47.720
last night, and I was already asking these questions last night.

469
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And I don't know how long God will let us

470
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have that. But we have had a massive shift from

471
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what we started as a nation. But I want to

472
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address that tonight and see where and where this is going,

473
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and hopefully as a church, we don't have to be

474
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a part of that. We can actually at least identify

475
00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:10.640
the problem and then do what we can to evangelize

476
00:27:10.680 --> 00:27:11.400
and share Christ.

477
00:27:13.279 --> 00:27:15.400
So it's weird. It's like there's two things. He's saying,

478
00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:21.720
we're way far from where the country started, right, But

479
00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:24.240
then there's this positive thing happening from the top down.

480
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So it seems like is he trying to basically say

481
00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:29.599
the Trump administration is the thing fighting the cultural revolution

482
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that he's not in favor of. So oh, I mean,

483
00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:35.880
I don't know where this is going. I've got lots

484
00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:38.240
of questions. And when you always go back to the

485
00:27:38.279 --> 00:27:44.279
early stages of our country, I don't know, guys. I mean,

486
00:27:44.319 --> 00:27:46.839
there was some really messed up things that's happened in

487
00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:49.000
that I know, you're never supposed to talk about the

488
00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:52.880
ugly part of American history. There was some really messed

489
00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:56.559
up stuff that happened, right, I don't know, people being

490
00:27:56.799 --> 00:28:00.519
I don't killed and forced off their land as we

491
00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:03.759
took it and placed into reservations. I don't. I don't.

492
00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:07.559
I don't know. Are those that is that where we're

493
00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:13.359
supposed to be like yay, I don't know. Yeah, there

494
00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:18.160
there's a lot of a lot of things, you know, slavery,

495
00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:21.319
I don't know, taking away people, not giving them the

496
00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:24.119
same rights as we have because they were a different color.

497
00:28:24.359 --> 00:28:27.680
I mean, there's a lot of issues, right, there's a

498
00:28:27.680 --> 00:28:31.200
lot a lot of issues. I don't know. Religious extremism

499
00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:33.920
that I don't know, kills people for falsely accusing them

500
00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:36.599
of being a witch. I don't. I don't. Maybe that's

501
00:28:36.599 --> 00:28:39.640
a problem. I know I always mentioned Salem, but I

502
00:28:39.680 --> 00:28:42.880
mean there's lots of issues. Now people say, well, no

503
00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:46.720
country is perfect, and I agree, I agree, I agree.

504
00:28:46.920 --> 00:28:48.960
But when we say, well, we're far removed from that,

505
00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:51.720
here's what I will say. This is how I view

506
00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:55.160
it from a thiological perspective. I don't care if you

507
00:28:55.279 --> 00:28:58.279
go back to the beginning of the United States of America.

508
00:28:58.599 --> 00:29:00.680
I don't care if you go to the eighteen hundreds,

509
00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:02.960
if you go to the nineteen hundreds, if you go

510
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:06.720
wherever you go. You know what you're always going to see.

511
00:29:06.920 --> 00:29:12.599
Because there's one constant in society sin. Because human beings

512
00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:15.920
are sinful, we do not keep the law of God,

513
00:29:16.359 --> 00:29:18.839
or incapable of keeping the law of God. So the

514
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:22.480
history of humanity, even outside of the United States, is

515
00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:29.079
filled with wrong and sin and horrible atrocities committed in

516
00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:32.559
many cases committed in the name of God. Now and

517
00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:37.200
sometimes within society, the sin is more covered up in

518
00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:41.400
a veil of righteousness. Hey, it's covered in some kind

519
00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:47.880
of you know, the near of religiosity. But the reality

520
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:51.880
is it's always there. It's always there. So whatever. The

521
00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:54.960
cultural revolution is the one thing that's always going to

522
00:29:55.000 --> 00:30:00.880
be present. It's always going to be sin in some way,

523
00:30:01.000 --> 00:30:03.839
shape or form. It just may take on a different shape,

524
00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:06.279
it may take on a different form, but it's always

525
00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:09.200
going to be there. So I'll just go ahead and

526
00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:11.359
get my kind of thesis out of the way. Right,

527
00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:14.839
there is the one thing about culture. Call it a revolution,

528
00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:18.200
don't call it a revolution. The revolution will be televised,

529
00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:20.759
it will not be televised. Whatever you want to say

530
00:30:20.759 --> 00:30:24.359
about the revolution. Sin will always be a part of it,

531
00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:26.759
no matter what. It'll be a part of the side

532
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:30.359
that's for the revolution, it'll be part of the side

533
00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:37.880
opposing the revolution. But there is always sin that is inevitable,

534
00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:39.920
because we are sinners.

535
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All right, Let's go to this verse, verse number twenty five.

536
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You know the verse I think.

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Hopefully you do. In those days there was no king.

538
00:30:51.279 --> 00:30:54.680
In Judges, Chapter twenty one, Verse twenty five. In those days,

539
00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:59.799
there was no king in Israel. Every man did that

540
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:03.359
which was right in his own eyes.

541
00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:06.920
Let's pray for this lesson tonight. Father.

542
00:31:06.960 --> 00:31:07.400
We love you.

543
00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:09.680
We are very thankful tonight that we have a church

544
00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:13.440
to come to, the freedom to be able to meet

545
00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:15.359
the comfort that you've.

546
00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:17.440
Given us to actually meet in a heated building tonight.

547
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:19.079
It is a blessing. Lord.

548
00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:22.759
I remember being in Russia and scraping ice off the

549
00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:25.759
hard wooden planks as the people were coming in out

550
00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:28.519
in the middle of nowhere. And Lord, tonight, we are

551
00:31:28.559 --> 00:31:31.400
a blessed people to have a comfortable place to meet.

552
00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:34.240
And I pray you help and guide Lord us tonight

553
00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:37.519
to truth, give us ears to hear, and help us

554
00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:40.519
to understand where we are tonight as a nation, as

555
00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:43.440
churches tonight, that we would be very careful not to

556
00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:47.119
be a part of the coldness and the indifference to

557
00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:50.319
the things of God that's happening not only in the

558
00:31:50.359 --> 00:31:53.279
public sphere, but even churches across our nation. So I

559
00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:56.640
pray God for blessings and insight tonight. In Jesus name,

560
00:31:56.680 --> 00:31:57.720
we pray, Amen.

561
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Thank you. May be seated now.

562
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:02.599
If you were at the Bible study last night, guys,

563
00:32:02.680 --> 00:32:05.559
I'm not going to go over all of that tonight,

564
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:12.160
but I brought up a thesis written by Dietrich Bonhoeffer.

565
00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:15.079
How many know who Dietrich Bonhoeffer is. Okay, he is

566
00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:18.240
a theologian, a pastor and part of the resistance in

567
00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:21.119
Nazi Germany.

568
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:23.960
I doesn't mention that he's a Lutheran there, but okay,

569
00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:26.759
all right, all right, just kind of I think you

570
00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:29.359
have to kind of throw that in, right, okay, But

571
00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:33.440
because if you're gonna deal with someone's if they're a theologian,

572
00:32:33.839 --> 00:32:36.759
and you're gonna talk about them or say what they believe,

573
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:39.559
let's at least make sure we understand the philological framework

574
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:42.640
from which they are operating. But okay, all right, let's

575
00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:45.319
see what he says about Remember, we studied it, we

576
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:48.519
studied this thesis. Let's see what he says about it.

577
00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:50.440
Well.

578
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:53.200
He was arrested in nineteen forty three, and while he

579
00:32:53.319 --> 00:32:55.720
was in prison, by the way, the man was just

580
00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:58.799
fantastic in terms of trying to wake the church up

581
00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:02.799
in German what was happening and what was coming and

582
00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:05.839
was not listened to, and the church became, in his

583
00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:11.039
opinion his view, lukewarm. They just did not listen to

584
00:33:11.079 --> 00:33:11.640
any reason.

585
00:33:11.920 --> 00:33:12.920
Anyway.

586
00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:16.559
While he was in prison, he wrote a thesis and

587
00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:20.039
basically it's the theory of stupidity.

588
00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:23.119
And yeah, if you want to look it up, you

589
00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:24.039
can actually read this.

590
00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:29.319
And he referenced stupid people in an intellectual He broke

591
00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:33.279
that thing down in an intellectual sense and really showed

592
00:33:33.319 --> 00:33:37.160
that evil men, which of course was in ruling Germany

593
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:38.960
at that time, were only there.

594
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Because of the stupidity of the people following.

595
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:43.799
And he made a very good case on that and

596
00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:48.240
how stupidity is something that can happen to any culture,

597
00:33:48.799 --> 00:33:52.079
and how many times a whole massive shift in cultural

598
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:56.839
think can change when a different leader gets in office,

599
00:33:57.119 --> 00:33:59.119
or a religious leader. And so he made a very

600
00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:02.039
interesting point that the only way that a person can

601
00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:06.079
avoid stupidity is the word of God.

602
00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:12.119
Okay, now see that the only way to avoid stupidity is.

603
00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:13.000
The word of God?

604
00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:16.719
All right, Right, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm gonna verify

605
00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:19.199
this again, all right because I because I I we

606
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:21.840
talked about this yesterday, and I'm like, well, where where

607
00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:22.599
did this come from?

608
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:22.840
Right?

609
00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:28.920
So did Bonhefer. I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm gonna because

610
00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:31.719
I did a little work on this yesterday and I

611
00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:36.559
didn't find anything. I'm gonna look here again. Did Bonhefer

612
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:39.639
say the only.

613
00:34:39.159 --> 00:34:49.840
Way to avoid stupidity is the word of God?

614
00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:54.199
All right? I'm gonna see here if what we get

615
00:34:55.400 --> 00:34:58.760
all right. So okay, now, when I checked yesterday in

616
00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:01.320
a number of sources, I got basically the same thing.

617
00:35:01.400 --> 00:35:03.440
All right, So here here's what we get.

618
00:35:03.880 --> 00:35:06.639
Bonhoeffer does not explicitly state that the only way to

619
00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:09.199
avoid stupidity is the word of God, but his writings

620
00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:12.559
imply that true wisdom and therefore freedom from stupidity, comes

621
00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:16.079
from being grounded in divine truth rather than human ideologies. Okay,

622
00:35:16.119 --> 00:35:19.639
so maybe maybe there is a little element of truth

623
00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:22.960
there that that stated differently than what I founded found yesterday,

624
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:27.079
but both sources say he does not explicitly state that

625
00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:28.920
it's more nuanced than that.

626
00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:33.280
Okay, it says here.

627
00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:38.519
Well. While Bonheffer does not make the statement directly, his

628
00:35:38.599 --> 00:35:42.480
theological framework suggests that true wisdom the antidote to stupidity,

629
00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:46.199
comes from seeking God's truth rather than conforming to worldly thinking.

630
00:35:47.079 --> 00:35:50.199
His broader theological teachings emphasize the fear of the Lord,

631
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:54.719
the need of divine revelation, and the importance of personal responsibility.

632
00:35:55.320 --> 00:36:02.760
All right, Bonhaffer's likely view. In his Christian perspective, Bonhaeffer

633
00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:06.400
would likely argue so that now that now AI here

634
00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:09.800
is making some assumptions that Without the word of God,

635
00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:14.639
people remain vulnerable to deception. Human wisdom alone is insufficient.

636
00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:19.519
True liberation comes from aligning with God's truth. However, he

637
00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:22.480
does not reduce his argument to simple the Word of

638
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:25.280
God is the only way. Instead, he describes stupidity as

639
00:36:25.320 --> 00:36:29.760
a societal and spiritual condition that requires liberation, a concept

640
00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:32.679
that aligns with biblical truth, but is not stated in

641
00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:35.559
exact terms, so it's a little bit more nuanced. Now,

642
00:36:35.639 --> 00:36:38.639
maybe he's just simplifying it, that's okay, But I would

643
00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:42.519
stress something here, right, if the word of God is

644
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:48.559
the antidote to stupidity, and if we define stupidity as

645
00:36:48.599 --> 00:36:51.280
you know, you're kind of like you're just you don't

646
00:36:51.400 --> 00:36:54.639
understand your own mistakes, you don't understand your own error,

647
00:36:54.920 --> 00:36:57.880
you're ignorant, you're you're not you know, you don't realize something,

648
00:36:57.960 --> 00:36:59.800
or you're you know, basically, you're too stupid to real

649
00:36:59.840 --> 00:37:02.840
life something. I think we have to take a step

650
00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:06.480
back and ask ourselves, then why has it been true

651
00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:12.199
within church history? The Christians who know the Word of God,

652
00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:18.199
who memorize it, who study fall for ridiculous things like

653
00:37:18.320 --> 00:37:20.599
I don't know, have you seen some of the nonsense

654
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:23.760
and the charismatic movement. Those people have the Word of God,

655
00:37:24.039 --> 00:37:27.119
they read it, they study it, they memorize it, they

656
00:37:27.239 --> 00:37:29.039
quote it, and the next thing you know, you got

657
00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:32.639
people falling down on the floor, barking like dogs, supposedly

658
00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:37.039
speaking of some unknown tongue, making prophecies that literally do

659
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:44.079
not happen, claiming people are being healed that aren't being healed. Lie, lie, lies, lies, lies.

660
00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:47.800
They have the Word of God. How many times have

661
00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:50.599
Christians who have the Word of God know the Word

662
00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:55.159
of God buy into conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory after

663
00:37:55.239 --> 00:38:01.000
conspiracy theory, shares misinformation, make false accusations count countless times?

664
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:05.280
How can Christians who know the word of God I

665
00:38:05.320 --> 00:38:08.559
don't know falsely accuse people of witchcraft and murder them?

666
00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:14.519
So is the word of God the antidote? And if

667
00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:17.519
the word of God supposedly keeps us from stupidity, then

668
00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:19.159
how come all of us who have the Word of

669
00:38:19.199 --> 00:38:22.000
God I don't know? In two thousand years of church history,

670
00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:24.559
we still can't agree on baptism. We can't agree on

671
00:38:24.599 --> 00:38:26.920
the Lord's Supper. We can't agree on grace. We can

672
00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:30.039
agree on faith, we can't agree on repentance. We can't

673
00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:33.400
literally agree on anything, but the word of God is

674
00:38:33.400 --> 00:38:39.639
the antidote to stupidity, you see. Least I'm going to

675
00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:42.519
at least challenge the hypotheses to a little bit. Right,

676
00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:44.960
I'm going to challenge it a little bit. Now he

677
00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:48.199
may go into greater detail, so there is some truth

678
00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:49.800
to what he's saying. I think it's a little bit

679
00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:52.800
more nuanced. It a little bit more nuanced, And that's okay,

680
00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:55.719
because sometimes when you're preaching and you're not getting ready

681
00:38:55.719 --> 00:38:57.920
to expound on it, you have to summarize it to

682
00:38:57.960 --> 00:39:00.280
some level. So I just wanted to I just wanted

683
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:04.360
to challenge it, you know. And maybe not exactly that way,

684
00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:07.199
but okay, overall, I'll say, all right, you can say

685
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:09.320
you can go with it. We'll go with the idea

686
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:12.239
that that the curatest stupidity is the word of God.

687
00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:16.880
Let's just say that's the hypothesis. I will then argue. Now,

688
00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:18.639
I'm not going to make an argue whether Bonhaffer said

689
00:39:18.679 --> 00:39:21.599
it or not. I didn't say it. What I'm going

690
00:39:21.639 --> 00:39:23.760
to do is I'm going to put forth the idea this,

691
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:28.039
if the word of God is the antidote to stupidity,

692
00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:30.480
then please explain all the things that have happened in

693
00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:33.119
two thousand years in church history, and that we can't

694
00:39:33.159 --> 00:39:36.280
agree on anything, and some of the most ridiculous things

695
00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:40.880
that have been promoted and believed by the very Christians

696
00:39:40.920 --> 00:39:43.639
who have the Word of God.

697
00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:47.079
That's very fantastic theory.

698
00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:49.880
And I thought maybe I just throw that out to you,

699
00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:51.920
but I took a whole forty five minutes and actually

700
00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:55.239
taught through that thesis. And you can compare the word

701
00:39:55.320 --> 00:40:00.239
stupid or stupidity to the word full fool's folly, and

702
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:04.719
then contrasts that with wise, prudent wisdom, and God really

703
00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:08.559
breaks it down. People down into those two groups. You're

704
00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:10.559
either one or the other, and the simple sort of

705
00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:13.559
in the middle. But they believe every word and are punished.

706
00:40:14.239 --> 00:40:16.519
They don't foresee the evil, they don't hide themselves from it.

707
00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:19.119
They're just kind of continuing on and or punished. And

708
00:40:19.119 --> 00:40:20.800
so I went through a list of things that happened

709
00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:25.840
to stupid people, and how many ever said something stupid.

710
00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:29.559
I would like to find his forty five minute teaching

711
00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:32.480
on this that would be interesting to hear. I don't

712
00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:34.159
know if he breaks down the thesis or if he

713
00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:35.960
just takes the thesis and then kind of looks at

714
00:40:36.039 --> 00:40:38.960
it like the way he said, comparing and contrasting it

715
00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:42.760
with the biblical terms full foolish, folly, simple, that would

716
00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:44.960
be interesting. I would love that could be great teaching.

717
00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:46.280
So I have to look and see if we can

718
00:40:46.320 --> 00:40:50.360
find his teaching on it, because if we can, that

719
00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:52.639
would be that would be really fascinating. Whether I may

720
00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:54.639
agree or disagree, but it would be fascinating.

721
00:40:56.400 --> 00:41:00.320
All right, all right, how many of ever did something stupid?

722
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:02.800
All right? All of us have or how many of them?

723
00:41:03.199 --> 00:41:05.679
This is probably less people, but be honest with God,

724
00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:08.320
how many have ever believed something stupid?

725
00:41:08.840 --> 00:41:09.239
Okay?

726
00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:10.000
Okay?

727
00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:11.840
So that doesn't mean we're stupid.

728
00:41:12.119 --> 00:41:14.599
That does mean that we all have the tendency to

729
00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:19.000
be stupid, uh, to to have a dullness of mind.

730
00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:20.360
And that's really what it is.

731
00:41:21.000 --> 00:41:21.320
And so.

732
00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:26.119
Why am I saying that because there has been an

733
00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:28.079
an evidence.

734
00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:30.719
Of a cultural shift in our nation.

735
00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:35.639
Now, before he gets to this evidence of this cultural

736
00:41:35.639 --> 00:41:39.400
shift in our nation, I would ask this, how does

737
00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:45.639
our depravity, which, depending on your theological background, you believe

738
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:52.360
your depravity impacts every aspect of your being? Your mind

739
00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:56.920
your desire. Oh, I know for some people that don't

740
00:41:56.920 --> 00:42:01.679
like this, your will. It impacts every area of your life.

741
00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:07.159
If our depraved nature impacts our mind, then how does

742
00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:11.519
that connect within being stupid, doing stupid things, saying stupid things,

743
00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:15.960
believing stupid things. And as long as the depravity is there,

744
00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:20.280
which it does not go away, you're not freed from it.

745
00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:26.159
Then guess what then throughout your Christian life. So is

746
00:42:26.199 --> 00:42:31.920
the source of our stupidity our depravity, or is the

747
00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:38.320
source of our stupidity intellectual? Now even Bonaffer said it's societal,

748
00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:43.119
it's not intellectual. So I remember bond Hoffert. We went,

749
00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:44.840
we looked at some of the things he had to

750
00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:50.679
say about that. So what do you think, does one's

751
00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:58.880
depravity make us stupid to some definition of that word?

752
00:43:02.840 --> 00:43:06.079
I don't. Well, let's see what is this cultural shift?

753
00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:12.559
What is this cultural revolution? He's about to point out.

754
00:43:11.920 --> 00:43:15.320
A revolution, so to speak. And it's nothing new to

755
00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:15.880
the Bible.

756
00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:19.000
The scriptures actually do and I mentioned several of these

757
00:43:19.119 --> 00:43:22.159
on Sunday, that every man did that which was right

758
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:24.000
in his own eyes. In the Book of Judges, it

759
00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:29.000
was a time where they decided what right was and

760
00:43:29.079 --> 00:43:31.239
they walked in what they thought right.

761
00:43:31.159 --> 00:43:33.760
Was, and so they did right. But they did right.

762
00:43:33.800 --> 00:43:35.920
According to what they thought right was.

763
00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:39.400
So there was no standard, there's no king, and so

764
00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:41.679
everyone's kind of doing their own thing. In fact, and

765
00:43:41.719 --> 00:43:44.519
Saw eighty one, you find the same phrase, almost the

766
00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:48.320
same phrase, about their own hearts. God, he says, So

767
00:43:48.360 --> 00:43:50.639
I gave them up to their own hearts. I mentioned

768
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:54.840
on Sunday, be not wise in your own eyes. And

769
00:43:54.920 --> 00:43:57.239
I can go on and on about the tendency of

770
00:43:57.280 --> 00:43:58.079
every one of us.

771
00:43:58.119 --> 00:44:00.760
If left to ourselves, what does enjoy ourselves?

772
00:44:01.719 --> 00:44:03.760
We are so prone to just we have so much

773
00:44:03.880 --> 00:44:06.519
toxicity in us that we are.

774
00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:08.280
Prone to really mess up.

775
00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:10.840
I think it was Robertson that wrote the song prone

776
00:44:10.840 --> 00:44:14.000
to wander Lord, I feel it prone to leave the

777
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:14.679
God I love.

778
00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:19.639
We have toxicity inside of us, we have sin, we

779
00:44:19.679 --> 00:44:25.920
have depravity inside of us. All right, So what's the

780
00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:30.239
cultural revolution? He said, it's nothing new. Well, then the

781
00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:34.639
issue is the fall. The issue is to pravity. Right now,

782
00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:36.280
Is he going to say that somehow we get the

783
00:44:36.280 --> 00:44:39.639
Bible and we're freed from this, Because again, I can

784
00:44:39.719 --> 00:44:43.199
go back to specific times in American history where those

785
00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:48.760
with the Bible pastors and churches, defended and supported slavery,

786
00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:54.920
defended and supported segregation, defended and supported to not denial

787
00:44:55.119 --> 00:45:01.920
of civil rights to those of a different race. I mean,

788
00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:04.280
we can't deny that right. We can't deny that.

789
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:10.880
And if you know any anything about that story, he

790
00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:14.199
did walk away from God, come thou Fount as a song.

791
00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:17.280
And then years later in a stage coach, a woman

792
00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:19.880
sitting across from him in a stage coach was actually

793
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:23.840
singing this song, Come thou Fount, and she looked up

794
00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:25.400
over the song book and seeing him on the other

795
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:27.360
side of the stage coach, said isn't this.

796
00:45:27.360 --> 00:45:28.880
The most beautiful hem ever written?

797
00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:32.960
And he said to her, well, I'm the miserable man

798
00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:35.559
that wrote that him and I would give a thousand

799
00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:38.559
worlds if I had them to have the happiness that

800
00:45:38.599 --> 00:45:39.840
I had when I wrote that song.

801
00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:42.519
But he got away from.

802
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:45.159
The Lord, and I think the story does finish good.

803
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:48.199
He did get back some of the ground that he lost.

804
00:45:48.599 --> 00:45:51.360
But it's an evident problem that all of us can face.

805
00:45:51.639 --> 00:45:54.280
If left to ourselves, we would mess our lives up.

806
00:45:55.159 --> 00:45:57.280
In fact, you'll find in Roman chapter Won the condition

807
00:45:57.320 --> 00:45:59.679
of Man. He gave them up, gave them up, gave

808
00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:02.239
them over. They did not like to retain God in

809
00:46:02.280 --> 00:46:04.719
their knowledge. And so when you see that all of

810
00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:05.880
us have the.

811
00:46:05.719 --> 00:46:10.800
Tendency to just blow it, all of us have the tendency.

812
00:46:11.159 --> 00:46:15.840
I don't like we have the tendency. No, the point is,

813
00:46:16.079 --> 00:46:19.800
we all blow it, we all mess up. That's why Jesus,

814
00:46:19.880 --> 00:46:22.280
God had to send his son to die for us,

815
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:24.840
and that's why we are saved by an imputed righteousness.

816
00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:29.239
It's not that we have the tendency. We sin. We fail.

817
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:31.440
We don't have the tendency to do it. We live

818
00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:34.239
in a perpetual state of failure. We live in a

819
00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:36.360
perpetual state of sin. It's not like I have the

820
00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:39.119
tendency to mess up. I'm gonna mess up in some way,

821
00:46:39.119 --> 00:46:42.880
shape or form. I already have. I am, I probably

822
00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:46.320
am right now, I will five minutes from now. I

823
00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:48.719
don't love God the way I'm I mean, I could

824
00:46:48.760 --> 00:46:50.599
go through, you know, in all the scriptures and I'm

825
00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:52.719
going to quote so I don't like. It's not that

826
00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:58.039
we have the tendency too. We do. Look, we can't

827
00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:03.400
we can't diagnose cultural revolution if we can't even diagnose

828
00:47:03.679 --> 00:47:08.239
our own condition. We can't diagnose the condition of the culture.

829
00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:11.960
If we can't see our own problem, if I can't

830
00:47:11.960 --> 00:47:14.639
look in the mirror and go, I'm I don't have

831
00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:17.760
a tendency to do wrong. I'm in a perpetual state

832
00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:21.320
of wrong according to God's law. If I can't see that,

833
00:47:21.400 --> 00:47:24.039
and I'm just like, well, I have a tendency, have

834
00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:29.679
a tendency inside of me. No, you have depravity raging

835
00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:33.360
through your entire being. Okay, that's what you have.

836
00:47:35.400 --> 00:47:38.519
To fall away, get out of the will of God.

837
00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:41.679
And so when you see this, this is nothing new

838
00:47:41.800 --> 00:47:43.119
that's happening in our nation tonight.

839
00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:43.760
This is nothing.

840
00:47:43.920 --> 00:47:46.960
This is sort of repeated cycle in history. But our

841
00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:50.400
nation did not start like it is tonight.

842
00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:51.440
It didn't.

843
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:54.039
And as Americans, we're living in the midst of a

844
00:47:54.079 --> 00:47:57.679
cultural sort of a moral shift, massive moral shift just

845
00:47:57.719 --> 00:48:01.480
in the last ten years, and fact, biblical and natural

846
00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:07.480
law principles of truth have been questioned. They have been

847
00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:14.239
replaced with the shifting sands of philosophy. And so many Christians,

848
00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:21.920
of course, are experiencing spiritual failure themselves and morally and ethically,

849
00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:27.360
they're in a philosophical downfall. Our nation is so and

850
00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:29.880
I think Americans, far too many of them tonight have

851
00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:34.800
exchanged long held biblical absolutes and have exchanged them for

852
00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:38.159
secular humanism. And you don't know you're being affected, but

853
00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:39.760
all of us are being affected by it.

854
00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:41.800
Our churches can be affected by it.

855
00:48:42.360 --> 00:48:43.400
So when you look.

856
00:48:43.199 --> 00:48:48.719
At this, this study tonight, it's good for us just

857
00:48:48.760 --> 00:48:53.880
to be reminded of the continual downward spiral of a nation.

858
00:48:54.519 --> 00:48:55.519
I pray for a revival.

859
00:48:55.559 --> 00:48:56.559
I hope we have revival.

860
00:48:56.559 --> 00:48:59.599
I would love to see all the churches that are

861
00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:03.960
Bible believing, Bible Gospel centered churches, Christ centered churches to

862
00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:06.559
be filled to capacity with people waiting to get in line,

863
00:49:06.719 --> 00:49:08.400
get in because when hear the preaching.

864
00:49:08.440 --> 00:49:09.360
I would love to see that.

865
00:49:11.119 --> 00:49:14.360
Again. I just have this. I struggle with this so much,

866
00:49:14.519 --> 00:49:18.679
this idea. I look back back where we had biblical

867
00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:24.239
standards and now we've replaced them with you know, humanism.

868
00:49:25.559 --> 00:49:32.360
But go back in history, go back in history. European

869
00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:36.119
settlers engaged in mass killings, land seizures, and forced displacement

870
00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:39.639
of Native American tribes. I can, I can name some

871
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:44.119
of the massacres that took place. African people were kidnapped,

872
00:49:44.119 --> 00:49:47.320
sold into slavery and subject to brutal conditions. Slavery became

873
00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:50.199
a central economic force and colonies, particularly in the South.

874
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:54.039
You had the Salem witch Trials, which led to executions

875
00:49:54.039 --> 00:49:59.239
and imprisonment of individuals falsely accused of witchcraft. Right, you

876
00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:02.159
have to continua and expansion of slavery, and slave people

877
00:50:02.199 --> 00:50:06.280
were denied basic human rights, subjected to forced labor, family separations,

878
00:50:06.280 --> 00:50:09.559
and brutal punishment. You had the force relocation of thousands

879
00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:13.760
of Native Americans, leading the massive death tolls due to exposure, starvation,

880
00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:17.519
and disease. US expansion led to the annexation of large

881
00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:20.880
territories from Mexico, often justified by the doctrine of so

882
00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:25.039
called manifest destiny. You had thousands of Black Americans were

883
00:50:25.119 --> 00:50:29.079
lynched between the late nineteenth and twentieth centuries. You had

884
00:50:29.079 --> 00:50:32.320
the Tulsa Race massacre in nineteen twenty one, the Rosewood

885
00:50:32.400 --> 00:50:37.559
Massacre in nineteen twenty three. You had systemic legal discrimination

886
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:41.880
against Black Americans and voting, education, housing, and employment. The

887
00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:47.840
US government and states forcibly sterilized people deemed unfit, minorities,

888
00:50:47.920 --> 00:50:51.679
disabled individuals. Well into the twentieth century. You had Chinese

889
00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:55.559
Exclusion Act in eighteen eighty two, first major law restricting

890
00:50:55.559 --> 00:51:00.639
immigration based on race. You had twentieth century moral atrocities.

891
00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:04.239
You had the interment of Japanese Americans. Over one hundred

892
00:51:04.239 --> 00:51:07.880
and twenty thousand Japanese Americans were forcibly removed from their

893
00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:11.119
homes and placed in interment camps during World War TI.

894
00:51:11.760 --> 00:51:15.960
World War Two, you had the Tussegee, a syphilis experiment.

895
00:51:16.079 --> 00:51:19.880
US government deliberately withheld treatment from African American men or

896
00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:22.519
black men with syphilists to study the disease, leading to

897
00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:26.639
unnecessary suffering and death. You had massacres and police brutality

898
00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:31.360
against civil rights movements. Government agencies targeted civil rights activists,

899
00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:39.400
including the assassination of black leaders. You had re housing discrimination,

900
00:51:39.719 --> 00:51:47.920
systemic racial racial discrimination and mortgages leading lending and home ownership.

901
00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:52.119
We could go into all kinds of other things. You

902
00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:55.400
had US involvement and regime changes, coups and wars leading

903
00:51:55.440 --> 00:52:00.480
to civilian casualties Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan. Yeah, I mean,

904
00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:02.920
I could go on and on and on with all

905
00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:07.239
the things that happened through American history. Now, I know

906
00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:10.639
some people say, well, but the difference was the difference was,

907
00:52:10.760 --> 00:52:13.840
though the difference was Again, let me make it very clear,

908
00:52:14.599 --> 00:52:17.960
it's just true of every society. I'm not picking on America.

909
00:52:18.039 --> 00:52:21.280
I could go to any country, any civilization, and you

910
00:52:21.320 --> 00:52:26.320
know what you see atrocities, moral atrocities. Horrible things happen

911
00:52:26.440 --> 00:52:29.239
even with those who hold up a Bible and say

912
00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:33.719
we are Christians, we have the Word of God, and

913
00:52:33.800 --> 00:52:37.239
you commit atrocity after atrocity of ter atrocity because we

914
00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:44.360
are sinners. So I do agree that these things happen

915
00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:47.079
in cycles. Maybe it gets worse and then things will

916
00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:49.360
get better. People will learn some lessons from it, but

917
00:52:49.519 --> 00:52:52.320
it's going to continue. The issue is not because we

918
00:52:52.360 --> 00:52:56.360
have a tendency because we are totally depraved. It's not

919
00:52:56.360 --> 00:53:00.760
because we have toxicity. It's because we have sin inside

920
00:53:00.840 --> 00:53:03.960
of us. So some people can like, you're pointing out

921
00:53:04.000 --> 00:53:07.400
all the bad things America does. You're horrible, you hate America.

922
00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:10.840
You can go to any country, you name the country,

923
00:53:11.000 --> 00:53:14.320
it's going to be filled with moral atrocities. Why because

924
00:53:14.360 --> 00:53:17.079
human beings live in those countries, and what are human beings?

925
00:53:17.159 --> 00:53:21.639
They are sinners, so they are always doing this. Now,

926
00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:27.320
some people may use atheism or humanism as justification others

927
00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:33.480
literally will use God and religion as justification. People sin,

928
00:53:33.920 --> 00:53:38.760
people commit atrocities, and they will use anything to justify

929
00:53:38.920 --> 00:53:42.239
what they are doing. What makes to me the ones

930
00:53:42.280 --> 00:53:45.079
that bother me the most are those who use scripture

931
00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:50.760
and use God as justification for either their political agenda

932
00:53:50.880 --> 00:53:54.800
or their military advancement, and try to justify it, wrapping

933
00:53:54.840 --> 00:53:57.480
themselves in a robe of self righteousness, claiming that what

934
00:53:57.599 --> 00:53:59.960
we're doing we're doing for God, while they in many

935
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:04.000
cases commit horrible acts, like I don't know, killing people

936
00:54:04.280 --> 00:54:11.440
for being a witch. That that's what bothers me, all right,

937
00:54:11.480 --> 00:54:13.440
So let's see where else he goes with this.

938
00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:19.199
I would love to see people just hungering and thirsting

939
00:54:19.239 --> 00:54:21.639
after righteousness. I would love to see that, and that

940
00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:24.119
has happened in our nation a couple of times in

941
00:54:24.159 --> 00:54:28.079
its history, but here recently there's been a change.

942
00:54:28.159 --> 00:54:30.719
And it's a noticeable change.

943
00:54:32.400 --> 00:54:35.079
Also, remember some of the so called times where people

944
00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:39.119
were hungering and thirsting after righteousness. And I believe we

945
00:54:39.199 --> 00:54:42.000
never truly hunger and thirst after righteousness. We always hunger

946
00:54:42.039 --> 00:54:45.320
and thirst after our own self advancement and our own

947
00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:48.960
self pleasure. And that's why that scripture is a law

948
00:54:49.159 --> 00:54:51.639
that condemns us. Okay, but all right, we can get

949
00:54:51.679 --> 00:54:54.400
into a whole law gospel distinction. But let's just make sure.

950
00:54:54.440 --> 00:54:56.800
I think was it the second grade Awakening? I think

951
00:54:56.840 --> 00:54:59.840
that's Finny's the second grade Awakening. Just look at all

952
00:54:59.880 --> 00:55:02.440
the literature at the results of the second grade Awakening.

953
00:55:02.599 --> 00:55:06.440
They called it the burned over District. That it was

954
00:55:06.480 --> 00:55:09.920
a It actually made everyone worse off spiritually. It did

955
00:55:09.920 --> 00:55:12.880
not make people better. How many different times have there

956
00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:16.119
been a so called revival, something great is happening, and

957
00:55:16.159 --> 00:55:20.480
then it's history that looks back going, well, actually that

958
00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:23.360
thing was a total mess. That thing was actually not

959
00:55:23.480 --> 00:55:27.039
a good thing. So, you know, whenever you want to

960
00:55:27.039 --> 00:55:30.719
talk about how things have happened in the past, we

961
00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:33.599
have a tendency to look through rose colored you know,

962
00:55:33.840 --> 00:55:37.679
rose colored lenses through the past. We look back to

963
00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:41.760
the past in a more fun way than it typically

964
00:55:41.800 --> 00:55:46.679
really is. And that's but because again, no matter where

965
00:55:46.719 --> 00:55:49.079
you go, you can look back and go, oh, I

966
00:55:49.159 --> 00:55:51.239
wish I lived back then. And if you live back then,

967
00:55:51.320 --> 00:55:54.639
you know what, you would see the same sinful people,

968
00:55:54.840 --> 00:55:58.480
with the same sinful mindset and the same sinful actions.

969
00:55:58.719 --> 00:56:01.679
Their just sin would just be revealed and demonstrated in

970
00:56:01.719 --> 00:56:05.039
a different way based off the time and the cultural norms.

971
00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:11.440
And so number one in this study, there's an intellectual

972
00:56:11.519 --> 00:56:13.079
and educational shift.

973
00:56:13.440 --> 00:56:14.519
Now we'll start right there.

974
00:56:15.199 --> 00:56:19.280
There's an there's an intellectual and educational shift.

975
00:56:19.800 --> 00:56:20.920
And here's what it happened.

976
00:56:21.199 --> 00:56:26.360
You should you know this, America was founded on biblical principles, right,

977
00:56:27.159 --> 00:56:28.280
and and some believe that.

978
00:56:28.199 --> 00:56:30.519
America was found as a Christian nation.

979
00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:34.679
I don't use that phrase because we were not a

980
00:56:34.800 --> 00:56:37.199
nation that was Christian so to speak.

981
00:56:37.480 --> 00:56:39.679
But we were founded on biblical principles.

982
00:56:39.679 --> 00:56:43.119
And if the founding fathers did not want to state church,

983
00:56:43.199 --> 00:56:45.159
is what that push What that statement was, they didn't

984
00:56:45.159 --> 00:56:47.639
want to state church, so they didn't want a Christian nation,

985
00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:52.079
but they they founded what we have tonight on biblical principles.

986
00:56:54.119 --> 00:56:57.280
Oh boy, so here we go. So so his hypothesis

987
00:56:57.400 --> 00:56:59.840
is things have changed in our education. Things have changed.

988
00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:01.920
We'll see what the change he's going to refer to.

989
00:57:02.280 --> 00:57:05.960
But he's making a dogmatic assertion that America was founded

990
00:57:06.119 --> 00:57:13.159
on biblical principles. All right, So again, if founded on

991
00:57:13.199 --> 00:57:16.800
biblical principles, look at the atrocities we were engaged in

992
00:57:16.840 --> 00:57:20.000
the cave. So but again that just means you can

993
00:57:20.039 --> 00:57:22.639
found something on a biblical principle and we will never

994
00:57:22.719 --> 00:57:24.920
live up to the biblical principle. Let's just always make

995
00:57:24.960 --> 00:57:28.760
that very clear. You can form a society on biblical

996
00:57:28.800 --> 00:57:32.280
principles and no one in society will live up to

997
00:57:32.360 --> 00:57:36.639
those principles because we cannot keep the law of God.

998
00:57:36.880 --> 00:57:39.280
We will always fall short. That we just have to

999
00:57:39.400 --> 00:57:42.440
establish that right out. And I'm not even talking about

1000
00:57:42.480 --> 00:57:45.480
the non Christians. I'm talking about the Christians. But the

1001
00:57:45.599 --> 00:57:49.360
question of whether America was founded on biblical principles is

1002
00:57:49.639 --> 00:57:55.480
complex and depends on how one defines biblical principles, right, okay,

1003
00:57:56.000 --> 00:57:58.679
and how one interprets the beliefs and actions of the

1004
00:57:58.719 --> 00:58:03.599
Founding fathers. All right, the Founding father's religious beliefs. Many

1005
00:58:03.639 --> 00:58:07.159
of the Founding Fathers identified as Christian, but their beliefs

1006
00:58:07.280 --> 00:58:13.079
varied wildly. Evangelical or Orthodox Christians. Patrick Henry Samuel Adams

1007
00:58:13.119 --> 00:58:17.000
believed in biblical authority, but you had deist Thomas Jefferson,

1008
00:58:17.320 --> 00:58:22.000
Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Paine rejected divine revelation and miracles but

1009
00:58:22.159 --> 00:58:26.320
saw God as a moral lawgiver. You had Unitarians, John Adams,

1010
00:58:26.480 --> 00:58:30.199
which rejected the Trinity but upheld moral teachings of Jesus.

1011
00:58:30.320 --> 00:58:34.599
So right there, which biblical principles? Those are three completely

1012
00:58:34.719 --> 00:58:38.360
radically different. Like if they reject the Trinity and if

1013
00:58:38.360 --> 00:58:42.760
they reject divine revelation, and then they're not even Christian,

1014
00:58:44.760 --> 00:58:47.360
their understanding of the Bible would not even be Christian.

1015
00:58:47.760 --> 00:58:52.719
So did they help found the biblical principles? Many Founders

1016
00:58:52.760 --> 00:58:56.599
referenced God, but they often did so in a general

1017
00:58:56.880 --> 00:59:02.800
or philosophical way, not a biblic way. Oh no, oh,

1018
00:59:02.840 --> 00:59:06.159
they mentioned God. Which God? If you reject the Trinity,

1019
00:59:06.199 --> 00:59:10.159
then that's not the same God as Okay, now, just

1020
00:59:11.039 --> 00:59:14.119
it just drives me crazy, all right. The Declaration, uh,

1021
00:59:14.239 --> 00:59:17.960
the Declaration of Independence refers to God in broad terms

1022
00:59:18.280 --> 00:59:23.159
laws of nature and of Nature's God deistic language, All

1023
00:59:23.199 --> 00:59:26.039
men are created equal, endowed by their creator with certain

1024
00:59:26.119 --> 00:59:30.880
unalienable rights, divine providence of guiding force. These references acknowledge

1025
00:59:30.920 --> 00:59:35.039
a high higher morality authority, a moral authority, but they

1026
00:59:35.039 --> 00:59:41.599
do not explicitly affirm biblical theology. I don't affirm necessarily sin, salvation, Jesus,

1027
00:59:42.559 --> 00:59:44.880
nothing like that. So they may have they may be

1028
00:59:45.199 --> 00:59:52.840
theistic foundation maybe a theistic foundation, biblical principles, that's that's another.

1029
00:59:52.960 --> 00:59:54.880
And just remember that whole thing that all men are

1030
00:59:54.880 --> 00:59:59.400
created equal, endowed by their creators, were certain unalienable rights. Well,

1031
00:59:59.599 --> 01:00:01.960
unless you happen to be of a different skin color,

1032
01:00:02.000 --> 01:00:04.280
and then we dehumanize you so that we can buy

1033
01:00:04.320 --> 01:00:10.599
and sell you like a piece of property, or unless

1034
01:00:10.599 --> 01:00:13.079
we accuse you of being a witch and we kill you, okay,

1035
01:00:13.119 --> 01:00:16.960
because you know, or if you don't adopt our certain

1036
01:00:17.000 --> 01:00:18.760
religious ploce, I mean, we can go to the things

1037
01:00:18.760 --> 01:00:21.880
that happen in America. Or if we decide that we

1038
01:00:21.920 --> 01:00:24.760
want your land because God has given us divine matter,

1039
01:00:25.400 --> 01:00:29.079
a divine destiny to have it, you know, manifest destiny,

1040
01:00:29.280 --> 01:00:32.880
and oh, so many things, so many things.

1041
01:00:32.800 --> 01:00:33.159
All right.

1042
01:00:34.519 --> 01:00:38.360
The US Constitution secular, biblical. The US Constitution does not

1043
01:00:38.480 --> 01:00:42.559
mention God, Jesus, or the Bible article some of the

1044
01:00:42.639 --> 01:00:45.119
articles here. No religious tests shall ever be required for

1045
01:00:45.119 --> 01:00:49.599
public office. The First Amendment establishes religious freedom. Congress shall

1046
01:00:49.599 --> 01:00:53.519
make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting

1047
01:00:53.519 --> 01:00:58.320
the free exercise thereof the Constitution deliberately avoids establishing a

1048
01:00:58.400 --> 01:01:08.280
theocracy or biblical rule promoting religious pluralism instead. All right,

1049
01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:14.599
so we have again was it founded on biblical principles? Again,

1050
01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:19.000
while America was not explicitly founded as a Christian nation,

1051
01:01:19.079 --> 01:01:23.119
Biblical principles did influence aspects of its laws and moral framework.

1052
01:01:23.519 --> 01:01:27.400
Many laws reflect biblical morality prohibitions on murder and theft.

1053
01:01:27.760 --> 01:01:31.519
But again, okay, maybe they took it from it. But

1054
01:01:31.599 --> 01:01:36.679
were there any prohibitions against murder and theft before the Bible?

1055
01:01:37.480 --> 01:01:43.960
As are prohibitions against these things and other religions. I mean.

1056
01:01:44.480 --> 01:01:46.679
But at the same time, you could say, well, maybe

1057
01:01:46.719 --> 01:01:49.639
they were influenced by the Bible. That's okay. So I

1058
01:01:49.679 --> 01:01:53.559
guess if any culture has a law against murder or theft,

1059
01:01:53.679 --> 01:01:55.960
then that's a biblical principle. I guess you could make it.

1060
01:01:56.079 --> 01:02:00.400
See how that you can play a little game that way.

1061
01:02:01.639 --> 01:02:04.880
Human dignity and rights, the idea of equality before God

1062
01:02:04.960 --> 01:02:09.280
echoes genusis made in God's image. Okay, you may be

1063
01:02:09.280 --> 01:02:11.920
able to make an argument there. But again, did we

1064
01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:15.440
live up to that principle? No, we did not. Limited

1065
01:02:15.440 --> 01:02:19.960
government some see Romans thirteen. Government is God's servant for

1066
01:02:20.199 --> 01:02:24.159
justice as a foundation for civil authority. However, many Biblical

1067
01:02:24.239 --> 01:02:28.920
laws Sabbath laws, dietary laws, Old Testament theocracy was not incorporated.

1068
01:02:29.199 --> 01:02:33.320
The early US government tolerated slavery, which contradicts Biblical teachings

1069
01:02:33.320 --> 01:02:37.519
on justice and human dignity. Right, if we go to

1070
01:02:37.599 --> 01:02:41.159
some specific things, well, I could go on here, so

1071
01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:44.920
we can definitely say America is not a theocracy. The

1072
01:02:45.039 --> 01:02:47.920
US was not established as a Christian state, nor is

1073
01:02:47.920 --> 01:02:51.719
it governed by Biblical law. Biblical morality shaped some cultural

1074
01:02:51.719 --> 01:02:56.639
and ethical ideals, but was not legally codified as the foundation,

1075
01:02:57.400 --> 01:03:00.719
and the founders prioritized freedom of relige and rather than

1076
01:03:00.800 --> 01:03:07.199
enforcing Biblical Christianity. So see, I know Christians love to

1077
01:03:07.239 --> 01:03:10.679
say it, we an't were found on biblical principles, but

1078
01:03:11.599 --> 01:03:14.719
it's not. Again, it's a little nuanced there. Let's see,

1079
01:03:15.039 --> 01:03:16.480
we'll go just a little bit further here.

1080
01:03:18.400 --> 01:03:20.760
It is absolutely evident. You can cross reference that with

1081
01:03:20.840 --> 01:03:24.079
every quote. Most of most of these Founding fathers, some

1082
01:03:24.159 --> 01:03:28.079
were not safe, but most of them feared God. You'll

1083
01:03:28.079 --> 01:03:31.519
find it all over the Founding documents, all over their quotes,

1084
01:03:31.599 --> 01:03:34.760
everything that they wrote, they had references to God. They

1085
01:03:34.760 --> 01:03:37.840
had references to what they called the Supreme Being or

1086
01:03:37.880 --> 01:03:40.199
our benevolent friend, George Washington.

1087
01:03:40.239 --> 01:03:42.239
It is a inaugural address.

1088
01:03:42.280 --> 01:03:46.480
He mentioned many times God and so, but there's overwhelming

1089
01:03:46.519 --> 01:03:48.760
evidence that our founding fathers were God fearing men. You

1090
01:03:48.800 --> 01:03:52.280
cannot go too far in our in our church, in

1091
01:03:52.320 --> 01:03:53.400
our in our constitution.

1092
01:03:53.519 --> 01:03:56.719
And wait, so there.

1093
01:03:56.840 --> 01:04:04.079
Again, which God ideas you had Unitarians, That doesn't make

1094
01:04:04.079 --> 01:04:07.880
it biblical, that makes it theistic. If you want to

1095
01:04:07.920 --> 01:04:13.039
say the theism was a the dominant philosophy of the time,

1096
01:04:13.320 --> 01:04:18.360
I gota no problem acknowledging that obviously theism was. Okay,

1097
01:04:18.599 --> 01:04:20.920
so what do you what are you saying? Are you

1098
01:04:21.079 --> 01:04:25.039
are you calling for us to return to some theocratic idea? Well,

1099
01:04:25.079 --> 01:04:28.000
then if you go to a freeocretic idea, which theism,

1100
01:04:28.159 --> 01:04:32.159
which God is going to then be the one that

1101
01:04:32.480 --> 01:04:34.800
are just going to be general. I don't know, all right,

1102
01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:38.480
and he's he's making all these dogmatic assertions that we

1103
01:04:38.679 --> 01:04:43.519
but all right, you see, okay. John Adams at the

1104
01:04:43.880 --> 01:04:48.199
tri the treaty Treaty of Tripoli, I think is what

1105
01:04:48.239 --> 01:04:50.719
it is. John Adams, seventeen ninety seven. The government of

1106
01:04:50.719 --> 01:04:52.840
the United States is not in any sense founded on

1107
01:04:52.880 --> 01:04:55.599
the Christian religion. Now I have to verify that quote

1108
01:04:55.679 --> 01:04:58.400
but I think there's a there's some that would possibly

1109
01:04:58.440 --> 01:05:01.960
then challenge what is being stated here. Right, I think

1110
01:05:02.000 --> 01:05:07.079
Thomas Jefferson I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of

1111
01:05:07.119 --> 01:05:10.320
the whole American people, which declared that their legislator should

1112
01:05:10.400 --> 01:05:14.000
make no law respecting an establishment of religion, are prohibiting

1113
01:05:14.039 --> 01:05:17.000
the free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of separation

1114
01:05:17.119 --> 01:05:21.280
between church and state. All right, George Washington warned against

1115
01:05:21.280 --> 01:05:28.519
religious secrets and government, but emphasize moral virtue sectarianism. Okay,

1116
01:05:28.519 --> 01:05:30.679
if I can read the word right, George Washington warned

1117
01:05:30.719 --> 01:05:36.280
against religious sectarianism and government, but emphasized moral virtue. So

1118
01:05:36.400 --> 01:05:39.280
for every quote you can say, there's probably another quote.

1119
01:05:39.320 --> 01:05:41.519
People love to go take these quotes and we again,

1120
01:05:41.559 --> 01:05:44.199
we have to verify every single quote. We got to

1121
01:05:44.239 --> 01:05:47.800
go find context. But everybody wants to make this argument.

1122
01:05:47.880 --> 01:05:49.679
And I don't really know what's the end game of

1123
01:05:49.719 --> 01:05:56.199
your argument. What's the end game that the government needs

1124
01:05:56.199 --> 01:05:59.920
to promote biblical principles that the state needs to here's

1125
01:06:00.159 --> 01:06:03.280
novel idea. Why not the church that does that, and

1126
01:06:03.320 --> 01:06:06.000
not worry what what the government does, Because we are

1127
01:06:06.039 --> 01:06:11.440
to operate separate from distinct from and it's our job

1128
01:06:11.599 --> 01:06:15.840
to preach biblical morality, call preach about sin and salvation.

1129
01:06:16.320 --> 01:06:20.559
And Christianity is not a moralistic system. It's a system

1130
01:06:20.599 --> 01:06:23.880
that says the morality which God demands is the morality

1131
01:06:23.880 --> 01:06:27.000
which we cannot achieve. So Christ died for us, so

1132
01:06:27.159 --> 01:06:30.159
his morality can be imputed to us. That's a completely

1133
01:06:30.199 --> 01:06:33.360
different Christianity than probably the Christianity that is promoted by

1134
01:06:33.400 --> 01:06:37.159
many Christians not find.

1135
01:06:36.920 --> 01:06:40.360
References to God. I have a book in my office

1136
01:06:40.480 --> 01:06:41.719
and it's.

1137
01:06:41.199 --> 01:06:46.480
A good book on basically a summary of Thomas Paine's

1138
01:06:46.480 --> 01:06:48.480
work that he had put together.

1139
01:06:48.519 --> 01:06:49.280
And I agree with.

1140
01:06:49.239 --> 01:06:52.039
Thomas pain on some of the things that he referenced

1141
01:06:52.159 --> 01:06:58.360
against Great Britain. He wrote a three part series a

1142
01:06:58.440 --> 01:07:02.199
book that started in seventeen ninety four, seventeen ninety five

1143
01:07:02.239 --> 01:07:04.320
and eighteen oh seven. It was three parts to this

1144
01:07:05.119 --> 01:07:08.480
Age of Reason, and again I had I have not

1145
01:07:08.559 --> 01:07:09.239
read all of it.

1146
01:07:09.280 --> 01:07:13.519
I'm not going to do that, but what I.

1147
01:07:13.440 --> 01:07:16.119
Have read, there's some parts of it that I said.

1148
01:07:16.599 --> 01:07:20.519
Thomas Paine was able to observe some things that were true,

1149
01:07:21.400 --> 01:07:24.719
and he saw religious apostasy. He saw what could happen

1150
01:07:24.840 --> 01:07:28.760
with with religious leaders and with a could doude in manipulation,

1151
01:07:29.760 --> 01:07:34.480
and he called Christians tonight us Christian mythology, and we're

1152
01:07:34.519 --> 01:07:37.320
no different than than any other Eastern religion because in

1153
01:07:37.320 --> 01:07:39.800
those days, after all, there was a lot of sun

1154
01:07:39.880 --> 01:07:44.039
gods or children gods from mother gods. And he said,

1155
01:07:44.079 --> 01:07:47.320
this is nothing different than anything that was already existing.

1156
01:07:47.800 --> 01:07:50.159
And you can convince nine people.

1157
01:07:49.920 --> 01:07:56.360
To write about this, this so called virgin born Savior,

1158
01:07:57.440 --> 01:08:00.440
and then that he resurrected. And so when you read

1159
01:08:00.440 --> 01:08:02.679
his writings, I could see why he would come to

1160
01:08:02.719 --> 01:08:03.280
the conclusion.

1161
01:08:03.320 --> 01:08:06.440
One thing that Thomas Pain left out.

1162
01:08:06.280 --> 01:08:12.559
Is that Bible prophecy was overwhelmingly given evidence as to

1163
01:08:12.639 --> 01:08:13.480
who Christ was.

1164
01:08:15.440 --> 01:08:18.279
Okay, I'm confused in what he's doing here, trying going

1165
01:08:18.319 --> 01:08:23.239
back to the early founding fathers, and he was at

1166
01:08:23.319 --> 01:08:26.159
least acknowledging Thomas Pain. Just to make sure you understand,

1167
01:08:26.199 --> 01:08:30.119
Thomas Pain was a deist. He believed in a some

1168
01:08:30.239 --> 01:08:33.079
type of a creator God, but he rejected organized religion,

1169
01:08:33.279 --> 01:08:37.720
rejected the divine revelation, and he completely rejected the authority

1170
01:08:37.720 --> 01:08:41.159
of the Bible. He rejected the divinity of Jesus Christ.

1171
01:08:41.319 --> 01:08:43.399
He viewed the Bible as a man made and full

1172
01:08:43.439 --> 01:08:46.279
of contradictions. He believed in God as a rational designer,

1173
01:08:46.439 --> 01:08:51.800
but thought religion was corrupt and oppressive. He criticized his Bible,

1174
01:08:51.840 --> 01:08:55.720
calling it a collection of myths and fabrications. He rejected miracles,

1175
01:08:55.720 --> 01:09:00.159
He denied the Trinity. He completely opposed institutional religion and

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arguing it manipulates people for power. So so I do.

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And now he's gonna say, well, Thomas, he's gonna then

1178
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provide an apologetic to Thomas Pain. Your whole point was

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that the early people that I don't know where you're

1180
01:09:16.600 --> 01:09:18.680
going with this. We need to wrap this up here quickly. Well,

1181
01:09:18.720 --> 01:09:20.119
I'm going to learn him at least try to finish

1182
01:09:20.119 --> 01:09:21.880
this point, because I don't know exactly where he's trying

1183
01:09:21.960 --> 01:09:22.479
to go with this.

1184
01:09:24.039 --> 01:09:26.680
He was not just a man that performed some great

1185
01:09:26.720 --> 01:09:30.159
miracles and was supposedly born of a vergent though he was,

1186
01:09:30.640 --> 01:09:34.439
he fulfilled biblical prophecies. And so Thomas Pain, even though

1187
01:09:34.439 --> 01:09:37.840
I think he knew some of the scriptures, did not

1188
01:09:37.920 --> 01:09:41.199
study enough. And unfortunately on his deathbed he couldn't die

1189
01:09:41.239 --> 01:09:46.279
with what he wrote his last words, He's to stay

1190
01:09:46.319 --> 01:09:49.079
with me God, I cannot bear to be left alone.

1191
01:09:49.479 --> 01:09:51.640
Oh Lord, help me. Oh God, what have I done

1192
01:09:51.880 --> 01:09:55.760
to suffer so much? What have I become? What will

1193
01:09:55.800 --> 01:09:59.479
I become? Hereafter? Here's what he said, quote I would

1194
01:09:59.520 --> 01:10:02.680
give worlds if I had them that the Age of

1195
01:10:02.800 --> 01:10:04.479
Reason had never been published.

1196
01:10:05.159 --> 01:10:06.960
So he could not die with what he wrote and

1197
01:10:07.000 --> 01:10:08.840
what he lived with. Is that making sense to you?

1198
01:10:09.479 --> 01:10:11.840
And so when I saw that, that sort of started

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the think cultural shift seventeen ninety four, eighteen o seven,

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01:10:18.439 --> 01:10:22.319
that era started shifting, at least in the academia world,

1201
01:10:22.840 --> 01:10:25.600
the thinking religious thinking of that time.

1202
01:10:27.399 --> 01:10:29.279
Okay, we got to go to some of this because

1203
01:10:29.279 --> 01:10:34.600
there's a lot here. Okay, there's a lot here. There's

1204
01:10:34.720 --> 01:10:37.119
no First of all, there is no credible evidence to

1205
01:10:37.159 --> 01:10:40.319
suggest Pain ever renounced his Deism or became a Christian

1206
01:10:40.359 --> 01:10:43.439
before his death in eighteen oh nine. Some later Christian

1207
01:10:43.439 --> 01:10:46.079
accounts claim he had a deathbed conversion, but these are

1208
01:10:46.119 --> 01:10:49.840
widely disputed. All Right, The claim that Thomas Pain had

1209
01:10:49.840 --> 01:10:52.800
a deathbed conversion to Christianity is highly disputed and lacks

1210
01:10:52.920 --> 01:10:56.760
credible historical evidence. Many Christian sources have suggested that Pain

1211
01:10:56.880 --> 01:11:00.800
recanted his Deist beliefs and express recount before dying, but

1212
01:11:00.920 --> 01:11:06.279
eyewitnesses eyewitness accounts contradict the claim. Some Christian sources from

1213
01:11:06.279 --> 01:11:09.119
the nineteenth century claim that Pain on his deathbed cried

1214
01:11:09.159 --> 01:11:12.119
out for God's mercy or expressed regret for the Age

1215
01:11:12.119 --> 01:11:15.439
of Reason, supposedly saying, Oh Lord help me, I would

1216
01:11:15.479 --> 01:11:18.560
give worlds if I had them, that the Age of

1217
01:11:18.640 --> 01:11:21.640
Reason had never been published. If ever, the devil had

1218
01:11:21.680 --> 01:11:24.760
an agent, I have been that one. However, these quotes

1219
01:11:24.800 --> 01:11:34.279
are unverified and likely fabricated. Man alive, but hey, hey,

1220
01:11:35.880 --> 01:11:38.279
the word of God will keep us away from stupidity.

1221
01:11:38.640 --> 01:11:40.800
The word of God. But I'm gonna then teach and

1222
01:11:40.880 --> 01:11:45.960
say things that may not even be accurate. Oh cry

1223
01:11:46.039 --> 01:11:48.319
out loud, I'm knocking everything off my desk. Okay, so

1224
01:11:48.399 --> 01:11:51.239
let me go through this again. These are unverified, likely

1225
01:11:51.279 --> 01:11:55.560
fabricated by religious opponents who wanted to discredit his influence.

1226
01:11:55.720 --> 01:11:58.640
Wait are you gonna tell me? Religious opponents possibly made

1227
01:11:58.680 --> 01:12:02.119
up a story poor false witness and lied. No, tell

1228
01:12:02.159 --> 01:12:04.840
me it's not true, because we are Christians and we

1229
01:12:04.960 --> 01:12:10.079
do everything perfect in our country was found on biblical principles.

1230
01:12:11.560 --> 01:12:14.640
The most reliable sources, including people who were with Pain

1231
01:12:15.000 --> 01:12:18.119
in his final days, confirmed that he remained a deist

1232
01:12:18.319 --> 01:12:22.000
until his death doctor Manley, his physician, reported that Pain

1233
01:12:22.079 --> 01:12:27.119
died without any confession or Christian conversion. William Cobert Kobot,

1234
01:12:27.479 --> 01:12:31.399
a contemporary journalist, investigated the claims of Pain's con conversion

1235
01:12:31.640 --> 01:12:36.239
and found no reliable evidence. A close friend who cared

1236
01:12:36.239 --> 01:12:38.079
for him in his last days wrote that he did

1237
01:12:38.159 --> 01:12:42.800
for he died firm in his deism. A key quote

1238
01:12:42.800 --> 01:12:45.920
from Pain's last moments when a clergyman came to visit him,

1239
01:12:45.920 --> 01:12:50.520
Pain reportedly said, let me have none of your popeish stuff,

1240
01:12:50.880 --> 01:12:54.479
get away with you, good morning. This indicates that he

1241
01:12:54.600 --> 01:13:00.960
rejected religious intervention even at the end. So the people

1242
01:13:01.159 --> 01:13:03.680
there say, no, there's no truth in this. But Christians

1243
01:13:03.720 --> 01:13:07.800
come along and we rewrite the story. Oh he was

1244
01:13:07.960 --> 01:13:11.960
so convinced, and then all of it. Oh my goodness,

1245
01:13:12.039 --> 01:13:17.479
gracious man. Okay, So why did the conversion story spread? Well,

1246
01:13:17.840 --> 01:13:20.920
Pains the Age of Reason was a major threat to Christianity,

1247
01:13:21.119 --> 01:13:26.359
so some Christian writers likely fabricated the conversion story to

1248
01:13:26.520 --> 01:13:30.920
discredit him. Ooh, what a Christian thing to do. Deathbed

1249
01:13:30.920 --> 01:13:33.880
conversions were often used as propaganda tools in the eighteenth

1250
01:13:33.880 --> 01:13:37.680
and nineteenth century. Oh are you telling me? Christianity uses propaganda?

1251
01:13:38.119 --> 01:13:42.880
Never we never used propaganda. Many similar false stories were

1252
01:13:42.920 --> 01:13:49.840
spread about other skeptics, Votaire and David Hume. A final verdict,

1253
01:13:50.720 --> 01:13:54.079
there is no reliable evidence that Thomas Paine recanted his

1254
01:13:54.239 --> 01:13:57.960
Deist views or converted to Christianity before his death. Every

1255
01:13:58.039 --> 01:14:04.720
credible eyewitness account suggests died a firm Deist, rejecting Christianity, Christianity,

1256
01:14:05.000 --> 01:14:10.600
Christian doctrine to the there re end. So how in

1257
01:14:10.640 --> 01:14:15.479
the world are we going to diagnose cultural revolution when

1258
01:14:15.520 --> 01:14:20.439
we can't get historical facts accurately and don't tell me

1259
01:14:20.680 --> 01:14:24.279
the Word of God fixes our stupidity, because when we

1260
01:14:24.319 --> 01:14:27.000
are preaching the Word of God and a sermon, we

1261
01:14:27.119 --> 01:14:37.279
then share fraudulent information. Second part of it, man live,

1262
01:14:38.520 --> 01:14:42.479
go to church to hear lies. That's what Christianity is.

1263
01:14:47.119 --> 01:14:49.640
I've heard that story so many times. I've heard that

1264
01:14:49.680 --> 01:14:54.640
preach fifty thousand times in my life. Thomas Paying, Thomas Pain,

1265
01:14:54.800 --> 01:14:56.960
who was this big skeptic. I don't even know what

1266
01:14:56.960 --> 01:14:59.439
that has to do with anything, because supposedly the point

1267
01:14:59.560 --> 01:15:03.520
was everything early on was Christian Christian. Well, you had

1268
01:15:03.520 --> 01:15:06.079
Thomas Pain, who was a deist, you had others that

1269
01:15:06.159 --> 01:15:10.359
were Unitarians. I don't even know how that doesn't even

1270
01:15:10.399 --> 01:15:12.680
seem to I guess the point was, well, he he

1271
01:15:12.760 --> 01:15:15.640
converted at the end, so then all of his deism

1272
01:15:15.680 --> 01:15:19.079
and all of his other stuff doesn't count. I don't

1273
01:15:19.079 --> 01:15:20.560
even know what that I don't even know how it

1274
01:15:20.600 --> 01:15:24.960
fits into the overall message at this point, but it

1275
01:15:25.199 --> 01:15:33.640
just makes me angry. Can you imagine someone making up

1276
01:15:33.760 --> 01:15:37.680
stories about your last moments as you lay down? Thomas

1277
01:15:37.720 --> 01:15:42.720
Paine was a human being. You don't go tell lies

1278
01:15:43.079 --> 01:15:48.079
about people's final moments when they're dying. That is disgusting,

1279
01:15:48.359 --> 01:15:57.039
That is dehumanizing. It is vile. That's why when I

1280
01:15:57.039 --> 01:15:59.479
get ready to die, I'm gonna make sure no Christians

1281
01:15:59.520 --> 01:16:08.920
are present. Can't stand when that stuff happens. Let people

1282
01:16:09.000 --> 01:16:11.960
die in peace for crying out loud. Don't use them

1283
01:16:11.960 --> 01:16:15.960
to propagandaize and try to make some point the person died.

1284
01:16:16.079 --> 01:16:22.279
Leave them alone. Now, if they want to write something

1285
01:16:22.439 --> 01:16:24.439
and then they hand it to you and say please

1286
01:16:25.079 --> 01:16:27.960
spread this far and wide, then okay. But if they're

1287
01:16:28.000 --> 01:16:31.439
just saying something and maybe in confidence around a few people,

1288
01:16:31.640 --> 01:16:39.119
I don't know, maybe we leave it alone. All right.

1289
01:16:39.159 --> 01:16:42.520
So that went well. We never got to the cultural revolution.

1290
01:16:43.279 --> 01:16:46.439
We never got to the cultural revolution because we had

1291
01:16:46.720 --> 01:16:51.760
we had to stop and do this detour. Now someone's

1292
01:16:51.800 --> 01:16:54.199
gonna come and argue, but I've got this book, and

1293
01:16:54.239 --> 01:16:57.119
this book says that it's it's true. Well the point is,

1294
01:16:57.159 --> 01:16:59.479
if you've got evidence saying it's not true and evidence

1295
01:16:59.479 --> 01:17:01.359
saying it's true, then can we at least let the

1296
01:17:01.439 --> 01:17:04.119
very minimum go. Maybe we shouldn't repeat it since there's

1297
01:17:04.199 --> 01:17:07.680
conflicting information and guess what, you weren't there. I weren't there,

1298
01:17:07.760 --> 01:17:10.520
So we can't then say he said something when there's

1299
01:17:10.520 --> 01:17:13.079
conflicting evidence that he didn't say it. So how about

1300
01:17:13.119 --> 01:17:15.560
we just don't say it? Because I thought as Christians

1301
01:17:15.560 --> 01:17:18.199
were supposed to put away lying, speak the truth and

1302
01:17:18.279 --> 01:17:20.960
not pair of false wetness. But I guess that no

1303
01:17:21.079 --> 01:17:30.079
longer matters anymore. Man, Oh drives me crazy. All right, Well,

1304
01:17:30.119 --> 01:17:33.359
I'm losing my ever living mind. So I'm going to

1305
01:17:33.439 --> 01:17:36.640
go to the liquor store because I probably it'll be

1306
01:17:36.640 --> 01:17:38.560
better off than listening to a sermon.

1307
01:17:39.239 --> 01:17:40.039
Man, And I.

1308
01:17:40.479 --> 01:17:44.199
Have look, I've sat through these little Christian conferences on

1309
01:17:44.600 --> 01:17:47.760
America and this happened, and this happened, and this happened,

1310
01:17:47.800 --> 01:17:50.960
and so we're going to prove that it's Christian. And

1311
01:17:50.960 --> 01:17:52.800
then you start and he started doing a little digging

1312
01:17:52.840 --> 01:17:54.960
out a well, this is not necessarily accurate, and this

1313
01:17:55.039 --> 01:17:58.039
is not necessarily accurate, and this is not necessarily true.

1314
01:17:58.119 --> 01:18:00.520
And that quote's a little taken out of context. This

1315
01:18:00.640 --> 01:18:03.000
is not really accurate, and you're kind of misunderstood this.

1316
01:18:03.119 --> 01:18:06.239
And then it's like, oh, man, go to church to

1317
01:18:06.279 --> 01:18:09.279
be lied to. And look, it's one thing to say

1318
01:18:09.319 --> 01:18:13.399
something about a concept, but when you're speaking about human

1319
01:18:13.640 --> 01:18:18.640
beings and you're doing something for propaganda purposes where you

1320
01:18:18.880 --> 01:18:24.079
misrepresent their final words, that is the epitome of bearing

1321
01:18:24.119 --> 01:18:33.640
false witness. And even if you prove that he said it,

1322
01:18:33.680 --> 01:18:42.039
what does that prove? I don't know. All right, we

1323
01:18:42.079 --> 01:18:44.039
didn't get to the cultural revolution you want? You do

1324
01:18:44.119 --> 01:18:46.239
want to know the cultural revolution that I have witnessed

1325
01:18:46.279 --> 01:18:49.000
in my Christian life is there. He's the epitome of

1326
01:18:49.039 --> 01:18:52.720
the cultural revolution. We're over and over and this goes

1327
01:18:52.800 --> 01:18:54.920
all the way back. Though this is not I shouldn't

1328
01:18:54.920 --> 01:18:56.920
even say it's a cultural revolution. You know what, this

1329
01:18:57.039 --> 01:18:59.760
proves that, whether we are Christians or whether we're not,

1330
01:19:00.520 --> 01:19:02.680
you know what we have the tendency to do is

1331
01:19:02.720 --> 01:19:07.880
we misrepresent, We lie we deceive, we use propaganda, we

1332
01:19:07.920 --> 01:19:11.520
share false information, we bear false witness. I do it,

1333
01:19:11.760 --> 01:19:14.840
you do it. We all do it because we're all sinners.

1334
01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:20.319
The cultural revolution is just the different shapes that our

1335
01:19:20.439 --> 01:19:25.359
sin typically takes us, either whether it takes a religious

1336
01:19:25.359 --> 01:19:28.520
covering or we strip away the religious covering. But whether

1337
01:19:28.560 --> 01:19:31.960
it's religious or not religious, whether it's Christian or whether

1338
01:19:31.960 --> 01:19:35.800
it's humanistic, it's all going to be once again demonstration

1339
01:19:36.039 --> 01:19:39.119
of our own frailty and our own depravity, because we

1340
01:19:39.159 --> 01:19:42.039
are all depraved, and we're all liars. We come forth

1341
01:19:42.079 --> 01:19:45.840
from the womb speaking lies. I give false information, You

1342
01:19:45.960 --> 01:19:49.439
give false information. You get things wrong. I get things wrong.

1343
01:19:49.640 --> 01:19:52.560
We all do so, so I'm not gonna even worry

1344
01:19:52.560 --> 01:19:55.640
about what they got wrong. God, forgive all of us

1345
01:19:55.680 --> 01:19:59.520
for lying. Forgive us all for misinformation, Forgive us all

1346
01:19:59.560 --> 01:20:02.359
for bearing false witness, because we are all guilty of

1347
01:20:02.399 --> 01:20:06.159
it to some level. May God have mercy on us.

1348
01:20:06.680 --> 01:20:07.560
Thank you for listening,